**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Aug 19 02:59:57 2007 Aug 19 15:09:21 hi Aug 19 16:36:42 hi dcordes Aug 19 17:00:26 hey mimecar Aug 19 17:00:36 good morning ;) Aug 19 17:00:46 mimecar: how is your zaurus going? Aug 19 17:00:49 you have a small delay of 24' Aug 19 17:01:01 my akita runs ok Aug 19 17:01:10 with the latest version of angstrom Aug 19 17:01:18 except calibration app Aug 19 17:01:36 you mean the latest released image? Aug 19 17:01:42 what delay are you talking about? Aug 19 17:02:08 (18:36:48) mimecar: hi dcordes Aug 19 17:02:16 you response was at 19:00 Aug 19 17:02:38 dcordes: i have a old mage that i 've updated Aug 19 17:03:31 ok sorry I didn't see someone was writing Aug 19 17:04:21 :P Aug 19 17:05:01 dcordes: this is my akita with angstrom http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/7ff61c068e4a176f444c5a2a5fe1d2b3.png Aug 19 17:06:04 mimecar: where can I get those icons? Aug 19 17:06:15 did you commit them? Aug 19 17:06:18 :) Aug 19 17:06:25 not yet Aug 19 17:06:48 icons of settings folder are not complete Aug 19 17:07:02 and it doesn't look ok if I don't replace all the icons Aug 19 17:07:17 but tango icons doesn't match with some apps of configuration Aug 19 17:07:53 I have a similar theme with gnome 2.18 icons Aug 19 17:08:42 I can install icons without overwrite original icons on the system Aug 19 17:12:04 mimecar: http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=z1xo5.jpg Aug 19 17:13:29 one alien have asimilated your phone :P Aug 19 17:14:56 heh it is a 2200mAh battery with my rt73 usb 802.11g device Aug 19 17:15:05 hooked up to the akita Aug 19 17:15:05 dcordes: you have a blue light in your hub? I'm so jealous... I have an orange light Aug 19 17:15:21 lol we can switch Aug 19 17:15:36 you got that same one? Aug 19 17:15:50 dcordes: I hate when companies do that, same hub, but yours has cool blue and I'm stuck with dumb orange :-P Aug 19 17:16:17 actually they couÃld avoid any leds Aug 19 17:16:33 I took it because the boxing said world's smallest usb hub Aug 19 17:16:39 yeah, I was thinking of shorting it, it seems a waste of power Aug 19 17:17:04 I don't think it is eating that much to be worth removing it Aug 19 17:17:34 hence the laziness :-) Aug 19 17:18:19 :P Aug 19 17:20:55 Zero_Chaos: did you notice me trying to contact you about that usb power consumption override yesterday? Aug 19 17:21:41 dcordes: I did not, but yeah, it can be done. But the zaurus provides very very little power so you still need the battery. Aug 19 17:23:00 Zero_Chaos: is there some howto? Aug 19 17:23:29 dcordes: for the power consumption override? I suppose if you google usb power override linux you will get it Aug 19 17:23:41 dcordes: I had the link a long while ago, but it wasn't worth much Aug 19 17:25:45 well actually I tried it with aspjs help but it didn't work. He tried to put some value to 1 in /sys/bus/usb/ but my rt73 didn't geta bus assigned Aug 19 17:26:12 dcordes: it likely doesn't have enough power without the battery Aug 19 17:26:22 of course I tried with the battery Aug 19 17:27:16 should work then Aug 19 17:27:27 I dunno, I always use the hub ;-) Aug 19 17:28:28 now that I have a working hub again I'm also using it but I was just wondering why it didn't work without the hub and override Aug 19 18:37:01 hi xota Aug 19 18:37:07 "good morning ;)" Aug 19 18:37:16 * xota saluda! Aug 19 18:37:56 hi mimecar good backup! Aug 19 18:38:14 xD Aug 19 18:52:06 hi Marex-notebook Aug 19 18:54:59 is there a icon theme that match visually with tango? Aug 19 18:55:15 I need mix icons of different themes to build one Aug 19 19:40:00 * xota re! Aug 19 20:26:57 Zero_Chaos: what's wrong with the hostap in the feeds? Aug 19 20:27:06 no injection? Aug 19 20:27:49 dcordes: hostap_rawtx isn't in the feeds. OZ never had rawtx support, angstrom does (I just need to fix it) Aug 19 20:45:38 Zero_Chaos: lol I'm compÃling 1.0-dev on device Aug 19 21:31:59 Zero_Chaos: is it pÃossible to voerclock akita while running? Aug 19 21:32:40 native compiling is boring Aug 19 21:32:44 on the zaurus Aug 19 21:35:02 dcordes: why in the world are you compiling natively? Aug 19 21:38:20 dcordes: that's why I don't compile natively Aug 19 21:38:58 summatusmentis: because my OE is broken Aug 19 21:39:18 and the fastest machine i posses is pentium3 500 obsoletus Aug 19 21:39:34 with the sheer power of 300megs ram Aug 19 21:40:25 which is _year2kready_ Aug 19 21:41:39 I gave my dad a machine with specs like that a few years ago, he's still using it Aug 19 21:41:47 plenty powerful, if you don't want to run windows Aug 19 21:42:02 or other overly bloated software Aug 19 21:44:05 go1dfish: well if it comes to compiling things Aug 19 21:44:16 I'm not going to compile OE 5 days :D Aug 19 21:52:00 s/OE/angstrom Aug 19 21:56:10 <_sodium> my fastest machine is 500mhz also ;) Aug 19 21:56:15 <_sodium> but its also ultrasparc Aug 19 21:56:44 _sodium: how long does it take it to build a complete angstrom image from scratch? Aug 19 21:57:11 <_sodium> i haven't built it.. yet Aug 19 21:57:19 <_sodium> but ill find out this week Aug 19 21:57:30 <_sodium> i distcc across a number of sparc machines Aug 19 21:57:47 maybe not earlier then next week :D Aug 19 21:57:53 <_sodium> heh Aug 19 21:58:22 _sodium: distcc = distributed gcc? Aug 19 21:58:23 <_sodium> well at work we have amd64, and ive been meaning to put a toolchain on my workstation Aug 19 21:58:28 <_sodium> yes Aug 19 21:58:35 I see Aug 19 21:59:15 <_sodium> the connections between the sparc boxen are gigabit ether so it can transfer the chunks rather quickly, build, and send it back Aug 19 21:59:18 so you have a number of those ultrasparc at home? Aug 19 21:59:27 nice Aug 19 21:59:28 <_sodium> all linking, etc.. is done on the host machine Aug 19 21:59:37 <_sodium> 4 Aug 19 21:59:54 <_sodium> none of them faster than 500mhz but it adds up Aug 19 22:00:06 I bet that's quicker than a single 2ghz machine? Aug 19 22:00:14 <_sodium> for some tasks Aug 19 22:00:59 <_sodium> in my case yes, because of the fast connection Aug 19 22:01:19 <_sodium> but dropping down to 10/100 probaly significantly changes the situation Aug 19 22:02:52 <_sodium> i want to build angstrom w/ gpe for a nice screenshot for wikipedia article Aug 19 22:03:33 why is the connection that critical? Is data from distcc host coming in small doses? Aug 19 22:03:55 _sodium: only for a screenshot? Aug 19 22:04:03 <_sodium> well among other reasons ;) Aug 19 22:04:35 what machine? Aug 19 22:04:45 <_sodium> akita, zaurus c1000 Aug 19 22:05:10 <_sodium> ive already put it on a sl5500, not much i can do with it atm as it seems it lacks usb gadgets modules for usb networking Aug 19 22:05:13 <_sodium> g_ether Aug 19 22:05:18 yeay best PDA in the world!! Aug 19 22:05:37 <_sodium> but i havent built my own yet Aug 19 22:05:40 <_sodium> image, that is Aug 19 22:06:20 <_sodium> i need to back up my custom openzaurus image on my akita, as its critical i don't lose it if something goes wrong with angstrom, i use the akita during meetings Aug 19 22:06:25 I think the sl5500 are pretty well maintained Aug 19 22:06:41 maybe you open a bug Aug 19 22:06:46 on the g_ether thing Aug 19 22:06:49 <_sodium> not suprising, there are alot of them out there Aug 19 22:07:04 <_sodium> well its missing from the modules tarball, so i wasn't sure if it was intentional Aug 19 22:07:24 <_sodium> all g_* are actually, from kernel usb modules Aug 19 22:07:56 ok sorry I don't want to feed you with wrong info Aug 19 22:08:12 <_sodium> n/p, im going to look at it more closely this week Aug 19 22:08:55 thing is for your akita backup you must keep in mind the changing of kernel between OZ and angstrom when you do backup your old stuff Aug 19 22:09:08 <_sodium> of course Aug 19 22:09:49 it would be easy to have it dualboot if just OZ wouldn't use that obsolete 2.4 Aug 19 22:09:56 you could put angstrom on sd then Aug 19 22:09:59 <_sodium> oz uses 2.6 Aug 19 22:10:26 <_sodium> afaik, for all SL modules Aug 19 22:11:04 <_sodium> my akita is 2.6.16 Aug 19 22:11:54 oops I only used OZ a few days when I received my akita early this year Aug 19 22:12:16 <_sodium> yea there were big improvements post 2.4 Aug 19 22:12:29 dcordes: OZ never used 2.4 on akita Aug 19 22:12:41 <_sodium> ah - there you have it Aug 19 22:12:54 we had 2.4/spitz release but it was disaster Aug 19 22:13:13 I meant that as in I don't remember what it ran Aug 19 22:13:21 <_sodium> hrw: btw, i cleaned up the openzaurus article on english wikipedia and started one for angstrom.. im going to put a screenshot up there and flesh it out a bit with some info from the wiki Aug 19 22:13:36 cool Aug 19 22:13:49 can you write about it on angstrom and oz ML? Aug 19 22:13:50 <_sodium> if you want to take a peek from time to time and make sure im not getting stuff wrong that would be nice ;) Aug 19 22:14:05 <_sodium> sure, ok Aug 19 22:14:43 <_sodium> ive been working on the gpe, oz, and angstrom articles as someone has been tagging them as not notable.. since the articles didnt really imply they were more than pet projects Aug 19 22:15:52 <_sodium> once you give them the standard linux distribution "infobox" that all the distros there use for standard OS information, add a logo, some screenshots... it looks professional enough ;) Aug 19 22:20:38 bye Aug 19 22:39:10 how can I install a compiled program in angstrom? Aug 19 22:39:15 make install is missing? Aug 19 22:39:49 you have make? Aug 19 22:41:56 <_sodium> make is in the feeds **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Aug 20 02:59:56 2007