**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Sep 17 02:59:57 2007 Sep 17 08:39:47 koen: the X preferred versions and providers are messed up in 2008.1 Sep 17 08:41:00 do I hear someone volunteering? ;) Sep 17 08:41:45 I just started doing 2008 builds again, so things might have been broken the past few weeks Sep 17 08:42:04 koen: well I wasnt sure if it was due to some half finished stuff, that will get completed by ph5 or just mistakes Sep 17 08:42:30 or both :) Sep 17 08:42:37 I wanted to play with that epithany, this is my first 2008.1 build Sep 17 08:43:13 should it be virtual/xserver or just xserver? Sep 17 08:44:15 virtual/xserver is for selecting an xserver to build XSERVER is for ipkg/deb Sep 17 08:44:33 all machine.conf define PREFERRED_PROVIDER_xserver = "xserver-kdrive" Sep 17 08:44:48 but all xorg files PROVIDE = "virtual/xserver" Sep 17 08:46:47 heh Sep 17 08:47:00 IMO that should be virtual/xserver Sep 17 09:02:04 damnation imageon driver patch has been borked Sep 17 09:02:55 seen CoreDump|afk around? Sep 17 09:20:35 my x4700 boots now with haret and the default.txt succesfully .... until the grey progressbar is at the very end. Then... happens NOTHIG no error, nor anything. Sep 17 09:20:39 And no log-file in /var/log. I used Image "Angstrom-console-image-test-20070506-hx4700.rootfs.ext2" Sep 17 09:26:24 hi all Sep 17 09:28:03 what about angstrom spitz compatibility with SDIO cards ? Sep 17 09:28:23 @all: no idea, why the grey progress-bar stops at the verry end? Sep 17 09:29:00 sorry, not enough knowledge about anstrom distro Sep 17 09:29:34 sounds like X didnt launch Sep 17 09:29:42 but I dont have an Ipaq Sep 17 09:30:21 XorA: tks to you, i can run smooth movies on my spitz, i can go up to 600 kpbs rate keeping smooth playing Sep 17 09:30:58 XorA: do you know if SDIO cards are usable with angstrom for spitz ? i'd like running SDIO bluetooth card Sep 17 09:31:03 ABC|dOC: at 320x240 600kps is just wasting disk space Sep 17 09:31:28 ABC|dOC: wait until next 2 kernel releases when SDIO reaches mainline properly Sep 17 09:31:42 ok tks you Sep 17 09:31:54 what mencoder options should i use to increase quality ? Sep 17 09:32:14 i tried lavcopts vhq, but not really nicer Sep 17 09:32:34 dunno, I just use the default, but the Zaurus screen is quite bad for colours in video, it looks all washed out and shitty compared to my gp2x Sep 17 09:33:07 many sites announcing Zaurus SL-C3200 is SDIO capable. And native Zaurus are running linux kernel, no ? Sep 17 09:33:26 XorA: i don't have many money ffor my geek stuffs, i'll continue with my Z ;) Sep 17 09:34:36 @ABC: but id x wont start, the xorg.o.log or syslog should be already present, shouldn't it? Sep 17 09:34:55 ABC|dOC: there was an SDIO wifi card for Sharp Zaurus, but it replaced the SD driver with a custom one Sep 17 09:35:04 ABC|dOC: and only worked with that one card Sep 17 09:35:11 ABC|dOC: real SDIO is coming real soon Sep 17 09:35:12 ok Sep 17 09:35:27 ABC|dOC: those sites are likely lieing to sell you the wrong hardware or are just stupid Sep 17 09:35:33 so it's a stable support for this SDIO wifi card ? or experimental ? Sep 17 09:35:51 ABC|dOC: Im not sure, but I dont think it entered the kernel yet Sep 17 09:35:56 ok Sep 17 09:36:10 you have/had a Z ? Sep 17 09:36:58 * XorA has hundreds of the damn things Sep 17 09:37:03 && ;) Sep 17 09:37:05 i have to go now cu Sep 17 09:37:18 so, can i continue with some questions ? Sep 17 09:37:27 XorA: why do you need so many ? Sep 17 09:37:31 ade|desk: I dont Sep 17 09:37:51 like : what about changing Z's micro drive with a faster/lower power consumption CF card ? Sep 17 09:37:54 ABC|dOC: never be afraid to ask Sep 17 09:37:56 are they yours or wolfs ? Sep 17 09:38:09 ade|desk: 3 are mine, 2 are OEs Sep 17 09:38:28 ah Sep 17 09:38:46 I own 5500, c7x0, C3200, OE owns 6000, 5600 Sep 17 09:40:03 XorA: : what about changing Z's micro drive with a faster/lower power consumption CF card ? Sep 17 09:40:14 is it possible / usefull / stupid ? Sep 17 09:40:23 ABC|dOC: its do-able, but I dont actually have a problem with battery life of HD Sep 17 09:40:34 ABC|dOC: and its pretty fast compared to all the flash I own Sep 17 09:40:40 ok for power, but speed is very slow Sep 17 09:41:02 if it's not micro drive, why hard disk access are so slow ? Sep 17 09:41:20 CF slot ? Sep 17 09:41:30 dont seem slow compared to flash here Sep 17 09:42:36 hdparm is reliable for speed test on micro drive ? Sep 17 09:43:37 only if you run bonnie++ as well Sep 17 09:44:22 i never used bonnie, but i'll try if available on spitz release Sep 17 09:44:51 another question, how to "eject" or "insert" CF cards by software ? Sep 17 09:45:10 in openzaurus distro (GPE and OPIE) it was a command called cardctl Sep 17 09:45:40 allowing to eject/insert card when leaving suspend mode, and allowing to reuse card without moving it manually Sep 17 09:45:40 pccardctl Sep 17 09:45:51 ok tks Sep 17 09:46:05 just needed "pc" before ;) Sep 17 09:46:21 why is there no sudo in angstrom ? Sep 17 09:46:51 ah! ah! ah root hack root hack !! Sep 17 09:46:53 pccard just controls CF card or SDtoo ? Sep 17 09:48:03 ABC|dOC: ipkg install sudo Sep 17 09:48:06 just pull out SD Sep 17 09:48:25 koen : not found on spitz angstrom Sep 17 09:49:01 XorA: how to manage CF cards ? if i understand what you mean, pccardctl just controls SD slot, not CF, right ? Sep 17 09:49:13 ABC|dOC: other way round Sep 17 09:49:18 ok Sep 17 09:49:28 pccardctl manager CF slot, not SD Sep 17 09:49:29 dont eject the microdrive though :-) Sep 17 09:49:38 && :) Sep 17 09:49:42 * XorA does that all the time Sep 17 09:50:01 i think i did it :) Sep 17 09:50:07 ls: command not found Sep 17 09:50:56 rebooting Z... Sep 17 09:51:20 so to eject CF card (not microdrive) what args i use ? Sep 17 09:51:26 eject 1 Sep 17 09:51:29 ok Sep 17 09:52:48 do u have a script that is launched on resume, ejecting/reinserting cf card, detecting type, and launching predefined script regarding cf type ? (is it a readable question ?) Sep 17 09:52:59 I have no script Sep 17 09:53:05 ok Sep 17 09:53:06 i'll do it Sep 17 09:53:38 but if you do pccardctl eject 1 on suspend, I think card get detected afresh on resume Sep 17 09:54:30 my view is to ejecting/resinserting CF card via software when resuming from suspend mode Sep 17 09:54:53 to allow using CF directly. because actually, when leaving suspend mode, my CF card is no more useable Sep 17 09:58:33 so i put my scripts in /etc/apm/resume.d Sep 17 09:59:19 where should i put script to be launched when insert/ removing card from CF slot (really, not software) Sep 17 09:59:51 read up on udev Sep 17 09:59:55 ok Sep 17 10:06:41 ok working !!! Sep 17 10:07:41 sometimes my Z screen becomes black, when not using it (not suspend mode, just switching screen off) Sep 17 10:07:52 and somtimes, i can't have screen coming back on Sep 17 10:08:08 pressing any key on Z, switching to suspend then resume, no changes Sep 17 10:08:26 Z is responding on ssh, but no way to switch screen on :( Sep 17 10:11:15 ABC|dOC: you can use "bl 1" to switch on the backlight via ssh. Sep 17 10:11:21 ok ! Sep 17 10:11:27 is it a known bug ? Sep 17 10:11:27 but yeah, thats a really frustrating "bug" Sep 17 10:11:33 i dunno. Sep 17 10:11:38 it was there under oz too. Sep 17 10:11:42 bl for backlight ok Sep 17 10:11:43 I also experience that in angstrom Sep 17 10:11:48 yep. Sep 17 10:11:52 but not in openmoko Sep 17 10:12:03 ive tried adding bl 1 to a soft key. Sep 17 10:12:05 possibly because I had no auto dim enabled Sep 17 10:12:09 but ive not had a chance to test it. Sep 17 10:12:34 the really nice thing, Sep 17 10:12:36 somtimes my CPU/MEM monitor is totaly black Sep 17 10:12:45 is that at least under angstrom, if you are near your ap, Sep 17 10:13:04 all you need to do to get wifi working (for me at least) is to remove and replace the cf nic. Sep 17 10:13:22 under oz when i had that problem, it was sometimes hard to get network working so i could ssh in. Sep 17 10:13:47 yea that's really working well Sep 17 10:14:03 what's the preferred way to customize configuration files in an angstrom image ? Sep 17 10:14:19 ie files in /etc, like /etc/hostname, dhclient.conf and such Sep 17 10:14:43 nud: ive been using the gui where possible. most of it works fine. Sep 17 10:14:46 I prefer nano Sep 17 10:14:50 I'd prefer avoiding patching every single package that provides a config file Sep 17 10:15:14 eh, no, I want the customized config file to be in the image, ie in the .jffs2 file Sep 17 10:15:15 HRH_H_Crab: my CF/Wifi problem was to automating the process to allow using CF card when leaving suspend mode, it's done now, and detecting card type. if the CF is my wifi CF, it's starting my wifi scanning/connecting script Sep 17 10:15:18 but if we are entering editor flamwar territory, i must stand up for vi! :D Sep 17 10:15:24 nud: ah you mean so you have your confs set up in the image? Sep 17 10:15:30 dcordes: that is Sep 17 10:15:44 you have to work your way through the recipes using patches Sep 17 10:15:50 I don't recommend this Sep 17 10:15:53 ABC|dOC: eugh thats no fun then! maybe just add bl 1 to the script as well. Sep 17 10:15:58 no better way ? Sep 17 10:16:01 rather create a script which alters the conf files for you after install Sep 17 10:16:07 no trust me that is no good idea Sep 17 10:16:14 ABC|dOC: if you want to get in now, Sep 17 10:16:25 you only have really three choices: Sep 17 10:16:29 mmh I'll follow the script way then Sep 17 10:16:37 HRH_H_Crab: i'll add bl 1 somewhere yes ;) Sep 17 10:16:37 hey Sep 17 10:16:38 but I'd have preferred some kind of automatized overlay Sep 17 10:16:58 1. keep trying, sometimes it just sorts itself, 2. pull the battery, 3. look up the sys req keys, sync disks for safety, and the reboot. Sep 17 10:16:59 :| Sep 17 10:17:08 i've amazing things happening on my Z Sep 17 10:17:30 wifi is working on my WPA AP, so the Z must be running wpa supplicant , but it isn't Sep 17 10:17:39 and ssh is working Sep 17 10:17:57 i think wifi under oz works with wpa_supplicant. Sep 17 10:18:04 yes Sep 17 10:18:07 its just that method to configure it has changed. Sep 17 10:18:13 i've a strange thing happening Sep 17 10:18:23 i killed wpa_supplicant Sep 17 10:18:32 to test somethng Sep 17 10:18:44 so i think the wifi should be stopped Sep 17 10:18:55 but it isn't, my Z is still responding on ssh but wpa is killed on Z Sep 17 10:19:00 dunno. Sep 17 10:19:15 i think wpa_supplicant just initiates the connection. Sep 17 10:19:20 WPA wont die until the next key exchange AFAIK Sep 17 10:19:24 not sure its required any more once thats done. Sep 17 10:19:24 I don't like wpa. It's too complicated Sep 17 10:19:36 how to kill totaly wpa XorA ? Sep 17 10:20:05 i mean, if my script need to kill it to start anything else, it won't wait minutes (more ?) to continue Sep 17 10:20:19 ah Sep 17 10:20:27 seems to be disconnected now Sep 17 10:20:32 ABC|dOC: Im not sure what you are trying to do, whats wrong with ifdown wlan0? Sep 17 10:20:46 my goal was to test aircrack Sep 17 10:20:49 so i wanted to stop wpa Sep 17 10:21:01 and i saw my wifi light still flashing Sep 17 10:21:18 so i'm looking why it's happening Sep 17 10:21:22 not more, not less Sep 17 10:21:48 so i'll ifdown too, and i'll see if i can do what i want Sep 17 10:22:08 XorA: how to add / edit icons on graphic interface ? Sep 17 10:22:57 ABC|dOC: create .desktop files Sep 17 10:25:48 ok tks Sep 17 10:25:56 hmm Sep 17 10:26:02 how to edit existing icons ? Sep 17 10:26:33 gimp icon.png Sep 17 10:27:13 is there a howto for prism2 with wpa encryption in angstrom somewhere? Sep 17 10:27:41 I tried to fill in the psk into the commented interfaces file but didn't work Sep 17 10:27:50 wlan0 no private ioctls on ifup Sep 17 10:28:09 dcordes: I dont have a WPA network as my wife owns a DS Sep 17 10:28:16 ahahah dcordes_ , i mean editing icons and shortcuns Sep 17 10:28:16 that screws us for WPA Sep 17 10:28:21 shortcuts Sep 17 10:28:43 I use wep at home too because I was too lazy to setup wpa yet Sep 17 10:28:49 and it didn't really work on the akita so... Sep 17 10:29:00 XorA: why not using double SSID AP ? Sep 17 10:29:04 * XorA burns all akitas Sep 17 10:29:04 like fonera boxes Sep 17 10:29:05 but everybody else has wpa so I would like to make it work now Sep 17 10:29:20 ABC|dOC: whats the point if you need to have WEP anyway? Sep 17 10:29:23 XorA: how to edit icons/shortcuts on desktop ? Sep 17 10:29:36 XorA: you can have WEP ssid + WPA ssid Sep 17 10:29:39 edit .icon files Sep 17 10:29:44 i wont use ftp on unsecure wireless Sep 17 10:29:45 s/.icon/.desktop Sep 17 10:29:45 ABC|dOC: whats the point? Sep 17 10:29:55 wep is unsecure Sep 17 10:30:06 not important for DS gaming, ok Sep 17 10:30:08 who cares Sep 17 10:30:14 ABC|dOC: so, if I have WEP+WPA then the security hole is still there, so why bother with WPA Sep 17 10:30:18 my neighbour can see all my p0rn Sep 17 10:30:18 testers welcome: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/images/spitz/20070917/ Sep 17 10:30:28 wpa is stronger than wep Sep 17 10:30:39 i mean, you could have 2 wifi networks using 2 modes Sep 17 10:30:47 koen Sep 17 10:31:04 i'll test it, is there a patch or a full install only ? Sep 17 10:31:14 it is an image Sep 17 10:31:18 ABC|dOC: your example is like having a bank vault door with a wooden door beside it, only an idiot would crack the steel door when they could just axe open the wooden door Sep 17 10:31:25 'patch' == 'ipkg update ; ipkg upgrade' Sep 17 10:31:37 xora: you can firewall your network Sep 17 10:31:39 haha nice Sep 17 10:31:53 ABC|dOC: thats done by default Sep 17 10:31:54 ABC|dOC: no reason for any encryption then Sep 17 10:32:08 i have 2 networks, one totaly trusted, WPA + ethernet. other untrusted WEP+ another switch . all traffic is controlled with iptables Sep 17 10:32:17 so it all comes down to, that because I have to have WEP, WPA is worthless Sep 17 10:32:46 dcordes_: ftp auth is clear text, imap/pop3 are clear too... Sep 17 10:33:02 i don't want my password to be readable so easily Sep 17 10:33:40 * XorA doesnt have ftp, and POP/IMAP are not clear text if you can read the docs for more than 5 seconds :-) Sep 17 10:33:49 thats why I dont use my ISP for email Sep 17 10:34:18 hi vanguard Sep 17 10:34:23 Hi dcordes Sep 17 10:34:28 xora : i don't too, but if i use wifi connexion to imap my mails on my local network, anyone could snif it Sep 17 10:34:29 ABC|dOC: can you help me with wpa on my zaurus? Sep 17 10:34:33 How are things ? Sep 17 10:34:37 dcordes_: i can help yes :) Sep 17 10:34:41 ABC|dOC: you need to learn about STARTTLS Sep 17 10:34:42 very nice Sep 17 10:34:45 i can try (and maybe help) Sep 17 10:34:48 ABC|dOC: querry? Sep 17 10:35:07 XorA: i do imaps and many protocol using ssl Sep 17 10:35:21 but samba and other dummy stuffes doesn't support (or i don't know how) Sep 17 10:35:41 dcordes_: msn or icq may be, because i'm not registered in freenode, and can't pv someone Sep 17 10:35:44 ABC|dOC: samba has for 10 years supported encrypted passwords, before even Win98 did Sep 17 10:35:46 ABC|dOC: My AP is wpa/psk encrypted with clear type password 12345678. I havea prism2 cf card in my zaurus. How do I get it setup? Sep 17 10:35:55 ABC|dOC: jabber?! Sep 17 10:36:07 shame on my, i've only msn and icq :) Sep 17 10:36:19 maybe i can conf my IM for jabber now Sep 17 10:36:23 XorA: I have a question. Sep 17 10:37:05 ABC|dOC: gaim? Sep 17 10:37:15 XorA: Well, about compiling kernl-modules. Can you try, to build ov511-source ? Sep 17 10:37:22 dcordes_: pidgin :p (new GAIM name) Sep 17 10:37:27 same Sep 17 10:37:46 just open up adding accounts dialogue, select jabber, read Sep 17 10:37:54 you can register from within pidgin Sep 17 10:38:07 damn Sep 17 10:38:14 where is jabber support in pidgin ? Sep 17 10:39:06 ABC|dOC: install the module ! Sep 17 10:39:16 :) Sep 17 10:39:23 ABC|dOC: install libpurple-libjabber Sep 17 10:40:39 isn't that installed by default? Sep 17 10:40:53 it should be already there. Possibky the protocol is not named Jabber but XMPP Sep 17 10:41:10 ok dcordes_ Sep 17 10:41:40 I'm lgorris@jabber.ccc.de Sep 17 10:42:00 no libpurple-libjabber package on debian sid Sep 17 10:42:28 looked out for XMPP in pidgin add accounts? Sep 17 10:43:16 ok xmpp i have Sep 17 10:43:22 that is jabber Sep 17 10:43:26 ok Sep 17 10:43:54 fill in username Sep 17 10:44:03 what ever i want ? Sep 17 10:44:04 chose a server and password, click register Sep 17 10:44:18 ressource ? Sep 17 10:44:34 what machine you are on Sep 17 10:44:35 laptop Sep 17 10:44:39 home Sep 17 10:44:47 this can vary Sep 17 10:45:03 Home yes Sep 17 10:45:14 no "server" Sep 17 10:45:24 jabber.ccc.de Sep 17 10:45:26 :D Sep 17 10:45:34 where i write this ? Sep 17 10:45:41 server :) Sep 17 10:46:05 i have no box server Sep 17 10:46:11 i've Domaine (french version) Sep 17 10:46:11 box server? Sep 17 10:46:21 yes take domaine Sep 17 10:46:23 ok Sep 17 10:46:26 c'est bon Sep 17 10:46:33 tu es francais ? Sep 17 10:46:36 non Sep 17 10:46:45 bist du deutsch ? Sep 17 10:46:46 je suis .de Sep 17 10:46:49 ouai Sep 17 10:46:53 gulen tak ! Sep 17 10:47:16 vite vite! completer le setup de jabber haha Sep 17 10:47:28 i'm on jebber right Sep 17 10:47:35 doctor_madness Sep 17 10:48:54 ABC|dOC: added you Sep 17 10:50:03 vanguard: today is Public Holiday Sep 17 10:50:26 XorA: where do i edit existing desktop icons/shorcuts ? Sep 17 10:50:52 /usr/share/applications Sep 17 10:51:03 * XorA goes to get pancakes before doing so xorg hacking Sep 17 10:51:19 tks Sep 17 10:51:25 good lunch Sep 17 11:01:12 XorA: No problem ! Holiday is holy day ! Sep 17 11:14:47 XorA: how to set a desktop icon to be in different places ? Sep 17 11:15:24 i'd like maemo-mapper icon to be in 'Other' folder, and on desktop Sep 17 11:18:43 koen : i've troubles using ipkg update Sep 17 11:25:42 what file browser is available (just to go in 1 rep, to clik a movie and to have mplayer starting it) Sep 17 11:35:33 XorA: I updated alsa-state with my fingers crossed Sep 17 11:37:36 akita doesn't like me Sep 17 11:37:42 it won't give me WPA Sep 17 11:38:48 my prism2 cf seems to not work with wpasupplicant Sep 17 11:41:28 and rt73 usb claims to not support private ioctls Sep 17 11:58:47 koen: cool Sep 17 11:59:45 * XorA really does start to wonder what happens when your mortgage company goes bust Sep 17 12:33:48 NOTE: package xserver-kdrive-1_1.4-r0: task do_compile: started Sep 17 12:33:53 now lets see where it breaks Sep 17 12:35:30 :) Sep 17 12:38:07 XorA: btw, re: mortgage - is it random thought or are there some issues in UK like in US? Sep 17 12:38:47 psokolovsky_: the issues in US just took out a UK bank, the one I have mortgage with Sep 17 12:39:47 XorA: Oh my. Anyway, I hope all's will be ok on your side! Sep 17 12:40:19 psokolovsky_: well Im ok, Im in the house, I just wonder what happens when the people you owe money to no longer exists :-) Sep 17 12:40:33 ;-) Sep 17 12:43:51 XorA: your best bet is that northern rock will sell off your mortage to someone else. Sep 17 12:44:03 even so i think interest rates are set to rise... Sep 17 12:44:04 :( Sep 17 12:44:17 HRH_H_Crab: Im still in my fixed period so there is jack shit they can do there Sep 17 12:44:24 hmmm Sep 17 12:44:46 well thats nice. Sep 17 12:44:56 i think they can still sell it though. Sep 17 12:45:04 but the new buyer should ofc honor the terms. Sep 17 12:45:24 HRH_H_Crab: the new buyer has to honour the contract as signed, otherwise they lose their money Sep 17 12:45:34 yep. Sep 17 12:45:41 how long are you fixed for? Sep 17 12:45:48 another 2 years Sep 17 12:45:54 lucky skunk! ;) Sep 17 12:46:07 that might be enough to ride out this nonsense. Sep 17 12:46:14 should be Sep 17 12:46:23 im out of my fixed period. fortunately i have been overpaying mine like mad, Sep 17 12:46:41 so at least it wont be as bad as it could have been if id only paid what i had to. Sep 17 12:47:13 just a pity its a bad time to re-mortgage Sep 17 12:47:28 idd Sep 17 12:47:53 i want to do that because i badly want to change bank, and ive a mortgage thats tide to my pigging current acount. Sep 17 12:48:02 *tied. Sep 17 12:48:10 *account. Sep 17 12:48:12 :P Sep 17 12:48:34 One Account? Sep 17 12:48:42 nah Sep 17 12:48:57 im with barclays and have a woolwich mortgage (i think( Sep 17 12:49:05 im confused now Sep 17 12:49:51 basically i was a happy woolwich customer (relatively speaking) but im finding barclays pretty crap. Sep 17 13:03:53 what is mortgage? Sep 17 13:06:11 dcordes: loan secured on a building you buy for the purpose of buying that building Sep 17 13:06:24 dcordes: otherwords, if you dont pay the loan, they own your building Sep 17 13:31:04 koen|away: how many Angstrom coreteam will be at OEDEM? Sep 17 13:32:20 5 Sep 17 13:32:41 out of 8 Sep 17 13:34:27 just wondering if we should steal an hour or so for an Angstrom meeting Sep 17 13:35:29 I hope the openmoko maintainer will be there as well to discuss sharing the stable branch Sep 17 13:36:08 I guess he might have crawled from woodwork by then Sep 17 13:38:10 lets hope so :) Sep 17 13:38:31 damnation, kdrive 1.4 moved on too much Sep 17 13:38:44 kdrive 1.4 has broken tslib and stuff Sep 17 13:39:12 so 2008.1 is kinda screwed X wise then? Sep 17 13:39:30 didn't I fix kdrive to 1.3 in 2008? Sep 17 13:39:34 I thought I did :/ Sep 17 13:39:57 koen|away: 1.3.0.0 doesnt build and PREFERRED_PROVIDER is 1.4.0 which doesnt exis Sep 17 13:39:58 t Sep 17 13:40:12 gnaaaa! Sep 17 13:40:22 * koen|away wonders why 1.3.0.0 doesn't build Sep 17 13:40:31 probably changes for now libs for 1.4 Sep 17 13:40:36 now/new Sep 17 13:41:19 ph5 added a bandaid for xcalibrate and stuff Sep 17 13:41:26 but it exposes a bug in tslib Sep 17 13:41:49 XorA: you'd have to poke ph5 about the tslib stuff Sep 17 13:42:08 are we supposed to be on 7.2 or 7.3? Sep 17 13:42:37 2007.9 -> 7.2+ and 2008.1 -> 7.3 Sep 17 13:42:56 well 7.3 .inc file is fscked Sep 17 13:43:15 as 1.4.0 doesnt exist for either kdrive or xorg Sep 17 13:44:15 I was trying to pull imageon stuff into 1.4, but all sorts of shit has changed Sep 17 13:46:41 why is my Xfbdev telling me Switching to mouse protocol "msc" Sep 17 13:46:41 Switching to mouse protocol "logitech" Sep 17 13:46:41 Sep 17 13:47:18 i pointed to a /dev/ttyS2 and i did configure a module mk712-raw in /etc/ts.conf ? Sep 17 13:58:29 kdrive 1.4 also fucks keyboard :-) Sep 17 14:01:22 * XorA rewinds 2008.1 to 7.2 X Sep 17 14:35:39 koen: did you get my comment that kdrive 1.4 also breaks keyboard? Sep 17 14:35:46 yes Sep 17 14:35:52 * koen stabs daniels Sep 17 14:35:55 * koen stabs kdrive Sep 17 14:36:04 bloomin nokia breakages Sep 17 14:36:17 * XorA still wonders about just running xorg Sep 17 14:36:57 whats nokia broke Sep 17 14:39:46 kdrive Sep 17 14:39:56 the tslib breakages were daniels work Sep 17 14:40:09 whom nokia employs to hack on X Sep 17 14:45:46 bah Sep 17 15:14:12 any1 had any luck with new poodle image ? Sep 17 15:17:22 * XorA is hungry Sep 17 15:23:29 * koen too Sep 17 15:25:40 gah 16:22 is too early for dinner Sep 17 15:25:55 17:24 isn't :) Sep 17 15:26:02 * koen heads to the kitchen Sep 17 15:26:04 please stop talking about food Sep 17 15:26:26 I have to wait until after some visitors come through before I can get lunch Sep 17 15:27:24 heh heh Sep 17 15:27:51 * koen puts on Ratamahatta Sep 17 15:28:25 heh heh 16mins until bittorrent fineshes restoring me backup :-) Sep 17 15:33:52 oh I also lost some backups Sep 17 15:33:56 * XorA goes to boil kettle Sep 17 17:51:13 ji Sep 17 17:51:14 hi Sep 17 17:54:24 how can I edit a .po file is located on source code? Sep 17 18:33:50 hi ints____g Sep 17 18:42:02 hi, would be possible to include md5 in installkits? I've never downloaded corrupted installkit.tgz, but few times I get corrupted hdimage after unpacking from spitz hdd to sd card on it Sep 17 18:44:13 I think you have MD5 sum for every file Sep 17 18:45:19 gzip has internal checksum Sep 17 18:45:29 so if the tar.gz unzips, you're sage Sep 17 18:45:32 safe* Sep 17 18:49:04