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Sep 24 03:25:42 <DaedalusX> is there any way to speed ipkg up when installing to sd?
Sep 24 03:25:47 <DaedalusX> it seems painfully slow
Sep 24 03:26:00 <Darth_Wader> replace your sd with faster one
Sep 24 03:26:16 <DaedalusX> I guess. I ordered a 150x Transcend 4 GB sd card
Sep 24 03:26:24 <DaedalusX> I've been told that it's compatible
Sep 24 03:26:26 <DaedalusX> I hope so
Sep 24 03:56:53 <DaedalusX> okay, this package is only 1 symlink, and I'm installing it to the flash memory, and it's taking forever.
Sep 24 03:57:00 <DaedalusX> maybe it's running ldconfig or something
Sep 24 03:57:05 * DaedalusX shrugs
Sep 24 03:57:12 <Darth_Wader> what package is it?
Sep 24 03:58:54 <DaedalusX> libgcc-s-dev
Sep 24 03:59:04 <DaedalusX> it literally is just a symlink
Sep 24 03:59:13 <DaedalusX> from libgcc.so.1 to libgcc_s.so
Sep 24 03:59:15 <DaedalusX> or something like that
Sep 24 03:59:31 <DaedalusX> there, finished
Sep 24 03:59:37 <DaedalusX> shouldn't take this long though
Sep 24 05:23:23 <dcordes> I did not know the zaurus was that famous :D http://scr3.golem.de/?d=0709/idf-moorestown&a=54885&s=6
Sep 24 05:30:53 <DaedalusX> dcordes, isn't it the best selling PDA in Japan?
Sep 24 05:31:53 <DaedalusX> dcordes, oh wait, it's the IDF
Sep 24 05:32:01 <DaedalusX> well, it DOES use an intel chip
Sep 24 05:39:16 <dcordes> and it looks like a perfect copy of the clamshell zaurus
Sep 24 07:16:26 <DaedalusX> damnit, fluxbox-gpe just doesn't work :(
Sep 24 07:56:58 <ABC|dOC>  hi
Sep 24 08:21:07 <HRH_H_Crab> morning ABC|dOC 
Sep 24 10:03:20 <ABC|dOC> hi there
Sep 24 10:03:25 <ABC|dOC> HRH_H_Crab: hi ;)
Sep 24 15:16:47 <XorA> damn PS3 stuff is worse than arm EABI/OABI split
Sep 24 15:33:09 <FernandoAngs> Hello there
Sep 24 15:33:38 <FernandoAngs> I'm trying to build X11 Angstrom distro for QEMU arm
Sep 24 15:34:19 <FernandoAngs> but I get an error with bluez-utils
Sep 24 15:34:38 <FernandoAngs> Error: CONTROL/conffiles mentions conffile /etc/bluetooth/hcid.conf which does not exist
Sep 24 15:35:57 <FernandoAngs> anyone knows why?
Sep 24 15:52:18 <XorA> I gues becasue /etc/bluetooth/hcid.conf isnt in the bluez-utils package
Sep 24 15:57:43 * koen guesses old metadata
Sep 24 15:57:52 <koen> the autobuilder builds things fine
Sep 24 19:09:36 <Crofton> Angstrom needs better definition and marketing :)
Sep 24 19:17:09 <koen> indeed
Sep 24 19:19:06 <Crofton> the distro/images confusion is very apparent
Sep 24 19:19:33 <Crofton> I need to print out these emails to read on the plane
Sep 24 19:20:12 <summatusmentis> is there a timeline for a specified angstrom release?
Sep 24 19:20:17 <Crofton> good to see the build root bashing :)
Sep 24 19:20:28 <koen> summatusmentis: about the same time as openmoko
Sep 24 19:20:42 <koen> details are planned to be discussed at OEDEM
Sep 24 19:20:46 <Crofton> hopefully we can publish a timeline after OEDEM?
Sep 24 19:20:59 <summatusmentis> koen: I haven't been following openmoko, soonish? or not really?
Sep 24 19:21:01 <koen> since we'll have 5 out of 8 angstrom core devs and the openmoko dudes present
Sep 24 19:21:14 <koen> summatusmentis: "this year" is my best guess
Sep 24 19:21:23 <summatusmentis> koen: ok, thanks. Just curious
Sep 24 19:21:29 <Crofton> I want Angstrom to get the gumstix business, but without all the gumstix users taking over the OE list and #oe/#angstrom :)
Sep 24 19:21:56 <Crofton> Angstrom/OE
Sep 24 19:22:42 <Crofton> that is the Angstrom/OE scaling problem
Sep 24 22:11:31 <DaedalusX> hi all... anyone here try out e17 yet?
Sep 24 23:11:14 <DaedalusX> damnit, why is it that I can't seem to get any of the alternative window managers to work?
Sep 24 23:15:42 <dcordes> DaedalusX: I would like to try if they are working for me but unfortunately I have no space
Sep 24 23:15:54 <DaedalusX> oh well
Sep 24 23:16:29 <DaedalusX> I can't get anything out of fluxbox... it just quits back to gpe-dm without even a peep, and enlightenment at least loads a bunch of stuff, then segfaults
Sep 24 23:16:32 <DaedalusX> looking into that now
Sep 24 23:17:21 <dcordes> DaedalusX: I like the possibility to move windows in fluxbox
Sep 24 23:17:28 <dcordes> so you can compare things
Sep 24 23:17:30 <DaedalusX> fluxbox is a good wm
Sep 24 23:17:37 <DaedalusX> I used it on my old laptop
Sep 24 23:17:49 <DaedalusX> but being a good wm doesn't do anything for you if it won't start :P
Sep 24 23:19:23 <dcordes> what is your device?
Sep 24 23:19:27 <DaedalusX> akita
Sep 24 23:23:32 <dcordes> same here
Sep 24 23:23:48 <DaedalusX> you don't have an SD card to stow stuff on?
Sep 24 23:24:04 <dcordes> that's what I do usually
Sep 24 23:24:24 <dcordes> I boot the whole system from 2gb SD  and don't use the internal flash at all
Sep 24 23:25:01 <dcordes> but since 2.6.22 altboot does not recognize SD cards. See http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3007
Sep 24 23:26:25 <DaedalusX> lame
Sep 24 23:28:43 <DaedalusX> w00t! I got further along on starting e!
Sep 24 23:29:45 <dcordes> which kernel/image do you run?
Sep 24 23:30:10 <DaedalusX> 20070909
Sep 24 23:30:28 <DaedalusX> the x11-gpe image
Sep 24 23:31:59 <dcordes> you don't boot from SD, do you?
Sep 24 23:32:04 <DaedalusX> nope
Sep 24 23:57:28 <dcordes> DaedalusX: e17 working well now?
Sep 25 01:28:33 <DaedalusX> dcordes, no.
Sep 25 01:28:44 <DaedalusX> dcordes, libevas is screwed up
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