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Nov 29 03:47:42 <Zeroth404> anyone working on Collie support?
Nov 29 08:02:24 <hrw> morning
Nov 29 08:11:51 <hvontres|home> hrw: morning
Nov 29 08:12:21 <hvontres|home> see yall in a couple of hours.
Nov 29 08:12:25 * hvontres|home goes to bed
Nov 29 15:30:18 <hvontres|work> koen: I think for now we should release the poodle with linux-rp-2.6.17. Do you want this set in angstrom2007.1.conf or in angstrom2007-prefered-versions.inc ?
Nov 29 15:30:56 <koen> There's precedence for angstrom2007.1.conf
Nov 29 15:31:21 <koen> but can't it be solved with default_preference in the recipes itself?
Nov 29 15:32:06 <hvontres|work> koen: it probably could.
Nov 29 15:32:55 <hvontres|work> koen: I just figured setting it at the distro level would cause less confusion later on 
Nov 29 15:34:47 <koen> hvontres|work: well I'm sort-of on strike for angstrom
Nov 29 15:35:05 <koen> I'm waiting for the rest of the coreteam to do stuff
Nov 29 15:36:27 <hvontres|work> koen: hehe... Well, in this case, I was just trying to get your opinion on stuff, I'll submit a bug later when I have stuff sorted out a bit
Nov 29 15:36:41 * hvontres|work goes back to work
Nov 29 15:37:09 * koen is happy that RFCs finally seem to work
Nov 29 15:42:50 <theopulus> Hello there
Nov 29 15:44:22 <theopulus> I'm having some trouble using QEmu with an Angstrom distro I've bitbaked
Nov 29 15:45:43 <theopulus> Is there anybody out there?
Nov 29 15:46:50 * CoreDump is there bug can't help w/ QEmu
Nov 29 15:48:11 <theopulus> ?
Nov 29 15:48:23 <theopulus> ah, understood
Nov 29 15:48:33 <theopulus> thanks CoreDump
Nov 29 15:49:35 <hvontres|work> koen: Recipie pref works just fine.
Nov 29 15:50:01 <theopulus> Well, maybe you can help anyway. The problem is that Angstrom keeps closing X session and returning to log in screen
Nov 29 15:50:22 <theopulus> I've removed settings from .gpe, but nothing changed
Nov 29 15:50:47 <CoreDump> ahh
Nov 29 15:51:03 <CoreDump> well, sounds like matchbox is crashing on you
Nov 29 15:51:34 <theopulus> well, and what can I do?
Nov 29 15:53:07 <CoreDump> find out why it is crashing? Might be a quemu problem for all I know
Nov 29 15:53:45 <theopulus> it's not good news, then
Nov 29 15:54:54 <hrw> or remove keylaunch
Nov 29 15:55:22 <theopulus> keylaunch?
Nov 29 16:02:30 <vanguard> hi all
Nov 29 16:03:03 <vanguard> dcordes: Do you remenber, I told about crashes with ipkg upgrade ?
Nov 29 16:03:47 <vanguard> I have got a new information about this. This happens only, when running in a shell with X.
Nov 29 16:04:15 <vanguard> So it might be a timing problem. (race condition ??)
Nov 29 16:05:09 <vanguard> I cannot report this as a bug, for I found no responsible package for this behaviour. But I can give a workaround !
Nov 29 16:06:20 <vanguard> Here it is: Logout to the login-window, then FN + left to get to the shell. And yes: here it is everything working fine.
Nov 29 16:11:13 <theopulus> Another question: Can anyone explain me how can be added MIP6 support to a qemuarm Angstrom compilation?
Nov 29 16:11:45 <theopulus> I'm working on a project that needs mobility support on a Linux device
Nov 29 16:12:17 <theopulus> And we're testing at first with QEmu
Nov 29 16:37:29 <theopulus> so... How can I make MIPL patch to be applied? 
Nov 29 16:37:52 <theopulus> I've seen some machines that hace MIP6 configuration on defconfig file
Nov 29 16:38:01 <theopulus> But qemuarm doesn't
Nov 29 16:49:52 <theopulus> If I just add MIP6 options into defconfig file, will it add support to it (I mean, will be able to launch mip6d daemon??)
Nov 29 16:56:24 <theopulus> Well, try again any other day
Nov 29 18:12:10 <gmad> hello
Nov 29 18:13:00 <gmad> anybody's here?
Nov 29 18:13:40 <XorA> nope
Nov 29 18:15:32 <gmad> I ve got question about Angstrom and cacko
Nov 29 18:19:01 <XorA> ut oh
Nov 29 18:21:51 <gmad> I like cacko on my c1000, but I would like to use distr with 2.6 kernel and gtk software, may I use Angstrom?
Nov 29 18:30:15 <gmad> I've allready installed Angstrom and booting system I get Kernel panic
Nov 29 18:30:27 <gmad> is there anybody to help?
Nov 29 18:35:30 <Zero_Chaos> gmad: angstrom is nearing release but we just got ourselves an official c1000 maintainer so it may be a bit behind
Nov 29 18:35:47 <Zero_Chaos> gmad: you may wish to wait until we make a release if you want to use the device as intended.
Nov 29 18:35:55 <gmad> ok
Nov 29 18:36:10 <gmad> may I ask you about cacko?
Nov 29 18:36:44 <Zero_Chaos> no, this isn't a cacko channel
Nov 29 18:36:51 <Zero_Chaos> you can't ask for Microsoft office help either
Nov 29 18:37:08 <gmad> I need 2gb sd driver
Nov 29 18:37:26 <Zero_Chaos> angstrom certainly has that, at least I presume so because I use a 4GB driver
Nov 29 18:38:32 <gmad> and for that reason I'd like to use angstrom
Nov 29 18:38:53 <gmad> but I have kernel panicafter flashing
Nov 29 18:39:46 <Zero_Chaos> gmad: and like I said, you are using an UNSTABLE release... I know this, because there is no stable release.
Nov 29 18:40:11 <Zero_Chaos> gmad: we will make a release shortly, you can either relax, or become a developer.  Check the topic, this is a developer channel
Nov 29 18:40:49 <gmad> sorry, maybe I am not polite but it doesn't work at all
Nov 29 18:41:03 <Zero_Chaos> gmad: really? Well check your warrenty
Nov 29 18:41:10 <hvontres|work> Zero_Chaos: did you ever get your Z to boot again?
Nov 29 18:41:53 <gmad> with angstrom?
Nov 29 18:41:58 <Zero_Chaos> hvontres|work: um... no.  But I don't think it is broken anymore, I can get the boot loader and flash, I think the nand image I had is the suck.  I just need someone to tell me a working image so I can test.  (I don't think my images work but I'm not troubleshooting that till I know the device isn't dead)
Nov 29 18:42:13 <Zero_Chaos> gmad: yes, check your Angstrom Warrenty
Nov 29 18:43:48 <Zero_Chaos> hvontres|work: was that guy an idiot or am I really that big of an asshole? Seriously, I was trying to be helpful and he seemed... dense...
Nov 29 18:44:36 <hvontres|work> Zero_Chaos: ahh, he's nothing... we had that guy Cyorxamp last year...boy was he a piece of work
Nov 29 18:45:16 <hvontres|work> ~seen Cyorxamp
Nov 29 18:46:00 <hvontres|work> Zero_Chaos: hey, at least he didn't run into koen :)
Nov 29 18:46:39 <Zero_Chaos> hvontres|work: yeah but if koen thinks I am an ass then does that make me a super ass?
Nov 29 18:46:48 <Zero_Chaos> :-)
Nov 29 18:47:51 <hvontres|work> Zero_Chaos: no, it means you have a pulse :)
Nov 29 18:48:19 <Zero_Chaos> heh
Nov 29 18:48:31 <Zero_Chaos> hrw|gone: PING
Nov 29 18:48:54 <hvontres|work> actually, he's seems to have gotten a bit more mellow lately
Nov 29 18:49:32 <Zero_Chaos> hvontres|work: I swear he has a specific distain for me.
Nov 29 19:11:02 <mimecar> hi
Nov 29 19:16:51 * summatusmentis is setting up ubuntu, then OE in a vm :-D
Nov 29 19:17:28 <mimecar> ubuntu, buuu :P
Nov 29 19:17:44 <hvontres|work> summatusmentis: ubuntu in vm on mac?
Nov 29 19:18:17 <hvontres|work> mimecar: hey, some of us aren't l33t enough for debian :)
Nov 29 19:18:44 <mimecar> enough crazy, I know
Nov 29 19:19:03 <mimecar> if you can choose your distro, use distro makes yourself happier
Nov 29 19:19:56 <mimecar> somebody with c3200 ?
Nov 29 19:20:44 <summatusmentis> hvontres|work: yeah, you now it
Nov 29 19:21:09 <summatusmentis> mimecar: i want it because it's easy to setup, I just want to get something up, so I can get to the important part
Nov 29 19:21:18 <summatusmentis> mimecar: I've got a 3200
Nov 29 19:21:20 <HRH_H_Crab> mimecar: yep
Nov 29 19:21:20 <mimecar> that's true
Nov 29 19:21:28 <mimecar> I love reinstalling debian 
Nov 29 19:21:37 <mimecar> it's the same sensation as windows
Nov 29 19:22:02 <mimecar> summatusmentis: have you worked with fdisk ?
Nov 29 19:22:40 <summatusmentis> sort of, what are you trying to do, parition the drive?
Nov 29 19:23:23 <mimecar> it's a question on OZ channel
Nov 29 19:23:29 <mimecar> puckman: summatusmentis has a c3200
Nov 29 19:23:35 <summatusmentis> I'm not in the oz channel
Nov 29 19:23:53 <summatusmentis> kinda stopped doing that, since it's not supported anymore
Nov 29 19:23:54 <puckman> cool
Nov 29 19:24:04 <mimecar> it's a problem with fdisk
Nov 29 19:24:12 <puckman> i'm getting there now
Nov 29 19:24:12 <mimecar> not related with openzaurus or other roms
Nov 29 19:24:14 <puckman> found someone
Nov 29 19:24:34 <summatusmentis> fair enough
Nov 29 19:25:17 <summatusmentis> ugh... I forgot, my 3200 doesn't work right now... I tried to upgrade a bunch of stuff, and now when X starts, I just get a cursor on a black screen
Nov 29 19:25:36 <mimecar> summatusmentis: there was a problem with matchbox
Nov 29 19:25:48 <summatusmentis> fixed? do you know?
Nov 29 19:25:51 <mimecar> have you update your database for monotone?
Nov 29 19:26:01 <mimecar> a week ago more or less
Nov 29 19:26:04 <summatusmentis> I was just using the official feeds
Nov 29 19:26:34 <mimecar> I don't know if it's upgrade on image
Nov 29 19:26:37 <puckman> i got my 3200 from ebay
Nov 29 19:26:55 <mimecar> puckman: you can install angstrom on your handheld
Nov 29 19:26:55 <puckman> guy put some linux on it but as I'm learning i wanted to start from scratch
Nov 29 19:27:11 <puckman> so restore the whole thing to factory settings, play with that and then upgrade to other roms
Nov 29 19:27:15 <puckman> learn along the way
Nov 29 19:27:57 <mimecar> www.angstrom-distribution.org
Nov 29 19:28:03 <mimecar> you can read doc and wiki
Nov 29 19:28:23 <puckman> ah thanks
Nov 29 19:28:31 <puckman> is angstrom nice?
Nov 29 19:28:41 <puckman> the guy i bought it from installed pdax something
Nov 29 19:28:43 <summatusmentis> I like it, when it's not dying because of matchbox :-D
Nov 29 19:28:44 <mimecar> it's on process and it has some bugs
Nov 29 19:28:46 <puckman> which was ugly and slow as fucl
Nov 29 19:28:56 <mimecar> but it'd interesting
Nov 29 19:29:13 <mimecar> summatusmentis: my version is very stable
Nov 29 19:29:24 <mimecar> more or less, it's from october 15
Nov 29 19:29:42 <summatusmentis> mimecar: any idea what version the fixed version is?
Nov 29 19:30:18 <mimecar> no idea
Nov 29 19:30:31 <mimecar> can you boot from console and update?
Nov 29 19:31:08 <summatusmentis> I'm not sure if the USB driver for OS X is working yet
Nov 29 19:31:52 <mimecar> CF wifi ?
Nov 29 19:33:09 <summatusmentis> yeah, but bad signal :-)
Nov 29 19:33:39 <puckman> hey guys, how do I mount the CF card and copy files to my new fresh partitions?
Nov 29 19:34:06 <mimecar> what's you want do ?
Nov 29 19:34:11 <summatusmentis> puckman: which files?
Nov 29 19:35:59 <puckman> the standard stuff that should be on there
Nov 29 19:36:07 <puckman> i had an erased hd
Nov 29 19:36:11 <mimecar> of angstrom ?
Nov 29 19:36:21 <puckman> naa, original 
Nov 29 19:36:36 <puckman> I just reflashed it with the original japanes sharp rom
Nov 29 19:37:01 <puckman> I need to copy back the items that are in the SLC3100SYSPART zip
Nov 29 19:37:34 <mimecar> mount /dev/device /media/folder
Nov 29 19:37:42 <mimecar> you must know your cf device
Nov 29 19:38:06 <puckman> as in the name of the card?
Nov 29 19:38:18 <mimecar> cat /proc/partitions
Nov 29 19:38:23 <mimecar> and search on google
Nov 29 19:38:36 <mimecar> summatusmentis: did you wanted be a maintener for sl5500?
Nov 29 19:42:17 <summatusmentis> mimecar: I've been thinking about it
Nov 29 19:42:30 <summatusmentis> I'd heard you were working the 5500 as well
Nov 29 19:43:00 <mimecar> yes
Nov 29 19:44:41 <puckman> hmmm, when I try to mount to media/folder I get no such file or directory
Nov 29 19:44:55 <puckman> I did find that my CF card is seen as hdc1
Nov 29 19:45:06 <summatusmentis> mimecar: were you planning on maintaining it?
Nov 29 19:45:19 <summatusmentis> I was just thinking about it, because I don't want it to go by the wayside
Nov 29 19:45:58 <summatusmentis> is there anyone here forwarding internet via wifi from OS X?
Nov 29 19:46:06 <puckman> yeah me
Nov 29 19:46:34 <puckman> You mean sharing my ethernet internet connection via wifi right?
Nov 29 19:46:39 <puckman> I have several machines here do that
Nov 29 19:46:51 <puckman> I'm in an office with roughly 38 macs
Nov 29 19:46:58 <puckman> and one zaurus :P
Nov 29 19:47:24 <puckman> summatusmentis: why ask?
Nov 29 19:47:35 <summatusmentis> puckman: yes, that's exactly it, I can't get myzaurus, which, I think is connected to my macbook, to find a DNS server
Nov 29 19:48:18 <puckman> so you can ping ok?
Nov 29 19:49:08 <summatusmentis> seemingly not... but I've got an address on eth0:avah (eth0 being my wifi card)
Nov 29 19:50:00 <summatusmentis> and it's not like I'm not getting a signal, my z is right next to my macbook
Nov 29 19:51:12 <summatusmentis> mimecar: part of the issue with me being the mentor for the 5500 is that I don't have the coding skills to fix most of the bugs I found regarding the 5500
Nov 29 19:51:43 <summatusmentis> puckman: I'm getting 100& packet loss pinging from the z
Nov 29 19:53:07 <puckman> and you are sure its logged onto the mac?
Nov 29 19:53:17 <puckman> do you have wep or wap security on?
Nov 29 19:53:21 <summatusmentis> no, I don't
Nov 29 19:53:27 <mimecar> summatusmentis: me neither
Nov 29 19:53:58 <puckman> and you are sure you on the mac's wifi?
Nov 29 19:54:43 <mimecar> but i want do it (not as mentor)
Nov 29 19:55:33 <summatusmentis> puckman: yes, the ESSID that my z is showing is the hostname of my macbook
Nov 29 19:55:53 <mimecar> summatusmentis: can you ping?
Nov 29 19:56:02 <puckman> no he cant
Nov 29 19:56:04 <puckman> weird
Nov 29 19:56:08 <puckman> and what if you ping your mac?
Nov 29 19:56:19 <mimecar> summatusmentis: disable your firewall
Nov 29 19:56:33 <puckman> btw mimecar the cf was already mounted, lol
Nov 29 19:56:41 <mimecar> then copy the files
Nov 29 19:56:48 <puckman> doing so now
Nov 29 19:56:52 <puckman> exciting
Nov 29 19:57:00 <summatusmentis> mimecar: you're probably right, hold on
Nov 29 19:58:59 <summatusmentis> except, that didn't work
Nov 29 19:59:10 <summatusmentis> but you fixed my torrents mimecar :-P
Nov 29 19:59:24 <mimecar> ???
Nov 29 19:59:59 <puckman> only time I ever had a problem with sharing wifi was with a wifi card that did not like the wifi card in my macbook
Nov 29 20:00:15 <puckman> ARGHH
Nov 29 20:00:22 <puckman> done all that work and i still get hdd1 error
Nov 29 20:00:49 <mimecar> puckman: you can install a new rom
Nov 29 20:01:01 <puckman> I did
Nov 29 20:01:31 <puckman> fuck, I forgot to create the .sys dir
Nov 29 20:01:32 <puckman> lol
Nov 29 20:02:17 <puckman> once I'm done with this I can write the super idiot guide
Nov 29 20:02:34 <summatusmentis> puckman: is there a way to limit the macbook wifi to b connections only?
Nov 29 20:03:15 <puckman> hmmm, not that i know off, let me check
Nov 29 20:03:35 <puckman> btw, tiger or leopard?
Nov 29 20:04:06 <summatusmentis> leopard
Nov 29 20:04:12 <puckman> not in the gui
Nov 29 20:04:18 <puckman> not sure about via terminal
Nov 29 20:05:47 <summatusmentis> :-'
Nov 29 20:05:51 <summatusmentis> :-/*
Nov 29 20:06:38 <summatusmentis> puckman: what interfaces show up when you run if you run ifconfig on the z when connected to a macbook via wifi
Nov 29 20:06:39 <summatusmentis> ?
Nov 29 20:06:41 <puckman> sorry
Nov 29 20:06:50 <puckman> nothing
Nov 29 20:07:02 <puckman> remember, I'm the guy trying to get my z working ;P
Nov 29 20:07:07 <summatusmentis> oh right
Nov 29 20:07:12 <puckman> almost there though
Nov 29 20:10:29 <summatusmentis> well, when you get there puckman, I expect you to cater to my needs :-D
Nov 29 20:10:37 <puckman> hahaha, sure
Nov 29 20:11:03 <puckman> in case you guys are wondering if I'm mad
Nov 29 20:11:20 <puckman> my work needed the zaurus for researching small linux puters
Nov 29 20:11:29 <puckman> if this thing was useful someone might want to keep it
Nov 29 20:11:51 <puckman> so I decided to stick the original japanese software on there so no one would want it after the project is finished resulting in me getting it ;)
Nov 29 20:11:59 <summatusmentis> LOL
Nov 29 20:12:01 <puckman> hahaha
Nov 29 20:12:11 <puckman> seeing I'm the only one who is learning japanese
Nov 29 20:12:26 <puckman> i bought a bunch of eee pc 's as well
Nov 29 20:12:33 <puckman> nice machines, bit big
Nov 29 20:12:33 <summatusmentis> oh, by original hapanese, you meant really japanese
Nov 29 20:12:41 <puckman> yeah
Nov 29 20:12:52 <summatusmentis> wen I bought my z, it had the original firmware on it, but had been converted to english
Nov 29 20:18:12 <puckman> hmmm, when I do cd /dev/hda1 it says it cant go there, why would that be?
Nov 29 20:19:09 <mimecar> it's a file
Nov 29 20:20:18 <puckman> ? but i just created 3 partitions, copied files onto it and rebooted
Nov 29 20:20:26 <puckman> why cant I go back to those partitions?
Nov 29 20:20:32 <puckman> I need to change something I did wrong
Nov 29 20:20:40 <mimecar> you did it ok
Nov 29 20:21:01 <mimecar> your system doesn't mount hardisk automatically
Nov 29 20:21:03 <summatusmentis> because you can't cd to a partition... you need to mount them
Nov 29 20:21:16 <puckman> right
Nov 29 20:21:46 <puckman> mount /dev/hda1
Nov 29 20:21:48 <puckman> right?
Nov 29 20:21:57 <summatusmentis> yes
Nov 29 20:22:03 <mimecar> .... /media/folder
Nov 29 20:22:21 <summatusmentis> unless it's not in fstab
Nov 29 20:22:29 <puckman> I replace media and folder with something?
Nov 29 20:22:34 <summatusmentis> yeah
Nov 29 20:22:41 <puckman> with what?
Nov 29 20:22:49 <mimecar> create a folder
Nov 29 20:22:58 <mimecar> it's only the location of the mounted files
Nov 29 20:24:14 <puckman> hmmm, tried that, get invalid argument
Nov 29 20:24:26 <puckman> i tried to mount hda1 to a folder i created in the home folder
Nov 29 21:03:54 <mimecar> re
Nov 29 21:18:40 <mimecar> how can I know locale is using my system ?
Nov 30 02:59:54 <Zero_Chaos> anyone with an akita that wants to flash?
Nov 30 02:59:55 <Zero_Chaos> :-)
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