**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jun 29 02:59:56 2007
Jun 29 05:31:32 <_law_> hi all
Jun 29 05:36:42 <_law_> generating locales is on the same step sind a few hours, i think there is a error...
Jun 29 05:37:58 <_law_> how can i check if anything is done?
Jun 29 05:38:07 <_law_> tmp is already 2.3 gb big
Jun 29 06:47:25 <troy_s> Anyone alive for a little help?
Jun 29 06:51:35 * hrw is alive
Jun 29 06:51:43 <hrw> someone here has prism wifi card?
Jun 29 06:52:45 <troy_s> hrw Trying to get angstrom up on a 4150 but the tar.gz trips the error "not contain a rootfs." when using Ramdisk Rescue.  Any ideas?
Jun 29 06:53:01 <hrw> no idea
Jun 29 10:44:36 <_law_> can build locales also take a day????
Jun 29 10:45:26 <_law_> on a AMD Sempron  2600+ with 1.5gb ram
Jun 29 10:47:24 <_law_> ok i?ll try GLIBC_GENERATE_LOCALES = "en_GB.UTF-8 de_DE.UTF-8"
Jun 29 10:50:44 <hrw> _law_: on my 1.8GHz athlon it was 2-4h
Jun 29 10:51:25 <_law_> ok so there something went wrong...
Jun 29 12:10:10 <vanguard> Hello all. I have only a little question. I would like to flash a SL-C1000 with angstrom. But there are two files: Angstrom-*-.jifs and Angstrom-*-.summary.jiffs. What is the diference ? And must I rename these to initrd.bin ?
Jun 29 12:12:43 <vanguard> And if so, as I do have no WLAN-card, but a 1GB sd-card, the feed should fit on this, does it ? So I can install allrequired packages from the sd-card.
Jun 29 12:13:11 <hrw> use summary one - will mount faster
Jun 29 12:13:22 <hrw> feed should fit
Jun 29 12:13:58 <vanguard> Ah, cool ! 
Jun 29 12:14:53 <vanguard> I suppose, the Angstrom-*-.tgz can be installed on sd-card as usual, does it ?
Jun 29 12:16:01 <hrw> I never did such installs
Jun 29 12:17:19 <vanguard> No probs. What is modules-2.6.20-*.tgz for ? Do I need it ?
Jun 29 12:17:38 <hrw> not need
Jun 29 12:17:52 <vanguard> And minimalist-image_*
Jun 29 12:17:54 <vanguard> ?
Jun 29 12:17:55 <hrw> it is archive with all kernel modules - usable for development testing
Jun 29 12:18:06 <hrw> it is minimal image - not needed usually
Jun 29 12:19:00 <vanguard> O.k. What about renaming ? I have to rename Angstrom-.* to initrd.bin, right ?
Jun 29 12:20:19 <hrw> yes
Jun 29 12:20:29 <hrw> zImage* to zImage.bin
Jun 29 12:21:20 <vanguard> Fine, then I do understand everything. BTW: Will someone build a *.jiff for collie ?
Jun 29 12:21:46 <vanguard> I only saw a *.tgz for collie. 
Jun 29 12:22:05 <hrw> jffs2?
Jun 29 12:22:23 <vanguard> An "initrd.bin" for collie.
Jun 29 12:22:37 <hrw> they are available
Jun 29 12:22:46 <vanguard> Are they ??? 
Jun 29 12:22:58 <vanguard> I could not find any.
Jun 29 12:23:11 <hrw> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/images/collie/20070604/
Jun 29 12:23:51 <vanguard> Yes, but the one with X11 is mising.
Jun 29 12:24:02 <hrw> it does not fit in flash
Jun 29 12:24:17 <vanguard> Ah, thats the reason. 
Jun 29 12:24:49 <vanguard> Anyway, it can be installed after flash.
Jun 29 12:26:17 <vanguard> Another question, mybe, you know it: I intend to buy a GPRS-CF-card for SL-5500 or SL-C1000. Do you know, if openmoko is supporting this hardware ?
Jun 29 12:26:27 <vanguard> Or Angstrom.....
Jun 29 12:26:52 <vanguard> This way, it would be able to use the Z as a cell phone.
Jun 29 12:28:15 <NAbyss_> vanguard: If the CF card exposes a serial port, it should work with pppd
Jun 29 12:28:49 <XorA> GPRS cards dont seem to work on 2.6 kernels :-(
Jun 29 12:28:54 <vanguard> It does, the card is a R-8000.
Jun 29 12:29:20 <XorA> RTM-8000 doesnt work on arm on 2.6 kernels
Jun 29 12:30:31 <vanguard> This is a pity. Does Angstrom for SL-5500 still use kernel 2.4 or is it 2.6 meanwhile.
Jun 29 12:30:37 <hrw> 2.6
Jun 29 12:30:46 <hrw> angstrom does not support 2.4 officially
Jun 29 12:31:00 <vanguard> O.k., so there is no chance to get it running. 
Jun 29 12:31:12 <XorA> vanguard: find the bug, fix it
Jun 29 12:31:45 <XorA> vanguard: http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=23652
Jun 29 12:31:45 <vanguard> Maybe in 5 years, when I am able to write code.
Jun 29 12:31:55 <bluelightning> vanguard: btw, one problem with most data cards is that they are not designed to receive calls when the device is suspended... so they aren't much good as phones
Jun 29 12:33:01 <vanguard> This is a pity. My hope was, to get my Z running as a phone with new openmoko.
Jun 29 12:34:13 <bluelightning> unfortunately data cards just aren't any good for that AFAICT... I have only seen add-on modules for the handspring visor that have a separate battery to support that kind of operation
Jun 29 12:34:31 <bluelightning> you'd be better off saving your money and buying a Neo1973 instead
Jun 29 12:34:39 <XorA> the card is powered off during suspend :-) really hard to receive calls :-)
Jun 29 12:34:49 <bluelightning> XorA: my point exactly...
Jun 29 12:34:52 <vanguard> Yes, I am already looking forward to it !!!
Jun 29 12:34:56 <XorA> better off saving money and buying HTC Universal
Jun 29 12:35:05 <bluelightning> XorA: noooo
Jun 29 12:35:09 <bluelightning> horrid devices
Jun 29 12:35:16 <XorA> better hardware than the neo
Jun 29 12:35:23 <XorA> if you want PDA action as well anyway
Jun 29 12:35:26 <bluelightning> ugly and unweildy though
Jun 29 12:35:44 <vanguard> There also should be an easier way, to get a cell phone running as a modem on a Z.
Jun 29 12:35:47 <bluelightning> we've had one at work for some time now
Jun 29 12:36:02 <XorA> vanguard: it is easy
Jun 29 12:36:07 <vanguard> Doing it with ppp-scripts is very user unfriendly.
Jun 29 12:36:42 <vanguard> It is a thing, I am really missing !
Jun 29 12:37:01 <XorA> ABORT BUSY ABORT 'NO CARRIER' ABORT VOICE ABORT 'NO DIALTONE'ABORT 'NO DIAL TONE' ABORT 'NO ANSWER'
Jun 29 12:37:01 <XorA> # modeminit
Jun 29 12:37:01 <XorA> '' 'AT+CGDCONT=1,"IP","general.t-mobile.uk"'
Jun 29 12:37:01 <XorA> TIMEOUT 120
Jun 29 12:37:01 <XorA> # ispnumber
Jun 29 12:37:02 <XorA> OK-AT-OK ATDT*99#
Jun 29 12:37:04 <XorA> # ispconnect
Jun 29 12:37:06 <XorA> CONNECT \d\c
Jun 29 12:37:08 <XorA> as chat script
Jun 29 12:37:20 <XorA> hide-password
Jun 29 12:37:20 <XorA> noauth
Jun 29 12:37:21 <XorA> connect "/usr/sbin/chat -v -f /etc/chatscripts/t-mobile"
Jun 29 12:37:22 <XorA> debug
Jun 29 12:37:24 <XorA> /dev/rfcomm0
Jun 29 12:37:26 <XorA> 115200
Jun 29 12:37:28 <XorA> defaultroute
Jun 29 12:37:30 <XorA> noipdefault
Jun 29 12:37:32 <XorA> usepeerdns
Jun 29 12:37:34 <XorA> user username
Jun 29 12:37:36 <XorA> remotename t-mobile
Jun 29 12:37:38 <XorA> as ppp script
Jun 29 12:37:47 <vanguard> Yeah, so it is aon my Z, but it does not work.
Jun 29 12:38:01 <XorA> works fine as that is from my Z
Jun 29 12:38:54 <vanguard> Hmm, strange. I use o2, and my script is named o2online. When I do pon o2online, nothing happens.
Jun 29 12:39:08 <XorA> pppd call o2online
Jun 29 12:39:12 <vanguard> Can you send me a copy of yours ?
Jun 29 12:39:33 <XorA> did you setup the correct rfcomm device?
Jun 29 12:39:40 <vanguard> And a copy of your /etc/rfcomm.conf ?
Jun 29 12:39:59 <vanguard> Yes, I added the MAC-address and set bind=yes.
Jun 29 12:40:05 <vanguard> Channel is 1.
Jun 29 12:40:25 <vanguard> The device is seen by the Z, as they are apiring.
Jun 29 12:40:30 <vanguard> pairing
Jun 29 12:40:49 <XorA> install picocom and attach to rfcomm and try the dialup by hand
Jun 29 12:41:03 <XorA> my phone has 4 rfcomm channels, only one of them is DUN
Jun 29 12:41:39 <vanguard> Ah, ok. Any phone should work, do they ? Mine is a Samsung D600.
Jun 29 12:42:12 <XorA> fuck knows what has happened to my bluez config, an upgrade seems to have moved/deleted all the files
Jun 29 12:42:51 <vanguard> I tried with gkdial, but this overwrote my scripts. So I edited them by hand.
Jun 29 12:44:26 <vanguard> Gkdial is not as bad as one says, but there is one thing missing: the aibility to choose, which device shall be used.
Jun 29 12:45:10 <vanguard> Gkdial is always using /dev/modem. My idea was, to set a link from dev/modem to /dev/rfcomm0
Jun 29 12:45:26 <vanguard> But I do not know, if this will make things easier.
Jun 29 12:47:21 <vanguard> BTW: I have a Z since the first time, and it is really, really great, how fast the OS and the applications have improved.
Jun 29 12:47:52 <vanguard> From zero to 100 in such a short time. This is really cool ! 
Jun 29 12:50:17 <gremlin[it]> Hi all 
Jun 29 12:50:31 <bluelightning> hi gremlin[it] 
Jun 29 12:50:36 <vanguard> hi gremlin[it] 
Jun 29 12:50:50 <bluelightning> gremlin[it]: btw are you still working on linux on the h3600?
Jun 29 12:50:58 <bluelightning> that's to say, 2.6 on the h3600
Jun 29 12:51:13 <gremlin[it]> launching a my application dove with gtk i got this error "could not open default font 'fixed'" and X exit ... how can i solve ? 
Jun 29 12:51:52 <gremlin[it]> bluelightning, about h3600 so and so ... i really have no spare time in last months ... but i will like be back my business soon ! 
Jun 29 12:52:41 <bluelightning> gremlin[it]: ok cool :) I have been following your blog on the subject and noticed there had been no updates lately, that's all
Jun 29 12:52:56 <vanguard> I am flashing now a little bit. Thank you very much for all of your help and your answers ! Now I will tst a little bit. bye all
Jun 29 12:52:58 <gremlin[it]> yes true ...
Jun 29 13:02:20 <gremlin[it]> so no one have an idea about missing 'fixed' font ??? 
Jun 29 13:02:59 <vanguard> Its me again, for very short. Does Angstrom not use altboot ?
Jun 29 13:03:18 <vanguard> Or must I only install it later.
Jun 29 13:06:11 <XorA> doesnt use it by default
Jun 29 13:07:41 <vanguard> Hmm, it is just because I wanted to install a second one on an sd-card. 
Jun 29 13:09:25 <vanguard> O.k., I see, it is not installed per default. Anyway, I can install it with ipkg.
Jun 29 13:10:40 <vanguard> My first impression is: very cool ! It is nice with the mousepointer. 
Jun 29 13:11:38 <vanguard> It seems for me, there is no difference between a normal user an root per default.
Jun 29 13:11:51 <vanguard> This is new.
Jun 29 14:21:03 <_law_> hmm now i got back a error http://rafb.net/p/cMj25k49.html
Jun 29 14:47:45 <XorA> hmmm, for small flash devices, a squashfs to boot, then use aufs to switch to SD card
Jun 29 14:48:20 <XorA> means we can squeeze more on by default and lose ipkg-link
Jun 29 14:48:23 <troy_s> Hrm... almost there.  I am now getting a Root-MFS:  No MFS server available, giving up. error on my ipaq 4150 -- ideas?
Jun 29 14:48:28 <XorA> and the system is recoverable
Jun 29 14:49:02 <troy_s> assuming it is a "root=blah" param.
Jun 29 14:51:30 <troy_s> NFS rather lol.
Jun 29 15:04:21 <troy_s> If anyone can help me out with trying to get what I suspect is a udev issue resolved, please ping me.  Thanks a million.
Jun 29 15:09:49 <dcordes> Zero_Chaos, you around? need your help
Jun 29 15:09:50 <XorA> udev is voodoo
Jun 29 15:09:55 <dcordes> hi all
Jun 29 15:10:36 <dcordes> http://www.pastebin.ca/595468
Jun 29 15:10:51 <Zero_Chaos> dcordes: sir?
Jun 29 15:11:49 <dcordes> Zero_Chaos, could you have a look at my paste?
Jun 29 15:12:04 <XorA>  install -m 0755 wesside-ng        ${D}/${sbindir}
Jun 29 15:12:11 <XorA> as message says, it doesnt exist
Jun 29 15:12:39 <dcordes> XorA, it does, and when I comment out that line, it is looking for the other sources
Jun 29 15:13:05 <XorA> dcordes: or it doensnt exist in the directory your in
Jun 29 15:13:11 <gremlin[it]> ho all 
Jun 29 15:13:13 <gremlin[it]> hi all 
Jun 29 15:13:23 <gremlin[it]> i'm using x86qemu target 
Jun 29 15:13:34 <dcordes> XorA, hm I didn't know I need to be in the dir with the sources
Jun 29 15:13:42 <Zero_Chaos> dcordes: I will make a proper aircrack-ng 1.0-dev for you.
Jun 29 15:13:51 <Zero_Chaos> dcordes: give me a day please.
Jun 29 15:14:02 <gremlin[it]> but seem every time i restart qemu i loose all i wrote on filesystem ... how i can change this behaviour ? 
Jun 29 15:14:07 <XorA> please dont call it 1.0-dev
Jun 29 15:14:16 <dcordes> Zero_Chaos, so it is rather a problem with the source?
Jun 29 15:14:21 <Zero_Chaos> XorA: why?
Jun 29 15:14:27 <XorA> if 1.0 hasnt release yet then 0.0+svnSRCDATE or something like that
Jun 29 15:14:30 <Zero_Chaos> dcordes: I'm not sure, but I will resolve it
Jun 29 15:14:37 <XorA> otherwise ipkg upgrade wont work
Jun 29 15:15:16 <Zero_Chaos> XorA: it will likely be 0.999+svnSRCDATE because 0.0 wouldn't be correct (then 0.9.1 would be an upgrade)
Jun 29 15:15:21 <Zero_Chaos> XorA: fair enough?
Jun 29 15:15:40 <XorA> Zero_Chaos: yeah, thats the way, 0.9.1+svnSRCDATE would be fine
Jun 29 15:15:41 <dcordes> cool thanks... I don't know what could be the error. I actually just copied your 0.9 bb, tried it with 0.9.1 and though I could to a try on 1.0-dev also, just fetching the branch
Jun 29 15:16:08 <XorA> Zero_Chaos: there is a policy detailing this in the oe wiki
Jun 29 15:16:34 <Zero_Chaos> XorA: the stable and the dev branches are not in directly alignment, so I would need to call it 0.999+svnSRCDATE I think.
Jun 29 15:16:50 <XorA> dcordes: try setting S = "${workdir}/unpackdirectoryname"
Jun 29 15:17:03 <XorA> Zero_Chaos: whatever you think is best
Jun 29 15:18:20 <dcordes> XorA, into the oe_compile() section?
Jun 29 15:18:44 <XorA> dcordes: no outsive all the do_* sections
Jun 29 15:19:05 <XorA> dcordes: just in case it is changing into the wrong directory by accident
Jun 29 15:19:37 <dcordes> XorA, I have no idea where it is extracting my tar
Jun 29 15:19:53 <Zero_Chaos> dcordes: relax for a bit, I'll have it for you, honest
Jun 29 15:20:07 <Zero_Chaos> dcordes: I was going to to that for me anyway ;-)
Jun 29 15:20:44 <dcordes> Zero_Chaos, I want it now now now :P
Jun 29 15:21:14 <XorA> dcordes: ls tmp/work/arm-linux*/aircrack*/*
Jun 29 15:21:19 <Zero_Chaos> dcordes: well then, look at my kismet or lorcon .bb's on the bug tracker, and learn to pull from svn
Jun 29 15:21:43 <Zero_Chaos> dcordes: and check your work directory to set a proper S=
Jun 29 15:26:59 <dcordes> XorA, there is ~/OE/build/tmp/akita/work/armv5te-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/aircrack-ng-1.0-dev-r2 after build attempt but I can't find the unpacked source there..
Jun 29 15:27:21 <Zero_Chaos> dcordes: because you don't have any unpacked source I bet.
Jun 29 15:27:33 <Zero_Chaos> dcordes: the file you are trying to download, does it even exist?
Jun 29 15:39:44 <dcordes> Zero_Chaos, take a look at my paste. It is obviously building something but do_install fails
Jun 29 15:41:13 <Zero_Chaos> dcordes: ls /home/erdinger/OE/build/tmp/akita/work/armv5te-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/aircrack-ng-1.0-dev-r2/
Jun 29 15:41:30 <dcordes> aircrack-ng-1.0-dev  image  temp
Jun 29 15:42:37 <Zero_Chaos> dcordes: remove PR=2 and I bet it works
Jun 29 15:43:19 <XorA> S = "${WORKDIR}/aircrack-ng-1.0-dev"
Jun 29 15:43:31 <Zero_Chaos> dcordes: and remove -03 from cflags
Jun 29 15:43:46 <Zero_Chaos> XorA: it should already know that based on the ${PN} and ${PV}
Jun 29 15:44:02 <Zero_Chaos> XorA: it is looking for the ${PR} at the end, which shouldn't be there anyway
Jun 29 15:45:05 <XorA> Zero_Chaos: better to just set it right
Jun 29 15:45:15 <XorA> PR="rX" is going to be neccessary when people fiddle
Jun 29 15:45:26 <XorA> anyway time to get bus
Jun 29 15:45:37 <dcordes> XorA, bye thanks for your help
Jun 29 15:48:33 <dcordes> Zero_Chaos, .bb is now http://www.pastebin.ca/595572
Jun 29 15:48:35 <dcordes> still it fails
Jun 29 15:49:10 <dcordes> Zero_Chaos, same error "/home/erdinger/OE/build/tmp/akita/staging/i686-linux/bin/install-sh: wesside-ng does not exist."
Jun 29 15:49:39 <Zero_Chaos> dcordes: do as XorA said then
Jun 29 15:50:21 <dcordes> Zero_Chaos, S = "${WORKDIR}/aircrack-ng-1.0-dev" ? where to put that inside the bb file?
Jun 29 15:51:02 <Zero_Chaos> line 9
Jun 29 15:51:15 <Zero_Chaos> before do_compile
Jun 29 15:53:26 <dcordes> same ERROR
Jun 29 15:53:26 <Zero_Chaos> dcordes: oh, you should have done "bitbake -c rebuild -b aircrack-ng_1.0-dev.bb"
Jun 29 15:53:32 <Zero_Chaos> sorry, I forgot
Jun 29 15:53:57 <dcordes> building..
Jun 29 15:54:12 <troy_s> Anyone have an idea on how to negotiate the 'cannot mount root fs' issue in Angstrom?
Jun 29 15:54:22 * Zero_Chaos never had that issue
Jun 29 15:55:15 <dcordes> Zero_Chaos, hmmm http://www.pastebin.ca/595586
Jun 29 15:55:30 <troy_s> My root is apparently pointing to the proper card slot identity, but I suspect udev isn't being loaded or something.  I have no idea how to fix that on Angstrom.
Jun 29 15:56:17 <dcordes> troy_s, are you trying to boot your rootfs from SD using altboot?
Jun 29 15:56:40 <Zero_Chaos> dcordes: I'll fix it, but not right now.  You will have to wait ;-)
Jun 29 15:56:43 <troy_s> dcordes: Using RR.  I managed to get it to the point of booting, but it is dying on that root fs issue.
Jun 29 15:57:29 <dcordes> Zero_Chaos, did you look at the paste?
Jun 29 15:57:57 <dcordes> troy_s, hm don't know. I only can tell SD boot works fine on my zaurus akita using altboot
Jun 29 15:57:59 <Zero_Chaos> dcordes: yes, and I don't know what your issue is without access to you environment or a game of 50 questions, niether of which is something I'm doing right now.
Jun 29 15:59:22 <dcordes> Zero_Chaos, ok but one question for my comrehension: it is building but can't install, right?
Jun 29 15:59:34 <Zero_Chaos> dcordes: no, it is not building
Jun 29 16:00:19 <dcordes> Zero_Chaos, but what is that line saying then: NOTE: package aircrack-ng-1.0-dev-r0: task do_compile: completed ?
Jun 29 16:01:08 <Zero_Chaos> dcordes: because make didn't error, because there was nothing to do
Jun 29 16:01:14 <Zero_Chaos> dcordes: I know, that is really annoying isn't it
Jun 29 16:01:41 <troy_s> dcordes: is altboot ram destructive?
Jun 29 16:01:51 <troy_s> dcordes: I was hoping for a plug and play style similar to RR.
Jun 29 16:03:06 <dcordes> troy_s, umm I don't really know what you're talking about but I have a "normal" flash on my device with altboot installed. Altboot is calling a boot from SD each time my device is booting. That's it
Jun 29 16:04:58 <troy_s> dcordes: Is it possible to get back to winblows ce by removing the SD?
Jun 29 16:05:27 <dcordes> troy_s, lol sorry but I never tried windows on my Zaurus :)
Jun 29 16:06:08 <dcordes> troy_s, for booting from your sd card (at least using altboot) your rootfs has to be on the first partition which in my case is ext2
Jun 29 16:06:26 <dcordes> havin winblowse on the 1st and your angstrom on any other partition won't work.
Jun 29 16:06:40 <troy_s> Yeah that's what I thought.  Hence the RR route... which is close.
Jun 29 16:06:43 <troy_s> but not quite there.
Jun 29 16:08:29 <dcordes> troy_s, what is PR route?
Jun 29 16:08:44 <Zero_Chaos> RR not PR
Jun 29 16:08:54 <dcordes> sorry what is RR route?
Jun 29 16:09:33 <dcordes> Zero_Chaos, I stopped trying building it now. otherwise I would end up smashing my poor display with kb
Jun 29 16:09:53 <troy_s> Ramdisk Rescue
Jun 29 16:11:07 <dcordes> troy_s, in your case I would backup my winblowse if it was that important (using dd or so) and just format it, create ext2 as 1st part. and extract a fresh built angstrom fs there
Jun 29 16:12:22 <troy_s> dcordes: Quite willing to do that, but there doesn't appear to be a decent tut on the process to remove the flash filesystem etc. without using the boot util.
Jun 29 16:13:11 <dcordes> troy_s, I still don't know what your device is. For me flashing is easy. The zauri have an on device flasher
Jun 29 16:13:46 <troy_s> dcordes hp 4150
Jun 29 16:20:37 <dcordes> troy_s, I don't know if that is applicable for your device but have a lookt at it http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/ipaq-h2200-series
Jun 29 16:21:23 <dcordes> NFS-over-PPP-over-Bluetooth omg
Jun 29 16:22:16 <vanguard> re
Jun 29 16:22:45 <vanguard> So, no I have tested Angstrom. Is someone interestd in feedback ?
Jun 29 16:23:14 <dcordes> vanguard, what's your machine?
Jun 29 16:23:23 <vanguard> SL-C1000
Jun 29 16:23:29 <dcordes> cool
Jun 29 16:23:39 <dcordes> same here. So what was your impression?
Jun 29 16:23:42 <vanguard> And also SL-5500
Jun 29 16:24:04 <vanguard> Well, it looks cool. But I had a lot of problems.
Jun 29 16:24:40 <vanguard> And not everything, I wanted to do, was running.
Jun 29 16:24:55 <dcordes> vanguard, what did you try?
Jun 29 16:24:58 <vanguard> Installation was o.k. into ROM.
Jun 29 16:25:29 <vanguard> Then, after reboot I missed altboot, as I wanted to install into sd-card.
Jun 29 16:26:03 <vanguard> I manually installed altboot, which I found not in the feed, but in the package-browser.
Jun 29 16:26:22 <dcordes> vanguard, for me ipkg install altboot worked.
Jun 29 16:26:23 <vanguard> O.k., this went fine.
Jun 29 16:26:35 <dcordes> but htat was differnet build different time
Jun 29 16:26:48 <vanguard> But, then appeared the probrlems.
Jun 29 16:26:57 <dcordes> namely?
Jun 29 16:27:06 <vanguard> My sd-card was not recognized !
Jun 29 16:27:31 <vanguard> It was recognized, but said to be filesystem checked. 
Jun 29 16:27:37 <dcordes> vanguard, I guess you had no ext2 as first partition with the rootfs in it.
Jun 29 16:27:42 <dcordes> :-)
Jun 29 16:27:47 <vanguard> I had !
Jun 29 16:27:54 <dcordes> strange
Jun 29 16:28:09 <dcordes> so you stuck to flash?
Jun 29 16:28:29 <vanguard> O.k., then, I was not stupid, I tried to format he card new.
Jun 29 16:28:46 <dcordes> good
Jun 29 16:29:17 <vanguard> No way, it was not recognized. I got no way, to get this card running with angstrom, although it is running with openzaurus.
Jun 29 16:29:40 <vanguard> Even fdisk did not work.
Jun 29 16:30:04 <dcordes> SD cards have their own life...
Jun 29 16:30:16 <dcordes> only problems
Jun 29 16:30:25 <vanguard> Yes, but it ran before.
Jun 29 16:30:41 <dcordes> vanguard, did you try making the whole card an ext2?
Jun 29 16:30:43 <Kevin`> sd cards are cheap and replacable, abuse them
Jun 29 16:30:53 <vanguard> Maybe it is too big for angstrom ? It is 1GB.
Jun 29 16:31:18 <dcordes> how can a partition be too big for a system?
Jun 29 16:31:34 <vanguard> Kevin`: It is running with the old GPE and/or OPIE-images.
Jun 29 16:31:40 <Kevin`> i'm using SD on an sl-c3200 with no proglems (similar to 1000 right?)
Jun 29 16:31:52 <dcordes> Kevin`, yep same here with c1000
Jun 29 16:31:59 <vanguard> Kevin`: Usiong angstrom ?
Jun 29 16:32:06 <thesing> vanguard: what zaurus do you speak of?
Jun 29 16:32:11 <vanguard> SL-C1000
Jun 29 16:32:26 <Kevin`> vanguard actually i'm using a kernel from openembedded of several months ago with debian, heh
Jun 29 16:32:34 <dcordes> thesing, how does your SD's part. table look?
Jun 29 16:32:41 <dcordes> sorry Kevin` 
Jun 29 16:33:14 <thesing> of which card?
Jun 29 16:33:19 <vanguard> Kevin`: Yes, Debian is another fine distribution. There are images for Z.
Jun 29 16:33:23 <dcordes> thesing, sorry that was vor Kevin` 
Jun 29 16:33:48 <thesing> no problem
Jun 29 16:34:40 <Kevin`> the only problem I've had with debian is I can't figure out how to compile the gpe/angstrom(if it uses one..) X server. I don't use X much but it's still annoying :)
Jun 29 16:34:44 <Kevin`> using etch
Jun 29 16:35:20 <Kevin`> if you have any help with THAT i'd be most greatful
Jun 29 16:35:25 <Kevin`> should probably update the kernel too
Jun 29 16:37:49 <vanguard> Kevin`: Are you running Debian on the Zaurus ?
Jun 29 16:38:13 <Kevin`> vanguard yes, debian 4.0 for arm, directly (except for the kernel)
Jun 29 16:38:43 <vanguard> Cool ! Is it faster than Angstrom or OE ?
Jun 29 16:39:27 <Kevin`> *shrug*, I use it because of the infinite repository of standard linux tools. once I get X and firefox working (which I have been lazy about), i'll tell you how speed fares
Jun 29 16:39:33 <Kevin`> for the moment it's rather fast, of course :)
Jun 29 16:39:42 <Kevin`> use it for irc, ssh, kismet, whatever
Jun 29 16:40:21 <vanguard> Yes, that sounds cool. 
Jun 29 16:40:56 <Kevin`> for PIM, I use nano :)
Jun 29 16:41:18 <Kevin`> for 'syncing' I use scp with linux server
Jun 29 16:41:29 <Kevin`> not the kind of stuff most people would use, lol
Jun 29 16:41:53 <vanguard> Most people use multisync, I suppose.
Jun 29 16:43:32 <vanguard> How did you get Debian on the Z ?
Jun 29 16:44:20 <Kevin`> I bootstrapped it from qemu (because cdebootstrap cross-architecture is a pain) and installed it with tar
Jun 29 16:44:21 <dcordes> are there debian repositories for arm ^^?
Jun 29 16:44:26 <Kevin`> of course.
Jun 29 16:44:33 <vanguard> Yes, there are.
Jun 29 16:45:15 <vanguard> There is a Debian-site for Z.
Jun 29 16:45:25 <Kevin`> ya, that's old though I think
Jun 29 16:45:38 <vanguard> With some images, but rather old.
Jun 29 16:45:47 <dcordes> vanguard, Kevin` you shouldn't have told me...
Jun 29 16:45:57 <vanguard> Anyway, an apt-get dist-upgrade should do the trick.
Jun 29 16:46:21 <Kevin`> I think those images are made for chroot or something though, right?
Jun 29 16:46:26 <dcordes> are there any prepared debian fs with X11 for the Z? 
Jun 29 16:46:36 <vanguard> No, they aren`t.
Jun 29 16:46:45 <vanguard> Yes, dcordes 
Jun 29 16:47:04 <dcordes> vanguard, where can I find such?
Jun 29 16:47:18 <vanguard> http://people.debian.org/~mdz/zaurus/
Jun 29 16:47:42 <dcordes> that all sounds like a lot of fiddling and fun :)
Jun 29 16:47:56 <vanguard> It is for SL-5500, but I think, you will get it running with SL-C1000, too.
Jun 29 16:48:23 <Kevin`> I wonder if he has a package just for the x server there?
Jun 29 16:48:37 <dcordes> vanguard, so if that works you have a "normal" debian system which you can update from the official debian arm repos?
Jun 29 16:48:52 <vanguard> Yes, so it is been described.
Jun 29 16:49:31 <vanguard> As I understood, it is using the arm-port of Debian.
Jun 29 16:54:34 <vanguard_> re
Jun 29 16:56:45 <vanguard> dcordes: Did you read my last text ?
Jun 29 16:57:00 <dcordes> vanguard, yeo
Jun 29 16:57:41 <vanguard> I had a kernel panic on my notebook while inserting a pcmcia-card, sorry. 
Jun 29 17:00:00 <vanguard> So, I never tried to install Debian on my SL-C1000 yet, as I was looking forward to angstrom. And I suppose, the origininal kernel might not run.
Jun 29 17:08:40 <vanguard> I think, the problem with the sd-card is a bug in angstrom.
Jun 29 17:09:13 <vanguard> Might be in the kernel itself.
Jun 29 17:22:00 <dnix> hi all
Jun 29 17:23:10 <dnix> somebody know if I can install angstrom on a h6365?
Jun 29 17:23:25 <dnix> I can also use my device to test and give feedbacks
Jun 29 17:24:37 <dcordes> vanguard, well I can only repeat that my system works fine booting from SD using altboot, started from internal flash. The card is a super market 2gb with one ext2 only
Jun 29 17:25:37 <vanguard> Do you run angstrom ?
Jun 29 17:26:35 <dnix> not yet
Jun 29 17:26:55 <vanguard> dnix: Sry, I meant dcordes :)
Jun 29 17:27:03 <dnix> ;)
Jun 29 17:28:45 <vanguard> And if angstrom, which kernel ? There are two different kernels in the repository.
Jun 29 17:29:15 <Kevin`> what kernel versions is angstrom currently using?
Jun 29 17:29:39 <Zero_Chaos> 2.6.21.something
Jun 29 17:29:57 <Kevin`> yep, should update..
Jun 29 17:29:59 <vanguard> It is 2.6.20, but there are two files. One is zImage0603***** , and the other zImage0605****
Jun 29 17:30:00 <Kevin`> (me)
Jun 29 17:31:38 <dcordes> vanguard, just take a later one or build your own
Jun 29 17:32:07 <dcordes> I would offer my akita builds if I didn't have removed them few days ago
Jun 29 17:32:25 <vanguard> I will flash new. Maybe something crashed during the flash.
Jun 29 17:34:25 <vanguard> Then I will try with some other (smaller) sd-card.
Jun 29 17:34:39 <vanguard> I own a 256MB-card.
Jun 29 17:37:28 <dnix> so, nobody know if the hp h6300 could work with angstrom?
Jun 29 17:38:40 <vanguard> dnix: Sry, I only own SL-C1000 and SL-5500
Jun 29 17:39:11 <dcordes> dnix, as there are pre-compiled images I guess it should work... http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/images/h6300/
Jun 29 17:39:27 <dnix> yes!
Jun 29 17:39:45 <dcordes> dnix, few days ago somebody came here who was using it I think. check the logs
Jun 29 17:39:46 <dnix> but I was searching on angstrom site and there is no an howto install it
Jun 29 17:40:04 <dcordes> dnix, afaik there is only a howto for the h2200 devices
Jun 29 17:40:15 <dcordes> any ipaq people here? :)
Jun 29 17:40:16 <dnix> ok, that could be compatible...
Jun 29 17:40:31 <dnix> I think ipaq was not a good choice...
Jun 29 17:41:19 <dcordes> you have 640x480 and a quick cpu
Jun 29 17:41:24 <dcordes> what you want more?
Jun 29 17:41:32 <dnix> no, a 320x240!
Jun 29 17:41:39 <dnix> and a very slow cpu!
Jun 29 17:41:42 <dnix> :'(
Jun 29 17:41:56 <dcordes> ohh
Jun 29 17:42:46 <vanguard> Better than Loox or any other WinCE-only-device !
Jun 29 17:43:08 <dnix> http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HpIpaqH6315
Jun 29 17:43:16 <dnix> ok, that's true :)
Jun 29 17:47:13 <dcordes> dnix, got your device confused with 4700
Jun 29 17:50:57 <dnix> nono!
Jun 29 17:51:08 <dnix> ops sorry, yes ;)
Jun 29 19:20:35 <dcordes> Zero_Chaos, what's the status? any success yet?
Jun 29 19:21:08 <Zero_Chaos> dcordes: I'm very mad, and no one in OE answered me how to figure out why OE doesn't pass $CC in properly
Jun 29 19:21:53 <dcordes> Zero_Chaos, I see that's why I'm asking. Got so silent in OE. Well can't you just fix that in the makefile?
Jun 29 19:22:12 <Zero_Chaos> yes, but I'm not really a fan of ugly hacks
Jun 29 19:22:39 <Zero_Chaos> OE should be doing it's job but for some reason it isn't...
Jun 29 19:23:25 <dcordes> pitty that XorA|gone's not around
Jun 29 19:23:31 <dcordes> I bet he could/would help
Jun 29 19:25:42 <dcordes> Zero_Chaos, ..why would it be ugly to fix the problems in the makefile? If I got koen right the problem is rooted there
Jun 29 19:26:17 <thesing> Zero_Chaos: if the build fails look at the logs.
Jun 29 19:26:38 <thesing> esp. at run-compile.sh
Jun 29 19:27:03 <XorA|gone> dcordes: who says Im not
Jun 29 19:27:16 <thesing> (set BBINCLUDELOGS = "yes" in local.conf)
Jun 29 19:27:44 <thesing> <<<<                   
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Jun 29 19:28:24 <Zero_Chaos> well if you all want to help, the problem is appears to be that OE isn't passing ${CC} properly to make.  and I don't know why
Jun 29 19:28:53 <Zero_Chaos> can someone at least tell me how to check if I'm right?
Jun 29 19:29:25 <thesing> I just did.
Jun 29 19:29:25 * XorA|gone needs a .bb to play with
Jun 29 19:29:42 <Zero_Chaos> XorA|gone: yes sir, one moment
Jun 29 19:30:45 <XorA|gone> beware I is currently playing with lego
Jun 29 19:32:22 <Zero_Chaos> http://rafb.net/p/kSh8Y843.html
Jun 29 19:33:31 <Zero_Chaos> XorA|gone: if you check packages/aircrack/aircrack-ng_0.9.bb you will see that the Makefile there also explicitly defines CC=gcc but CC="${CC}" overrides it, but here, it doesn't and I have NO FSCKING CLUE why.
Jun 29 19:36:33 <vanguard> re
Jun 29 19:37:22 <vanguard> o.k., I have tested now very well ! It is definately the kernel, which is not compatible with my sd-card ! So it could be a bug.
Jun 29 19:37:45 <Zero_Chaos> dcordes: can you build linux-rp_2.6.21?
Jun 29 19:37:57 <XorA|gone> Zero_Chaos: DEPENDS = "openssl"
Jun 29 19:38:03 <vanguard> It seems, the latest kernel is not compatible with some sd-cards. 
Jun 29 19:38:30 <vanguard> And it seems, sd-cards differ.
Jun 29 19:38:42 <Zero_Chaos> XorA|gone: that has nothing to do with why it uses my local gcc, I know about openssl but that is a much simpler issue.
Jun 29 19:39:45 <dcordes> Zero_Chaos, you mean like bitbake linux-rp_2.6.21?
Jun 29 19:40:17 <Zero_Chaos> dcordes: for akita and angstrom "bitbake -c rebuild virtual/kernel" should do it, as long as you updated your mtn repo
Jun 29 19:40:38 <XorA|gone> 404 on aircrack-ng 0.9
Jun 29 19:40:47 <XorA|gone> Zero_Chaos: just listing probs as I hit them
Jun 29 19:40:51 <Zero_Chaos> XorA|gone: bull
Jun 29 19:40:55 <Zero_Chaos> XorA|gone: it's you
Jun 29 19:41:42 <dcordes> can't mtn pull
Jun 29 19:41:48 <Zero_Chaos> XorA|gone: shit, it's not you
Jun 29 19:42:00 <dcordes> huh?
Jun 29 19:42:06 <Zero_Chaos> XorA|gone: rename the .bb to aircrack-ng_0.9.1.bb ;-)
Jun 29 19:42:11 <Zero_Chaos> dcordes: why not?
Jun 29 19:42:31 <dcordes> impatience
Jun 29 19:42:51 <Zero_Chaos> dcordes: that is not an acceptable answer.
Jun 29 19:43:44 <dcordes> building
Jun 29 19:43:53 <dcordes> Zero_Chaos, why do you want me to?
Jun 29 19:44:21 <Zero_Chaos> dcordes: because I am wonder if linux-rp is broken of if it's me.
Jun 29 19:44:28 <dcordes> ok
Jun 29 19:44:43 <XorA|gone> Zero_Chaos: its obvious, do_compile () { no oe_compile () {
Jun 29 19:45:01 <Zero_Chaos> XorA|gone: huh what?
Jun 29 19:46:00 <Zero_Chaos> XorA|gone: so why does it work for aircrack-ng 0.9? and was commit none the less...
Jun 29 19:47:35 <dcordes> Zero_Chaos, NOTE: Task failed: Error: /home/erdinger/OE/org.openembedded.dev/packages/linux/linux-rp-2.6.21/./sharpsl-rc-r1.patch not found.
Jun 29 19:47:46 <Zero_Chaos> dcordes: thanks, so it isn't me :-)
Jun 29 19:49:19 <dcordes> XorA|gone, for me changing oe_compile to do_compile does not make a difference
Jun 29 19:49:35 <XorA|gone> dcordes: at least the line is executed now :-)
Jun 29 19:49:42 <Zero_Chaos> XorA|gone: I sadly concur with dcordes 
Jun 29 19:50:01 <Zero_Chaos> XorA|gone: that is an improvement :-) but why doesn't it work ? :-)
Jun 29 19:50:26 <dcordes> Zero_Chaos, what kind of error do you get now?
Jun 29 19:50:41 <Zero_Chaos> dcordes: same
Jun 29 19:51:23 <dcordes>  Architecture did not match (40 to 3) eh?
Jun 29 19:51:36 <Zero_Chaos> yeah
Jun 29 19:51:58 <dcordes> question is what did you guys change between 0.9.1 and 1.0-dev. I already bugged ASPj about that and he said there are propably some changes
Jun 29 19:52:20 <dcordes> which is some kind of vague
Jun 29 19:52:41 <Zero_Chaos> dcordes: I dunno what would cause this :-(
Jun 29 19:52:46 <XorA|gone> 0.9.1 does CC=gcc in main Makefile, 1.0-dev does it in common.mak which is included
Jun 29 19:52:55 <XorA|gone> Ill bet overrides dont work in includes
Jun 29 19:53:13 <Zero_Chaos> XorA|gone: you think that's it? that is a bug in bitbake then, no?
Jun 29 19:53:31 <XorA|gone> no
Jun 29 19:53:35 <XorA|gone> a feature of make
Jun 29 19:53:45 <XorA|gone> and aircrack-ng is just plain wrong
Jun 29 19:53:55 <Zero_Chaos> I know, shouldn't set it at all
Jun 29 19:53:58 <XorA|gone> it in fact only runs oe_runmake with no arguments
Jun 29 19:54:14 <Zero_Chaos> XorA|gone: odd that it works though :-)
Jun 29 19:54:31 <XorA|gone> Zero_Chaos: no odd, oe_runmake already does CC=${CC}
Jun 29 19:54:50 <Zero_Chaos> so I don't even need to add all that crap?
Jun 29 19:54:54 <XorA|gone> nope
Jun 29 19:55:02 <Zero_Chaos> well that's nice to know
Jun 29 19:55:11 <XorA|gone> just remove oe_compile from aircrack-ng_0.9.X and it will work fine
Jun 29 19:55:34 <Zero_Chaos> XorA|gone: it already worked fine, that line just wasn't parsed ;-)
Jun 29 19:56:20 <dcordes> Zero_Chaos, XorA|gone why was it commited when it has useless crap in it?
Jun 29 19:57:24 <Zero_Chaos> dcordes: I guess someone didn't notice
Jun 29 19:57:26 <XorA|gone> oe_compile do_compile its hard sometimes to see the difference
Jun 29 19:57:44 <dcordes> erm Zero_Chaos did you take a look at 1.0's makefile?
Jun 29 19:57:45 <XorA|gone> the default do_compile() is just a call to oe_runmake
Jun 29 19:57:55 <dcordes> it is a bit small in comarpision to the one of 0.9.1
Jun 29 19:57:59 <Zero_Chaos> dcordes: working on it
Jun 29 19:58:29 <dcordes> 0.9.1 exactly 5x  bigger
Jun 29 19:59:42 <Zero_Chaos> dcordes: 1.0 has a recursive make, check makefiles in src src/osdep and test
Jun 29 20:01:58 * dcordes bbiab
Jun 29 20:03:06 <XorA|gone> export TOOL_PREFIX = "${HOST_SYS}-"
Jun 29 20:03:10 <XorA|gone> instead of do_compile
Jun 29 20:08:11 <dcordes> XorA|gone, NOTE: build 200706292206: completed
Jun 29 20:08:12 <Zero_Chaos> you mean just add it to the top? or add it right after oe_runmake?
Jun 29 20:08:17 <dcordes> ;)
Jun 29 20:08:20 <dcordes> thanks XorA|gone 
Jun 29 20:08:51 <XorA|gone> Zero_Chaos: remove do_compile totally
Jun 29 20:09:08 <Zero_Chaos> yeah, I just figured that out do the miserably failed test ;-)
Jun 29 20:09:24 <Zero_Chaos> hmm, no love
Jun 29 20:11:23 <Zero_Chaos> dcordes: pastebin your .bb
Jun 29 20:11:32 <dcordes> Zero_Chaos, just a second
Jun 29 20:11:47 <XorA|gone> NOTE: package aircrack-ng-0.9.9.9+svn20070629: completed
Jun 29 20:11:52 <XorA|gone> need one patch to Makefile as well
Jun 29 20:12:19 <Zero_Chaos> XorA|gone: why?
Jun 29 20:12:37 <XorA|gone> $(LDFLAGS) is not referenced anywhere in that Makefile
Jun 29 20:12:45 <XorA|gone> so linking fails
Jun 29 20:13:19 <Zero_Chaos> I saw strip fail, i didn't see linking fail
Jun 29 20:14:01 <XorA|gone> make strip shouldnt be run
Jun 29 20:14:15 <Zero_Chaos> I know. but it was :-(
Jun 29 20:14:27 <Zero_Chaos> XorA|gone: want to post yours?
Jun 29 20:14:40 <XorA|gone> Zero_Chaos: gimme a sec to clean it all up
Jun 29 20:14:44 <Zero_Chaos> k
Jun 29 20:16:03 <dcordes> the attempt to clean up my one made it unbuildable
Jun 29 20:16:09 <Zero_Chaos> heh
Jun 29 20:16:20 <dcordes> I guess it's better when XorA|gone will commit his one
Jun 29 20:16:58 <dcordes> Zero_Chaos, http://www.pastebin.ca/596131
Jun 29 20:17:05 <dcordes> that builds but I don't think it is that nice
Jun 29 20:17:47 <Zero_Chaos> no, that is very not nice
Jun 29 20:17:59 <dcordes> well it works :)
Jun 29 20:18:07 <Zero_Chaos> very very not nice
Jun 29 20:18:26 <dcordes> ^^
Jun 29 20:18:28 * dcordes ducks
Jun 29 20:18:35 * Zero_Chaos swings high
Jun 29 20:18:37 <Zero_Chaos> damnit!
Jun 29 20:21:48 <XorA|gone> mtn pull
Jun 29 20:22:15 <dcordes> alright, thanks sir
Jun 29 20:24:11 <Zero_Chaos> XorA|gone: oh god please don't name it that
Jun 29 20:24:16 <Zero_Chaos> XorA|gone: that is not the main svn
Jun 29 20:25:05 <Zero_Chaos> XorA|gone: and in about five minutes your commit is going to fail on do_patch
Jun 29 20:25:17 <dcordes> huh?
Jun 29 20:25:23 <XorA|gone> heh heh, gimme a sec Ill check that it
Jun 29 20:25:25 <dcordes> it built for me
Jun 29 20:25:33 <Zero_Chaos> dcordes: I'm going to apply his patch to the svn ;-)
Jun 29 20:25:56 <Zero_Chaos> XorA|gone: and you didn't commit the patch... at least I didn't get it
Jun 29 20:26:04 <XorA|gone> now if you had told me you had svn access
Jun 29 20:26:27 <XorA|gone> -LIBSSL         = -lssl -lcrypto
Jun 29 20:26:27 <XorA|gone> +LIBSSL         = -lssl -lcrypto $(LDFLAGS)
Jun 29 20:27:34 <koen> PV = "0.9.99+svn${SRCDATE}"
Jun 29 20:27:41 <koen> is that actually correct?
Jun 29 20:27:49 <XorA|gone> koen: yes
Jun 29 20:27:59 <Zero_Chaos> 0.9.9.9 actually, but sure, why not
Jun 29 20:28:13 <Zero_Chaos> it's 1.0-dev but we have to give it a better name so update/upgrade works
Jun 29 20:31:15 <Zero_Chaos> XorA|gone: can you please drop 0.7, mv aircrack-ng_0.9.bb to aircrack-ng_0.9.1.bb and then drop your patch and rename aircrack-ng_svn.bb to anything but that name?
Jun 29 20:31:18 <Zero_Chaos> :-)
Jun 29 20:31:32 * XorA|gone thinks svn write access should be removed from whoever wrote those makefiles
Jun 29 20:31:44 <Zero_Chaos> XorA|gone: yeah yeah, it wasn't me
Jun 29 20:31:48 <XorA|gone> already moved 0.9->0.9.1
Jun 29 20:31:50 <Zero_Chaos> XorA|gone: but I commited your fix
Jun 29 20:32:02 <Zero_Chaos> XorA|gone: remove 0.7 too please
Jun 29 20:32:13 <koen> what's wrong with 'aircrack-ng_svn.bb'?
Jun 29 20:32:26 <koen> is it aircrack-xp now?
Jun 29 20:32:31 <koen> aircrack-me?
Jun 29 20:32:33 <Zero_Chaos> koen: it is not the main svn, it's a branch, it is not proper
Jun 29 20:32:38 <koen> free-aircrack?
Jun 29 20:32:42 <koen> open-aircrack?
Jun 29 20:32:47 <koen> net-aircrack?
Jun 29 20:32:59 <Zero_Chaos> koen: you are cool, we all no it, now bother someone else
Jun 29 20:33:05 <Zero_Chaos> s/no/know
Jun 29 20:35:38 <Zero_Chaos> XorA|gone: still hanging around buddy?
Jun 29 20:35:46 <XorA|gone> yup
Jun 29 20:36:41 <Zero_Chaos> XorA|gone: you drop aircrack-ng_0.7.bb, then remove your patch from aircrack-ng_svn and name it something else please?
Jun 29 20:37:58 <XorA|gone> aircrack-ng_1.0-svn.bb
Jun 29 20:38:29 <Zero_Chaos> XorA|gone: that's fine for now
Jun 29 20:38:51 <Zero_Chaos> I was thinking aircrack-ng_1.0-dev-svn but that seemed a little much
Jun 29 20:39:16 <Zero_Chaos> can you add a preferred -1 since this is not an official release?
Jun 29 20:39:31 <Zero_Chaos> I don't want the svn of the devel release to override the stable
Jun 29 20:39:40 <Zero_Chaos> "It would be bad" (TM)
Jun 29 20:42:09 <XorA|gone> has all been synced to wolfson mirror as I lost connectivity with oe.org
Jun 29 20:42:21 <XorA|gone> so it will sync itself in about 5 mins
Jun 29 20:42:50 <Zero_Chaos> okay, you set preferred -1 for me on that 1.0 build?
Jun 29 20:44:07 <XorA|gone> yeah
Jun 29 20:44:18 <Zero_Chaos> great, thanks
Jun 29 20:44:24 * XorA|gone goes back to lego
Jun 29 20:44:39 <Zero_Chaos> XorA|gone: i will continue polishing up my other stuff and send it your way to check out.
Jun 29 20:44:47 <Zero_Chaos> XorA|gone: enjoy your legos
Jun 29 20:46:20 * XorA|gone has just found a banned shooting lego cannon
Jun 29 20:47:10 <Zero_Chaos> wow, exciting
Jun 29 20:47:18 <Zero_Chaos> XorA|gone: you are a big kid, aren't you?
Jun 29 20:47:24 * Zero_Chaos is a big kid if wifi is mentioned
Jun 29 20:49:43 <XorA|gone> its what I do to releive stress caused by bake makefiles :-)
Jun 29 20:49:51 <XorA|gone> s/bake/bad/
Jun 29 20:50:01 <dcordes> XorA|gone, the little grey ones where you can put in round 1x1 bricks and pull the small trigger on the back of it to make it shoot?
Jun 29 20:51:47 <thesing> XorA|gone: When I'll have children I'll have an excuse to buy lego again ;)
Jun 29 20:52:05 <XorA|gone> dcordes: yup
Jun 29 20:53:03 * XorA|gone isnt having childred, they will steal my lego
Jun 29 20:54:05 <koen> XorA|gone: guess where I got my lego from :)
Jun 29 20:55:14 <XorA|gone> my dad gave away a few hundred pounds worth of my lego :-(
Jun 29 20:56:36 <koen> my little nephews had a 'race' with some miniature cars
Jun 29 20:57:09 <koen> a miniature carwreck looks the same as a big one
Jun 29 21:05:05 <XorA|gone> how can I lack blue and yellow spacemen :-(
Jun 29 21:21:08 <dcordes> XorA|gone, argh! http://www.pastebin.ca/596303 can't build :/
Jun 29 21:21:32 <koen> dcordes: mtn pull
Jun 29 21:24:42 <XorA|gone> yuss, a lego jetski is mine
Jun 29 21:25:17 * XorA|gone wonders why his lego collection is completely devoid of torches
Jun 29 21:26:09 <dcordes> XorA|gone, do you have lego mindstorms things?
Jun 29 21:27:01 <XorA|gone> dcordes: no, Im not rich enough
Jun 29 21:27:25 * XorA|gone needs a rxt brick though to run DCC on his trainset
Jun 29 21:27:44 <dcordes> XorA|gone, I sold my rcx
Jun 29 21:27:55 <dcordes> unfortuneately... when it was gone I had the best ideas
Jun 29 21:28:23 <dcordes> best thing ever was my mobile flame thrower based on a hair spray can
Jun 29 21:31:33 <dcordes> I never did much coding with it. Was too lazy so I only had remote controlled things
Jun 29 21:39:53 <hrw> bye
Jun 29 21:41:05 <dcordes> XorA|gone, I can't find the ipk.. where did they go again?
Jun 29 21:42:43 <Zero_Chaos> dcordes: which ipk?
Jun 29 21:46:57 <XorA|gone> tmp/deploy/ipk
Jun 29 21:47:12 <Zero_Chaos> tmp/deploy/glibc/ipk no?
Jun 29 21:47:20 <dcordes> Zero_Chaos, aircrack-ng_svn
Jun 29 21:48:14 <Zero_Chaos> dcordes: remember, it will be called aircrack-ng-0.9.99+svn${SRCDATE}.ipk (or some such)
Jun 29 21:49:02 <dcordes> there's only 0.9.1 in armv5te
Jun 29 21:51:12 <Zero_Chaos> dcordes: that is odd
Jun 29 21:51:29 <thesing> dcordes: you must build it with 'bitbake -b /path/to/package/package.bb' manually.
Jun 29 21:51:34 <dcordes> I will remove the 1.0-svn recipe and pull again
Jun 29 21:51:44 <Zero_Chaos> indeed
Jun 29 21:51:45 <thesing> dcordes: because it has default preference of -1
Jun 29 21:51:52 <dcordes> thesing, that's what I just tried and it gave me nice errors
Jun 29 21:51:57 <dcordes> I see
Jun 29 21:52:01 <Zero_Chaos> is there a way to specify in a depend that I want that version?
Jun 29 21:52:09 <Zero_Chaos> so I can add it to my images?
Jun 29 21:52:42 <thesing> just add PREFERRED_VERSION_aircrack-ng = "bla" to your local.conf
Jun 29 21:53:18 <Zero_Chaos> ahh, thanks :-)
Jun 29 21:53:56 <dcordes> it doesn't refetch the .bb file after removing it :(
Jun 29 21:54:04 <Zero_Chaos> should
Jun 29 21:54:11 <Zero_Chaos> mtn revert .
Jun 29 21:54:12 <dcordes> mtn revert --missing
Jun 29 21:54:17 <Zero_Chaos> from the org.oe.dev directory
Jun 29 21:54:19 <dcordes> already got it was to quick again ^^
Jun 29 21:54:24 <Zero_Chaos> ;-)
Jun 29 21:54:26 <Zero_Chaos> good man
Jun 29 21:57:32 <dcordes> ouch error
Jun 29 21:57:57 <dcordes> http://www.pastebin.ca/596360
Jun 29 21:59:19 <Zero_Chaos> dcordes: look at the .bb file, does it DEPEND=openssl?
Jun 29 21:59:47 <dcordes> DEPENDS = "openssl"
Jun 29 22:00:13 <Zero_Chaos> you need to build openssl first, for some reason when you have -c in there it doesn't do depends
Jun 29 22:00:58 <dcordes> ok
Jun 29 22:15:15 <CoreDump|home> hi
Jun 29 22:15:48 <dcordes> hi CoreDump|home 
Jun 29 22:36:12 * XorA|gone puts lego away before ending up face down in it
Jun 29 22:36:48 <Zero_Chaos> XorA|gone: drunken legoing?
Jun 29 22:37:28 <XorA|gone> just exhausted with too much coding
Jun 29 22:42:57 * XorA|gone goes to eat rice pudding
Jun 29 22:47:34 <dcordes> milk rice!
Jun 29 22:58:35 <dcordes> ^^
Jun 29 23:20:11 <Zero_Chaos> what is the terminal emulator in angstrom-x11-image?
Jun 29 23:21:45 <dcordes> Zero_Chaos, gpe-terminal I guess
Jun 29 23:24:02 <Darth_Wader> in x11-image found on angstrom-distribution.org terminal was rxvt 
Jun 29 23:24:45 <Zero_Chaos> dcordes: what does it set for TERMINAL?
Jun 29 23:25:29 <Zero_Chaos> Darth_Wader: same question
Jun 29 23:26:16 <Darth_Wader> can`t answer for now due to overall breakage of my ipaq angstrom 
Jun 29 23:26:54 <dcordes> Zero_Chaos, I don't understand your question.
Jun 29 23:26:59 <Zero_Chaos> kismet complains that my terminal type cannot handle color, and I think it is because it is set to vt100
Jun 29 23:27:05 <Zero_Chaos> dcordes: echo $TERMINAL
Jun 29 23:27:46 * dcordes got backlit
Jun 29 23:28:01 <Zero_Chaos> dcordes: it says your terminal type is backlit?
Jun 29 23:28:50 <dcordes> it says hardware-button-reboot-me because I won't turn the display backlight back on 
Jun 29 23:29:38 <Zero_Chaos> ahh
Jun 29 23:29:41 <Zero_Chaos> I hate that
Jun 29 23:29:45 <Zero_Chaos> happened to me once.
Jun 29 23:29:49 <dcordes> once??
Jun 29 23:29:57 <dcordes> you are talking about akita don't you?
Jun 29 23:30:02 <Zero_Chaos> yeah, I do a lot more dev work than actual work :-)
Jun 29 23:30:19 <dcordes> ah ok... I'm heavily using the akita
Jun 29 23:30:22 <dcordes> so I get the everyday
Jun 29 23:30:25 <dcordes> almost
Jun 29 23:32:27 <dcordes> s/the/that
Jun 29 23:32:36 <dcordes> Zero_Chaos, echo $TERMINAL says nothing
Jun 29 23:32:40 <dcordes> both as normal user and root
Jun 29 23:35:46 <Zero_Chaos> echo $TERM
Jun 30 00:00:27 <dcordes> Zero_Chaos, was away getting some strong german beers
Jun 30 00:01:00 <dcordes> echo $TERM > rxvt
Jun 30 02:45:50 <Zero_Chaos> well if anyone is around, how can I make my aircrack-ng preferred version 0.9.99+svn${SRCDATE} ? it doesn't seem to like that as I put it?
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