**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jul 24 02:59:57 2007 Jul 24 08:22:28 * xota saluda! Jul 24 09:11:21 psokolovsky, Hi, excuse me I have one little question, do you have already made a initrd image for h3900 ? Jul 24 09:34:07 what you mean exactly? Jul 24 09:38:09 psokolovsky, in fact i m following this guide http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/BootingLinuxFromCF to try to boot from CF without Haret, which as we've seen yesterday is broken for h3900 Jul 24 09:38:42 isn't that page lists itself as deprecated? Jul 24 09:38:54 psokolovsky, where ? Jul 24 09:41:12 well, it hints at least Jul 24 09:42:19 psokolovsky, I need to find a way to boot without using Haret Jul 24 09:42:38 nice Jul 24 09:43:00 afk Jul 24 14:07:09 hi Jul 24 14:33:35 how can i install mplawe iwmmxt ? Jul 24 14:33:44 s/mplawe/mplayer Jul 24 14:33:52 ipkg allways install armv5te Jul 24 14:34:45 psycoman: it should be in the feeds Jul 24 14:35:21 it is Jul 24 14:35:32 but ipkg install always get arm5vte Jul 24 14:36:15 i can set a order arch for ipkg ? Jul 24 14:37:12 psycoman: what device? Jul 24 14:37:55 spitz Jul 24 14:39:50 psycoman: does your /etc/ipkg/arch.conf have arch iwmmxt with a value > than the arch armv5te one? Jul 24 14:39:57 and is http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/feed/iwmmxt/base/ in your configured feeds? Jul 24 14:41:19 pH5: armv5e 31, armv5te 36 and iwmmxt 41 Jul 24 14:44:49 iwmmxt is not in feed, thnkx Jul 24 15:02:38 pH5: i have put iwmmxt in feed, make a update but still installing armv5te Jul 24 15:06:13 "The message's content type was not explicitly allowed" is what I got from : angstrom-distro-devel-owner@linuxtogo.org Jul 24 15:06:25 can someone look at angstrom-devel ML config? Jul 24 15:15:52 hrw: html? Jul 24 15:16:57 no Jul 24 15:17:00 gnupg signed Jul 24 15:17:10 gow arch.conf works ia priority list ? Jul 24 15:17:11 same mail hit OE ML without problems Jul 24 15:17:21 * hrw -> food Jul 24 15:18:44 s/gow/how Jul 24 15:29:22 psycoman: strange, works here w/o problem here. Jul 24 15:29:34 I have /etc/ipkg/iwmmxt-base.conf which contains the line "src/gz base http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/feed/iwmmxt/base". Jul 24 15:29:35 ipkg update creates /var/lib/ipkg/iwmmxt, and after that ipkg install mplayer installs the iwmmxt version Jul 24 15:30:02 "src/gz iwmmxt http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/feed/iwmmxt/base", sorry. Jul 24 15:47:36 hrw: angstrom-* does not accept GPG signed mails (at least it did't in the past) Jul 24 15:49:46 ~blame koen? Jul 24 15:50:17 more likely mickey, he set up the list Jul 24 15:50:28 ;) Jul 24 18:19:06 has anyone here successfully accessed a mic on a spitz or similar with alsa drivers? Jul 24 18:39:26 !zero_chaos Jul 24 18:39:36 !seen Zero_Chaos Jul 24 18:39:37 antihaxer, Zero_Chaos is right here! Jul 24 20:17:12 nodens: eclair wokrs ? Jul 24 20:38:14 anyone know anothers feeds ? Jul 24 20:56:46 hi Jul 24 20:58:41 hey psycoman, mimecar Jul 24 20:58:49 hi nodens Jul 24 20:58:51 psycoman, didn't try yet Jul 24 20:59:14 mhmm... never noticed that e17 logo right next the OE one Jul 24 20:59:22 wonder when it was installed :) Jul 24 21:00:53 i find this music player Jul 24 21:01:00 Gimmix Jul 24 21:01:12 i will use this to try make my first .bb :) Jul 24 21:02:38 Hey nodens Jul 24 21:02:47 hey antihaxer Jul 24 21:02:52 I have a problem. Jul 24 21:02:52 so, does wifi work now ? Jul 24 21:03:01 don't we all ? ^ ^ Jul 24 21:03:01 I installed openzaurus. Jul 24 21:03:10 strange idea... Jul 24 21:03:17 very.... Jul 24 21:03:28 I got my wifi working with the command "iwconfig eth0 essid Home" Jul 24 21:03:48 that's good Jul 24 21:03:49 It connected and irc worked and the web browser worked etc. Jul 24 21:04:09 Within a few minutes however the screen turned white and my zaurus froze. Jul 24 21:04:53 I pulled out my wireless linksys wcf12 cf card and it unfroze and the white color disappeared. Jul 24 21:05:04 sounds fun Jul 24 21:05:11 antihaxer: akita? Jul 24 21:05:11 I have no idea what is wrong, I rebooted several times and the same thing occured. Jul 24 21:05:16 Yes Jul 24 21:05:22 The CL-C1000/Akita Jul 24 21:05:24 seems like a bug in the driver to me Jul 24 21:05:29 interesting, your not the first person to have that happen Jul 24 21:05:34 and it seems to be akita only Jul 24 21:05:39 Sounds better than what other people told me. Jul 24 21:05:55 Yes, I googled and saw other people with the same problem. Jul 24 21:05:58 last time I blamed hardware failure on card, but 2x people with the same is wierd Jul 24 21:06:10 Ya, someone else told me hardware failure as well. Jul 24 21:06:14 I have a wcf-12 and it works perfect on spitz Jul 24 21:06:22 My zaurus is new though, and the card seems to work great. Jul 24 21:06:26 :/ Jul 24 21:06:36 could be a hardware bug Jul 24 21:06:47 antihaxer: it can be a bug on the operating system Jul 24 21:07:02 like, kernel + slightly different bus voltage + faulty firmware Jul 24 21:07:06 Would there be anyway to fix it? Is it only with openzaurus? The other people who had problems with it, which os were they using. Jul 24 21:07:33 I would really not like to have to buy another card, seeing how the wcf12 costs 80 new. Jul 24 21:07:35 antihaxer: Im afraid I am stumped, but there does seem to be some wierdness with akita Jul 24 21:07:45 :/ Jul 24 21:07:51 * XorA|gone doesnt have access to one Jul 24 21:07:54 this is hard to debug, if you don't have a serial console, and some kernel knowledge :/ Jul 24 21:08:04 Serial console? Jul 24 21:08:04 and the harware of course Jul 24 21:08:39 I could always buy the stuff, if it is cheap. If not I better start looking for another card. Jul 24 21:09:00 oh, it is cheap, just a usb serial interface Jul 24 21:09:12 i could always go out and grab one then. Jul 24 21:09:20 you could even do it yourself if you have some soldering ability :) Jul 24 21:09:34 antihaxer: are you in US Jul 24 21:09:38 Yes, I am. Jul 24 21:09:44 Yes, I bet I could. Jul 24 21:09:48 antihaxer: look on amazon, serial cable is like 2$ Jul 24 21:09:50 I have a serial cable and many usb cables. Jul 24 21:10:06 Is the soldering simple? Jul 24 21:10:16 Do you have a diagram. Jul 24 21:10:19 there are some posts on oesf forums Jul 24 21:10:20 getting the connector is a bitch Jul 24 21:10:25 about it Jul 24 21:10:37 So easier to buy one? Jul 24 21:10:38 but if there are 2$ ones on amazon, just go for it Jul 24 21:10:41 Ya Jul 24 21:10:56 So you guys will eb able to help me debug it for sure if I get a cable? Jul 24 21:10:57 http://www.amazon.com/Sharp-Zaurus-SL-5500-CE-170TS-RS-232C/dp/B0000645V7/ref=sr_1_11/102-6866596-3335307?ie=UTF8&s=musical-instruments&qid=1185311442&sr=8-11 Jul 24 21:11:02 Is there one on newegg? Jul 24 21:11:08 I prefer using paypal. Jul 24 21:11:15 antihaxer, I didn't say I could :) Jul 24 21:11:23 I lack kernel knowledge :) Jul 24 21:11:33 Hmm Jul 24 21:11:43 Does anyone know? lol Jul 24 21:11:44 but I guess you could start by sending kernel log via syslog to this console Jul 24 21:11:52 and see if there is anything Jul 24 21:12:12 and maybe some printk in the driver code Jul 24 21:12:19 to know when it happens Jul 24 21:12:50 you could sniff the traffic as well to check if it's related to some strange frames sent by your AP Jul 24 21:12:59 stuff like that Jul 24 21:13:08 Hmm Jul 24 21:13:23 So no one who had this problem has solved it. Jul 24 21:13:37 searching reccuring patterns... half of the problem is to find out what triggers it Jul 24 21:13:55 When I type iwconfig eth0 essid Home Jul 24 21:14:01 It does it Jul 24 21:14:06 no precise enough :) Jul 24 21:14:19 Sometimes it will work and then all of a sudden start Jul 24 21:14:22 Kind of random Jul 24 21:14:36 mhmm... the hardest ones ;) Jul 24 21:14:40 I will try with another AP when I get a chance. Jul 24 21:14:56 maybe you can just sell your card and buy another one ;) Jul 24 21:15:26 Well, Zero_Chaos told me this is the best card for injecting. Jul 24 21:15:57 Do any usb cards work with the zaurus? I heard that the linksys usb ethernet worked with it. Jul 24 21:17:34 Nodens, so you dev programs in oe Jul 24 21:18:07 I try. Jul 24 21:18:16 and I'm merely packaging :) Jul 24 21:18:32 (ouch... segfault when pccardctl eject) Jul 24 21:18:35 (baaaad one) Jul 24 21:19:04 I think it ejected my hard drive :-P Jul 24 21:19:18 no binary left Jul 24 21:19:37 antihaxer: how long since locking the AP and the screen whiting out is it? Jul 24 21:19:54 antihaxer: maybe I just dont use my wcf-12 long enough to trigger problem Jul 24 21:22:32 nodens: see gimmix music player ? Jul 24 21:22:55 oh well I have to go Jul 24 21:23:48 cya XorA|gone Jul 24 21:23:49 psycoman, nice... "graphical MPD" Jul 24 21:24:00 and it fast Jul 24 21:24:10 some one compile it in pdaXrom and told Jul 24 21:24:18 this is fast and good Jul 24 21:24:30 i think it can be default media player for angstrom ^^ Jul 24 21:25:06 well, if you can submit a .bb file I'm sure someone'll be willing to include it in OE Jul 24 21:25:18 yeap i know Jul 24 21:25:19 I hope, at least ;) Jul 24 21:25:30 i will use it for studie bitbake / oe builder Jul 24 21:25:43 Not long at all Xor|gone Jul 24 21:25:48 5 minutes max Jul 24 21:26:30 Nodens, so you get a normal program made for linux and package it so it will work in the zaurus, correct? Jul 24 21:27:50 nodens: how i sumit a .bb file ? Jul 24 21:27:50 antihaxer, that's the idea Jul 24 21:27:56 Kool Jul 24 21:28:20 psycoman, send it on the -devel list once it's working for you Jul 24 21:28:24 I can't manage to get oe installed :/ Jul 24 21:28:42 brb Jul 24 21:29:51 koen, you here? Jul 24 21:36:59 I realy need to be more careful Jul 24 21:37:32 I froze my Z twice in a row, accidentally pushing "on" while trying to remove the sd card Jul 24 21:38:37 pushing on ? Jul 24 21:39:04 I mean pushing the "on" button Jul 24 21:39:33 and the Z doesn't like to have a card ejected while it's going to sleep :) Jul 24 21:42:06 mhmm... I think I won't be trying eclair tonight Jul 24 21:42:15 I need to build a bunch of dependencies Jul 24 21:43:22 OE uses CVS versions for e libs and apps now... so the packages in the feeds are obsoletes when it compares to the one I built Jul 24 21:43:59 well... "patience et longueur de temps font plus que force ni que rage" ;) Jul 24 21:46:35 the good new is that I have most of the development and native package I need built already :) Jul 24 21:46:59 (but still, "Running task 1019 of 4229") Jul 24 21:47:06 OE need a buildd Jul 24 21:47:09 like debian Jul 24 21:47:18 a new version ? a new build Jul 24 21:47:43 it would add consistency Jul 24 21:47:50 if not OE, at least angstrom ;) Jul 24 21:48:35 but there would be a lot of arch to build. I wonder if is possible to build for several images at once Jul 24 21:48:39 nodens what programs have you got working with the zaurus so far Jul 24 21:49:10 give me time... eclair is the first ;) Jul 24 21:49:44 u have not got any working yet? Jul 24 21:49:44 s/images/target/ Jul 24 21:49:54 oh, a lot Jul 24 21:50:04 What kind of program is eclair. Jul 24 21:50:06 but not the one I need Jul 24 21:50:20 lol nodens, you tryn to build world ? Jul 24 21:50:23 rather, stuff needed to build what I need ;) Jul 24 21:50:31 psycoman, nope, only e-image Jul 24 21:50:37 so I have a feed ;) Jul 24 21:50:44 link Jul 24 21:50:45 antihaxer, media player Jul 24 21:50:51 i dont know this target Jul 24 21:50:55 e-image Jul 24 21:51:10 You have your own feed? Link? Jul 24 21:51:16 antihaxer, no public feed yet Jul 24 21:51:29 I have space if you need it Jul 24 21:51:31 nodens: exists a script for public mu ipks ? Jul 24 21:51:37 I'll first set up one for my own use :) Jul 24 21:51:40 I have 100 gbs disk space Jul 24 21:51:47 And 1000 gb bandwidth Jul 24 21:52:18 kind of you, but uploading would be a pain, and it doesn't really worth it for now ;) Jul 24 21:52:39 I just need a feed so I don't have to play forever with dependancies Jul 24 21:52:45 Well whenver, just hit me up. Just let it running over night :0p Jul 24 21:53:09 psycoman, I was told in #oe that building an image suffice to set up the Packages index Jul 24 21:53:31 once you have that all you need to do is to set up a virtualhost in a web server ;) Jul 24 21:53:53 but I see no need in compete with official angstrom feeds... Jul 24 21:54:16 i wnat buid my personal feed, just for me Jul 24 21:54:21 everything I build is in OE or, I hope, will be Jul 24 21:54:23 but i dont know how Jul 24 21:54:26 :/ Jul 24 21:54:36 psycoman, well... I'm trying right now... Jul 24 21:54:44 :) Jul 24 21:55:02 another question you setup e-image target ? Jul 24 21:55:10 psycoman, and for the target, just look in the packages/images and you'l see all images :) Jul 24 21:55:18 yeap Jul 24 21:55:23 sorry i forget Jul 24 21:56:07 So both of you use angstrom, correct? Jul 24 21:56:20 The basic default image? Jul 24 21:56:32 antihaxer, yes Jul 24 21:56:50 The default image comes with like nothing. lol Jul 24 21:56:59 nice, please if you finish put it to download ^^ Jul 24 21:57:05 there is plenty of packages in the feed. Jul 24 21:57:08 i dont wanna make 4000+ packages Jul 24 21:57:17 Yes Jul 24 21:57:28 hmmm Jul 24 21:57:37 Ima go reinstall angstrom Jul 24 21:57:46 Maybe get the cf working Jul 24 21:57:51 then ifi make a bitbake xfce-image i get a imagell full with xfce working ? Jul 24 21:58:14 psycoman, it's supposed to work that way :) Jul 24 21:58:46 in theory you could build a minimum image and then just add the packages you need Jul 24 21:58:49 What are some must have problems Jul 24 21:58:53 but it is a bit tedious Jul 24 21:58:56 programs** Jul 24 21:58:57 lol Jul 24 21:58:59 For angstrom? Jul 24 21:59:16 * psycoman make some stupid questions, just for enforce.... Jul 24 21:59:23 antihaxer, just had my Z for two weeks, and way too much work to play with it properly... Jul 24 21:59:29 Ahh Jul 24 21:59:31 don't know yet :) Jul 24 21:59:36 I just got mien yesterday lol Jul 24 21:59:48 psycoman, what about you Jul 24 21:59:55 I had a collie before, but I was using CoreDump modified OZ Jul 24 22:00:04 not angstrom Jul 24 22:00:09 ah Jul 24 22:00:15 What do you have now Jul 24 22:00:21 a terrier Jul 24 22:00:28 ah Jul 24 22:00:47 armv5te EABI Jul 24 22:00:49 must have programs are screen, a good terminal, bash, bash-completion for now :) Jul 24 22:00:54 Is the akita architecture, correct? Jul 24 22:00:59 yes Jul 24 22:01:08 Haha, all come default with angstrom Jul 24 22:01:27 Do dependencies come with the ipk packages? Jul 24 22:01:54 antihaxer, if you use a feed, yes, but i think I told you that yesterday ;) Jul 24 22:02:09 Just making sure, better be safe than sorry. ;) Jul 24 22:02:18 and the feeds are already set up with a default image Jul 24 22:02:35 Default image? What do you mean by that? Jul 24 22:02:44 I mean any image ;) Jul 24 22:03:16 it's in the minimal image, and all other images are like the minimal one but with more packages ;) Jul 24 22:03:33 Ahh Jul 24 22:03:45 The minimal one is just bash Jul 24 22:03:53 The x11 one just has more packages. Jul 24 22:03:54 Correct? Jul 24 22:04:02 more or less Jul 24 22:04:08 it's not bash Jul 24 22:04:13 but busybox Jul 24 22:04:33 and there is a few more things ;) Jul 24 22:04:33 meh Jul 24 22:04:36 lol Jul 24 22:04:42 and even minimal image is nothing like set of packages ;-) Jul 24 22:04:46 I got the jist of it. Jul 24 22:06:00 ok, I'll go smoking, reading, sleeping while it build... it uses all my CPU time anyway Jul 24 22:06:03 My 2gb sd card, should I format it with ext2? Jul 24 22:06:05 'n8 ppl Jul 24 22:06:12 evening Jul 24 22:06:16 Later Jul 24 22:06:45 XorA|gone, did you mean me by blaming the hardware with prism2 issues? Jul 24 22:07:22 at least I had problems with it and nobody had an idea what could be wrong because the identifier said it would be supported. I gave it to a friend and it worked in his pda Jul 24 22:07:42 Ya, damn WCF12 Jul 24 22:08:07 it was an intel... something Jul 24 22:11:06 antihaxer, WCF2011BEWW Jul 24 22:11:17 o Jul 24 22:11:52 did not work for me with akita Jul 24 22:19:52 brb Jul 24 22:40:12 how i can make a feed with my builds ? Jul 24 22:40:44 exists a script to sumary data and make packages.gz ? Jul 24 22:47:28 psycoman, to summary which data? Jul 24 22:51:00 i wnat make a feed Jul 24 22:51:07 want Jul 24 22:51:59 just for easy install in my device Jul 24 22:56:41 psycoman: bitbake package-index Jul 24 22:56:59 Make your deploy directory readable via http. Jul 24 22:57:04 I think that's about it. Jul 24 22:57:42 * joshin is guessing that angstrom is as easy to set up a feed as OpenZaurus was Jul 24 23:00:04 i keep trying to build gpe-image for h4000 and it keeps failing on thcrut_1.2.5.bb Jul 24 23:00:06 :/ Jul 24 23:01:52 i have even tried updating the branch Jul 24 23:10:28 joshin: where i configure my deploy directory ? Jul 24 23:10:31 psycoman, to get rid of the personal feed part you could add the packages you desire to your stuff/org.openembedded.dev/conf/local.conf directory Jul 24 23:10:52 they will be included in the images you build then Jul 24 23:14:18 dcordes: i loking in local.conf but dont find the config Jul 24 23:17:49 psycoman, you have to add that exra_install line Jul 24 23:18:07 I'm not at my OE build machine right now so I can't help with the exact name Jul 24 23:18:45 exitis a how to in wiki ? Jul 24 23:22:59 psycoman, I have no idea Jul 24 23:23:01 sorry Jul 24 23:23:17 have to go Jul 24 23:23:17 bye Jul 24 23:24:00 oka tnkx Jul 24 23:24:02 cya **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Jul 25 02:59:57 2007