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Dec 01 12:05:37 <schme`> Oh developer lounge.
Dec 01 12:05:40 <schme`> :P
Dec 01 12:06:24 <bluelightning> schme`: it's ok, koen isn't here right now, you can ask user questions ;)
Dec 01 12:06:56 <schme`> Ah.. Well I have no questions as of yet anyway. Still waiting for my toy to arrive so I get the chance to actually install something on it. :)
Dec 01 12:08:15 <schme`> Is it difficult to make new "packages" ?
Dec 01 12:10:27 <bluelightning> schme`: not too tricky no
Dec 01 12:10:33 <schme`> Eeexcellent.
Dec 01 12:10:42 <bluelightning> schme`: I usually let OpenEmbedded do all that for me
Dec 01 12:10:57 * schme` googles.
Dec 01 12:10:59 <bluelightning> it also takes care of all the cross-compiling stuff as well
Dec 01 12:11:38 <schme`> That is something I have been looking into.. the cross-compiling. It confuses me :)
Dec 01 12:11:56 <schme`> Though it could be 'cause I'm following 8 guides at the same time.. and not in order.
Dec 01 12:20:32 <schme`> bluelightning: Man, OpenEmbedded looks very nice. thx.
Dec 01 12:32:15 <schme`> Maybe this is not the right channel to ask but I'm following http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/GettingStarted and I do wget http://www.openembedded.org/snapshots/OE.mtn.bz2 which results in a file of size 0 .   What is up?
Dec 01 12:33:10 <schme`> Hey I'm dumb. Nevermind :)
Dec 01 12:38:48 <schme`> Oh yeah. There. It's still size 0.
Dec 01 15:18:55 <hvontres|home> mickeyl: did you get a chance to look at the new poodle images yet? 
Dec 01 15:35:18 <hvontres|home> mickeyl: if not, the images moved to http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/unsupported-images/poodle/20071130/, since they were not autobuilt 
Dec 01 15:35:58 <p13> hello
Dec 01 15:36:18 <p13> does anyone know of an image with opie or gpe for the nokia 770 ?
Dec 01 15:36:35 <p13> oops
Dec 01 15:49:32 <hvontres|home> CoreDump: If you can get your poodle to turn on again, you might want to check these images out: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/unsupported-images/poodle/20071130/
Dec 01 17:21:19 <tripolo> hi
Dec 01 17:22:00 <tripolo> hi dcordes
Dec 01 17:22:08 <dcordes> Zero_Chaos: had any luck with akit yet?
Dec 01 17:22:11 <dcordes> hope it's not broken
Dec 01 17:22:13 <dcordes> tripolo: hey
Dec 01 17:22:51 <tripolo> dcordes se puede poner un mouse en angstrom?
Dec 01 17:23:05 <tripolo> como se puede ver el cursor?
Dec 01 17:23:38 <tripolo> how put a mouse in angstrom?
Dec 01 17:25:13 <dcordes> tripolo: utilizar usb mouse
Dec 01 17:25:23 <tripolo> si como?
Dec 01 17:25:58 <dcordes> tripolo: tienes usb host cable?
Dec 01 17:26:14 <tripolo> si
Dec 01 17:26:24 <tripolo> kernel-module-usbmouse con esto?
Dec 01 17:26:41 <tripolo> en pdaxrom va muy bien, y se ve la flechita del cursor
Dec 01 17:27:13 <dcordes> tripolo: intenta a conectar.. que version de angstrom utilizas?
Dec 01 17:27:46 <tripolo> puff, no se una me dio mimecar hace un tiempo
Dec 01 17:28:27 <tripolo> angstrom test-20070804
Dec 01 17:28:39 <tripolo> eso pone en system information
Dec 01 17:29:03 <tripolo> build 2007-08-04
Dec 01 17:29:22 <tripolo> kernel 2.6.21
Dec 01 17:29:43 <dcordes> tripolo: Kevin2: "lsusb" eso mentra el mouse?
Dec 01 17:30:44 <tripolo> no, no hace nada con lsusb
Dec 01 17:31:46 <dcordes> tripolo: ah.. no hay sufficiante poder. Necesitas una batgeria o powered usb hub
Dec 01 17:31:57 <dcordes> bateria
Dec 01 17:32:43 <tripolo> con el cargador enchufado puede valer?
Dec 01 17:34:42 <dcordes> tripolo: cargador de usb hub?
Dec 01 17:35:08 <dcordes> no va a valer con cargador de akita..
Dec 01 17:35:19 <tripolo> no no digo el cargador de AC conectado a akita
Dec 01 17:35:30 <dcordes> ese no cambia la situacion con usb poder
Dec 01 17:35:46 <tripolo> en pdaxrom si funciona
Dec 01 17:35:57 <tripolo> y sin cargador AC
Dec 01 17:36:31 <dcordes> posiblamente en pdaxrom no hay limitacion de usb poder que es muy peligroso.. 
Dec 01 17:36:52 <tripolo> dcordes , se puede poner angstrom en la tarjeta sd?
Dec 01 17:37:08 <tripolo> para cargar el sistema desde la sd card
Dec 01 17:38:02 <dcordes> no. necesitas usb hub con cargador o otra mouse
Dec 01 17:38:15 <dcordes> y con el cursor.. no se como haces eso
Dec 01 17:38:32 <tripolo> ok
Dec 01 17:38:44 <tripolo> como puedo instalar programas en la sd card?
Dec 01 17:40:39 <dcordes> ipkg install blablabla -d sd
Dec 01 17:40:51 <dcordes> o ipkg install blablabla -d card
Dec 01 17:40:53 <dcordes> no se
Dec 01 17:40:59 <dcordes> intenta..
Dec 01 17:42:21 <dcordes> tambien puedes installar angstrom en sd. pero es un poco complicado y no puedo exlicar eso en espanol. quizas pregunta a mimecar. tambien en esto channel la lengua es ingles y no es bueno hablar ein espanol aqui
Dec 01 17:42:48 <tripolo> ok
Dec 01 17:43:19 <dcordes> tienes icq o algo?
Dec 01 17:43:45 <tripolo> no, por privado de aqui mismo
Dec 01 17:45:03 <Zero_Chaos> dcordes: no luck yet, are you going to tell me which image I should flash to test?
Dec 01 17:45:15 <dcordes> do we have any recent images?
Dec 01 17:45:42 <dcordes> tim chick didn't upload one in one month..
Dec 01 17:46:00 <dcordes> Zero_Chaos: You have a working OE around?
Dec 01 17:46:20 <Zero_Chaos> dcordes: yes I do, but I don't really trust my build system atm, hence the desire for external test....
Dec 01 17:46:53 <dcordes> I wanted to flash a recent build..
Dec 01 17:47:23 <Zero_Chaos> dcordes: ya' don't want to flash mine :-)
Dec 01 17:48:28 <dcordes> Zero_Chaos: do you know how to back up akita's internal flash?
Dec 01 17:48:39 <dcordes> could just eject my sd then and try everything you like
Dec 01 17:49:20 <Zero_Chaos> dcordes: I know there are directions for NAND Backup/Restore if you do a quick google.... but I have very very little experience with it.
Dec 01 17:51:38 <tripolo> please help, how install programs in the sd card?
Dec 01 17:52:21 <Zero_Chaos> tripolo: from the gui package manager? select SD instead of root
Dec 01 17:53:21 <tripolo> in console?
Dec 01 17:54:21 <Zero_Chaos> man ipkg
Dec 01 17:54:33 <Zero_Chaos> or google it even
Dec 01 17:55:49 <Zero_Chaos> dcordes: if you get a chance, just pm me with the link / filenames of something you can successfully flash.
Dec 01 17:56:01 <Zero_Chaos> dcordes: I just woke up and I'm already in a sour mood so I'm taking off for a while.
Dec 01 17:59:00 <dcordes> Zero_Chaos: haha same here
Dec 01 18:24:27 <dcordes> tripolo: mouse ok?
Dec 01 18:30:01 <tripolo> dcordes mouse where?
Dec 01 18:30:10 <tripolo> is it?
Dec 01 18:31:55 <dcordes> I mean: Did you make your mouse work?
Dec 01 18:34:06 <tripolo> no work, i don,t known
Dec 01 18:36:34 <Zero_Chaos> dcordes: alright, I'm outtie.  Try to test a working flash image for me please.
Dec 01 18:36:37 <Zero_Chaos> later
Dec 01 18:40:54 <dcordes> Zero_Chaos: you could also email tim chick http://gmane.org/get-address.php?address=chick%2dbdq14YP6qtQ%2f7%2f2A8PGpyE73wzpk4OL60Fzj8UutsXo%40public.gmane.org since he is the maintainer he's the first one to contact
Dec 01 18:41:07 <dcordes> also I think all images have to be tested by the maintainer before uploaded..
Dec 01 21:22:39 <mimecar> hi
Dec 01 21:31:20 <dcordes_> hi mimecar. did tipoli contact you yet?
Dec 01 21:31:50 <Zero_Chaos> dcordes_: there are no images since he became maintainer
Dec 01 21:36:59 <mimecar> no, idon't
Dec 01 21:37:19 <mimecar> dcordes_: what was related with ?
Dec 01 21:37:46 <dcordes_> He tried to get a usb mouse working with a _visible_ cursor in angstrom
Dec 01 21:43:10 <mimecar> re
Dec 01 21:46:09 <dcordes_> mimecar,  He tried to get a usb mouse working with a _visible_ cursor in angstrom
Dec 01 21:51:27 <mimecar> ok, he is tripolo
Dec 01 21:54:00 <mimecar> dcordes_: I talked with him yesterday (mouse cursor), i don't know if he got some result
Dec 01 22:22:27 <SonicvanaJr> Is gcc3 really required to build qemu-native?
Dec 01 22:22:37 * Zero_Chaos smacks SonicvanaJr 
Dec 01 22:23:05 * SonicvanaJr smacks back. Bum
Dec 01 22:23:57 * Zero_Chaos wonders who SonicvanaJr hit...
Dec 01 22:25:41 <SonicvanaJr> Your sadistic tendencies have rendered you inable to feel pain apparently
Dec 01 22:26:14 <SonicvanaJr> s/inable/unable
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