**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Dec 15 02:59:57 2007
Dec 15 05:45:41 <DaedalusX> would it REALLY have killed the kdrive programmers to allow SOME setup scripts?
Dec 15 05:45:46 <DaedalusX> like xorg.conf or something?
Dec 15 05:46:00 <DaedalusX> apparently you can either use a touchscreen or a USB mouse, but not both
Dec 15 05:46:08 <DaedalusX> and the latter option isn't working for me anyway :P
Dec 15 06:22:30 <DaedalusX> CoreDump, hey... you there?
Dec 15 11:06:31 <Infurnus> can anybody help with "ERROR: Please set the 'CACHE' variable."  heres my local.conf http://pastebin.com/m6f128c45
Dec 15 11:06:39 <Infurnus> i followed all the directions here http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/building-angstrom
Dec 15 11:09:00 <CoreDump> is your CACHE variable set?
Dec 15 11:09:21 <Infurnus> really?
Dec 15 11:09:23 <Infurnus> yeah
Dec 15 11:09:25 <Infurnus> per the website
Dec 15 11:09:27 <Infurnus> its set
Dec 15 11:10:11 <Infurnus> # ccache always overfill $HOME....  
Dec 15 11:10:11 <Infurnus> CCACHE=""
Dec 15 11:10:13 <Infurnus> on the website
Dec 15 11:10:21 <Infurnus> #
Dec 15 11:10:21 <Infurnus> # ccache always overfill $HOME....
Dec 15 11:10:21 <Infurnus> #
Dec 15 11:10:21 <Infurnus> CCACHE=""
Dec 15 11:10:25 <Infurnus> from pastebin
Dec 15 11:10:40 <CoreDump> CCACHE != CACHE
Dec 15 11:11:01 <CoreDump> also ="" pretty much unsets it
Dec 15 11:12:09 <CoreDump> insert a CACHE="${TMPDIR}/cache after TMPDIR
Dec 15 11:15:12 <Infurnus> TMPDIR = "/OE/build/tmp/${DISTRO}"
Dec 15 11:15:12 <Infurnus> CACHE="${TMPDIR}/cache"
Dec 15 11:15:14 <Infurnus> like that eh?
Dec 15 11:15:50 <CoreDump> "CACHE = " (which the spaces) but yes
Dec 15 11:22:21 <Infurnus> ok i have TMPDIR = "/OE/build/tmp/${DISTRO}"
Dec 15 11:22:21 <Infurnus> CACHE = "${TMPDIR}/cache"  and the directory /OE/build/tmp/angstrom/cache is there with a few items in it
Dec 15 11:22:26 <Infurnus> but i still get the same thing
Dec 15 11:23:58 <Infurnus> infurnus@work:/OE/org.openembedded.dev$ which bitbake
Dec 15 11:23:58 <Infurnus> infurnus@work:/OE/org.openembedded.dev$ bitbake X11-image
Dec 15 11:23:58 <Infurnus> ERROR: Please set the 'CACHE' variable.
Dec 15 11:24:25 <Infurnus> ha lol when i run which bitbake it does show this line /OE/bitbake-1.8.8/bin/bitbake
Dec 15 11:24:30 <Infurnus> it didnt get copied for some reason
Dec 15 16:23:31 <monkeymagic> a quick question re: spitz angstrom http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/autobuild/spitz/updater.sh.spitz refuses to download
Dec 15 16:23:44 <monkeymagic> is there any other way of getting this?
Dec 15 16:25:01 <CoreDump> download the installkit, the updater is inside
Dec 15 16:31:15 <monkeymagic> will try that many thanks
Dec 15 16:31:52 <CoreDump> np
Dec 15 16:32:06 <monkeymagic> Also is the x11-office the 'everything' install
Dec 15 16:32:11 <monkeymagic> there seem to be so many options
Dec 15 16:32:45 <monkeymagic> I'm going for http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/autobuild/spitz/Angstrom-x11-office-image-glibc-ipk-2007.11RC1-spitz-installkit.tgz
Dec 15 16:32:51 <monkeymagic> on a zaurus c3000
Dec 15 16:35:31 <CoreDump> no idea, really.
Dec 15 16:36:21 <monkeymagic> ok thanks for ur help again, will download and try this way
Dec 15 16:36:44 <CoreDump> have fun
Dec 15 17:09:59 <DaedalusX> hi all
Dec 15 17:10:14 <DaedalusX> is there any way to make the touchscreen not flip out when  you make a program fullscreen?
Dec 15 18:00:56 <piggz> hi....ive finally managed to get angstrom to run up on my ipaq hx2110.....some of the programs dont appear to work, so i wondered if there was a newer release....the hx2000 port hasnt release anything for a while, is it still being worked on? also...i have a cf wlan card, would the driver have to be compiled in, or are modules supported? cheers
Dec 15 18:52:22 <DaedalusX> CoreDump, heyas
Dec 15 18:52:34 <CoreDump> hey
Dec 15 18:52:51 <DaedalusX> CoreDump, I saw online that you managed to get a usb mouse working under kdrive?
Dec 15 18:53:25 <CoreDump> ages ago, yes
Dec 15 18:53:45 <DaedalusX> any idea how one would do it now? :P
Dec 15 18:53:57 <DaedalusX> tslib seems to take over completely
Dec 15 18:54:00 <CoreDump> DaedalusX: check /etc/X11/Xserver on how to use it instead of the touchscreen
Dec 15 18:54:34 <CoreDump> didn't look into it in a looong time so I'm not big on details
Dec 15 18:54:42 <DaedalusX> I tried screwing with that stuff but all I managed to do was get the touchscreen to stop working :P
Dec 15 18:54:54 <DaedalusX> Xfbdev seems to completely ignore -mouse
Dec 15 18:55:27 <CoreDump> yes it does
Dec 15 18:55:36 <CoreDump> (IIRC)
Dec 15 18:55:56 <DaedalusX> which is all that that stuff in the Xserver script does, unfortunately :(
Dec 15 18:56:32 <CoreDump> hmmm, well
Dec 15 18:56:41 <CoreDump> sorry, can't help you then
Dec 15 18:56:50 <CoreDump> don't have the means ATM
Dec 15 18:56:57 <DaedalusX> I tried symlinking /dev/input/event3 to /dev/input/mice, as people have said that it looks there automatically
Dec 15 18:57:03 <DaedalusX> but that didn't do anything :(
Dec 15 18:57:12 <DaedalusX> CoreDump, don't worry about it... I just figured I'd ask
Dec 15 18:57:17 <CoreDump> ;)
Dec 15 18:57:53 <DaedalusX> kdrive is a pain in the ass. :P
Dec 15 18:58:27 <DaedalusX> would it really have killed them to have allowed it to read a configuration file? :P
Dec 15 18:58:37 <CoreDump> =)
Dec 15 18:59:00 <DaedalusX> do you know how much of a difference it really makes memory wise versus xorg?
Dec 15 18:59:04 <CoreDump> you have no idea how many times I tought the exact same thing
Dec 15 18:59:10 <CoreDump> no
Dec 15 18:59:29 <DaedalusX> because I seriously wanna murder kdrive. Not to mention kdrive seems to freak out with fullscreen program
Dec 15 18:59:30 <DaedalusX> s
Dec 15 19:12:00 <DaedalusX> awesome, my wifi USB adapter came in :)
Dec 15 19:12:51 <CoreDump> which reminds me...a useless friend of mine still has my USB WLAN thingy
Dec 15 19:13:02 <DaedalusX> laame
Dec 15 19:40:53 <pixelized> anybody got the rndis driver to work with winbloze systems?
Dec 15 20:56:24 <pixelized> anybody in here tried to rndis/ethernet gadget with windows vista?
Dec 15 20:58:26 <DaedalusX> pixelized, not yet
Dec 15 21:02:06 <pixelized> having no sucess can't find any drivers
Dec 15 21:10:57 <pixelized> oh i think i got one that works
Dec 15 21:18:45 <DaedalusX> pixelized, figure everything out okay?
Dec 15 21:38:21 <Pixelized_> DaedalusX yeah was hard to find a driver that worked in vista
Dec 15 22:07:01 <pixelized> well that's done
Dec 15 22:10:35 <pixelized> DaedalusX u there
Dec 15 22:14:23 <pixelized> having some issues with ipkg
Dec 15 22:22:59 <pixelized> anybody know if there is a way to make ipkg download the dependencies when installing the packages
Dec 15 22:58:28 <DaedalusX> pixelized, it should do that normally
Dec 15 23:18:13 <pixelized> DaedalusX unless the packages have not been made for your pda i guess
Dec 15 23:33:03 <DaedalusX> pixelized, what packages are you trying to install?
Dec 15 23:37:52 <pixelized> angstrom-gpe-task-apps
Dec 15 23:38:07 <pixelized> and tried games
Dec 15 23:38:29 <DaedalusX> what do you mean it's not made for your pda?
Dec 15 23:38:36 <DaedalusX> you've got a 3xxx right?
Dec 15 23:38:49 <pixelized> yup
Dec 15 23:38:56 <pixelized> slc 3200
Dec 15 23:39:01 <DaedalusX> it's available.
Dec 15 23:39:04 <pixelized> the spitz package for it is there
Dec 15 23:39:05 <pixelized> yes
Dec 15 23:39:10 <pixelized> but then complains about dependancies
Dec 15 23:39:14 <DaedalusX> which ones?
Dec 15 23:39:27 <pixelized> gimme a sec
Dec 15 23:39:41 <pixelized> i remembre looking up those dependencies didn't have a spitz package
Dec 15 23:39:52 <DaedalusX> I highly doubt that :P
Dec 15 23:41:20 <pixelized> ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for angstrom-gpe-task-apps:
Dec 15 23:41:21 <pixelized>          gpe-edit gpe-gallery gpe-calculator gpe-clock gpe-plucker gpe-watch gpe-what gpe-aerial gpe-soundbite rosetta gpe-windowlis
Dec 15 23:41:47 <pixelized> i start gpe-edit
Dec 15 23:41:50 <pixelized> don't see a spitz package
Dec 15 23:42:10 <pixelized> unless the xscale falls into one of those
Dec 15 23:42:18 <DaedalusX> clearly you haven't set things up right... your device is based on the armv5te
Dec 15 23:42:34 <pixelized> the xscale is armv5te?
Dec 15 23:42:42 <DaedalusX> yep
Dec 15 23:43:03 <pixelized> sweet wasn't sure
Dec 15 23:43:11 <pixelized> hum
Dec 15 23:43:22 <pixelized> is used the install packages from the angstrom webpage
Dec 15 23:43:29 <pixelized> I have to setup something for ipkg?
Dec 15 23:43:34 <pixelized> even if it came from the spitz install kit?
Dec 15 23:44:00 <DaedalusX> you shouldn't have to
Dec 15 23:44:08 <pixelized> then ?!?!!?
Dec 15 23:44:13 <DaedalusX> your pda is hooked up to the net right?
Dec 15 23:45:21 <pixelized> yes it is
Dec 15 23:45:41 <pixelized> found the correct rndis for vista 
Dec 15 23:46:06 <DaedalusX> alright... run "ipkg print_architecture"
Dec 15 23:46:44 <pixelized> euh
Dec 15 23:46:46 <DaedalusX> what architectures show up?
Dec 15 23:47:03 <pixelized> gimme a sec
Dec 15 23:47:03 <DaedalusX> armv5te, iwmmxt, and spitz should be on there
Dec 15 23:47:07 <pixelized> they are
Dec 15 23:47:22 <pixelized> v4 and v4te as well
Dec 15 23:47:23 <pixelized> and all 
Dec 15 23:47:30 <pixelized> and any
Dec 15 23:47:30 <pixelized> lol
Dec 15 23:47:43 <DaedalusX> then you should be able to install this stuff... have you tried installing individual packages from angstrom-gpe-task-apps?
Dec 15 23:47:51 <DaedalusX> try just ipkg install gpe-edit
Dec 15 23:48:24 <pixelized> cannot find package i'd have to download it?!?!?!
Dec 15 23:49:48 <pixelized> mind u
Dec 15 23:49:59 <pixelized> ipkg update;ipkg upgrade worked
Dec 15 23:50:06 <DaedalusX> try pinging something
Dec 15 23:50:08 <DaedalusX> like google
Dec 15 23:50:16 <DaedalusX> you could've lost the connection.
Dec 15 23:50:21 <pixelized> nope
Dec 15 23:50:23 <pixelized> pinging google
Dec 15 23:50:25 <pixelized> working fine
Dec 15 23:50:38 <pixelized> i've downloaded some ipkg online\
Dec 15 23:50:57 <DaedalusX> are you sure your driver works right?
Dec 15 23:51:00 <DaedalusX> and isn't firewalled?
Dec 15 23:51:03 <DaedalusX> or something?
Dec 15 23:51:16 <pixelized> i've downloaded everything so far via wget
Dec 15 23:51:25 <DaedalusX> wait... you ipkg upgraded and it worked fine?
Dec 15 23:51:31 <pixelized> yup
Dec 15 23:51:39 <pixelized> ipkg update
Dec 15 23:51:42 <pixelized> ipkg upgrade = fine
Dec 15 23:52:27 <pixelized> so i'm baffled
Dec 15 23:52:34 <DaedalusX> what message does it give you?
Dec 15 23:52:44 <pixelized> when i did that?
Dec 15 23:52:51 <DaedalusX> yeah
Dec 15 23:52:53 <pixelized> that was hours ago it downloaded tons of stuff
Dec 15 23:52:58 <DaedalusX> no
Dec 15 23:53:02 <pixelized> mind u know it downloads again but ipkg upgrade says
Dec 15 23:53:03 <pixelized> nothing to do
Dec 15 23:53:04 <DaedalusX> when you ipkg install gpe-edit
Dec 15 23:53:33 <pixelized> hum
Dec 15 23:53:40 <pixelized> says it can't find the package let me run an ipkg list
Dec 15 23:53:57 <DaedalusX> I'll be back in about 20 minutes
Dec 15 23:54:46 <pixelized> weird
Dec 15 23:54:49 <pixelized> no gpe-edit in my list
Dec 15 23:57:04 <pixelized> seems like the ipkg update doesn't get all the files
Dec 16 00:00:29 <pixelized> DaedalusX just installed kismet without a snap gotta go config it now but that downloaded fine
Dec 16 00:30:43 <DaedalusX> back
Dec 16 00:31:06 <DaedalusX> pixelized, when you ipkg updated, did it say everything downloaded fine? look closely
Dec 16 00:31:13 <DaedalusX> it can be easy to miss an error message
Dec 16 00:48:40 <pixelized> checking
Dec 16 00:52:18 <pixelized> http://pastebin.ca/818019
Dec 16 00:53:01 <DaedalusX> weird, looks fine
Dec 16 00:57:06 <pixelized> DaedalusX indeed
Dec 16 00:58:17 <pixelized> weird
Dec 16 00:58:23 <pixelized> gpe-edit aint in my ipkg list
Dec 16 01:03:32 <DaedalusX> pixelized, I dunno then... sorry :(
Dec 16 01:06:32 <pixelized> it's really weird
Dec 16 01:26:40 <pixelized> wth
Dec 16 01:48:29 <pixelized> hum
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