**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Aug 09 02:59:57 2007
Aug 09 08:33:05 <senuxis> hello
Aug 09 08:33:24 <senuxis> have you a rom for nokia n800?
Aug 09 08:34:17 <koen|gprs_> no
Aug 09 08:34:27 <koen|gprs_> ROM = read only memory
Aug 09 08:34:38 <koen|gprs_> those are useless
Aug 09 08:34:56 <senuxis> ok, I mean 'images'
Aug 09 08:35:14 <senuxis> image builds
Aug 09 08:37:27 <koen|gprs> have you checked the 'download' link on the site?
Aug 09 08:42:41 <senuxis> koen|gprs: which zimage can be used with the x11-image?
Aug 09 09:23:51 * xota saluda!
Aug 09 09:41:37 <gints> hi koen
Aug 09 09:41:39 <gints> hi all
Aug 09 09:42:21 <gints> how far is h3900 support in angstrom?
Aug 09 12:01:48 <XorA> koen: BTW I had fun building this out of spares on monday http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?q=6082_1&v=z
Aug 09 12:02:36 <koen> nice
Aug 09 12:03:06 <koen> I used to use the flames in tailpipes of lego cars :)
Aug 09 12:04:04 <XorA> heh heh, I was missing dragon, but managed to get one for 2gbp on ebay
Aug 09 12:04:21 <XorA> and that guys wand is the same crazy glow in the dark as the ghosts
Aug 09 12:05:07 <koen> I should rebuild the spaceshuttle
Aug 09 12:05:39 <koen> http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?q=8480_1&v=z
Aug 09 12:05:43 <XorA> apparently in just the sets in my setlist I own 17532 bricks
Aug 09 12:06:05 <koen> that canadian arm is really sweet
Aug 09 12:06:30 <hrw> if my child will be a boy then it will be time for lego for him ;d
Aug 09 12:07:08 <XorA> oh fibre optic lego
Aug 09 12:07:16 * XorA doesnt have any of thatr
Aug 09 12:08:14 <XorA> hrw: there is lego paradiso for girls
Aug 09 12:08:27 <hrw> but I am not a girl
Aug 09 12:08:55 <XorA> raise a tom boy then
Aug 09 12:14:04 <koen> XorA: http://www.flickr.com/photos/koenkooi/1060205639/
Aug 09 12:15:37 <XorA> koen: heh heh
Aug 09 12:18:41 * rwhitby has a 6 yr old boy, and lots of lego.
Aug 09 13:20:16 <eekee> Lego!
Aug 09 13:20:29 <eekee> uh, 'scuse me, got excited for a second there ^^;
Aug 09 13:22:04 <XorA> heh heh
Aug 09 13:22:53 * koen wonders why the mediawiki crowd didn't use the OZ mediawiki for testing
Aug 09 17:03:37 <eekee> where do I file a bug
Aug 09 17:03:56 <eekee> ?
Aug 09 17:04:15 <koen> first link in the topic, second paragraph
Aug 09 17:04:40 <eekee> the mailing list? ok :p
Aug 09 17:05:05 <eekee> oh there, nvm
Aug 09 17:25:21 <dcordes> koen: you own a nokia n800, don't you?
Aug 09 17:30:47 <dcordes> I'm trying to figure out if the n800 is faster than the akita or not
Aug 09 17:31:03 <eekee> dude, I install fluxbox & I can't log out to try it :p
Aug 09 17:31:30 <koen> dcordes: insanely faster
Aug 09 17:31:40 <koen> it has an fpu and 128MB ram
Aug 09 17:31:50 <dcordes> sounds good
Aug 09 17:32:16 <dcordes> thing is the z keyboard
Aug 09 17:32:28 <dcordes> irreplaceable :-(
Aug 09 17:32:51 <dcordes> koen: what about size and weight?
Aug 09 17:34:45 <koen> get a bluetooth keyboard, much nice
Aug 09 17:37:51 * xota re!
Aug 09 17:38:42 <dcordes> koen: are you using angstrom on it?
Aug 09 18:01:06 <dcordes> koen: what kind of 802.11 chipset does the n800 have?
Aug 09 18:03:22 <koen> some connexant thingy iirc
Aug 09 18:03:33 <koen> eekee: I think I fixed the fluxbox problem
Aug 09 18:03:53 <koen> eekee: it should be in the feeds in ~5 minutes
Aug 09 18:04:56 <eekee> ok :)
Aug 09 18:09:16 <dcordes> koen: could you be so kind and give me the pci description
Aug 09 18:09:36 <dcordes> or whole n800 lspci? already tried google, yes
Aug 09 18:10:44 <koen> it has no pci bus
Aug 09 18:11:15 <koen> afaik it's a cx3110x
Aug 09 18:12:56 <dcordes> oh ok thanks
Aug 09 18:19:42 <dcordes> dcordes: i read somthing about usb 2.0 in connection with the n800. does this apply to its usb host functionallity?
Aug 09 18:30:04 <dcordes> already speaking to myself :D
Aug 09 18:30:27 <dcordes> s/dcordes/koen
Aug 09 18:31:58 <koen> usb2 12mbit, unpowered usb host
Aug 09 18:32:13 <koen> AIUI
Aug 09 18:33:55 * dcordes hmm needink 2,5" hdd
Aug 09 18:44:40 <dcordes> koen: isn't 12mbit uusb1?
Aug 09 18:44:49 <koen> no
Aug 09 18:45:04 <koen> usb<version> has nothing to do with speed anymore
Aug 09 18:45:44 <dcordes> do you know the zaurus usb speed by chance?
Aug 09 18:45:50 <koen> 12mbit
Aug 09 18:46:10 <koen> but the zaurus has powered usb, so you can use stuff without a hub
Aug 09 18:46:21 <dcordes> so what is it making the n800 usb controller usb 2.0?
Aug 09 18:46:43 <dcordes> koen: well I can use keyboards mice and stuff
Aug 09 18:47:11 <dcordes> but 802.11 devices and such with an usb battery
Aug 09 18:47:33 <koen> usb2 has some extra commands iirc
Aug 09 18:48:34 <dcordes> so the n800 doesn't have _any_ power so it is not even possible to have input devices working w/o extra power?
Aug 09 18:48:53 <koen> right
Aug 09 18:48:58 <koen> but that's what bluetooth is for
Aug 09 18:49:07 * koen hugs bluetooth
Aug 09 18:49:17 <dcordes> ok that doesn't hurt so much
Aug 09 18:49:53 <dcordes> only thing i'm using is my ralink rt73 which needs extra power anyways also on the z
Aug 09 18:51:42 <dcordes> what's more useful on the n800: maemo or angstrom?
Aug 09 18:51:58 <koen> at this moment: maemo
Aug 09 19:08:33 <eekee> My spitz has a dickey charging socket already :/
Aug 09 19:11:09 <nauj27> hi..
Aug 09 19:12:31 <toma> The instructions for Spitz tell me to download 4 files, but where do i find 3 of them (gnu-tar, the zImage file and updater.sh) 
Aug 09 19:12:50 <koen> they are in the tarball
Aug 09 19:12:52 <nauj27> I know, this is not for zaurus general support but... I have removed and reset the battery of my c1000 zaurus and now the orange led don't go on, and don't start :S
Aug 09 19:13:18 <nauj27> some idea?
Aug 09 19:13:20 <koen> toma: untar the tarball on a cf card, no need to rename stuff anymore :)
Aug 09 19:13:20 <toma> koen: ok
Aug 09 19:13:38 <toma> koen: great, i'll try and adjust the wiki
Aug 09 19:14:04 <nauj27> :'(
Aug 09 19:14:55 <nauj27> no cards connected, battery switch in right position...
Aug 09 19:19:46 <Luzhin> Hello
Aug 09 19:20:00 <Luzhin> Can anyone help me?
Aug 09 19:20:21 <toma> koen: they unpack in a subdir, do i need to move them up one level?
Aug 09 19:20:35 <toma> Luzhin: dont ask that, just come to the point ;-0
Aug 09 19:21:51 <koen> toma: oh right, you need to move them up one level
Aug 09 19:28:15 * nauj27 think have a bricked akita :_
Aug 09 19:28:56 <eekee> ow >.<
Aug 09 19:29:25 <koen> you can't brick a zaurus
Aug 09 19:29:41 <koen> unless you take a hammer to the emergency ROM chip
Aug 09 19:29:46 <koen> a *real* ROM
Aug 09 19:29:49 <nauj27> :-O not yet xD
Aug 09 19:29:50 <eekee> don't panic though, my spitz has scared me several times over the past few days. It usually needs to be left for half an hour, and then it starts up with a little persuasion
Aug 09 19:30:19 <eekee> they have a real rom? cool
Aug 09 19:30:32 <toma> koen: thanks, there is now one user more on angstrom
Aug 09 19:30:43 <koen> yay!
Aug 09 19:31:09 <nauj27> does not start the backup/restore service menu :-/
Aug 09 19:31:13 <eekee> ^^
Aug 09 19:31:53 <toma> koen: i can not change the install instructions as those are not in the wiki
Aug 09 19:32:19 <nauj27> koen: what can I do to recover my little akita? :-/
Aug 09 19:41:51 <zsircusr2> hi
Aug 09 19:42:30 <zsircusr2> I want to boot Angstrom on hx2490 from SD card
Aug 09 19:43:36 <zsircusr2> I have to use images from hx2000?
Aug 09 19:45:23 <zsircusr2> So, on my 1Gb SD card i have 100Mb free space. Can I format this 100Mb to ext2 and place haret and zimage on that 900Mb?
Aug 09 19:46:18 <zsircusr2> I mean Can I save that 900 Mb of my info?
Aug 09 19:46:54 <zsircusr2> I have no opportunity to copy info and format all the card
Aug 09 19:47:47 <zsircusr2> So?
Aug 09 19:48:10 <Zero_Chaos> no
Aug 09 19:49:22 <toma> i can not find a mail client with ipkg list | grep -i mail - do i need to do anything additional to get one?
Aug 09 19:50:54 <zsircusr2> I must format all space?
Aug 09 19:51:03 <zsircusr2> All 1Gb?
Aug 09 19:53:09 <koen> toma: claws-mail?
Aug 09 19:53:19 <zsircusr2> ok, can I use INITRD?
Aug 09 19:56:24 <toma> koen: it tells me Nothing to be done/An error occured, return vallu3, cannot find package claws-mail, when i do ipkg install claws-mail. ipkg update runs ok
Aug 09 19:56:48 <toma> return value 4 that is
Aug 09 19:57:25 <zsircusr2> Can I use initrd with angstrom?
Aug 09 19:57:41 <nauj27> I go to leave it with ac power in the night... bye...
Aug 09 19:58:50 <toma> koen: no, nameserver issue i think, update does not run ok
Aug 09 19:59:24 <zsircusr2> ;(
Aug 09 20:02:52 <zsircusr2> ok, does anyone use Linux on hx2000 ?
Aug 09 21:28:22 <kmam> re
Aug 09 21:59:17 <summatusmentis> has anyone setup OE on OS X?
Aug 09 21:59:27 <summatusmentis> or should I just run a virtual machine and do it that way?
Aug 09 22:01:23 <koen> tried typing 'OSX' into the search field on the oe site?
Aug 09 22:06:30 <summatusmentis> no, I haven't yet, I was curious as to people's experiences
Aug 09 22:06:34 * summatusmentis goes and looks
Aug 09 22:11:53 <summatusmentis> thanks koen 
Aug 09 23:10:53 <eekee> anyone remember the default IPv4 address for usbd0?
Aug 09 23:12:53 <eekee> ah nvm, found another way of doing what I want
Aug 09 23:24:29 * eekee binds his home button to fire up a terminal ^^'
Aug 09 23:25:42 <summatusmentis> lol, win
Aug 10 02:00:06 <syamajala> gpe 2.8 is out
Aug 10 02:12:43 <summatusmentis> it has been for a while
Aug 10 02:12:57 <summatusmentis> I need to re setup OE though, so I have no idea if it's being in angstrom
Aug 10 02:51:15 <rwhitby> koen: ping
**** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Aug 10 02:59:57 2007