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Nov 18 05:36:51 <noosphere> are 3 partitions (/dev/hda1, 2 and 3) mandatory for installing/using angstrom?
Nov 18 06:04:55 <rwhitby> noosphere: angstrom works on an nslu2 with no hard disk.
Nov 18 06:05:29 <rwhitby> (single kernel partition and single jffs2 root partition only)
Nov 18 06:06:39 <noosphere> rwhitby, i've got it working on my zaurus sl c3200 with the builtin 6 gig hdd with a single big ext3 partition
Nov 18 06:07:12 <noosphere> but i was getting a strange symptom of loging on to a blank black screen sith just an xwindows mouse cursor on it
Nov 18 06:07:49 <noosphere> watching messages during startup indicated a bunch of fails, and attempts to access /dev/hda2 and 3 (i have since cleaned up /etc/fstab)
Nov 18 06:08:13 <noosphere> symptoms went away just now when i pulled out the SD card and rebooted
Nov 18 06:08:14 <noosphere> strange
Nov 18 06:08:31 <noosphere> thought it needed the other 2 filesyystems for other stuff
Nov 18 06:08:36 <noosphere> anyways i will pres on
Nov 18 08:41:29 <cofeineSunshine> morning!
Nov 18 12:29:39 <mimecar> hi
Nov 18 12:40:58 <mimecar> koen can I save bootup messages on angstrom? I've a problem and i can't see all the messages
Nov 18 12:41:27 <mimecar> or i asj on mailing list better
Nov 18 13:28:02 <Stephmw> hmmm... device question for the C860... is there an annotated version of the maintenance menus around? Japanese is great, but I can't read it :)
Nov 18 13:34:23 <Stephmw> not to worry, found the answer :-)
Nov 18 16:05:11 <mimecar> re
Nov 18 16:06:00 <CoreDump> mimecar: tried dmesg?
Nov 18 16:06:11 <mimecar> i can't get a console
Nov 18 16:06:32 <mimecar> boot process start and freeze on x server init , i think
Nov 18 16:06:52 <CoreDump> that is indeed a proble
Nov 18 16:06:54 <CoreDump> m
Nov 18 16:07:23 <mimecar> with console image, i can boot without problems
Nov 18 16:07:41 <CoreDump> I take it that altboot is not installed?
Nov 18 16:08:21 <mimecar> I haven't install programs
Nov 18 16:09:44 <CoreDump> you could compile and flash a custom kernel with "init=/bin/sh" CMDLINE. Short of that, I see no way to debug the problem on a running system
Nov 18 16:10:38 <mimecar> i think i must recompile kernel, i'm testing console image and i've found some bugs :(
Nov 18 16:11:47 <CoreDump> debugging self-compiled images w/ working build env is more fun anyway ;)
Nov 18 16:12:18 <mimecar> i would need a hight velocity cam corder to see all the messages :)
Nov 18 16:14:07 <CoreDump> on a real PC there are key combos to freeze the output
Nov 18 16:15:18 <mimecar> CoreDump: what should be fixed first? problems on console (SD driver, power on without press power on button) or related with x11?
Nov 18 16:16:19 <CoreDump> There are  no rules for that. Work on whatever you like, ignore the stuff you hate ;)
Nov 18 16:16:28 <mimecar> xDD
Nov 18 16:17:35 <mimecar> if i plug in battery on my collie, it stars without pressing buttons xD
Nov 18 16:18:20 <mimecar> I must go out some minutes, see you later
Nov 18 16:27:34 <dcordes> mimecar-away, did you try fn+left on x-freeze?
Nov 18 16:57:38 <mimecar> hi dcordes
Nov 18 16:57:58 <mimecar> on x-freeze i have console messages only
Nov 18 17:00:09 <CoreDump> you could hack the .jffs2 and remove the X11 init script before flashing
Nov 18 17:00:35 <mimecar> that's an option
Nov 18 17:00:55 <mimecar> i'm going to work on console image first
Nov 18 17:01:14 <mimecar> zaurus must be power on on key press only
Nov 18 17:05:00 <mimecar> hi lumag
Nov 18 17:05:16 <mimecar> CoreDump: what's sanity test ?
Nov 18 17:05:23 <CoreDump> ?
Nov 18 17:05:35 <CoreDump> in OE?
Nov 18 17:05:38 <mimecar> i get that message when i'm compiling angstrom
Nov 18 17:05:53 <CoreDump> well, a safeguard against crappy code and common user errors
Nov 18 17:06:22 <mimecar> i get some errors on kernel compilation
Nov 18 17:07:46 <lumag> hi mimecar
Nov 18 17:08:55 <lumag> hi koen
Nov 18 17:09:12 <koen> hey lumag 
Nov 18 17:50:42 <dcordes> hi lumag 
Nov 18 17:51:44 <lumag> hi dcordes
Nov 18 19:20:39 <mimecar> re
Nov 18 21:43:59 <CoreDump> where is laibsch when one needs him
Nov 18 21:46:29 <Crofton> hmm, the OSK console image attempted to open /dev/fb0
Nov 18 21:53:58 <dcordes> CoreDump, didn't see him in a while
Nov 18 21:54:12 <CoreDump> he just came on
Nov 18 21:58:05 <lumag> !seen laibsch
Nov 18 21:58:06 <cdbot2> Laibsch (n=Laibsch@ip-62-143-227-114.1411N-CUD12K-01.ish.de) was last seen joining #opie.de 7 minutes ago. Laibsch is still on #opie.de.
Nov 18 21:58:26 <lumag> bye all!
Nov 18 22:03:07 <dcordes> !join #gpe
Nov 18 22:03:12 <dcordes> oops
Nov 18 22:03:42 <CoreDump> hmm you want #gpe-project
Nov 18 22:03:52 <CoreDump> #gpe is the enemy ;)
Nov 18 22:03:56 <dcordes> I noticed gpe motd says hh stuff
Nov 18 22:09:09 * CoreDump notes that his "friends" are still on the banlist and grins
Nov 18 22:09:46 <dcordes> friends=hh(tm) people?
Nov 18 22:09:54 <CoreDump> yes
Nov 18 22:13:10 <dcordes> it's not good to commercialize oss
Nov 18 22:28:22 <Crofton> It's fine to commercilize OSS, just don't be an ass about it to the community
Nov 18 23:23:38 <noosphere> how would one configure GPE to display the mouse cursor?
Nov 18 23:36:27 <CoreDump> you'd have to edit an xsession.d script
Nov 18 23:38:21 <CoreDump> but it is annoying on systems w/ touchscreen
Nov 18 23:39:03 <noosphere> CoreDump, thanks will check it out. I want to use synergy with my terrier... works, but cant see the mouse
Nov 18 23:39:14 <noosphere> be great to be ablt to toggle it.
Nov 18 23:44:36 <CoreDump> yeah
Nov 18 23:44:45 <CoreDump> you could probably write a script
Nov 18 23:45:37 <noosphere> gota figure out how to turn the mose on first :) googling... /etc/X11/Xsession.d/ looks kinda sysv init-like
Nov 18 23:45:55 <noosphere> will write one in python once I get toggling working manually
Nov 18 23:46:37 <CoreDump> Xinit.d/* is run when gpe-dm launches, Xsession.d/* is run when the matchbox session starts
Nov 18 23:47:28 <CoreDump> ironically my image is missing the hide-cursor scripts
Nov 18 23:48:40 <noosphere> right, so the cursor drawing is related to matchbox. googling :)
Nov 18 23:49:37 <CoreDump> last time I checked we just loaded a transparent cursor theme ;)
Nov 18 23:50:09 <noosphere> found a forum thread related to transparent  cursor themes
Nov 18 23:50:14 <noosphere> might make it tricker to toggle
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