**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Nov 30 02:59:57 2007 Nov 30 02:59:58 :-D Nov 30 03:09:33 not giving up huh? =) Nov 30 03:11:10 Would you prefer I did? Nov 30 03:11:12 :-) Nov 30 03:11:20 nope Nov 30 03:11:32 you might want to try your luck on oesf.org Nov 30 03:11:40 if that is even still around Nov 30 03:12:18 one of these days I'll see dcordes and he will do it.... I don't really know many people with akita. Nov 30 03:16:19 does it really have to be an akita? won't a spitz do? Nov 30 03:16:39 CoreDump: well, no, because they are not the same. Nov 30 03:16:53 CoreDump: and if spitz was broken, there would be a LOT more complaining. Nov 30 03:17:01 heh Nov 30 03:17:18 the kernels are different, and mine won't boot.... Nov 30 03:17:22 oh Nov 30 03:17:24 hence, akita issue :-) Nov 30 03:17:52 CoreDump: go buy an akita and help me out :-) Nov 30 03:18:01 CoreDump: no one cares about poodle anyway. Nov 30 03:18:13 I do spitz these days =D Nov 30 03:18:55 had I known they were that different, I would have bought it just for the better support, but I thought (wrongly) that the only diff was a microdrive Nov 30 03:19:20 the differences ain't that large Nov 30 03:21:19 meh, backlighting is screwed again. Nov 30 03:21:33 won't come back on if it is turned off via time-out Nov 30 03:21:41 I hate that. Nov 30 03:23:42 me too Nov 30 03:24:10 at least I fixed the hinge scripts to always turn it back on again after lid-close -> lid-open Nov 30 03:24:12 then stop breaking it :-) Nov 30 03:24:38 so can't you close it and open it and the light turns on? Nov 30 03:26:01 now, yes Nov 30 03:26:39 it should come back on on screen-tap Nov 30 03:27:37 sweet, at least that means the backlight won't go permanently out to lunch Nov 30 03:28:00 which it did randomly in the past Nov 30 03:28:45 I didn't realize it was random, I thought it was whenever I was trying to show someone how cool it is Nov 30 03:29:42 hehe Nov 30 03:36:44 hah Nov 30 03:36:54 xchat ftw Nov 30 03:37:13 xchat ftl Nov 30 03:37:21 irssi ftw Nov 30 03:37:45 :\ Nov 30 10:03:25 I can't locate "man" or "apropos" binaries anywhere in the distribution Nov 30 10:04:40 i want to build two images for different machine in one dir. how? Nov 30 10:05:10 would i use different conf files to config them seperately? Nov 30 10:32:20 readon: set MACHINE=machine1, do build, change MACHINE, do build Nov 30 10:32:54 readon: or unset MACHINE in config (or set it with ?=) and then set MACHINE in shell: MACHINE=mach1 bitbake image Nov 30 10:33:19 readon: but avoid doing "bitbake image1 image2" as this will break Nov 30 10:48:59 hrw: my message to Angstrom-distro-coreteam awaits moderator approval Nov 30 10:51:08 with ssh key? we got it Nov 30 10:53:06 yes. thanks Nov 30 10:53:49 now we approve, koen adds and then you gets access Nov 30 12:15:29 angstrom build instructions: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/building-angstrom Nov 30 12:15:31 hrw: I don't add anything, that's what the coreteam is for Nov 30 12:16:19 as I said, before, people were jumping up and down to form a coreteam and get into it, but do very little Nov 30 12:18:43 * rwhitby edits the instructions to refer to a makefile ... ;-) Nov 30 12:21:23 problem with Angstrom seems to be everyone has other jobs that pay Nov 30 12:21:33 or studies to finish Nov 30 12:24:37 koen: coreteam approves mentors but I prefer to not add keys by hand to not duplicate work Nov 30 12:25:05 ssh key handling sucks ass, has no-one written a ssh-keys gui? Nov 30 12:25:22 koen: autobuilder should avoid building perl stuff Nov 30 12:26:14 hrw: the autobuilder just builds images, if the images drag in perl, fix those Nov 30 12:26:21 sure Nov 30 12:26:49 our (OH) autobuilder found ugly bug in perl - I debugged it and will report it Nov 30 15:07:12 RP:ping Nov 30 15:16:48 hvontres|work: pong Nov 30 15:20:01 RP: did you ever get a chance to look over those atag patches? Nov 30 15:20:21 hvontres|work: You asked yesterday. No, sorry, not yet. Nov 30 15:20:57 RP: Np. Nov 30 15:21:42 hvontres|work: I'm going to need to do some testing with them and iron out the details for the other devices so its not going to happen straight away :( Nov 30 15:24:18 RP: Sounds like a plan. BTW, mwester and uli from road might be able to help you out as well. Nov 30 18:29:19 hi Nov 30 19:06:55 mickey|bbiab: FYI, I should have some testable poodle images ready by early Saturday your time Nov 30 19:07:13 mickey|bbiab: i.e later when I get home :) Nov 30 19:26:21 damn you dcordes! Nov 30 19:39:29 hvontres|work: ok, cool. just ping me and I'll flash them on mine here Nov 30 19:39:42 there's still some poodle users we can make lucky Nov 30 19:39:47 because they feel really abandoned Nov 30 19:39:48 by us Nov 30 19:40:17 *cough*tosa*cough* Nov 30 19:40:21 ;) Nov 30 19:41:14 anyone with an akita? Nov 30 19:41:19 * Zero_Chaos falls to the ground and sobs Nov 30 19:44:50 i just checked out http://linuxtogo.org/gowiki/ZaurusCollie and see that there has been some progress since i last looked Nov 30 19:45:11 i cant remember where anymore, but i pledged money for a 5500 mmc driver making it into 2.6 Nov 30 19:45:28 is there anywhere i could pledge support for 2.6/5500 in general? Nov 30 19:46:04 ive barely used my 5500 since debian stopped working for me (cant upgrade libc with 2.4, cant upgrade/install anything with libc i have installed) Nov 30 20:25:47 punkass: I think thomas (the colie guy) needs a new motherboard for his dev machine :( Nov 30 20:26:46 h interesting Nov 30 20:26:48 ah even Nov 30 20:27:02 well ill have to keep an eye on ebay then Nov 30 20:27:17 dont have a ton of cash, but i bet they are getting pretty cheap these days Nov 30 20:27:51 oh wait, you meant motherboard as in pc motherboard Nov 30 20:28:42 punkass: yup Nov 30 21:58:30 hi Nov 30 23:17:00 hi Nov 30 23:17:43 hi Nov 30 23:38:03 having trouble accessing my Z… Nov 30 23:38:21 Wifi seems broken, and neither host nor Z see the USB cable Nov 30 23:38:21 what's the problem? Nov 30 23:38:32 do I need to run something on the Z to enable the cable? Nov 30 23:38:43 with cable you must use usbnet Nov 30 23:38:56 modprobe usbnet failed, I think Nov 30 23:39:03 on pc side ? Nov 30 23:39:17 no, PC sees nothing on USB Nov 30 23:39:23 (lsusb) Nov 30 23:39:34 lsmod Nov 30 23:39:49 lsmod, of course, will show it on PC Nov 30 23:39:59 tail -f /var/log/message will tell you if pc has found the zaurus Nov 30 23:40:28 it hasn't Nov 30 23:40:43 Z has Linux 2.6.16, and no usbnet module Nov 30 23:41:54 luke-jr: I have a zaurus with thar kernel and I update with usbnet Nov 30 23:43:15 usbnet works fine Nov 30 23:44:16 what's it called on the Z end? Nov 30 23:44:41 on varlog ? Nov 30 23:45:02 the module Nov 30 23:46:21 you must not load any module on zaurus, only on pc Nov 30 23:46:40 zaurus end works OOTB Nov 30 23:46:42 well it's not visible to the PC as is Nov 30 23:47:22 well, I'm using 2.6.23 or something Nov 30 23:48:27 hey, I can upgrade now Nov 30 23:48:31 found another way to access CF Nov 30 23:50:17 mickeyl: ping. The images are uploaded. read the readme file for some exciting info :) Dec 01 00:45:55 1) Ensure that your C7×0 machine has a standard flash partitioning (e.g. as it was originally), flashing may fail if this is not the case Dec 01 00:46:02 what is that? 53 and 68 MB partitions I see Dec 01 01:36:10 ok, got usb0 on the Angstrom now Dec 01 01:36:16 PC sees it Dec 01 01:36:24 but no usb0 on PC Dec 01 01:56:54 luke-jr: modprobe zaurus or modprobe usbnet, depending on the kernel. Also ifconfig usb0 up might be required. Dec 01 01:57:21 sbrabec_zaurus: usb0 doesn't exist after loading both **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Dec 01 02:59:57 2007