**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Oct 21 02:59:56 2007 Oct 21 05:02:15 hey guys.. was running angstrom with gpe on a zaurus sl-c3000 Oct 21 05:02:29 is something wrong? Is there a reason gpe is so much less responsive than opie? Oct 21 05:02:55 I mean I kind of like gpe, but it's just not useable as a pda to me in terms of responsiveness Oct 21 10:09:20 hello, i want to build an Angstrom image for a c760 compiled for arm arch instead of armv5te (it cannot work with debian pocketworkstation), what configuration file should i edit? Oct 21 10:13:19 none, it's not supported Oct 21 10:13:30 you can use debian arm-EABI instead Oct 21 10:13:48 ok i'll try, thanks Oct 21 10:13:53 or, better you can tell the mailinglist what application is missing in angstrom so we can add it Oct 21 10:14:05 running a chroot debian is ass-backwards Oct 21 10:14:28 I need maxima+texmacs Oct 21 10:16:22 so send an email to the list telling you need that Oct 21 10:16:36 ok Oct 21 10:38:34 hi Oct 21 11:33:41 hi NAbyss Oct 21 11:36:54 ello Oct 21 11:43:35 hi bluelightning Oct 21 11:43:52 hi mimecar, all Oct 21 12:14:21 ping koen Oct 21 12:14:43 pong Oct 21 12:15:29 hi, koen ... i was lookng on machine mentors .. i notice you are ipaq h3800 mentor ... does angstrom work on it ? Oct 21 12:15:45 haven't tried it yet Oct 21 12:15:50 ahhh ok :) Oct 21 12:15:59 so probably not :) ... Oct 21 12:16:17 i try to do some work this week ... Oct 21 12:17:00 on next saurday there are LinuxDay Italy ... and i will show h3600 barelly running ... zaurus .. and i try with h3800 too ... Oct 21 12:24:48 gremlin[it]: which city? i will talk at rimini's linux day Oct 21 12:24:59 i'm in Padova Oct 21 12:25:56 there are prebuild images for spitz (slc-3000) ? Oct 21 12:29:03 gremlin[it]: http://angstrom-distribution.org -> downloads Oct 21 12:31:25 ok perfect koen, my zaurus-3000 have "still" last openzaurus ... should be better with angstrom :) Oct 21 12:31:34 RedsH, are u in Rimini ? Oct 21 12:32:33 yes Oct 21 12:35:45 RedsH, are u in the management of LinuxDay in your city? Oct 21 12:36:40 no, I will only talk about gspacesim Oct 21 12:36:59 join channel #riminilug on azzura if you want to talk with managers Oct 21 12:38:43 non just to know :) Oct 21 12:39:06 must go now cya Oct 21 13:58:36 hi Oct 21 14:32:00 gremlin[it]: so you are still working on h3600 kernel stuff? or planning to? Oct 21 14:37:31 hi bluelightning_, yes ... planing to do (again) Oct 21 14:37:52 gremlin[it]: great, excellent news :) Oct 21 14:38:15 thanks Oct 21 14:38:22 (in advance :) Oct 21 14:41:46 ok ... sincerely i stop cause i was busy and i thought about no one are still using h3600 Oct 21 14:49:57 CoreDump: did you see the thing about altboot I reffered to yesterday? Oct 21 16:45:56 hi Oct 21 16:45:57 eyguys Oct 21 16:46:00 hey guys.. even Oct 21 16:46:12 I installed angstrom on my zaurus spitz... and played around with gpe for a while Oct 21 16:46:16 then I installed an opie image... Oct 21 16:46:28 at least for me, opie is WAYYYYYYY faster than gpe, especially in terms of responsiveness Oct 21 16:46:47 I looked around on youtube for videos of gpe and it seems as though my install might have had an issue Oct 21 16:47:00 is there a way to improve responsiveness above hte default angstrom config for spitz? Oct 21 16:47:22 maybe I was using the wrong xserver or something, who knows Oct 21 16:47:50 how play sound in speaker with angstrom? Oct 21 16:48:15 any feed? Oct 21 16:50:54 piku: never tried opie, but gpe seems very responsive to me. mind you im on a terrier. Oct 21 16:51:06 tripolo: have you checked its enabled in alsamixer? Oct 21 16:51:23 yes Oct 21 16:51:30 hmmm. Oct 21 16:51:33 what parameter is? Oct 21 16:51:43 well, i guess that depends on your device. Oct 21 16:51:49 let me check on my terrier. Oct 21 16:52:23 what depends, alsa? Oct 21 16:53:39 tripolo: im not sure. it was installed by default with my angstrom image. Oct 21 16:54:17 on my zaurus, there is a "speaker function" item in alsamixer that seems to be the main speaker control, Oct 21 16:54:32 but there is actually a lot of other options you can play with in there. Oct 21 16:54:59 i see Oct 21 16:55:41 i think the "Speaker Function" one is the main one. Oct 21 16:56:04 heh ive never actually heard my speaker under angstrom. Oct 21 16:56:20 under oz it used to activate itself from time to time, but that doesnt happen anymore! :D Oct 21 16:56:30 hrh yeah it just isn't for me Oct 21 16:56:37 especially like minimo and sylpheed Oct 21 16:56:44 realllly slow Oct 21 16:56:55 minimo takes a while to load for me. Oct 21 16:56:57 ill admit that much. Oct 21 16:57:00 but once its up, Oct 21 16:57:03 its pretty usable. Oct 21 16:57:06 for instance in minimo if I start typing a url, it can take a long time for the little autocomplete window to pop up Oct 21 16:57:16 like .5 second or more Oct 21 16:57:34 in general as I navigate around it feels like X is severely slow in general on the device Oct 21 16:57:43 I wonder if there's an X that uses the pxafb overlay stuff Oct 21 16:58:29 I definitely do not care how long it takes to load minimo Oct 21 16:58:34 it's just how the apps work once they're loaded Oct 21 16:58:42 but todo/calendar, etc 10sec + to load Oct 21 16:59:21 I'm about finished with opie though, media player is broken, no aim, no mail, no browser (can't get konqueror to be stable) = useless for me Oct 21 16:59:33 they're trying but it's just not back together yet Oct 21 16:59:40 to the level that things were working on oz354 Oct 21 16:59:54 ok, now fun it :P Oct 21 17:00:25 what's the difference between x11-image and x11-pimlico-image? Oct 21 17:00:41 the pimlico one has the pimlico pim apps preinstalled Oct 21 17:00:48 and why not play .avi with mplayer? Oct 21 17:01:11 and mpg with small screen Oct 21 17:01:12 I can and do, I wrote up the instructions for how to use mplayer properly with the fbdev under opie Oct 21 17:01:30 but I want a music player of similar caliber to the sharp one Oct 21 17:01:41 beep media player just shows distorted colors for me Oct 21 17:01:49 nothing works in opie either Oct 21 17:01:51 from what I can tell Oct 21 17:03:13 I was really hoping to get frozen-bubble running too Oct 21 17:03:19 but sdl-perl won't build for reasons I can't figure out Oct 21 17:04:31 what multimedia player x11 for gpe-angstrom? Oct 21 17:04:45 for view .avi Oct 21 17:05:02 with fullscreen Oct 21 17:05:08 mplayer -vo pxa Oct 21 17:05:29 you might have to feed it a bunch of commandline options for it to work right Oct 21 17:05:41 tripolo course it matters what device you are on Oct 21 17:06:04 sl c-1000 Oct 21 17:06:11 yeah, then what I said Oct 21 17:06:17 tripolo is it slow for you at all? Oct 21 17:06:32 I wonder if the guys with older clamshells have it better because they have accelerated x11 server Oct 21 17:10:59 hi, i am tripolo Oct 21 17:11:24 i off irc accident Oct 21 17:11:45 -vo pxa with mplayer Oct 21 17:12:00 no images, only sound Oct 21 17:12:04 why Oct 21 17:12:18 francis_: the driver isnt enabled. Oct 21 17:12:30 if you do mplayer -vo help, you will see a list. Oct 21 17:12:40 im just trying them all, but so far, only x11 works for me. Oct 21 17:13:01 this is on c1000? I thought the c1ks didn't have iwmmxt? Oct 21 17:13:11 no found -vo help Oct 21 17:13:29 :( Oct 21 17:15:07 sdl gives full screen but its slow. Oct 21 17:15:11 summatusmentis: mines a 3200. Oct 21 17:15:54 HRH_H_Crab: right, but I thought tripolo/francis_ was talking about a c1000? Oct 21 17:16:05 yes Oct 21 17:16:07 yeah he is. Oct 21 17:17:11 right, so I'm pretty sure the c1000s don't have iwmmxt, and therefore, fullscreen video w/ the pxa driver doesn't work Oct 21 17:17:43 with rom of trisoft play mpg and fullscreen Oct 21 17:18:18 why with mplayer view mpg in small screen? Oct 21 17:18:34 and now you're trying to use angstrom, I assume. It's possible angstrom just doesn't have the driver yet Oct 21 17:20:15 how i see mpg in fullscreen? Oct 21 17:20:20 francis_: try the sdl driver, and hit f to make it fullscreen. Oct 21 17:20:22 that should work, Oct 21 17:20:30 but im betting it'll be quite jerky. Oct 21 17:20:32 is posible? Oct 21 17:20:44 it works for me, give it a try. Oct 21 17:21:13 where is the driver sdl? Oct 21 17:21:24 francis_: the other option is to lower the resolution quite a bit Oct 21 17:21:30 320x240 Oct 21 17:21:34 or some such thing Oct 21 17:21:38 francis_: try: "mplayer -vo sdl filename.mpg" or whatever. Oct 21 17:21:56 you might then have to tap "f" to make it go fullscreen. Oct 21 17:24:37 i see, a moment Oct 21 17:25:41 iwmmxt has nothing to do with -vo pxa Oct 21 17:26:01 koen: ? I thought pxa was the driver for iwmmxt? Oct 21 17:26:06 or am I just way off? Oct 21 17:26:09 the c1000 has a pxa270 cpu, which does have iwmmxt *and* it has the framebuffer hooked up to pxafb Oct 21 17:26:33 as opposed to my hx4700 which has a pxa270 cpu, but the framebuffer hooked to an ati w3220 Oct 21 17:28:28 ok, francis_/HRH_H_Crab: don't listen to me anymore, I have no idea what I'm talking about Oct 21 17:28:31 thanks koen Oct 21 17:28:53 ok, is fun it, thanks Oct 21 17:29:16 what keys for control volumen Oct 21 17:29:24 in mplayer? Oct 21 17:29:24 mplayer Oct 21 17:29:27 9 i think Oct 21 17:29:28 yes Oct 21 17:29:29 and maybe 0 Oct 21 17:29:48 koen: were you an SoC student? Oct 21 17:31:15 yes, 2 years ago Oct 21 17:31:33 for OE, correct? what sort of experience does one need? Oct 21 17:33:02 ok, trank very much summatusmentis Oct 21 17:33:48 work aircrack-ng in angstrom? Oct 21 17:38:24 I worked on OE, and I cheated a bit because I was a core developer at that time :) Oct 21 17:38:58 a basic knowledge of OE and the willingness to learn is pretty much all you need Oct 21 17:39:43 koen: basic as in, knowing how to set it up, and build things with it? :-) that's about the extent. I'm a freshman in school, but I'd like to do SoC this coming summer. Oct 21 17:40:31 I need to talk to mickey|away to see if we want a SoC for OE this years or combine with the openmoko people Oct 21 17:41:13 fair enough. The only devices I've got for OE are 2 zaurii, a 5500 and a 3200 Oct 21 18:03:02 hi Oct 21 20:42:06 re Oct 21 21:51:27 hi Oct 21 21:52:25 some angstrom image to collie zaurus? Oct 22 01:59:46 * STrRedWolf looks around, wondering if a kernel dev is around... trying to find out if he needs to file a bug report for a request... Oct 22 02:32:31 * STrRedWolf thinks he best file a bug on getting gspcav1 and V4L compiled in Angstrom... **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Oct 22 02:59:56 2007