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Nov 22 06:14:15 <lumag> morning!
Nov 22 06:28:10 <eekee> *murgle* morning, lol
Nov 22 08:27:40 <hvontres|home> ping koen 
Nov 22 08:27:44 <hvontres|home> koen: ping
Nov 22 08:29:29 <koen> pong
Nov 22 08:30:44 <hvontres|home> koen: could you have the autobuilder re-build the poodle kernel image with the latest gcc-4.1.2? I think that might fix bug #3351. Thanks
Nov 22 08:31:18 <koen> hvontres|home: bump PR for the kernel and that happens automagically :)
Nov 22 08:31:40 <hvontres|home> koen: I would need comit acces for that :)
Nov 22 08:32:05 <koen> which recipe needs bumping?
Nov 22 08:32:25 <hvontres|home> koen: linux-rp_2.6.23
Nov 22 08:32:43 <koen> and send your monotone key to mickeyl and me so we can discuss giving you access
Nov 22 08:33:01 <hvontres|home> koen: ok.
Nov 22 08:34:08 <koen> hvontres|home: PR bumped, the autobuilder should pick it up later today or tomorrow
Nov 22 08:34:17 <koen> hvontres|home: your ssh key should also work
Nov 22 08:34:19 <hvontres|home> koen: thanks
Nov 22 08:34:32 <hx2k> hi all!
Nov 22 08:34:42 <hx2k> koen, hello!
Nov 22 09:33:17 <rob_w|laptop> hey koen , would you like to give any news about avr32 support on angstrom.. last time i tryed the glibc broke not knowing about linux-avr32-angstrom 
Nov 22 09:33:40 <koen> rob_w|laptop: again: what makes you think glibc supports avr32?
Nov 22 09:34:31 <rob_w|laptop> koen, my simply understanding .. i am not that guru to know 
Nov 22 09:34:52 <rob_w|laptop> koen,  whats the story behind it ?
Nov 22 09:35:09 <koen> avr32 only supports uclibc
Nov 22 09:35:15 <koen> so it's expect for glibc to fail
Nov 22 09:35:22 <rob_w|laptop> ah i see 
Nov 22 10:08:21 <vanguard> Which command let me list or read my private messages on here ?
Nov 22 10:12:39 <veritanuda> Morning all...
Nov 22 10:13:06 <veritanuda> Anyone having issues compiling Angstrom via the latest OE set?
Nov 22 10:13:27 <veritanuda> mybuild is failing and I cannot figure out what is broken
Nov 22 10:16:01 <veritanuda> /mnt/OE/build/tmp/work/armv5te-angstrom-
Nov 22 10:16:02 <veritanuda> linux-gnueabi/gcc-cross-initial-4.2.2-r1/gcc-4.2.2/libiberty/regex.c -o regex.o
Nov 22 10:16:02 <veritanuda> /mnt/OE/build/tmp/work/armv5te-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/gcc-cross-initial-4.2.2-r1/gcc-4.2.2/libiberty/regex.c:51:25: error: sys/types.h: No suc
Nov 22 10:16:02 <veritanuda> h file or directory
Nov 22 10:16:12 <veritanuda> ring any bells?
Nov 22 10:17:50 <veritanuda> Hellooooo?
Nov 22 10:17:56 <veritanuda> no chatter at all?
Nov 22 10:18:15 <veritanuda> Seems a bit on on channel with 20+ users?
Nov 22 10:18:36 <XorA> :-)
Nov 22 10:19:01 * XorA doesnt recognise that error
Nov 22 10:20:50 <magnet_> hi
Nov 22 10:21:39 <antvr689> veritanuda: did you pull monotone yesterday?
Nov 22 10:21:54 <antvr689> veritanuda: BUG 3346 solved on 21th nov
Nov 22 10:22:01 <veritanuda> yes. 
Nov 22 10:22:14 <veritanuda> ahhh so fixed today huh?
Nov 22 10:22:29 <veritanuda> I am in the UK.. so slightly ahead of you guys
Nov 22 10:22:54 <veritanuda> ok Let me pull the new db and update the branches see what happens :)
Nov 22 10:22:55 <veritanuda> Cheers
Nov 22 10:22:56 <antvr689> veritanuda: hoe is the same bug...dunno
Nov 22 10:23:03 <antvr689> s/hoe/hope/g
Nov 22 10:23:15 <veritanuda> yeah me too :)
Nov 22 10:26:00 <antvr689> veritanuda: look at this bug : is not yet closed .. sorry
Nov 22 10:26:09 <antvr689> BUG 3356
Nov 22 10:26:30 <antvr689> oops...3346 sorry I have to do multitasking here eh eh
Nov 22 10:27:26 <XorA> 3346 looks nothing like a missing file problem
Nov 22 10:29:29 <veritanuda> antvr689,  Yes that looks like it could be it 
Nov 22 10:29:42 <antvr689> XorA: yet was just the last one I could find for gcc-cross
Nov 22 10:30:26 <veritanuda> antvr689: Well I am pulling it now and will try again .. soon see :)
Nov 22 11:16:43 <antvr> veritanuda: did gcc-cross build?
Nov 22 11:17:22 <veritanuda> antvr: Dunno. I had to clean the entire build tree and start again.. there were inconsitancies :(
Nov 22 11:17:57 <antvr> veritanuda: I know, there have been a lot of changes lately!
Nov 22 11:18:05 <veritanuda> antvr: task 141 of 3733 qemu-native atm.
Nov 22 11:18:20 <antvr> veritanoda: ah, the big suxxer !
Nov 22 11:18:26 <veritanuda> gpe-image ;)
Nov 22 11:18:37 <antvr> veritanuda: needs gcc3.x
Nov 22 11:18:50 <veritanuda> antvr: gpe image I am building.. yup I got that using debian..
Nov 22 11:19:45 <veritanuda> antvr: was going so well yesterday until the sqlite problem happened :P
Nov 22 11:20:04 <veritanuda> antvr: and i thought that update would make it better (lol)
Nov 22 11:20:16 <antvr> veritanuda: btw I hate gpe now...90% of applets are broken
Nov 22 11:21:02 <antvr> veritanuda: IMHO is not well mantained
Nov 22 11:21:38 <antvr> veritanuda: but his is the flaw of all linux distro: the wrappers
Nov 22 11:22:04 <antvr> veritanuda: I always end up editing the config files manually !
Nov 22 11:27:31 <veritanuda> antvr: Oh.. well what do you use.. I only picked it because it the one I got working on my ipaq..
Nov 22 11:30:15 <antvr> veritanuda: I think gpe was created for the ipaq...I'm on Zaursu
Nov 22 11:30:49 <antvr> veritanuda: perhaps works better on ipaq machines...
Nov 22 11:32:23 <antvr> all: have to go, see ya
Nov 22 11:35:19 <veritanuda> Aww crap .. failed still :(
Nov 22 11:38:04 <lumag|gone> hi!
Nov 22 11:39:04 <lardman> veritanuda: I have that feeling too
Nov 22 11:40:26 <veritanuda> lardman: it is the gcc-cross-initial that is failing to build.. looks like the include path is screwed or there are missing paths.
Nov 22 11:40:41 <veritanuda> lardman: but I am new to this tree would not know where to look
Nov 22 11:42:13 <lardman> veritanuda: can you give an url to the do_configure log file?
Nov 22 11:42:37 <lardman> Or is it the build that's failing? In which case that and the do_build log file
Nov 22 11:42:53 <veritanuda> umm can try.. or you want me to pastebin it?
Nov 22 11:43:04 <lardman> it'll be huge
Nov 22 11:43:27 <veritanuda> lardman: heeh I spose..
Nov 22 11:43:34 <veritanuda> ok give me a few mins ok?
Nov 22 11:43:39 <lardman> np
Nov 22 11:46:21 <lardman> morning koen
Nov 22 11:46:41 <koen> hey lardman 
Nov 22 11:48:07 <lardman> did you see Mickeyl's post - I think that was what you told me yesterday, unless I misunderstood him completely
Nov 22 11:54:02 <koen> mickeyl needs some reading glasses :)
Nov 22 11:54:15 <lardman> lol
Nov 22 11:56:06 <veritanuda> lardman: try this http://mirafiori.demon.co.uk/oe/log.do_compile.7861
Nov 22 11:56:58 <lardman> reading
Nov 22 11:57:02 <veritanuda> lardman: awww shit.. you know what I just thought might be an issue?
Nov 22 11:57:11 <lardman> go for it
Nov 22 11:57:25 <veritanuda> I am symlinking /mnt/OE to /usr/src/OE
Nov 22 11:57:33 <XorA> veritanuda: yeah that wont work
Nov 22 11:57:41 <veritanuda> lardman: it did before ;)
Nov 22 11:57:53 <lardman> :) easy as that, I just look and XorA answers :)
Nov 22 11:57:58 <veritanuda> lardman:  but dammit.. too many changes :P
Nov 22 11:58:19 <XorA> veritanuda: use a bind mount instead
Nov 22 11:58:22 <veritanuda> XorA: sorry.. :) 
Nov 22 11:58:40 <veritanuda> XorA: Yeah should have thought of that first time around.. 
Nov 22 11:58:48 <XorA> but there is no reason OE has to be in /mnt/OE
Nov 22 11:58:49 <veritanuda> ok give me 2 mins we'll see 
Nov 22 11:59:05 <veritanuda> Is for me.. it is on an external Disk :P
Nov 22 12:00:20 <XorA> veritanuda: well there is no reason it has to be in /usr/src/OE then
Nov 22 12:00:23 * koen hears 'symlink'
Nov 22 12:01:42 <veritanuda> XorA: heheh .. well where do you suggest to put it?
Nov 22 12:02:49 <XorA> veritanuda: just use it in /mtn/OE
Nov 22 12:03:29 <XorA> veritanuda: in fact in /usr is a bad idea, as you can end up clashing accidently with bad autoconf scripts
Nov 22 12:03:44 <veritanuda> XorA: ahhh yeah.. good point ..;) Though a bind mount failed too.. hang on
Nov 22 12:04:20 <veritanuda> XorA: Actually yeah.. now I come to remember it there was some stuff a while back which said not under any circumstances to compile under /usr
Nov 22 12:04:38 <veritanuda> XorA: can't remember what that was though. No Oe.
Nov 22 12:04:49 <XorA> veritanuda: it used to say that in OE wiki
Nov 22 12:05:12 <XorA> veritanuda: as it can cause problems with some of the QA checking, not sure if thats still the case, anyway avoid /usr
Nov 22 12:06:21 <veritanuda> XorA: crap it will mean cleaning my tree all over again though ;)
Nov 22 12:06:29 <veritanuda> XorA: ok lemme try that..
Nov 22 12:07:19 <lardman> it would be good if you could clean the tmp dir but leave the native tools that aren't affected by the local.conf
Nov 22 12:07:43 <lardman> I suppose install them natively and do assume_provided or similar
Nov 22 12:21:35 <veritanuda> lardman: Yeah would be great , but guess I'll just have to do it the long way around ;) nothing new.
Nov 22 12:28:36 <lardman> I've did probably 30 builds yesterday to try different options, gets annoying in the end to see all the same native stuff built again and again :)
Nov 22 13:11:28 <veritanuda> £$£R$"£ " Fck!!! Still same problem :(
Nov 22 13:14:52 <hrw> lardman: I built all native ones and backup for next builds
Nov 22 13:15:06 <hrw> but now I just build them everytime
Nov 22 13:15:16 <hrw> but most of my builds are during night
Nov 22 13:22:36 <lardman> hrw: yeah, it doesn't take that much time really, just when you watch it :)
Nov 22 13:23:14 <lardman> I really need a build box, I need to use WinXP on my PC for work so precludes much hacking during the day :(
Nov 22 13:27:31 <hrw> or connect from work to home machine
Nov 22 13:30:27 <veritanuda> lardman: Any ideas? Still failing on gcc-cross-initial :(
Nov 22 13:30:45 <veritanuda> lardman: opps just realised the time.. going for lunch bbs
Nov 22 13:34:31 <lardman> hrw: I'm working from home
Nov 22 13:37:30 <lardman> veritanuda: Perhaps, I saw something like this day before yesterday when trying Poky, include files from libc-includes are installed somewhere ( staging/include iirc) but GCC was looking for them elsewhere ( cross/usr/include iirc). I had a symlink missing between the two.
Nov 22 13:37:54 <lardman> veritanuda: I've not seen it with OE builds though, and didn't manually add the symlink
Nov 22 13:42:10 <hrw> ah
Nov 22 13:51:28 <veritanuda> lardman: hmm
Nov 22 13:51:58 <veritanuda> lardman: well it is definatly looking in the wrong place Iguess .. is it worth manually editing the make files?
Nov 22 13:53:19 <XorA> bollox why is xserver-kdrive now fscked in angstrom
Nov 22 13:54:27 <veritanuda> XorA: Lord knows.. ;) Someone idea of a joke no? 
Nov 22 13:54:49 <veritanuda> XorA: Still no luck with my build.. no symlinks in sight..
Nov 22 13:55:36 <veritanuda> XorA: Looks like it is a open bug though 3218
Nov 22 13:57:27 <lardman> no idea veritanuda, but my build certainly has a symlink in there to share the include files
Nov 22 13:57:47 <lardman> though I can't check quite where atm as I'm duel booted to WinXP
Nov 22 13:58:12 <lardman> s/duel/dual - I'm sure Linux would win a duel
Nov 22 14:00:46 <veritanuda> lardman: should have installed e2fsexplorer or whatever it is called these days :)
Nov 22 14:03:09 <lardman> ah, I actually have that installed now you mention it
Nov 22 14:03:11 <lardman> hang on
Nov 22 14:03:35 <Stephmw> koen: btw, fresh news today... the iphone hackers are close to overtaking woglinde & co. http://gnu.wildebeest.org/diary/2007/11/22/free-your-iphone/
Nov 22 14:04:22 <lardman> tmp/cross/arm-angstrom-linux.include is a symlink to tmp/staging/arm-angstrom-linux/include/
Nov 22 14:04:58 <koen> Stephmw: I still don't know what the holdup is againt getting roberts stuff in :(
Nov 22 14:05:03 <lardman> tmp/cross/arm-angstrom-linux/include that should have read
Nov 22 14:06:52 <veritanuda> oh that is interesting.
Nov 22 14:07:11 <Stephmw> koen: wonder if they've refocused on CACAO instead of JamVM?
Nov 22 14:07:22 * koen has no idea
Nov 22 14:07:33 <XorA> 2007.1 release is going badly :-(
Nov 22 14:08:09 <Stephmw> what's up?
Nov 22 14:08:20 * Stephmw isn't keeping track atm :(
Nov 22 14:08:21 <veritanuda> lardman: hmm it seems it is already 
Nov 22 14:08:26 <veritanuda> lardman: include -> /mnt/OE/build/tmp/staging/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/include/
Nov 22 14:09:24 <lardman> veritanuda: something in Poky wanted to look for include files in ...../usr/include
Nov 22 14:09:31 <lardman> which didn't exist
Nov 22 14:10:03 <veritanuda> lardman: what is poky? btw?
Nov 22 14:10:24 <lardman> best thing to do is find out where the include files you need are and work from there, see if one of the include paths for gcc-initial has no files in it or doesn't exist, etc.
Nov 22 14:11:25 <lardman> veritanuda: http://www.pokylinux.org/ it uses OE too so I was giving it a try on the off chance some of the metadata were different. I didn't get far  
Nov 22 14:11:39 <veritanuda> lardman: I see.. 
Nov 22 14:11:55 <veritanuda> lardman: then is does look like OE has an issue them.. 
Nov 22 14:12:31 <veritanuda> lardman:  well the bug looked like 3218 to me..
Nov 22 14:12:35 <lardman> perhaps for your specific setup
Nov 22 14:12:45 <veritanuda> lardman: which is still open it seems?
Nov 22 14:13:11 <lardman> dunno, though I should look at the bugtracker for my problems too
Nov 22 14:16:13 <lardman> off to work now, back online in a bit
Nov 22 14:21:11 <magnet_> which version of bitbake do you use guy ? 1.8.4 or 1.8.8 ?
Nov 22 14:37:25 <lardman> magnet_: me?
Nov 22 14:42:50 <magnet_> I should have said 'guys', this include you yea :)
Nov 22 14:44:19 <XorA> 1.8.8
Nov 22 14:44:20 <Stephmw> I've got 1.8.8
Nov 22 14:44:21 <lardman> the latest I imagine, whatever svn co svn://svn.berlios.de/bitbake/branches/bitbake-1.8/ bitbake gives you
Nov 22 14:44:30 <XorA> everyone should be using 1.8.8
Nov 22 14:44:47 <magnet_> ok. that the one I use too, so that good.
Nov 22 14:45:42 <magnet_> I got monotone 0.36 which segfault while checking out :\
Nov 22 14:46:01 <magnet_> even pull segfault.
Nov 22 16:08:42 <magnet_> does anyone tried to rebuild a angstrom image for zaurus with uclibc ?
Nov 22 16:09:21 <koen> just add ANGSTROM_MODE="uclibc" to your local.conf
Nov 22 16:09:49 <magnet_> it's possible to build x11-image orso with this ?
Nov 22 16:10:08 <koen> yes
Nov 22 16:10:14 <magnet_> very nice.
Nov 22 16:12:07 <magnet_> thanks for the information koen.
Nov 22 16:14:22 <lumag> bye!
Nov 22 22:10:10 <mimecar> hi
Nov 22 23:14:12 <lardman> anyone about?
Nov 22 23:14:27 <lardman> can one obtain old snapshots of the OE data?
Nov 22 23:14:45 <CoreDump> you can checkout old revisions, yes
Nov 22 23:14:50 <lardman> s/data/metadata
Nov 22 23:15:04 <lardman> CoreDump: ah, good, thanks
Nov 22 23:15:21 <lardman> CoreDump: Is there a list/anyway of knowing the date of a given revision?
Nov 22 23:15:39 <CoreDump> that I do no know
Nov 22 23:15:51 <CoreDump> you could check "mt log"
Nov 22 23:16:01 <lardman> ok, I'll have a look at that
Nov 22 23:18:10 <CoreDump> lardman: that's how rwhitby's MokoMakefile does it: http://rafb.net/p/HBi03z10.html
Nov 22 23:20:22 <lardman> CoreDump: okay, thanks
Nov 22 23:20:31 <CoreDump> np
Nov 22 23:20:43 <lardman> I don't suppose you happen to know whether any of the supported machines still use oabi?
Nov 22 23:20:51 <lardman> and gcc<4
Nov 22 23:20:53 <CoreDump> no idea
Nov 22 23:20:58 <lardman> np
Nov 22 23:21:11 <lardman> I was browsing the conf directory today looking for other ideas
Nov 23 01:58:22 <carbonfreeze> anyone have a recent updater.sh.spitz? I'm getting a 403 error on the autobuild images updater.sh.spitz, and the size appears to be different from last spitz mentor uploaded image (but I can't check md5 because autobuild does not list mdtsums for spitz)
Nov 23 02:02:17 <CoreDump> carbonfreeze: hold on
Nov 23 02:05:05 <CoreDump> carbonfreeze: http://hentges.net/tmp/snapshots/Sonkei/0.0.1/20071118/spitz/
Nov 23 02:07:00 <carbonfreeze> CoreDump: Thanks. Should I file a bug on the bugtracker for the file permissions or mail the angstrom-dev list?
Nov 23 02:07:21 <CoreDump> ideally you'd create a bug report
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