**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Dec 10 02:59:57 2007 Dec 10 07:59:07 anybody here installed angstrom on a zaurus c860? Dec 10 08:32:52 the flash updater just drops me to a prompt on my c860, it looks like update and update_sd are still running in the background? Dec 10 08:40:25 well, the new updater doesn't reboot when it's done Dec 10 08:40:32 smack_: just reset it Dec 10 08:41:27 CoreDump: ah, thanks. when i do 'reboot' though i get tons of jffs2_scan_eraseblock() errors Dec 10 08:41:54 Magic bitmask not found Dec 10 08:41:54 you might wanna try using the"old" updater.sh from an OZ release Dec 10 08:42:24 hmm, ok Dec 10 08:42:58 so basically the updater only works on tosa and hrw's mysterious c760 Dec 10 08:47:38 looks promising... Dec 10 08:48:24 the akita change shouldn't have had any impact on the other models Dec 10 08:48:26 shit Dec 10 08:48:40 so it looks like hack session for me today Dec 10 08:48:49 sweet. the one from OZ 3.5.4 worked beautifully. thanks CoreDump Dec 10 08:48:53 btw laibsch had it working on spitz Dec 10 08:48:56 np Dec 10 08:49:31 hrw: the tar.gz routine appears to work, yes Dec 10 08:49:35 ok Dec 10 08:50:25 i can test once it's sorted out, if that would help Dec 10 08:57:33 looks like it's not coming back from suspends... Dec 10 09:00:47 ok, I am flashing my c760 with recent updater now Dec 10 09:03:19 flashed Dec 10 09:03:44 heh.. its quiet kernel ;( Dec 10 09:03:57 =) Dec 10 09:04:07 angstrom kernels are quiet or not? Dec 10 09:04:14 morning Dec 10 09:04:20 ummm...mine weren't Dec 10 09:04:28 ant|work: hey Dec 10 09:04:30 hrw: OE defaults Dec 10 09:04:32 hey ant|work Dec 10 09:05:11 smack_: check the screen brightness Dec 10 09:05:45 ok, fetching angstrom images/kernel now Dec 10 09:05:52 smack_: on c860 resume was ok yestarday Dec 10 09:06:26 smack_: brightness level on 2 = BLACK Dec 10 09:06:38 smack_: put it on 3 Dec 10 09:08:13 koen: how is with the new 2007 feeds? ipkg install doesn't find any package Dec 10 09:08:42 they have packages and work over here Dec 10 09:08:47 koen: that was 8 hours ago... Dec 10 09:09:52 ant|work: http://rafb.net/p/yO4LjI75.html Dec 10 09:10:35 koen: tried install mc ; install wifi-radar Dec 10 09:10:40 koen: error 4 Dec 10 09:11:04 koen: ipkg upgrade was ok (found 2 packages) Dec 10 09:11:04 those aren't in the release feeds yet Dec 10 09:11:12 koen: ahhhh Dec 10 09:11:32 so "doesn't find any package" means "doesn't find mc and wifiradar" Dec 10 09:11:38 koen: silly me Dec 10 09:11:44 phew Dec 10 09:12:20 koen: but in my deploy ipkg/glibc was reversed in the path..I thought... Dec 10 09:12:24 ant|work: you can add in the unstable feed if you want Dec 10 09:12:46 ant|work: I asked a few weeks ago for people to start a list of packages they want in the repo, but no reply sofar Dec 10 09:13:02 I could conclude that people don't want anything in the feeds... Dec 10 09:13:12 koen: :-) Dec 10 09:15:13 feeds should be banned Dec 10 09:16:46 I am taking all versions of new updater.sh to test Dec 10 09:17:00 will start for oldest one Dec 10 09:21:06 hrw: which xserver-kdrive have been installed on your c7x0? Dec 10 09:22:11 hrw: there is the multiple provider issue building x-images Dec 10 09:22:54 hrw: did you hear the news about pdaX? Dec 10 09:23:02 koen: I do not follow them Dec 10 09:23:13 hrw: #2888 FIXED xserver-kdrive-imageon-1.3.0.0-r0-do_patch Dec 10 09:23:22 hrw: 1.3.0 never released Dec 10 09:23:42 hrw: http://www.oesf.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=25187&hl= Dec 10 09:23:50 hrw: it's now officially dead Dec 10 09:24:15 since most pdaX 'developers' are running debian powered by angstrom now Dec 10 09:25:00 ant|work: do I am c7x0 mentor? Dec 10 09:25:59 I will have AirCable BT for Zaurus Dec 10 09:26:09 hrw: we all know your c7x0 is special :-)) Dec 10 09:27:41 hrw: just check what has been built in your work dir pls Dec 10 09:35:59 hrw: what serial speed do you expect from AirCable? Dec 10 09:36:29 hrw: with socket cf I set 230400 but guess it defaults down to 115200 Dec 10 09:36:56 hrw: csr , bcsp Dec 10 09:37:06 ant|work: its more experiment then usage Dec 10 09:37:28 hrw: that's th ewhle Zaurus experience...! Dec 10 09:38:11 ant thinks: devil Zaurus took me so much time... Dec 10 09:38:41 hrw: 2x aircable or aircable + own bt dongle? Dec 10 09:39:57 hrw: http://www.trisoft.de/bluetooth.htm ? Dec 10 09:39:57 aircable for Z and I have 2 bt dongles here Dec 10 09:40:13 that one Dec 10 09:40:42 hrw: was already sold out in 2003 ! Dec 10 10:31:08 now I have version of unified updater which works on my c760 Dec 10 10:31:17 now need to import improvements into it Dec 10 10:31:24 as I started from old copy Dec 10 10:40:28 ok. now I have working and non-wroking version Dec 10 10:42:42 hrw: you lost so much time on c7x0 with sharp-bootloader ! Dec 10 10:43:11 hrw: a swap to u-boot would have been quicker ! Dec 10 10:43:34 fighting with pdax hacks and uboot mainline will be not shorter Dec 10 10:43:45 then fighting with users.... Dec 10 10:43:58 hrw: yes...I know... Dec 10 10:44:41 hrw: you did a good job stabilizing oz 3.5.4 Dec 10 10:44:49 found problem Dec 10 10:45:06 !praise hrw Dec 10 10:45:07 * cdbot2 bows down to hrw and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" Dec 10 10:45:15 hrw: once this will apply to Angstrom we'll talk about new bootloaders! Dec 10 10:45:35 its "check version" block Dec 10 10:45:50 iirc its tosa only Dec 10 10:48:17 and poodle Dec 10 10:49:36 if [ "$ZAURUS" = "tosa" ] || [ "$ZAURUS" = "poodle" ] Dec 10 10:50:37 hrw: do you happen to have the sources of the pdaxrom re-partitioner ? Dec 10 10:52:27 no Dec 10 10:52:49 hrw: I found only the old u-boot patch Dec 10 10:53:36 hrw: now that pdaxrom is frozen...perhaps something will happen Dec 10 10:53:55 nah Dec 10 10:53:57 frozen? Dec 10 10:54:03 its not frozen but halted Dec 10 10:54:15 hrw: I tried to be polite Dec 10 10:54:44 we will only see a lot of people saying "OMG ANGSTROM IS TEH SUXORSS!!!" and then install debian using angstrom kernel, angstrom updater, angstrom config files, angstrom userspace helpers, angstrom Xserver, etc Dec 10 10:55:05 koen: vampires Dec 10 10:55:45 ant|work: I am polite Dec 10 10:56:03 CoreDump: I think that I know why tosa/poodle only Dec 10 10:56:15 CoreDump: flash-binary-header-c700 Dec 10 10:57:25 hrw: http://rafb.net/p/FOXMqU50.html Dec 10 10:58:29 ? Dec 10 10:58:46 a hack go generate sane packages from native builds using OE Dec 10 10:59:31 e.g. repackage broken ipkgs Dec 10 11:00:21 koen: how is blackfin? a blackfin based games console is only 80 GBP Dec 10 11:01:09 XorA|gone: it's uclinux Dec 10 11:01:15 XorA|gone: OE doesn't handle that well Dec 10 11:01:22 koen: :-( Dec 10 11:01:32 and to make it behave I need hacks from the blackfin dudes Dec 10 11:01:33 koen: 500Mhz blackfin in a handheld sounds interesting Dec 10 11:01:45 which only compile during full moon with their toolchain Dec 10 11:02:11 well, I already have 4 blackfin CPUs :) Dec 10 11:02:24 since each devboard has 2 Dec 10 11:04:17 koen: http://www.emuboards.com/invision/index.php?showtopic=29545 Dec 10 11:04:28 emoboards? Dec 10 11:08:09 koen: we should c-name emoboards to oesf :-) Dec 10 11:08:31 what happened to mickey|zzZZzz's project to take over oesf? Dec 10 11:08:40 * XorA|gone never heard any more Dec 10 11:14:30 same here Dec 10 11:29:29 the native toolchain now works as well Dec 10 11:29:41 after the latest sed changes to pkgconfig.bbclass Dec 10 11:36:00 * XorA|gone somersaults Dec 10 11:43:18 XorA|gone: slippery carpets? Dec 10 11:50:58 FIXED Dec 10 11:51:07 new updater.sh on the way Dec 10 11:52:53 http://www.openembedded.org/~hrw/updater.bin - fetch, rename to updater.sh and test Dec 10 11:52:58 works on my c760 Dec 10 11:53:22 testing on tosa/poodle especially requied Dec 10 11:53:40 commit it so the autobuilder picks it up Dec 10 11:53:50 can't get much worse than it is now Dec 10 11:55:44 it is pushing now Dec 10 11:56:05 pushed even Dec 10 12:02:05 I need time to get tosa running again - battery flat Dec 10 12:02:37 could you mail angstrom-devel about testing that new updater.sh? Dec 10 12:08:11 can Dec 10 12:09:09 * XorA|gone can test tosa and poodle this afternoon Dec 10 12:10:14 sent Dec 10 12:10:45 o-hand.com:xmpp-server ESTABLISHED Dec 10 12:10:47 * koen wonders Dec 10 12:11:10 wonder about? Dec 10 12:11:37 why o-hand.com connects to my jabber Dec 10 12:12:00 someone from OH has you in roster Dec 10 12:12:02 koen: someone must have your jabber info that works for o-hand :-) Dec 10 12:12:12 ah, right Dec 10 12:12:26 * XorA|gone really should fix up his jabber Dec 10 12:12:33 koen: btw - why I do not have your JID? Dec 10 12:13:04 koen@dominion.thruhere.net and koen.kooi@gmail.com Dec 10 12:14:29 Remote server not found. Dec 10 12:14:30 A remote server or service specified as part or all of the JID of the intended recipient does not exist. Dec 10 12:19:33 * koen suspects a missing port forward Dec 10 12:29:54 offline koen added once Dec 10 12:48:07 evening! Dec 10 12:50:03 * hrw updates tosa now Dec 10 12:57:56 ok - recent version updates tosa properly Dec 10 13:28:40 fsro_resize util source would be nice to have - we will be able to restore original flash size then Dec 10 13:28:48 thats pdaXrom tool Dec 10 13:34:16 hrw: its older than pdaXrom and the detaild used to by on zaurus.spy.org Dec 10 13:34:36 hrw: but basically it forces some bytes into bootloader (probably where cmdline is stored) Dec 10 13:35:23 isn't flash 'partitioning' just the kernels imagination? Dec 10 13:35:54 koen: will you fix 2.4 kernel used in rescue? Dec 10 13:36:39 pdax resize flash by storing data in flash. bootloader use that data and give it to kernel Dec 10 13:36:51 2.4 kernel (used by updater) parse it and use it Dec 10 13:36:56 2.6 kernel ignore it Dec 10 13:37:11 right Dec 10 13:38:02 I got it Dec 10 13:38:11 http://mail.pdaxrom.org/src/survive-1.1.0.tar.bz2 contains it Dec 10 13:39:21 hrw:koen: the partitioning should be in Parameter Area?Isn't? Dec 10 13:39:23 http://www.h5.dion.ne.jp/~rimemoon/zaurus/memo_006.htm Dec 10 13:39:36 ant|work: and it is - but changed Dec 10 13:39:41 * hrw -> lunch Dec 10 13:40:02 dunno Dec 10 13:40:10 koen: it is Dec 10 13:40:15 I deny having any knowledge of zaurus stuff :) Dec 10 13:40:44 koen: I know because I'm a u-boot on Z survivor... Dec 10 13:44:27 hrw: the pdaxrom repartition utility writes on there the user selected partitioning Dec 10 13:45:08 hrw: is it like POKE 30 years ago on C64? Dec 10 13:45:33 hrw: or there is a consistent routine to copy from? Dec 10 13:46:15 hrw: here I cannot check...I'm supposedly at work... Dec 10 13:46:18 question: is fsro_resize legally distributable? Dec 10 13:48:28 koen: GNU General Public License Dec 10 13:49:09 koen: is not enough ? Dec 10 13:49:28 yes Dec 10 13:49:42 I was affraid it was some leaked binary from sharp Dec 10 13:56:32 now I think of it, wouldn't the new updater.sh honour repartitioned flash? Dec 10 13:56:49 (the 2.6 kernel will not, though) Dec 10 13:57:26 koen: passing ATAG cmdline? Dec 10 14:07:59 koen: and with another bootloader ;-) Dec 10 14:08:31 bbl Dec 10 14:13:09 hrw: updater.sh works on tosa Dec 10 14:15:23 XorA|gone I know - tested already ;) Dec 10 14:21:51 hrw: your tosa isnt as good as mine :-D Dec 10 14:22:34 or mine charged faster Dec 10 14:23:05 so who will add resizing to updater.sh? Dec 10 14:23:17 * XorA|gone retired from zaurus :-) Dec 10 14:28:07 I will not - al least for some time Dec 10 14:28:24 c760 is still more usable as test device then any other arm here Dec 10 14:28:33 let the pdaxrom guys do that Dec 10 14:28:36 they started with resizing Dec 10 14:28:41 they should add it into updater.sh Dec 10 14:28:51 btw. Dec 10 14:28:56 did you see my latest missionary work? :D Dec 10 14:29:08 * mickeyl digs out the link Dec 10 14:29:14 mickeyl: their updater handle it Dec 10 14:29:33 http://www.oesf.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=25187&pid=172395&st=0&#entry172395 Dec 10 14:29:50 the problem with adding such feature to our one is that it require another binary to ship with updater Dec 10 14:31:24 need to check does sharp rescue has uudecode Dec 10 14:31:36 it has ;) Dec 10 14:33:46 but uudecode handle one file only. Dec 10 14:34:22 hm.. what about embedding two uuencoded files into updater.sh so it will decode them when needed? Dec 10 14:34:39 this way we can embed gnu-tar and flash resize tool Dec 10 14:35:16 hrw: that means you need to embed the source of gnu-tar into updater.sh Dec 10 14:35:30 not source but binary Dec 10 14:35:40 hrw: and source to obey GPL Dec 10 14:35:53 hrw: or written offer valid for 3 years :-) Dec 10 14:36:17 angstrom ship tar in feeds. angstrom ship tar source Dec 10 14:36:26 angstrom comply to gpl? Dec 10 14:36:45 hrw: only as long as the source is associated with the binary package Dec 10 14:37:47 XorA|gone: what about adding info on start of updater: "This software use this and this GPL licensed. To get sources go to http:// address." Dec 10 14:38:00 where address would be angstrom source archive Dec 10 14:38:48 hrw: just ln -s ../sourcearchive/ sources in all binary direcories :-) Dec 10 14:41:28 hmm, GPL-3 Angstrom is fine, the cocked up wording of GPL-2 it probably falls down on Dec 10 14:41:42 Ill bet gnu-tar says or later version though, so its not a worry Dec 10 17:09:57 bye! Dec 10 17:25:56 Hello everybody! Dec 10 17:49:15 do you know how to start xmodmap automaticly? Dec 10 17:49:35 I think that my internet connection was broken for a moment Dec 10 17:49:55 do you know how to start xmodmap automaticly? Dec 10 17:52:17 I remember, that you told me something about mplayer for pdaXrom ... Dec 10 17:52:37 could you remember me what's up with it? Dec 10 19:07:04 !logs Dec 10 19:07:06 Channel logs for #angstrom are archived at: Dec 10 19:07:07 http://hentges.net/tmp/logs/irc/%23angstrom Dec 10 19:07:08 Live-logs are available at Dec 10 19:07:09 http://hentges.net/tmp/logs/irc/livelogs/%23angstrom.livelog Dec 10 19:07:11 See ?? help-logs for usage instructions Dec 10 19:13:46 evening! Dec 10 21:03:18 weird Dec 10 21:03:38 last night, i installed gpe-bluetooth, and it wouldn't start, always errored out Dec 10 21:03:42 rebooted and that didn't help Dec 10 21:03:51 today, after rebooting again, it suddenly started working Dec 10 21:06:30 Sketch: hey, ;-) Dec 10 21:07:35 Sketch: tried gnome-bluetooth ? Dec 10 21:07:47 after i gave up on trying to make bluetooth auto-start, and just decided to get ppp working with my phone first, and worry about the rest alter ;) Dec 10 21:07:58 (i do still have to manually start rfcomm though) Dec 10 21:08:08 Sketch: I know Dec 10 21:08:37 Sketch: hack init.d/bluetooth Dec 10 21:09:08 Sketch: but this is just a bug, isn't? Dec 10 21:10:15 ant_: yeah... either that or maybe it should be a hotplug thing Dec 10 21:10:16 Sketch: or perhaps we should populate /etc/default/bluetooth Dec 10 21:10:24 which i'm not really sure how hotplug works at all right now Dec 10 21:10:37 i haven't really looked at it in 2.6 Dec 10 21:11:05 Sketch: bluetooth is a moving target... Dec 10 21:11:37 Sketch: a Chamaleon I'd say Dec 10 21:14:07 yeah Dec 10 21:15:04 well, at least it's usable now ;) Dec 10 21:15:14 now i just have to figure out why my battery life seems so bad... Dec 10 21:15:19 i think it might have bene the screen brightness Dec 10 21:15:44 Sketch: that's anotery oddity Dec 10 21:16:10 Sketch: can you confirm working suspend/resume ? Dec 10 21:16:50 suspend/resume seems to work fine Dec 10 21:17:03 it does the stopping tasks... thing then screen goes blank Dec 10 21:17:09 and then comes back when i hit the power button again Dec 10 21:17:22 so unless it's just turning the screen off, but not really shutting off, then it's working Dec 10 21:17:28 Sketch: try during recharge pls Dec 10 21:18:32 i did notice it doesn't suspend when power is plugged in Dec 10 21:18:41 figured that was on purpose ;) Dec 10 21:18:54 Sketch: for me no resume Dec 10 21:19:03 ah Dec 10 21:19:14 Sketch: only if I suspend on recharge Dec 10 21:19:24 actually, i did manually suspend it yesterday while it was plugged into power and it came back up fine Dec 10 21:19:31 (using the gpe menu option for suspend) Dec 10 21:19:43 Sketch: socket cf card inserted ? Dec 10 21:19:53 Sketch: no menu, button Dec 10 21:20:03 either that or wifi Dec 10 21:20:13 didn't try it with the button, i can check that when i'm home Dec 10 21:20:20 (at work now, no charger here) Dec 10 21:20:43 Sketch: thx Dec 10 21:21:26 any idea how to check/change clock speeds? Dec 10 21:23:08 btw, i'm using a 3100 Dec 10 21:23:15 in case it matters for suspend/resume Dec 10 21:23:27 and i'm currently running the akita image from 1117 ;) Dec 11 00:11:02 bye! Dec 11 01:54:26 the process of udev synthesizing seems a little bit slow. is there any way to optimize? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Dec 11 02:59:57 2007