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Jun 23 08:30:50 <nauj27> good morning
Jun 23 09:17:16 <hagisbasheruk> any developers awake ?
Jun 23 09:20:09 <hagisbasheruk> awe well i guess not
Jun 23 09:21:03 <hagisbasheruk> i can't believe there is no port for Jornada 720 yet
Jun 23 09:22:14 <hagisbasheruk> especially since Jlime linux uses OE for there distro :/
Jun 23 10:09:40 <NAbyss> hagisbasheruk: You're quite welcome to start the porting effort :)
Jun 23 10:10:51 <hagisbasheruk> mmm..... maybe 
Jun 23 10:12:04 <NAbyss> IIRC, the core devs only have a handful of machines, so there's not much possibility of porting to machines they don't have
Jun 23 10:14:39 <hagisbasheruk> okay lets do it but i guess i'll have to read up on some stuff as i just found out about Ångström 10 mins before i posted
Jun 23 10:16:03 <hagisbasheruk> brb need coffee
Jun 23 10:20:06 <hagisbasheruk> okay ,back
Jun 23 10:20:50 <hagisbasheruk> well i guess i could steal loads of bb files from my friends on 
Jun 23 10:20:59 <hagisbasheruk> #jlime :)
Jun 23 10:21:30 <hagisbasheruk> Do you guys use standard OE ?
Jun 23 10:24:12 <NAbyss> Yep, just org.openembedded.dev branch
Jun 23 10:25:22 <hagisbasheruk> ahh cool ,we should have something soon then :)
Jun 23 10:26:24 <hagisbasheruk> I just need to build a few apps needed for OE as i am using a new OS (ArchLinux) and have not setup OE again yet
Jun 23 10:28:51 <hagisbasheruk> Have you seen that new 7" notebook Asus are bringing out in at the end of August ( Eee PC ) 
Jun 23 10:29:33 <hagisbasheruk> so what systems do you develope for NAbyss ?
Jun 23 10:39:31 <hagisbasheruk> here we go again :) http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/RequiredSoftware lets see what i have still got to build shall we :/
Jun 23 14:18:25 <mimecar> hi
Jun 23 14:19:55 <mimecar> is there an ebook reader on angstrom (i have tested gpe-plucker ?
Jun 23 14:24:01 <hagisbasheruk> mimecar, did you check http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/ ?
Jun 23 14:24:10 <mimecar> yes
Jun 23 14:24:11 <hagisbasheruk> what cpu you got ?
Jun 23 14:24:21 <mimecar> there's fbreader
Jun 23 14:24:30 <mimecar> but toolbar icons are small
Jun 23 14:25:03 <hagisbasheruk> more room for small screens
Jun 23 14:25:31 <mimecar> yes, on small screens look perfect
Jun 23 14:25:39 <hagisbasheruk> what cpu you got ?
Jun 23 14:25:43 <mimecar> but on akita (640x480 screen) is small
Jun 23 14:26:51 <hagisbasheruk> gpdf ?
Jun 23 14:27:26 <mimecar> can run it on GPE ?
Jun 23 14:27:43 <mimecar> I think qpdf is a QT app
Jun 23 14:28:15 <hagisbasheruk> GPDF
Jun 23 14:28:29 <mimecar> is a port ?
Jun 23 14:29:03 <hagisbasheruk> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/?action=details&pnm=gpdf
Jun 23 14:29:13 <mimecar> I'm searching
Jun 23 14:29:31 <hagisbasheruk> for running in X
Jun 23 14:29:42 <mimecar> can I , with gpdf, see only the text of a pdf ?
Jun 23 14:30:49 <hagisbasheruk> has libpng so not only text but pics also
Jun 23 14:31:46 <hagisbasheruk> what CPU does your akita have ?
Jun 23 14:31:53 <mimecar> 416 MHz
Jun 23 14:33:01 <hagisbasheruk> No what architecture ?
Jun 23 14:33:08 <mimecar> ARM
Jun 23 14:33:16 <hagisbasheruk> v5 ?
Jun 23 14:33:26 <mimecar> yes
Jun 23 14:33:27 <dcordes> yes
Jun 23 14:33:51 <hagisbasheruk> well ipkg install gpdf :)
Jun 23 14:34:04 <mimecar> 1.3 MB of free space :P
Jun 23 14:34:58 <hagisbasheruk> get rid of crap then ;)
Jun 23 14:35:24 <mimecar> I've installed abiword, 12 MB less
Jun 23 14:35:26 <hagisbasheruk> or get bigger CF/SD or whatever your device uses
Jun 23 14:36:28 <hagisbasheruk> get leafpad instead of abiword for now then :)
Jun 23 14:37:03 <dcordes> mimecar, akita with the system installed to the internal flash is a pain
Jun 23 14:37:25 <mimecar> I know, I 've reflashed some time
Jun 23 14:37:43 <mimecar> somebody should thell ipkg he will lost all the space before installing software
Jun 23 14:37:55 * hagisbasheruk goes to see what that device is on google brb
Jun 23 14:39:26 <hagisbasheruk> akita is dog LOL
Jun 23 14:40:48 <dcordes> of course
Jun 23 14:41:11 <dcordes> it even barks sometimes
Jun 23 14:41:19 <hagisbasheruk> what type of device is akita ,apart from a dog :)
Jun 23 14:41:33 <mimecar> a clamshell device with a beatiful keyboard
Jun 23 14:41:34 <dcordes> it is a Sharp Zaurus sl-C100
Jun 23 14:41:47 <dcordes> that's a nice description
Jun 23 14:42:41 <hagisbasheruk> ahh :)
Jun 23 14:43:18 <CoreDump|afk> ~akita
Jun 23 14:43:27 <dcordes> hi CoreDump|afk 
Jun 23 14:43:32 <CoreDump|afk> hey
Jun 23 14:43:38 <mimecar> ibot is dead
Jun 23 14:43:41 <dcordes> :(
Jun 23 14:44:58 <mimecar> I got spanish working on C1000
Jun 23 14:45:09 <dcordes> How did you install that?
Jun 23 14:45:34 <mimecar> first, adding locale feed
Jun 23 14:45:38 <hagisbasheruk> Nice for Spanish ppl :P
Jun 23 14:45:56 <mimecar> and installing locale version of programas (and some try and flash the zaurus)
Jun 23 14:46:45 <dcordes> mimecar, como installas los local feeds?
Jun 23 14:47:16 <mimecar> first you add this feed http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/feed/armv5te/locales/
Jun 23 14:47:28 <mimecar> of course you need add your language 
Jun 23 14:47:50 <hagisbasheruk> who maintains the arm4 feed ? mabey he would like this http://mongo.jjime.com/feed
Jun 23 14:48:37 <hagisbasheruk> http://mongo.jlime.com/feed/ even 
Jun 23 14:49:04 <mimecar> dcordes: where are you from (I think you said me, but my memmory is low)
Jun 23 14:49:18 <dcordes> mimecar, germany
Jun 23 14:49:24 <mimecar> ok
Jun 23 14:49:50 <mimecar> you add the locale feed, I installed all the programs on that folder
Jun 23 14:50:07 <mimecar> then, I 've my language on login screen and other apps
Jun 23 14:50:21 <mimecar> not all the text are translated, on that case you'll see the english label
Jun 23 14:51:25 <mimecar> on akita there's a bug with feeds, what's the link to bugtracker ?
Jun 23 14:54:29 <hagisbasheruk> back later
Jun 23 14:55:31 <dcordes> mimecar, bugs.openembedded.org
Jun 23 14:55:51 <mimecar> thanks
Jun 23 14:56:13 <dcordes> mimecar, it is all on openembedded.org
Jun 23 15:01:01 <dcordes> i'm off. later
Jun 23 15:01:13 <mimecar> dcordes: you can use this page as template to germany => http://www.innerzaurus.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=290#290
Jun 23 15:01:26 <mimecar> change "es" for "de" and it should work
Jun 23 15:02:05 <dcordes> alright thanks mate
Jun 23 15:02:31 <mimecar> it woks on akita, you will need an extra package is not on the list
Jun 23 15:02:50 <mimecar> but it works if i install abiword (package is one of the dependences)
Jun 23 15:03:08 <hagisbasheruk> back again
Jun 23 15:03:14 <mimecar> :)
Jun 23 15:03:27 <mimecar> hagisbasheruk: return's ;)
Jun 23 15:07:16 <dcordes> mimecar, you should add Ångström to your website's Software para Zaurus section ;)
Jun 23 15:07:18 <hagisbasheruk> damn monotone dont like boost 1.34.02  mtn --db=/stuff/OE.mtn pull monotone.openembedded.org org.openembedded.dev throws up errors looking for libboost_regex.so.1.33.1 
Jun 23 15:07:42 <mimecar> there's a angstrom section
Jun 23 15:07:53 <mimecar> on documentation, can you tell me the link you're talking about ?
Jun 23 15:08:10 <dcordes> mimecar, http://www.innerzaurus.com/CMS/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=153&Itemid=149
Jun 23 15:08:22 <dcordes> ther's only OZ and pdaxrom
Jun 23 15:08:30 <mimecar> ok, thanks
Jun 23 15:08:49 <mimecar> I wrote that summary before I got the zaurus c1000
Jun 23 15:09:19 <hagisbasheruk> i did ln -s /usr/lib/libboost_regex.so /lib/libboost_regex.so.1.33.1 and another lib to resolve cassing another error,guess i had better install boost 1.33.1
Jun 23 15:10:21 <hagisbasheruk> any devs in here using monotone 0.35 ?
Jun 23 15:10:28 <mimecar> i don't
Jun 23 15:10:31 <hagisbasheruk> or 0.34 even
Jun 23 15:13:11 <dcordes> hagisbasheruk, :X monotone 0.32 (base revision: 3f0fa5c1d232d37d47f6436fe74919dd3cd003b1)
Jun 23 15:13:18 <dcordes> but I'm no dev
Jun 23 15:13:32 <hagisbasheruk> thats quite old
Jun 23 15:13:59 <dcordes> You think I should upgrade?
Jun 23 15:14:35 <mimecar> you should use always the lastest version of a program
Jun 23 15:14:40 <hagisbasheruk> not just now until the boost error gets fixed
Jun 23 15:15:22 <hagisbasheruk> waiting for fix hopefully anytime now
Jun 23 15:15:55 <dcordes> hagisbasheruk, do you think I should upgrade?
Jun 23 15:16:47 <hagisbasheruk> yes but then you will need to find fix ,i suggest using boost 1.33.1 with monotone 0.34
Jun 23 15:18:43 <dcordes> hagisbasheruk, what's boost?
Jun 23 15:19:01 <hagisbasheruk> what distro you got OE SDK on dcordes ?
Jun 23 15:19:25 <dcordes> hagisbasheruk, ubuntu 7.04
Jun 23 15:20:17 <hagisbasheruk> check your ubuntu forums for any probs first
Jun 23 15:20:57 <dcordes> hagisbasheruk, think I will just stick with that ancient and obsolete version for now
Jun 23 15:21:21 <hagisbasheruk> boost is required for monotone
Jun 23 15:21:39 <hagisbasheruk> http://www.boost.org/
Jun 23 15:23:18 <hagisbasheruk> man thats why fimiliar is dying LOL
Jun 23 15:23:32 <dcordes> hagisbasheruk, hm?
Jun 23 15:24:30 <hagisbasheruk> devs get lazy to update packages and stuff gets too old
Jun 23 15:26:11 <hagisbasheruk> trying to get m8 to fix boost/monotone prob with latest versions
Jun 23 15:28:26 <hagisbasheruk> mmm..... i wonder why i recognise the name koen 
Jun 23 15:30:56 <hagisbasheruk> mabey its just a popular name
Jun 23 20:44:13 <TheCreat0r> hello
Jun 23 20:44:24 <TheCreat0r> having some trouble with your poodle release
Jun 23 20:44:55 <summatusmentis> building? or a pre-built image?
Jun 23 20:44:55 <TheCreat0r> i get a flash write error at the end of flashing my zaurus 5600
Jun 23 20:45:02 <TheCreat0r> jffs image
Jun 23 20:45:11 <mimecar> hi
Jun 23 20:45:15 <TheCreat0r> but when i try the console image it works 
Jun 23 20:45:20 <summatusmentis> hi mimecar 
Jun 23 20:45:26 <TheCreat0r> so it must be the x11 image
Jun 23 20:45:35 <summatusmentis> TheCreat0r: can you give the exact error?
Jun 23 20:45:38 <mimecar> hi summatusmentis
Jun 23 20:45:44 <TheCreat0r> i tried earlier releases also but they dont work
Jun 23 20:45:58 <TheCreat0r> sure i'll just reflash, sec
Jun 23 20:49:32 <TheCreat0r> summatusmentis : after RO file system, i get FLASH erasing...done then i get
Jun 23 20:49:44 <TheCreat0r> when it hits 100% the following error
Jun 23 20:49:52 <TheCreat0r> ERROR:flash write
Jun 23 20:49:57 <TheCreat0r> Error!
Jun 23 20:50:01 <TheCreat0r> Please reset
Jun 23 20:50:10 <TheCreat0r> thats it
Jun 23 20:50:32 <summatusmentis> hrm... and upon resetting, does it boot into x11?
Jun 23 20:53:23 <TheCreat0r> yeah
Jun 23 20:53:32 <TheCreat0r> i calibrate the skylus
Jun 23 20:53:38 <TheCreat0r> stylus
Jun 23 20:53:39 <TheCreat0r> then
Jun 23 20:53:43 <TheCreat0r> i setup a login
Jun 23 20:53:53 <TheCreat0r> then when i go to login it says "starting poodle"
Jun 23 20:54:09 <TheCreat0r> and then i get errors about not being able to find certain fpng files
Jun 23 20:54:34 <Zero_Chaos> TheCreat0r: we agreed in #aircrack-ng that your image was bigger than your flash
Jun 23 20:54:38 <Zero_Chaos> ;-)
Jun 23 20:54:46 <Zero_Chaos> TheCreat0r: at least, it seems that way
Jun 23 20:55:10 <Zero_Chaos> TheCreat0r: I'd try minimalist and/or altboot
Jun 23 20:55:11 <TheCreat0r> how can it be tho
Jun 23 20:55:19 <Zero_Chaos> 16:57 < ~TheCreat0r> ERROR:flash write
Jun 23 20:55:19 <Zero_Chaos> 16:57 < ~TheCreat0r> Error!
Jun 23 20:55:19 <Zero_Chaos> 16:57 < ~TheCreat0r> Please reset
Jun 23 20:55:23 <Zero_Chaos> how can it not be?
Jun 23 20:55:30 <TheCreat0r> Zero_Chaos : console install works
Jun 23 20:55:39 <Zero_Chaos> *ding ding ding*
Jun 23 20:55:45 <TheCreat0r> yeah yeah :)
Jun 23 20:56:03 <Zero_Chaos> the image on my Z says it's not that buggy ;-)
Jun 23 20:56:18 <TheCreat0r> so now i should go back to using OZ, then use altboot to boot off cf?
Jun 23 20:56:20 <TheCreat0r> man
Jun 23 20:58:00 <TheCreat0r> summatusmentis : first error i get after logging in is -> failed to open file '/usr/share/pixmaps//lock/png':no such file or directory
Jun 23 20:58:19 <TheCreat0r> then same for lock16.png
Jun 23 20:58:53 <summatusmentis> I'm w/ Zero_Chaos, it looks as though your image is slightly too large
Jun 23 20:59:06 <TheCreat0r> bugger
Jun 23 20:59:20 <TheCreat0r> will it be fixed on next release?
Jun 23 21:00:32 <TheCreat0r> Zero_Chaos : what version of aircrack-ng do you run on your c1000?
Jun 23 21:02:14 <summatusmentis> TheCreat0r: I don't honestly know, how big is the image file you downloaded?
Jun 23 21:04:11 <Zero_Chaos> TheCreat0r: 0.9 of course ;-0
Jun 23 21:04:41 <Zero_Chaos> TheCreat0r: and there has been no "release" of angstrom, you are using a daily build
Jun 23 21:06:36 <summatusmentis> that's a good point, angstrom is still beta
Jun 23 21:06:58 <Zero_Chaos> thanks
Jun 23 21:07:03 <hagisbasheruk> zerghase, are you Chaos Zero who does easy installers for psp ?
Jun 23 21:07:08 <TheCreat0r> 23MB
Jun 23 21:07:10 <Zero_Chaos> so if the image doesn't fit perfectly, I believe it
Jun 23 21:07:16 <hagisbasheruk> Zero_Chaos, even
Jun 23 21:07:26 <Zero_Chaos> hagisbasheruk: I don't think that angstrom supports PSP
Jun 23 21:07:39 <summatusmentis> he's asking a different question
Jun 23 21:07:40 <TheCreat0r> lol.
Jun 23 21:08:00 <hagisbasheruk> mmm...... same sarcasm 
Jun 23 21:08:14 <Zero_Chaos> oh, no I have nothing to do with PSP in any way
Jun 23 21:08:29 <hagisbasheruk> okay ;)
Jun 23 21:08:31 <summatusmentis> TheCreat0r: 23MB is how big the image is... what's the internal flash size on the poodle?
Jun 23 21:08:47 <TheCreat0r> 32MB
Jun 23 21:09:14 <TheCreat0r> it should fit
Jun 23 21:09:16 <hagisbasheruk> sorry carry on 
Jun 23 21:09:36 <Zero_Chaos> hagisbasheruk: no problem
Jun 23 21:09:36 <summatusmentis> it should, this is true... and the size you checked was the x11 image, right?
Jun 23 21:09:50 <TheCreat0r> yeah 23MB on x11
Jun 23 21:10:06 <Zero_Chaos> 32 megs of flash in total, the flash is usually paritioned out
Jun 23 21:10:12 <TheCreat0r> ah
Jun 23 21:10:21 <Zero_Chaos> check OZ, find out how big the poodle images should be
Jun 23 21:10:33 <summatusmentis> Zero_Chaos: partitioned? so, it's possible the partition is getting in the way?
Jun 23 21:10:49 <Zero_Chaos> but of course
Jun 23 21:11:02 <Zero_Chaos> collie had 16MB of flash but root could only be 13.7 I think
Jun 23 21:11:10 <Zero_Chaos> 2.3 for kernel
Jun 23 21:11:12 <TheCreat0r> opie is 16.728
Jun 23 21:11:26 <Zero_Chaos> TheCreat0r: then likely you are partitioned
Jun 23 21:11:28 <TheCreat0r> gpe is ~ 19
Jun 23 21:11:35 <koen> poodle only has 21MB of flash
Jun 23 21:11:43 <TheCreat0r> how annoying
Jun 23 21:11:44 <koen> and yes, we suck, the x11 images are too big for that
Jun 23 21:11:57 <Zero_Chaos> koen: that's what we thought, thanks for clearing it up
Jun 23 21:12:06 <Zero_Chaos> TheCreat0r: koen is the man, so, he is right
Jun 23 21:12:18 <TheCreat0r> hehe :)
Jun 23 21:12:20 <psokolovsky_> btw, I'm right now pushing opie images fitting in 16mb ;-)
Jun 23 21:12:21 <Zero_Chaos> TheCreat0r: my suggestion, use minimalist and loopback a bigger image if you like
Jun 23 21:12:28 <summatusmentis> koen: I undestand it's not overly pressing at ths point, but will it be fixed anytime soon?
Jun 23 21:12:28 * Zero_Chaos hugs psokolovsky_ 
Jun 23 21:12:34 <psokolovsky_> so yes, OE can build unbloated images ;-)
Jun 23 21:12:52 <koen> summatusmentis: sure when someone looks into it
Jun 23 21:12:53 <Zero_Chaos> psokolovsky_: of course, they just have to be custom ;-)
Jun 23 21:12:54 <summatusmentis> psokolovsky_: are this including collie?
Jun 23 21:13:04 <TheCreat0r> Zero_Chaos : no idea how to do that, just got playing with the zaurus last night
Jun 23 21:13:08 <Zero_Chaos> summatusmentis: not if it is 16 ;-)
Jun 23 21:13:19 <psokolovsky_> summatusmentis: this includes any machine. but nope, I don't endorse flashing it ;-)
Jun 23 21:13:22 <summatusmentis> koen: ok, just a matter of deciding what should be there?
Jun 23 21:13:23 <Zero_Chaos> TheCreat0r: there are a lot of docs on openzaurus.org and angstrom-distribution.org
Jun 23 21:13:27 <psokolovsky_> it boots in qemu though ;-)
Jun 23 21:13:31 <summatusmentis> lol
Jun 23 21:13:39 <Zero_Chaos> TheCreat0r: if you seriously want to play with the device, I'd suggest reading a bit.
Jun 23 21:13:44 <koen> summatusmentis: deciding what shouldn't be there :)
Jun 23 21:14:05 <koen> e.g bluetooth, wifi, avahi, etc
Jun 23 21:14:08 <summatusmentis> koen: of course, that's what I meant :-P
Jun 23 21:14:14 <koen> (strace, gdb, etc)
Jun 23 21:14:42 <psokolovsky_> koen: btw, x11 images started to be really bloated ~ after you enabled mesa stuff. Why?
Jun 23 21:14:49 <koen> and find out why some package drags in -dev and -dbg packages
Jun 23 21:15:00 <TheCreat0r> Zero_Chaos :i dont mind reading, its the constant barriers
Jun 23 21:15:14 <koen> psokolovsky_: mesa is only enabled for sdl, and afaik sdl isn't shipped
Jun 23 21:15:17 <summatusmentis> koen: hrm... thats something I could actually be useful on :-P
Jun 23 21:15:51 <Zero_Chaos> koen: did you make the pdf for OE or are you just hosting it?
Jun 23 21:15:54 <koen> psokolovsky_: maybe something like mesa and needs an explicit disable?
Jun 23 21:15:55 <TheCreat0r> Zero_Chaos : so i could just loopback to my sd card and launch x11 of it?
Jun 23 21:15:58 <Zero_Chaos> koen: the user manual
Jun 23 21:16:06 <Zero_Chaos> TheCreat0r: something like that, yes
Jun 23 21:16:20 <koen> Zero_Chaos: 'make pdf' in the org.oe.documentation branch should give you the pdf
Jun 23 21:16:52 <Zero_Chaos> koen: I meant I was reading the wiki and saw this : http://www.openembedded.org/%7Ekoen/usermanual.pdf
Jun 23 21:16:54 <koen> it's the same as http://www.openembedded.org/user-manual&dpage=recipes_header (which is updated automagically)
Jun 23 21:17:03 <psokolovsky_> koen: well, yes, you're right, no trace of sdl/mesa. still, jffs2 is now 20mb+ ;-(
Jun 23 21:17:10 <koen> Zero_Chaos: yes, that's generated out the the .documentation branch
Jun 23 21:17:11 * Zero_Chaos should likely pull org.or.documentation
Jun 23 21:17:18 <Zero_Chaos> koen: cool, thanks
Jun 23 21:17:39 <Zero_Chaos> s/or/oe
Jun 23 21:17:47 <TheCreat0r> Zero_Chaos, i believe i have the dev environment installed
Jun 23 21:17:58 <Zero_Chaos> TheCreat0r: this is good.
Jun 23 21:18:04 <Zero_Chaos> TheCreat0r: and up to date ? ;-)
Jun 23 21:18:16 <TheCreat0r> yeah, after an hour or mtn update :)
Jun 23 21:18:26 <TheCreat0r> man mtn takes years to build huh
Jun 23 21:18:30 <TheCreat0r> of*
Jun 23 21:18:45 <koen> psokolovsky_: I'd like to have a lot more image targets in OE for angstrom so people stop complaining about image<foo> not doing <bar>
Jun 23 21:18:45 <Zero_Chaos> TheCreat0r: I thought monotone is quick, compared to boost
Jun 23 21:18:50 <Zero_Chaos> ~lart boost
Jun 23 21:18:57 <TheCreat0r> lol
Jun 23 21:19:03 <TheCreat0r> boost = lol
Jun 23 21:19:22 * koen uses the static mtn builds from monotone.ca
Jun 23 21:19:24 <TheCreat0r> boost kicked my ass also
Jun 23 21:19:48 * Zero_Chaos uses gentoo, so building from source never seems that scary.... except boost ;-)
Jun 23 21:20:00 <TheCreat0r> :)
Jun 23 21:20:05 <TheCreat0r> <-- slackware 
Jun 23 21:20:13 <koen> monotone is trying hard to loose the boost dependency
Jun 23 21:20:49 <Zero_Chaos> Monotone 0.40 released, now with 90% less teh suck and no boost deps!
Jun 23 21:20:50 <Zero_Chaos> heh
Jun 23 21:20:55 <Zero_Chaos> j/k
Jun 23 21:21:48 <TheCreat0r> Zero_Chaos : should have a c1000 to play with come monday
Jun 23 21:22:02 <TheCreat0r> keyboard on 5600 = pain
Jun 23 21:22:13 <summatusmentis> HATE@sysvinit buid!!!
Jun 23 21:22:27 <summatusmentis> TheCreat0r: excellent, then get testing on the 5600 :-P
Jun 23 21:22:34 <TheCreat0r> lol
Jun 23 21:22:50 <summatusmentis> don't be a useless lurker like yours truly :-D
Jun 23 21:23:03 <Zero_Chaos> TheCreat0r: you bought a c1000? I like mine a lot, but sometimes I wish I had the HD... but it is so expensive, and SD is so cheap ;-)
Jun 23 21:23:31 <TheCreat0r> Zero_Chaos, also hdd failure is annoying
Jun 23 21:23:37 <Zero_Chaos> I'm sure
Jun 23 21:23:39 <TheCreat0r> sd is dirt cheap
Jun 23 21:23:57 <TheCreat0r> saw a 8gb sd card go for £60
Jun 23 21:24:04 <TheCreat0r> couldn't believe my eyes
Jun 23 21:24:06 * summatusmentis <3's his 6GB hdd in 3200
Jun 23 21:24:11 <TheCreat0r> lol
Jun 23 21:24:39 <Zero_Chaos> I'd rather have 8GB SD over 8GB microdrive even if the microdrive is built in
Jun 23 21:24:41 <TheCreat0r> my first pc had a 50mb hdd
Jun 23 21:24:48 <Zero_Chaos> SD doesn't fail like microdrives
Jun 23 21:24:52 <Zero_Chaos> and no moving parts
Jun 23 21:24:54 <TheCreat0r> yeah
Jun 23 21:25:11 <summatusmentis> Zero_Chaos: so hdd fails, I replace it w/ a CF card
Jun 23 21:25:16 <TheCreat0r> andstrom support up to 8GB sd ?
Jun 23 21:25:26 <TheCreat0r> angstrom*
Jun 23 21:26:02 <TheCreat0r> on c1000 that is
Jun 23 21:26:18 <Zero_Chaos> should
Jun 23 21:26:27 <Zero_Chaos> summatusmentis: and then no more cf wifi for you ;-)
Jun 23 21:26:45 <summatusmentis> Zero_Chaos: there's a mod out there that replaces the internal HD w/ CF
Jun 23 21:27:06 <Zero_Chaos> summatusmentis: I am sure, does it work with C1000? I have a spare 8GB microdrive ;-)
Jun 23 21:27:23 <TheCreat0r> lol
Jun 23 21:27:31 <summatusmentis> I don't think so... you could check though :-P
Jun 23 21:27:57 <TheCreat0r> Zero_Chaos : better to use altboot ?
Jun 23 21:28:15 <Zero_Chaos> TheCreat0r: for you, on poodle yes.  C1000 has 128MB of flash
Jun 23 21:28:20 <Zero_Chaos> anyway, got to run, later all
Jun 23 21:28:28 <TheCreat0r> ciao
Jun 23 21:28:37 <summatusmentis> bye Zero_Chaos 
Jun 23 21:28:52 <hagisbasheruk> cya
Jun 23 21:30:21 <TheCreat0r> oh shit, i just noticed, step 4 failed when setting up my dev environment
Jun 23 21:34:42 <hagisbasheruk> monotone seems to be having issues with boost , well with me and some others using ArchLinux
Jun 23 21:35:11 <hagisbasheruk> http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/7409   bugreport and patches
Jun 23 21:38:32 <TheCreat0r> quick question, so in step 4 when im setting up the angstrom dev environment, machine name would be "poodle" right?
Jun 23 21:38:46 <summatusmentis> yep
Jun 23 21:39:10 <summatusmentis> that is MACHINE="poodle"
Jun 23 21:39:36 <TheCreat0r> ah ok
Jun 23 21:39:42 <TheCreat0r> hmm, bitbake is being a pain now
Jun 23 21:40:00 <summatusmentis> bitbake likes being a pain.. it plays favorites w/ people
Jun 23 21:40:07 <summatusmentis> it happens to not like me very much
Jun 23 21:40:15 <TheCreat0r> lol
Jun 23 21:40:25 <rwhitby> bitbake can sense fear - it's like a dog
Jun 23 21:40:34 <hagisbasheruk> i call it bitchbake :P
Jun 23 21:40:38 <TheCreat0r> i just ran the command: bitbake angstrom-minimal-image
Jun 23 21:40:46 <rwhitby> you need to teach it who's boss.
Jun 23 21:40:49 * summatusmentis is NOT afraid
Jun 23 21:40:52 <TheCreat0r> and got: Traceback (most recent call last):
Jun 23 21:41:11 <TheCreat0r> File "/usr/local/bin/bitbake", line 27, in?
Jun 23 21:41:13 <summatusmentis> rwhitby: I would have to know who's boss first :-P
Jun 23 21:41:14 <TheCreat0r> import bb
Jun 23 21:41:25 <TheCreat0r> ImportError: No module named bb
Jun 23 21:41:27 <TheCreat0r> what the hell
Jun 23 21:42:04 <TheCreat0r> any ideas?
Jun 23 21:45:19 <TheCreat0r> my brother in law's laugh sounds like dick dasteradly
Jun 23 21:45:21 <rwhitby> your bitbake path is not set up correctly
Jun 23 21:45:38 <TheCreat0r> a
Jun 23 21:45:39 <TheCreat0r> h
Jun 23 21:45:56 <rwhitby> this is exactly the reason why nslu2-linux uses the master makefile ...
Jun 23 21:46:24 <TheCreat0r> ill just add it to path
Jun 23 21:46:25 <TheCreat0r> sec
Jun 23 21:48:28 <TheCreat0r> hmm
Jun 23 21:48:48 <TheCreat0r> just need to add path to bitbake lib directory right?
Jun 23 21:49:15 <TheCreat0r> ah its bin
Jun 23 21:49:33 <TheCreat0r> hmm still doesn't work
Jun 23 21:51:50 <TheCreat0r> rwhitby : i added the bin directory to the path, still no go
Jun 23 21:55:58 <rwhitby> not shell path, bitbake path
Jun 23 21:56:16 * summatusmentis leaves for a while
Jun 23 22:00:43 <TheCreat0r> rwhitby : also had to set PYTHONPATH and BBPATH
Jun 23 22:01:20 <TheCreat0r> rwhitby : hmm says my MACHINE variable isn't correct
Jun 23 22:01:32 <TheCreat0r> should just be poodle right?
Jun 23 22:01:49 <rwhitby> don't look at me - I only own ixp4xx OE targets.
Jun 23 22:05:10 <TheCreat0r> hehe
Jun 23 22:05:30 <TheCreat0r> seems to be working now, not sure why, all i did was rerun the command
Jun 23 22:05:33 <TheCreat0r> bah.
Jun 23 22:15:28 <hagisbasheruk__> good night folks
Jun 23 22:32:33 <TheCreat0r> hmm got an error when i was using: bitbake angstrom-minimal
Jun 23 22:32:57 <TheCreat0r> ERROR : No providers of build target angstrom-minimal (for [])
Jun 23 22:33:10 <TheCreat0r> any idea how to resolve this
Jun 23 22:33:11 <TheCreat0r> ?
Jun 23 22:53:39 <rwhitby> TheCreat0r: dunno - I encoded all the hundreds of setup steps into a Makefile for nslu2-linux ... so no-one in that project has problems like these.
Jun 23 22:53:50 <rwhitby> sorry
Jun 23 22:54:12 <TheCreat0r> http://projects.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-commits/2007-May/005250.html
Jun 23 22:54:31 <TheCreat0r> quite an annoying problem
Jun 23 22:55:17 <TheCreat0r> i think keon discovered it and fixed it
Jun 23 22:55:32 <TheCreat0r> i tried to apply the patch but it didn't have any affect
Jun 24 01:34:41 <Zero_Chaos> TheCreat0r: you fix it yet?
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