**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jun 25 02:59:56 2007 Jun 25 03:07:15 arrgh Jun 25 03:07:25 just reboot my ipaq with current angstrom kernel Jun 25 03:07:44 bluetooth and suspend... they`re gone Jun 25 03:08:12 but kernel log on screen is somewhat funny Jun 25 08:36:08 is angstrom working on h2200 Ipaq? Jun 25 08:43:09 yes Jun 25 08:44:55 gpsbabel with usb support uploaded Jun 25 08:47:45 hi pH5 Jun 25 08:47:57 hi hrw Jun 25 08:49:22 whats the difference between the x11 and x11-summary images? Jun 25 08:52:06 waste of 10M to get slightly faster boot time Jun 25 08:52:16 lol Jun 25 08:52:24 why's it called summary? Jun 25 08:52:38 some extra jffs2 journaling magic or something Jun 25 08:53:07 but its only 1mb larger in size, so wh ya waste of 10m? Jun 25 08:53:30 the amount wasted depends on image size Jun 25 08:53:47 Im used to making huge ass images for c860 device Jun 25 08:53:51 jffs2 summary is a way to get mount time shorter by storing extra stuff in image Jun 25 08:54:05 htw : is it worth it? Jun 25 08:54:17 hrw * Jun 25 08:54:34 it is Jun 25 08:55:11 hrw : ok, thx Jun 25 08:55:32 hrw : by the way, i checked out your blog, impressive stuff :) Jun 25 08:56:03 thx Jun 25 10:18:02 hey all Jun 25 11:37:58 gah why do spammers never check whether their comments posted or not, then they would stop hammering my machine Jun 25 11:41:02 ;] Jun 25 11:41:05 hi Jun 25 11:41:20 yo Jun 25 11:42:09 any alsa soc developers here maybe :)? Jun 25 11:42:20 I need a bit of help with implementing a new set of drivers Jun 25 11:46:10 filip: yes Jun 25 11:46:27 filip: there is me and lrg on #oe Jun 25 11:48:10 that's great :) Jun 25 12:45:20 koen: stop with the webcore browsers and make them all webkit :-) Jun 25 12:46:22 right now I'm building them all :) Jun 25 12:47:09 kick zecke to stop with that moko-python stuff and get working on pr0nbrowser-webkit :-) Jun 25 12:51:21 XorA: ERROR: QA Issue: non -dev package contains symlink .so: kazehakase path '/work/armv4t-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/kazehakase-0.4.7-r0/install/kazehakase/usr/lib/kazehakase/libkazehakase.so' Jun 25 12:51:57 koen: file a bug :-) Jun 25 12:52:28 I'm not sure if it's a bug or some weird webkitisms :) Jun 25 12:52:35 it looks like bug in insane Jun 25 12:52:59 it is normal to have unversioned plugins in libdir Jun 25 12:54:02 yes, but it's a ' symlink .so' Jun 25 12:54:58 so bug in packaging Jun 25 12:55:15 or in app Jun 25 12:55:23 right Jun 25 13:37:15 bb.parse.ParseError: Could not inherit file classes/rootfs_${IMAGE_PKGTYPE}.bbclass Jun 25 13:37:21 ^^ what does tha mean? Jun 25 13:37:33 wrong BBFILES? Jun 25 13:38:09 it's an error I'm getting at the do_rootfs stage of the collie console-image build Jun 25 13:40:32 koen: BBFILES = "/mnt/VIRTUAL/OE/org.openembedded.dev/packages/*/*.bb" Jun 25 13:40:36 is that wrong for angstrom? Jun 25 13:41:29 looks ok Jun 25 13:42:31 summatusmentis: did you try and build angstrom-2001.1-oabi ? Jun 25 13:43:02 XorA: no, I was under the impression that angstrom.2007.1 was all set for collie, and that I didn't need the oabi part anymore Jun 25 13:43:34 summatusmentis: cool, just that I think an incorrect DISTRO can make that error, I think it means that it doesnt know what type of packages you wanted Jun 25 13:44:08 XorA: MACHINE="collie" DISTRO="angstrom-2007.1" bitbake angstrom-console-image Jun 25 13:44:10 that's the command I ran Jun 25 13:45:10 setting DISTRO from env isn't really supported Jun 25 13:45:59 hrm... ok Jun 25 13:46:29 I had it setup that way because I thought I'd need to change it for oabi(because of collie), but that got changed, I guess I could leave that out Jun 25 13:55:16 koen: that was the reason Jun 25 13:55:28 koen: is there a reason it's not supported? Jun 25 13:55:56 Noone tried it before Jun 25 14:24:46 polyonymous: ping Jun 25 14:36:04 koen: are the modules for collie needed?(the kernel modules built by OE) Jun 25 14:37:00 dunno, I don't have a collie Jun 25 14:37:10 alright, thanks Jun 25 14:37:29 quick someone post koen a collie :-) Jun 25 14:40:48 it seems the kazehakazehazehazkehamakakazenipponfoobar crash can be fixed Jun 25 14:42:08 koen: I have patched on of them, a simple null pointer problem Jun 25 14:42:14 s/on/one/ Jun 25 14:42:19 the other is missing icons Jun 25 14:42:56 what the one where you www.google.com and it crashes Jun 25 14:46:16 midori renders css as texts, kazesomething crashes due to missing webcore icons and gpe-mini-browser lacks ssl Jun 25 14:53:17 hi Jun 25 14:53:20 * XorA means when he has time to split libnpsr our of mozilla builds, then we can try non mozilla browsers based on gecko Jun 25 14:53:22 i need information Jun 25 14:53:31 i have an hx4700 Jun 25 14:53:36 fausto: is it not sunny in Scotland Jun 25 14:54:02 i have installed angstrom, and it is quite good but i would like opie Jun 25 14:54:19 fausto: opie was added like 2 days ago Jun 25 14:54:58 how can i install amstrong with opie (i accept old version) and not with gpe Jun 25 14:55:39 right now, you have to build it Jun 25 14:55:46 Zero_Chaos, where i can download an image of angstrom with opie? Jun 25 14:56:05 you can't, I just said you have to build it Jun 25 14:56:20 uh ok Jun 25 14:56:54 and can you link me some documentation about building angstrom with opie? Jun 25 14:57:47 http://linuxtogo.org/gowiki/OpieWithAngstrom Jun 25 14:58:04 there is a new target image as well, should make it even easier Jun 25 14:58:14 ok Jun 25 14:58:17 thank you.. Jun 25 14:58:39 Zero_Chaos: what's the target? Jun 25 14:59:06 I can't recall, I am sure it has opie in the title Jun 25 14:59:12 lol Jun 25 14:59:18 psokolovsky_: what is the opie target for angstrom you added? Jun 25 14:59:52 Zero_Chaos: http://www.linuxtogo.org/gowiki/OpieWithAngstrom Jun 25 15:00:24 you need to add following lines to your local.conf: <---- on the handheld?? Jun 25 15:00:34 psokolovsky_: I just pasted that not 10 lines ago... didn't you add a new image? Jun 25 15:00:45 i must reinstall angstrom with gpe first?? Jun 25 15:00:52 fausto: NO, in the build system... this is a developer channel not a user channel Jun 25 15:00:52 fausto: no, www.openembedded.org/wiki/GettingStarted (I think is the URL) Jun 25 15:01:24 uh ok Jun 25 15:01:25 ! Jun 25 15:01:30 which is sort of confusing, as #openzaurus is the user channel... just something to point out Jun 25 15:01:44 Zero_Chaos: I kinda did. ask specific q's please. Jun 25 15:01:52 summatusmentis: read the topic, just something to point out Jun 25 15:02:13 Zero_Chaos: I know, I'm just saying Jun 25 15:02:23 psokolovsky_: did you add a new targe that builds opie for angstrom 2 days ago? what was it called? (specific q) Jun 25 15:02:24 fausto: so yes, you need to build such an image yourself, on your desktop system, and that page described needed settings in *addition* to standard angstrom ones Jun 25 15:02:53 mmm ok Jun 25 15:03:01 Zero_Chaos: it was opie-image-16mb. its purpose must be clear from the name. Jun 25 15:03:32 psokolovsky_: thanks, I was presuming that already had the inc and so anyone could easily build it ;-) Jun 25 15:04:39 Zero_Chaos: well, it's adhoc target and a work in progress. I target it for liveramdisks, not real production use. though devices with 16mb of flash can benfit from it too. Jun 25 15:04:53 indeed Jun 25 15:05:29 searching google Jun 25 15:06:00 i found the instruction to rebuild Jun 25 15:06:03 fausto: www.openembedded.org/wiki/GettingStarted (I think is the URL) will help you setup openembedded Jun 25 15:06:16 yes... thanks Jun 25 15:06:50 it takes a while to get used to, just FYI Jun 25 15:11:07 earlier start, quicker results ;-) Jun 25 15:11:43 lol Jun 25 15:12:00 this is true... it still hates me, but I'm ok w/ that Jun 25 15:17:29 i get error when mtn --db=/stuff/OE.mtn pull monotone.openembedded.org org.openembedded.dev Jun 25 15:17:37 give me some abuse: error Jun 25 15:18:03 about schema and version of layout of the OE.mnt packet Jun 25 15:18:25 :< Jun 25 15:18:33 what version of monotone do you have? Jun 25 15:19:03 monotone 0.31 Jun 25 15:19:15 fu** 0.32 (or newer) Jun 25 15:19:19 is required! Jun 25 15:19:39 yeah, what distro? Jun 25 15:21:24 * summatusmentis leaves Jun 25 15:21:27 good luck fausto Jun 25 15:21:41 i'm using ubuntu Jun 25 15:21:47 uh Jun 25 15:21:49 bye bye Jun 25 15:21:55 thank you for hints Jun 25 15:22:10 fausto: there might be a newer version for ubuntu, I'm not sure Jun 25 15:22:16 but I've gotta head out now, sorry Jun 25 15:22:38 bye Jun 25 15:24:48 see http://monotone.ca Jun 25 15:24:56 already downloaded Jun 25 15:25:02 i'm migrating database Jun 25 15:25:26 (the program request me a migration) Jun 25 15:29:05 fausto: cool, you passed 1st stage ;-). there're people who manage to post that message and ask what to do ;-) Jun 25 15:29:54 i hope that other stage is not difficult..because this stage is simple but the word rebuild is scary... Jun 25 15:30:07 (excuse my english, i'm italian) Jun 25 15:31:24 pulling is slow ... Jun 25 15:39:17 XorA: it now segfaults a bit later :( Jun 25 15:39:59 koen: damn .jp dodgy code Jun 25 15:40:19 ok... now i have to configure local.conf Jun 25 15:40:26 but what configuration for hx4700 Jun 25 15:40:28 * koen fires up gdb Jun 25 15:40:32 and how to configure Jun 25 15:40:43 fausto: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/building-angstrom Jun 25 15:40:45 have you got links to documents about configuration Jun 25 15:40:52 koen, good :> Jun 25 15:48:44 gah, it uses threads Jun 25 15:48:55 * koen declares gdb useless Jun 25 15:52:40 good Jun 25 15:52:55 configured!! as explained Jun 25 15:52:58 now... Jun 25 15:53:07 how to build the images?? Jun 25 15:53:27 fausto: you are configured for your machine? Jun 25 15:53:34 yes Jun 25 15:53:46 i followed steep by steep http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/building-angstrom Jun 25 15:53:50 fausto: bitbake opie-image-16mb Jun 25 15:53:54 I believe Jun 25 15:55:04 errr Jun 25 15:55:07 i have a problem Jun 25 15:55:17 i have downloaded and unpacked bitbake Jun 25 15:55:31 but now i have to install it... or not? Jun 25 15:55:47 if you followed the direction, you would know to add it to the path Jun 25 15:56:06 11:14 < summatusmentis> fausto: www.openembedded.org/wiki/GettingStarted Jun 25 15:56:15 yes ok Jun 25 16:02:30 i get errors when bitbake Jun 25 16:02:35 a lot of errors!! Jun 25 16:02:48 ERROR: argument of type 'NoneType' is not iterable while parsing /stuff/org.openembedded.dev/packages/vlc/vlc-gpe_0.8.1.bb Jun 25 16:03:15 this is one on 1 million Jun 25 16:03:44 maybe i have errors on config Jun 25 16:10:10 Please install following missing utilities: makeinfo Jun 25 16:10:32 sh** i haven't it on repository... what's the name of the package on ubuntu?? Jun 25 16:11:45 fausto: texi2html Jun 25 16:12:08 texi2html is already the newest version. Jun 25 16:12:24 afaik there is somewhere a list with packages u need Jun 25 16:13:49 ok Jun 25 16:13:53 downloaded and installed Jun 25 16:14:06 ok bitbake working Jun 25 16:14:33 by the way... now i download the package with opie Jun 25 16:14:43 and how i can download the kernel Jun 25 16:14:57 and the other stuff Jun 25 16:15:10 http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/RequiredSoftware Jun 25 16:15:25 zerghase, already installed makeinfo :> Jun 25 16:15:39 thank you Jun 25 16:16:12 fausto: you should really read this http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/GettingStarted <: "Before you proceed, please look at the important bits of RequiredSoftware that must be installed on your system." Jun 25 16:17:32 if i havent some utilities it give an error or not? Jun 25 16:17:42 i had some error for missing utilities.. Jun 25 16:17:45 i fixed all Jun 25 16:18:37 For me it worked after installing everything there ^^ Jun 25 16:18:38 g2g Jun 25 16:26:03 fausto: build-essentials Jun 25 16:26:13 fausto: apt-get install build-essentials Jun 25 16:26:28 already fixed Jun 25 16:26:37 included in package texinfo Jun 25 16:26:41 all good Jun 25 16:26:59 now i have to download and build the images with opie Jun 25 16:27:08 in this part i'm a bit confised Jun 25 16:27:13 confuesd Jun 25 16:27:27 can help me?? bitbake opie-image-16mb Jun 25 16:27:29 an then? Jun 25 16:29:15 then it builds for a long time Jun 25 16:30:05 yes i see Jun 25 16:30:06 :> Jun 25 16:30:14 and then i must build a kernel Jun 25 16:30:29 and then flash the image that i have builded? Jun 25 16:31:11 long time... but how long on a centrino core duo 1.6? Jun 25 16:31:41 it will build the kernel, and a while Jun 25 16:32:31 i don't understand good how bitbake works.. Jun 25 16:32:37 but it seems to be simple.. Jun 25 16:32:41 I know. Jun 25 16:32:49 ^_^ Jun 25 16:32:55 simple for user Jun 25 16:33:37 i ask for a image and bitbake builds it for me ... Jun 25 16:34:03 and then give me the image ready to be flashed on my handheld Jun 25 16:34:03 until it dies, and takes 5 days to build :-P Jun 25 16:34:16 shi** 5 days to build Jun 25 16:34:22 no, not normallyu Jun 25 16:34:25 normally Jun 25 16:34:29 ah Jun 25 16:34:49 I've just had issue after issue after issue with the building of a console image, so I'm a bit bitter Jun 25 16:35:38 mmm Jun 25 16:35:54 but i can do all with a bitbake opie-image-16mb Jun 25 16:35:56 or not Jun 25 16:36:04 yes Jun 25 16:36:09 uh ok Jun 25 16:36:45 Zero_Chaos: fyi, the collie image built, finally Jun 25 16:37:13 summatusmentis: SWEET Jun 25 16:37:16 summatusmentis: congrats Jun 25 16:37:42 now I need to check and see if any of the 12 times it died killed something Jun 25 16:37:56 then I'm probably making an opie image, for loopback Jun 25 16:38:25 i like opie Jun 25 16:38:29 it's good Jun 25 16:38:37 ;> Jun 25 16:39:21 I prefer GPE normally, but on the 5500, I think opie is a better fit Jun 25 16:40:03 ok Jun 25 16:44:21 ok. i leave it compiling. i'm going out... can i ask some other question here later? Jun 25 16:44:41 because now i have executed bitbake opie-image-16mb Jun 25 16:44:53 now i must execute bitbake zImage?? Jun 25 16:45:04 and then create a reflash.ctl file?' Jun 25 16:47:55 fausto: IT DOES EVERYTHING, JUST ONE COMMAND Jun 25 16:48:22 ok Jun 25 16:48:28 and then for reflashing Jun 25 16:48:28 ? Jun 25 16:48:39 it builds the image files and you flash them Jun 25 16:49:06 ah... all image files.. Jun 25 16:49:07 ok Jun 25 16:49:09 so good Jun 25 16:49:09 :> Jun 25 16:49:19 bye and thank you 1000 Jun 25 16:49:20 :> Jun 25 16:49:22 bye Jun 25 19:09:44 summatusmentis, pong Jun 25 19:10:42 hi all Jun 25 19:43:54 hi Jun 25 19:44:08 i tried to build image-opie-16mb Jun 25 19:44:13 with bitback Jun 25 19:44:17 NOTE: Tasks Summary: Attempted 966 tasks of which 134 didn't need to be rerun and 1 failed. Jun 25 19:44:17 ERROR: '/stuff/org.openembedded.dev/packages/mtd/mtd-utils-native_1.0.0+git.bb' failed Jun 25 19:44:21 it returned this Jun 25 19:44:27 how can i fix Jun 25 19:46:25 Zero_Chaos, hei Jun 25 19:46:30 can you help me? Jun 25 19:48:21 fausto, check the error log Jun 25 19:48:36 it should say something like see logs in blabla Jun 25 19:51:37 dcordes, where i can find logs Jun 25 19:51:59 fausto, there should be a message sayin "see logs in " Jun 25 19:52:11 somewhere where you copied the above NOTE: and ERROR: from Jun 25 19:52:14 possibly above Jun 25 19:52:53 no Jun 25 19:53:07 i haven't Jun 25 19:53:26 don't know then Jun 25 19:53:33 maybe you paste the whole of it into a pastebin Jun 25 19:53:43 if there are more errors and bad notes Jun 25 19:54:17 and 1 failed Jun 25 19:54:20 only one failed Jun 25 19:56:59 * koen suspects git being gitfm instead of git-core or a sucky ISP Jun 25 20:00:43 hi Jun 25 20:01:24 i've compiled angstrom-uclibc and it is working in my nslu2 box now, how can i test that it is all working? Jun 25 20:01:48 and are there more targets i can compile to test them against the nslu? Jun 25 20:01:56 iv compiled angstrom-minimal-image Jun 25 20:07:47 NOTE: Tasks Summary: Attempted 966 tasks of which 134 didn't need to be rerun and 1 failed. Jun 25 20:07:47 ERROR: '/stuff/org.openembedded.dev/packages/mtd/mtd-utils-native_1.0.0+git.bb' failed Jun 25 20:07:52 how can i fix Jun 25 20:07:57 someone know this error Jun 25 20:08:01 or the log file?? Jun 25 20:15:01 dcordes, how i can find the logfile Jun 25 20:15:07 of the build Jun 25 20:15:29 fausto, don't know. When I have errors it always tells me the location of the specific error log? Jun 25 20:15:41 but where Jun 25 20:15:51 Packaged contents of glibc-binary-localedata-ar-lb.iso88596 into /stuff/build/tmp/angstrom/deploy/glibc/ipk/armv5te/glibc-binary-localedata-ar-lb.iso88596_2.5-r6_armv5te.ipk Jun 25 20:15:51 NOTE: package glibc-2.5-r6: task do_package_write: completed Jun 25 20:15:51 NOTE: package glibc-2.5: completed Jun 25 20:15:51 NOTE: Tasks Summary: Attempted 967 tasks of which 967 didn't need to be rerun and 1 failed. Jun 25 20:15:51 ERROR: '/stuff/org.openembedded.dev/packages/mtd/mtd-utils-native_1.0.0+git.bb' failed Jun 25 20:15:58 fausto, don't know Jun 25 20:16:05 seems like there's no log for you Jun 25 20:16:11 fausto: bitbake mtd-utils-native Jun 25 20:16:22 and watch the output Jun 25 20:16:36 ok Jun 25 20:17:44 i have trouble with git Jun 25 20:17:49 saladino: btw, you are now running the new ARM EABI in your slug Jun 25 20:18:09 saladino: not a lot of people are doing that on armeb and uclibc :) Jun 25 20:18:09 Darth_Wader, did you solve your resolution problems? Jun 25 20:18:17 saladino: so congrats! Jun 25 20:18:58 dcordes: nope. i`ve managed to reboot my ipaq some time after u`re went to sleep.. 2.6.21 kernel made awesome breakage to it Jun 25 20:19:21 suspend and bluetooth become unusable Jun 25 20:19:42 good to hear Jun 25 20:19:44 Darth_Wader: h2200? Jun 25 20:19:48 yup Jun 25 20:20:00 MTD and touchscreen are also broken Jun 25 20:20:11 touchscreen working for me Jun 25 20:20:19 koen thanks a lot! Jun 25 20:20:20 but it became way too insensitive Jun 25 20:20:34 don`t know about mtd, my angstrom living on sd card Jun 25 20:20:39 that's 'broken' in my book :) Jun 25 20:20:48 i just hope i can help with something Jun 25 20:20:50 Darth_Wader: I have it on SD as well, but /home is on flash Jun 25 20:20:54 Darth_Wader, mine is home on sd too Jun 25 20:21:04 not home but entire angstrom :) Jun 25 20:23:43 koen the slug isn't officialy supported by angstrom Jun 25 20:23:46 what need to be done Jun 25 20:24:57 it is in my buildscripts nowadays, but we need to figure out how to distribute the images Jun 25 20:25:03 @&*$&@*$*@ intel NPE crap Jun 25 20:56:52 what is this error?? ERROR: No providers of build target perl_5.8.8.bb (for []) Jun 25 20:56:52 (it is different from the previous, i solved it) Jun 25 20:59:26 Darth_Wader, what's the menaning of No providers of build target perl_5.8.8.bb Jun 25 21:00:10 dunno Jun 25 21:00:13 did you type 'bitbake perl_5.8.8.bb' ? Jun 25 21:00:18 yes Jun 25 21:00:30 try 'bitbake perl' Jun 25 21:00:37 maybe needs update ith monotone Jun 25 21:00:47 only 'bitbake -b' takes a file as an argument Jun 25 21:01:03 uh ok Jun 25 21:01:30 it fails build always for 1 task Jun 25 21:02:00 FATAL: oe_runmake failed Jun 25 21:02:26 fails on making Jun 25 21:02:28 why?? Jun 25 21:02:43 can you try and see if there is a problem in the sources (i think) Jun 25 21:03:01 there`s somewhere would be line saying where the error log was placed Jun 25 21:03:03 ubuntu? Jun 25 21:04:11 if yes, then dpkg-reconfigure dash and see the ubuntu section of http://www.openembedded.org/oeandyourdistro Jun 25 21:04:15 http://rafb.net/p/hX9bPZ71.html Jun 25 21:04:32 the errors Jun 25 21:04:42 i'm watching at the link that you provided Jun 25 21:04:47 looks like ubuntu :) Jun 25 21:07:02 yes Jun 25 21:07:04 ubuntu :> Jun 25 21:07:14 i hate ubuntu Jun 25 21:07:20 but i must use it Jun 25 21:08:10 but the error persist!!! Jun 25 21:08:21 i followed the document steep by steep Jun 25 21:11:12 Darth_Wader, i folowed the guide but the error remains Jun 25 21:11:54 fausto: bitbake -c clean perl && bitbake perl Jun 25 21:12:06 assuming that your /bin/sh is now link to /bin/bash Jun 25 21:12:35 ah Jun 25 21:14:57 ln -s /bin/bash /bin/sh Jun 25 21:20:52 root@satin:/bin# ln -s /bin/bash sh Jun 25 21:20:53 root@satin:/bin# sh Jun 25 21:20:53 sh-3.2# Jun 25 21:20:55 why? Jun 25 21:21:28 i should have a bash shell and not an sh Jun 25 21:21:35 but i have created the symlink Jun 25 21:21:46 why it doesn't work Jun 25 21:21:47 ?? Jun 25 21:21:57 i removed dash Jun 25 21:29:04 repeat 01:11:53 < Darth_Wader> fausto: bitbake -c clean perl && bitbake perl Jun 25 21:29:11 ok Jun 25 21:29:19 working Jun 25 21:36:02 Zero_Chaos, you around? Jun 25 21:36:24 aye Jun 25 21:38:04 Zero_Chaos, after you were talking about gps yesterday, I got interested and digged out my old navilock gps mouse Jun 25 21:38:21 but I have problems testing it and wanted to ask you for help Jun 25 21:38:54 what is the beste way to find out if it is working or not? (modules are loaded and it is getting assigned to a dev) Jun 25 21:39:33 dcordes: use kismet, walk around a bit, then render with gpsmap, if it looks right, it is working Jun 25 21:42:32 Zero_Chaos, never used kismet before. Let me try... Jun 25 21:43:43 Zero_Chaos, cat /dev/ttyUSB0 is speaking chinese Jun 25 21:44:13 indeed it would be Jun 25 21:44:25 get gpsd and try xgps, that would help Jun 25 21:45:03 Zero_Chaos, I was already looking for xgps, can't find it Jun 25 21:46:57 dcordes: for the Zaurus, yeah it's not build, try on your host. Jun 25 21:47:50 Zero_Chaos, so there's metadata present? Jun 25 21:49:11 dcordes: sirfmon may do it as well Jun 25 21:52:17 looks like my location is HELL Jun 25 21:52:46 my alt is -600 km Jun 25 21:52:49 heh Jun 25 21:53:10 dcordes: I'm guessing you are either inside and/or not using a gps with a sirf star chipset ;-) Jun 25 21:53:58 Zero_Chaos, I think there is some data but obviously very weak: I put my navilock out of the window and it is only printing the (right) time Jun 25 21:55:05 Zero_Chaos, how can I find out how many satellites are found? Jun 25 21:55:18 in sirfmon Jun 25 21:55:30 dcordes: I don't know, I only used it for a minute or so. Jun 25 21:55:33 dcordes: its one of nmea messages Jun 25 21:55:48 hrw, how can I read it out ? Jun 25 21:56:30 hah just tried to touchscreen my laptop's screen Jun 25 21:57:10