**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jul 19 02:59:58 2007 Jul 19 03:37:21 hi anyone know how to configure wlan0 ? Jul 19 04:08:36 altboot doesnt seem to load my sd card ? Jul 19 04:09:48 ah its working now Jul 19 04:17:48 hmm ive installed the x11.tar.gz to sd but boot from sd isnt in my altboot menu? Jul 19 04:18:08 do i need to reformat sd to ext or something ? Jul 19 04:26:32 there is no /etc/mtab ? Jul 19 07:51:52 ipkg install ipkgs/ipk/armv5teb/osc_0.2-r1_armv5teb.ipk Jul 19 07:51:52 Upgrading osc on root from 0.1-r1 to 0.2-r1... Jul 19 07:51:52 Configuring osc Jul 19 07:51:52 Collected errors: Jul 19 07:51:52 Multiple packages (osc and osc) providing same name marked HOLD or PREFER. Using latest. Jul 19 07:52:23 how do achieve to get not an error but simply upgrade Jul 19 08:13:04 rob_w|laptop: that's warning. remove "speedup" patches. Jul 19 09:08:49 Hi all, Jul 19 09:09:47 I was wondering if you can advice me a web browser to play with : minimo or gpe-mini-browser ? Jul 19 09:10:31 GdkLauncher Jul 19 09:21:31 note that I am in a gpe environment... Jul 19 09:21:50 I see that it begins to download qt-x11 : outch ! Jul 19 09:26:14 XorA|guadec: I used the webkit recipe Jul 19 09:27:06 hey noglitch Jul 19 09:28:39 koen: Hey, Guadec's good ? Jul 19 09:28:46 yes Jul 19 09:33:32 More questions coming up... is anyone there? Jul 19 09:34:52 Question : is there a kernel image 2.6.17 for the netbook pro anywhere? I have 2.6.16 running at the moment, with gpe. Jul 19 09:37:01 2.6.16, not 2.6.9? Jul 19 09:38:22 it's the image I mentioned yesterday (in the ~anonymous directory). I thought that was 2.6.16. Jul 19 09:39:42 Sorry, it's in http://www.linuxtogo.org/~anonymous/ Jul 19 09:39:56 (along with netbook-booting.txt) Jul 19 09:41:23 Also seem to be having a problem with the orinoco pcmcia driver. According to the orinoco driver docs, it should be built into the kernel (as of 2.4.xx), so unless it was taken out of this image to save space, it ought to work... Jul 19 10:06:49 Sorry koen, you're right, it is using kernel 2.6.9-rc1-bk18-nb1 Jul 19 10:07:10 (found it in the System Information app... duh...) Jul 19 12:33:12 hi Jul 19 12:52:23 fd/quit Jul 19 14:03:59 re Jul 19 14:04:05 hi vanguard Jul 19 14:04:07 hi vanguard Jul 19 14:04:23 hi xota ans summatusmentis Jul 19 14:06:23 Has anyone got a SL-C1000 seen on a normal pc via usb ? A "lsusb" does not show the Z to be seen on usb-port at all. Jul 19 14:06:45 Of course, cdc_ether and usbnet is loaded. Jul 19 14:07:22 I saw the same problem reported in a FAQ, but there was no answer to it. Jul 19 14:08:25 i haven't sorry Jul 19 14:13:47 hi antone know what i need to format my sd card as to get it working ? Jul 19 14:14:17 mkefs.ext2 Jul 19 14:14:18 work in ??? Jul 19 14:14:38 im on ubuntu at the mo Jul 19 14:14:44 with ext2 it will not work in windows/cameras Jul 19 14:14:51 ok Jul 19 14:14:57 mkfs.msdos ? Jul 19 14:15:26 mkfs.vfat most likely Jul 19 14:15:34 i think the problem is mount sd for g4lv4tr0n Jul 19 14:15:42 g4lv4tr0n: the SD is mounted ? Jul 19 14:15:57 fdis /dev/sde Jul 19 14:15:58 yep i formated with windows now i have a bad partition table Jul 19 14:16:01 fdisk /dev/sde Jul 19 14:16:08 With unmounted. Jul 19 14:16:13 so now i need to format using ubuntu Jul 19 14:16:34 Crappy Ubuntu automatically mounts every device. Jul 19 14:17:05 if it is formated in windows, it will be ready to use when you plug sd on ubutun machine Jul 19 14:17:11 i have no /dev/sde in ubuntu Jul 19 14:17:18 it is a 4gb sd ? Jul 19 14:17:49 Was it primarily formatted with linux ? Jul 19 14:18:08 If yes, it will not work, to format with windows. Jul 19 14:18:36 its mounted at the mo and its a 256sd Jul 19 14:18:38 You have to write the partition with linux. Jul 19 14:18:49 yeah im in ubuntu now Jul 19 14:19:08 ah found it sdg Jul 19 14:19:14 Then format, as psycoman said (but with an unmounted device) Jul 19 14:19:30 dmesg tells you everything you need. Jul 19 14:19:47 mkfs.vfat /dev/sdg1 Jul 19 14:20:23 And NOT mkfs.vfat /dev/sdg ! Jul 19 14:23:06 as vanguard told, use the /dev/sdg1 Jul 19 14:23:17 just to enphasys Jul 19 14:35:12 ok i formatted my SD to ext2 but it still wont show up in the altboot menu ? Jul 19 14:35:50 What kernel ? Which image ? Jul 19 14:36:00 it only shows boot from CF ? Jul 19 14:37:04 im using the 2.6.20 poodle with angstrom console image on internal and i have angstrom-x11.tar.gz on SD which i created a loopback-image Jul 19 14:37:15 Kernel 2.6.20 and akita does not work with sd-cards- Jul 19 14:37:29 You should use 2.6.21 Jul 19 14:37:53 i dont think there is a 2.6.21 for poodle ? Jul 19 14:38:10 It is a kernel related problem. Jul 19 14:39:22 Yes, I see. No one has built yet. Jul 19 14:40:04 What device needs poodle ? Jul 19 14:40:04 :( i thought people had altboot working off SD on poodle ? Jul 19 14:41:40 sl-5600..... Jul 19 14:42:17 yep Jul 19 14:42:22 Sry, I cannot help, as I have SL-C1000 and SL-5500 Jul 19 14:45:10 Maybe it is working with collie...... Jul 19 14:50:45 maybe if i use the CF get x11 working with wifi i can do a ipkg upgrade ? Jul 19 14:51:31 nice angstrom angstrom and x11 is quick off cf :) Jul 19 14:51:32 Yes, ikf everything is in flash-memory. Jul 19 14:52:10 Except kernel..... Jul 19 14:53:12 which is best gpe or e17 ? Jul 19 14:53:46 I use gpe, but I like opie more. Jul 19 14:57:41 looks good for beta stages on 5600 :) im guessing it can only get better :) Angstrom FTW! Jul 19 14:59:56 should i use a ramdisk ? Jul 19 15:00:31 will this improve things, and allow me to remove the cf card so i can use my cf wifi card Jul 19 15:01:06 If you do not boot into your cf-card, you can remove it anyway. Jul 19 15:01:32 i have to boot x11 from cf Jul 19 15:01:53 but once its booted i wanted to configure my cf wifi and upgrade Jul 19 15:07:00 Yes, then you cannot remove the card. Try console-image, then update, Jul 19 15:08:20 ok do you know how i get wifi working from command line ? Jul 19 15:09:06 Hmm, you can edit /etc/network/interfaces. Jul 19 15:09:14 ah ok Jul 19 15:10:06 i was trying an ifup wlan0 from command line with no success probably cause i didnt configure interfaces Jul 19 15:11:47 any try with the h6300. Jul 19 15:11:48 ? Jul 19 15:34:29 does anyone here run gentoo on their angstrom development box? Jul 19 15:35:38 wirelessdreamer, what's your problem? Jul 19 15:39:57 i did a fresh install about 2 months ago first, tried building angstrom-x11-image and it failed, asked in the channel and they said kill my tmp directory and try again, so i did and i'm still getting the same error, which is to follow :) Jul 19 15:40:08 | /usr/libexec/gcc/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/ld: warning: ld-linux.so.3, needed by /opt/OE/tmp/cross/li Jul 19 15:40:08 b/gcc/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/4.1.2/../../../../arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/lib/libc.so.6, not found ( Jul 19 15:40:09 try using -rpath or -rpath-link) Jul 19 15:40:31 my links to libc after a fresh install always get messed up Jul 19 15:40:41 i didn't know if maybe something distro specific were happening Jul 19 15:40:59 because i didn't see anything about this posted when i was googleing around Jul 19 15:41:48 i'm in the process of cleaning out tmp again and killed /usr/libexec/gcc/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi to rebuild the toolchain too Jul 19 15:42:13 wirelessdreamer: are yoiu building as root? Jul 19 15:42:16 no Jul 19 15:42:44 where did /usr/libexec/gcc/arm* come from then? Jul 19 15:43:37 probably a previous install, everything should live in /op/OE now under my current config Jul 19 15:43:46 */opt/OE Jul 19 15:43:55 wirelessdreamer: I expect thats the cause of your problem Jul 19 15:44:26 I would do find / -name "*angstrom*" and check for other stuff that has slipped out Jul 19 15:45:28 i'm guessing its because i set up crossdev in gentoo to build for angstrom a few months back and then forgot about it Jul 19 15:45:34 find just reminded me of that Jul 19 15:45:35 :) Jul 19 15:47:56 so i'll know if half a day now if that was why or not :) Jul 19 15:53:24 vanguard|afk, seems like somebody will soon fix the akita speaker problem Jul 19 15:53:37 !oebug 2617 Jul 19 15:53:58 ah I always forget that the bot is in #oe Jul 19 16:47:20 what partition shcema poky use ? Jul 19 16:53:12 hi Jul 19 17:23:01 hi pH5 Jul 19 17:23:18 good evening Jul 19 17:28:19 hi Jul 19 17:30:49 evening psokolovsky_ Jul 19 17:30:58 2 Jul 19 17:30:59 [6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[5~[5~ Jul 19 17:30:59 hhh Jul 19 17:30:59 fdfg Jul 19 17:33:49 i can't see thar Jul 19 17:37:52 f Jul 19 19:39:55 Hey guys, is it D+M to get to the system menu on an akita Zaurus? Jul 19 19:40:13 you can use menu key Jul 19 19:40:39 Menu key...? Jul 19 19:40:52 I'm talking about the place system menu that you can boot into to reflash nand Jul 19 19:41:47 ok Jul 19 19:42:02 Nevermind, I've got it :p Jul 19 19:42:05 i don't remember key combination Jul 19 19:42:26 Weird combination, had to hold those keys while it was unplugged, and then plug it in while still holding the keys Jul 19 19:46:06 Well, I've got it now, but no luck with it reading my 2GB sd card Jul 19 19:46:25 my akita use a 2 GB card Jul 19 19:46:47 Alright, maybe it was just a fluke then :p Jul 19 20:06:34 i think its d+m Jul 19 20:06:42 as you put the battery in Jul 19 20:09:44 wirelessdreamer: Yeah, that is it. But I've never had to put in the batter in I thought... Actually, I just remembered it XD Jul 19 20:10:04 I always did D+M + the reset switch next to the battery Jul 19 20:10:06 hey Jul 19 20:10:20 wirelessdreamer: you fixed your OE problem with gentoo? Jul 19 20:10:21 Same thing really Jul 19 20:10:34 OE problem w/ gentoo? Jul 19 20:15:30 i'm over half way through the build and is hasn't errored yet Jul 19 20:15:41 so i'm hoping it was just the old files i forgot to clean out from crossdev Jul 19 20:16:30 on a seperate note, does anyone here know why we don't use the kernel patch in pdaxrom to enable xrandr support in x to change to 320x240 res? Jul 19 20:18:31 wirelessdreamer: that would be a question for a pdaxrom channel I guess Jul 19 20:19:33 no i mean why we don't use the patch in the angstrom kernel Jul 19 20:22:33 sorry no idea about pdaxrom n'either about 320x240 devices Jul 19 20:23:51 pdaxrom's 2.6 kernel has a patch so that akita and spitz can use either 640x480 in x or 320x240 in x, so not 320x240 devices, for clarification Jul 19 20:24:03 it helped alot with snes9x so games would run fullscreen Jul 19 20:24:26 I tried snes9x it was too slow on my akita Jul 19 20:26:57 i have a c3100 with an angstrom e17 image on now and it runs it windowed in x fine, but i want 320x240 because most emulators run better that way Jul 19 20:27:06 i just found a post that may help though :) Jul 19 20:28:19 looks like the angstrom release i'm running is missing /etc/fb.modes Jul 19 20:28:54 with an entry there it looks like the current angstrom kernel should support it Jul 19 20:29:05 i was just used to it being bound to fn^2 Jul 19 20:29:45 ...and how are you supposed to do it? Jul 19 20:30:36 http://atari-source.org/?q=node/57 Jul 19 20:30:49 that has the fb.modes entry for qvga Jul 19 20:31:00 trying it now Jul 19 20:31:44 re Jul 19 20:47:50 i have it changing from 480x640 to 240x320 in the console after making that file and installing the fbset ipkg Jul 19 20:48:04 still doesn't help xrandr, not sure whats required for that Jul 19 20:50:24 Gah, so after reflashing, I keep getting this error- Empty Flash at 0x ends at 0x Jul 19 20:50:29 Just scrolling down my screen Jul 19 20:50:35 Well, I incremements Jul 19 20:50:52 Don't know the correct name for 0x0256bffc stuff :\ Jul 19 20:52:02 i have a c3k, so i never touch my flash, it doesn't look like its reading it right though ;) Jul 19 20:52:22 note <----c3000 not c3100 Jul 19 20:52:33 Pft Jul 19 20:52:35 I should have gotten that Jul 19 20:52:38 :\ Jul 19 20:52:44 you can ignore your flash you know Jul 19 20:52:53 Thought the 128 megs of flash would have been enough Jul 19 20:52:57 Can I? Jul 19 20:53:06 all angstrom kernels do Jul 19 20:53:12 they boot off /dev/hda# Jul 19 20:53:44 But how would I go about fixing this error :\ Jul 19 20:53:46 the kernel goes into a special part of flash somewhere, but its not the normal user flash Jul 19 20:54:03 thats in the d+m screen it says that? Jul 19 20:54:11 Nop Jul 19 20:54:12 No* Jul 19 20:54:15 When I try to boot it Jul 19 20:54:32 go to d+m and format all your flash then do a fresh install of an image from there Jul 19 20:54:35 After pressing ok + power to put angstrom on it Jul 19 20:54:36 Alright Jul 19 20:55:09 i do all my installs from the safety console and manually partion and mkfs then untar images Jul 19 20:55:20 so i'm not that familiar with the normal installer scripts Jul 19 20:55:22 That Jul 19 20:55:29 That's a bit too much for me to attempt Jul 19 20:55:47 your getting your empty flash errer because nothing got installed there Jul 19 20:56:08 Ok Jul 19 20:56:17 if your installer doesn't format your flash/ partition it/ and install the files correctly then you could easily get the message you have now Jul 19 20:56:33 you'd be fine to just boot off cf again and install Jul 19 21:00:04 has anyone here got a mic to work under angstrom? Jul 19 21:26:25 Omfg Jul 19 21:26:29 I'm a complete idiot Jul 19 21:26:36 I named the file initd.bin Jul 19 21:26:45 It's initrd.bin Jul 19 21:26:46 Wow Jul 19 21:27:06 hehe :) Jul 19 21:27:11 glad it was something simple Jul 19 21:27:20 Yeah Jul 19 21:27:21 that error and file corrupted... Jul 19 21:29:16 what wm's does everyone here use on their z? Jul 19 21:29:42 matchbox Jul 19 21:31:13 matchbox Jul 19 21:37:39 Much better :) Jul 19 21:37:45 This makes me happy Jul 19 21:42:17 it looks like clearing out my garbage was my only problem, i just build angstrom-x11-image and now i'm building the e17 task Jul 19 22:10:41 hi Jul 19 22:11:00 Hi Jul 19 22:19:35 hi Jul 19 22:20:43 there are downloadable gtk-webkit web browser for angstromm? Jul 19 22:27:48 if i copy my OE/tmp/deploy/glibc/ipk directory to my web server and then add that path to my feed i'll be able to download new packages with ipkg after i update right? Jul 19 22:28:06 bye! Jul 19 22:30:24 wirelessdreamer: yep, kinda Jul 19 22:31:26 kinda? Jul 19 22:31:38 angstrom kernel for n800 doesn't boot Jul 19 22:33:25 hmm Jul 19 22:34:09 * xota saluda! Jul 19 22:34:10 anyone did moved opera browser from nokia/Z to something like ipaqs? Jul 19 23:10:13 Hmm... Jul 19 23:10:34 Wenever I install a package to my SD card (-d sd) it never installs it correctly =\ Jul 19 23:11:16 It never links it correctly, the necessary files are there Jul 19 23:11:55 ipkg does not link the files automatically ( it never did ) Jul 19 23:12:03 you need ipkg-link for that Jul 19 23:12:06 Oh, it didnk? Jul 19 23:12:09 I had no idea :\ Jul 19 23:12:23 and ipkg-link isn't in the feeds since it's broken by design Jul 19 23:12:30 >.> Jul 19 23:12:37 Then what can I do to fix this little problem Jul 19 23:12:56 a) don't install to SD Jul 19 23:13:00 b) use root on sd Jul 19 23:13:04 c) use altboot Jul 19 23:13:14 Alright Jul 19 23:13:34 But I don't a huge SD card, that's my problem :\ Jul 19 23:13:43 I guess it's about time to get a new one Jul 19 23:17:07 Anyway I can just link the files manually? Jul 19 23:17:25 why can't you install it to flash? Jul 19 23:17:40 (or disk, dunno what machine you're on) Jul 19 23:18:11 Akita, and my flash isn't that big, would the 128 meg size be a reason to move over? Jul 19 23:18:31 128MB is not big?!?! Jul 19 23:18:44 >.> Jul 19 23:18:48 that's freaking huge Jul 19 23:19:01 <3 microdrive Jul 19 23:19:02 Oh, ha, totally read df wrong Jul 19 23:44:39 hey here Jul 19 23:45:18 I just built a static parted with openembedded... just to realize I cannot run it from the nand console of my Terrier Jul 19 23:45:41 is there any way to run an angstrom image without mounting root ? Jul 19 23:46:23 I'm trying to resize / (and I know it'd be faster to backup everything and restore afterwards) Jul 19 23:46:54 (but where's the fun if you do not try ? ^ ^) Jul 19 23:49:14 nodens: altbooting into a different partition of your MD should do icely Jul 19 23:49:19 *nicely Jul 19 23:49:20 running that won't work, since the 2.5 kernel doesn't do EABI Jul 19 23:49:47 (and why won't people accept that ext2 on microdrive is faster as zlib on jffs on nand) Jul 19 23:50:42 * CoreDump|home uses ext3....might just as well use a journal Jul 19 23:50:57 yeah Jul 19 23:51:10 the md and nand have basically the same read speed Jul 19 23:51:24 but on the md you don't have the wearleveling and zlib overhead Jul 19 23:53:16 * xota re! Jul 19 23:54:02 so the md will be faster *and* you'll save power by not hammering the cpu Jul 19 23:54:18 (I said all this before, but somehow it doesn't seem to stick) Jul 19 23:57:39 heh Jul 19 23:58:19 why someone would use the tiny flash on an MD-equipped machine for file storage is beyond me as well Jul 19 23:58:39 and for paulm/speculatrix, I explained it few times to him personally on those ph0rums Jul 20 00:05:58 CoreDump|home, never used altboot apart from your rom where everything was ready :) Jul 20 00:06:33 ROM == Read Only Memory Jul 20 00:06:36 ;) In theory it should have been pre-installed on your image Jul 20 00:06:39 now go sit in the corner ;) Jul 20 00:07:52 koen, aye aye... I'll write it 100 times on my terminal : "no rom on zaurii" Jul 20 00:08:35 it's zauri or zauruses :) Jul 20 00:08:47 and they do have a ROM for the rescue partition Jul 20 00:08:52 not in french ;) Jul 20 00:08:52 that's why you can't brick them Jul 20 00:08:56 (except collie) Jul 20 00:09:34 and I used OZ on collie ;) Jul 20 00:10:26 but booting angstrom won't mount my / even if I use altboot to run on another device afterwards ? Jul 20 00:10:37 sorry, I'm tired Jul 20 00:10:39 I mean Jul 20 00:10:52 my / *will* be mounted Jul 20 00:11:21 parted won't like it, right ? Jul 20 00:18:36 altboot allows for multiple root partitions Jul 20 00:19:35 forget it, now I understand... it's a pivot-root Jul 20 00:19:45 or something alike Jul 20 00:28:17 it's using pivot-root indeed Jul 20 00:29:45 great Jul 20 00:29:51 I'll give it a try tomorrow Jul 20 00:29:54 thanks Jul 20 00:30:22 np Jul 20 00:33:05 now, nothing to do with altboot, but shouldn't fn+3 and fn+4 adjust brightness ? Jul 20 00:33:27 it should ( and does here) Jul 20 00:33:42 http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2328 bited me... but it doesn't on my terrier Jul 20 00:33:50 try restarting x11 Jul 20 00:34:02 I did Jul 20 00:34:19 I use 20070709 build Jul 20 00:34:39 there is one small bug left in regards of 2328 Jul 20 00:34:58 sometimes the backlight is "on" with a brightness of "0" Jul 20 00:35:26 then opening the lid will _not_ turn the BL back on Jul 20 00:36:06 also sometimes keylaunch dies on resume ( or at least is non-functional ) resulting in non-working Fn-3/Fn-4 buttons Jul 20 00:36:22 arf. Fun :) Jul 20 00:36:47 however, Fn-3/Fn-4 never worked here... even before suspend Jul 20 00:37:06 something must be missing Jul 20 00:38:42 is "display-brightness" installed? Jul 20 00:39:09 not if it isn't by default :) Jul 20 00:39:35 it should be Jul 20 00:40:01 also "keylaunch" should be running. Configuration is done via /etc/keylaunch Jul 20 00:40:19 keylaunch is running, I checked that Jul 20 00:41:07 but there is no /etc/keylaunch, do you mean keylaunchrc or keylaunch.matchbox ? Jul 20 00:41:17 keylaunchrc Jul 20 00:42:05 key=...*3:-:~display-brightness.sh down Jul 20 00:42:05 key=...*4:-:~display-brightness.sh up Jul 20 00:42:19 the above should be in there Jul 20 00:42:59 yes, it is Jul 20 00:43:13 then it is supposed to work Jul 20 00:43:20 but it doesn't work, and vt changing keys doesn't as well Jul 20 00:43:58 maybe your Fn key is fucked Jul 20 00:43:59 ? Jul 20 00:45:08 hope not :/ Jul 20 00:45:14 the Z is brand new Jul 20 00:45:30 @ and | work :) Jul 20 00:45:35 so Fn works Jul 20 00:46:11 I just tried to strace keylaunch, it doesn't do anything when I press keys Jul 20 00:46:32 you need to launch it _before_ X comes up Jul 20 00:46:45 it was launched by init Jul 20 00:46:49 I used strace -p Jul 20 00:46:56 hmm Jul 20 00:47:18 I see select() and read() when I move a window Jul 20 00:47:51 but it gives a "ressource temporarily unavailable" in this case Jul 20 00:48:03 don't know if it's to be expected Jul 20 00:48:14 strace dumps a lot of stuff on keypresses here Jul 20 00:48:27 nothing happens on keypress... :-| Jul 20 00:48:44 nm Jul 20 00:48:54 very strange Jul 20 00:48:57 not keypresses, only the resulting actions cause output Jul 20 00:49:59 I only see the result 2323 as I try to Fn+2 and Fn+3 ;) Jul 20 00:50:52 root@spitz:~$ cat /etc/version Jul 20 00:50:52 200705310019 Jul 20 00:51:25 my image is rather dated. Maybe someone or something b0rked keylaunch in the meantime Jul 20 00:51:35 it seems so Jul 20 00:52:13 it says 200706060056 here (even if I installed 20070709 build) Jul 20 00:52:41 could it be the 2.6.21 kernel ? Jul 20 00:52:49 it is possible Jul 20 00:53:14 I'm stull running 2.6.20 Jul 20 00:53:19 *still Jul 20 00:53:25 I may try a downgrade when I have some times Jul 20 00:53:41 yep Jul 20 00:53:42 I'll bugreport when I find out what causes this... Jul 20 00:53:52 excellent =) Jul 20 00:54:21 now I really need to go to sleep, it's almost 3am and I work at 8 ;) Jul 20 00:54:29 'night Jul 20 00:55:03 nodens: n8 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Jul 20 02:59:56 2007