**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Dec 16 03:00:02 2007
Dec 16 05:20:16 <DaedalusX> rockin, my wifi usb adapter works now :)
Dec 16 05:56:53 <Blue89> does angstrom use hardware float, or go directly to software float?
Dec 16 06:03:53 <Zero_Chaos> softfloat
Dec 16 07:52:36 <wozza> yo! anyone got bnep0 network exp?
Dec 16 07:53:21 <wozza> it there a package with pand? rfcomm? 
Dec 16 08:13:00 <bluelightning> wozza: most likely bluez-utils
Dec 16 08:13:13 <bluelightning> (I'm guessing, but it's likely to be that one)
Dec 16 08:24:21 <wozza> yeah thanks ipkg -force-reinstall bluez-utils
Dec 16 09:14:29 <nishinigam> hi team, good day. I  am trying to find out how the process of building angstrom using OE, selects the kernel source for building ?
Dec 16 09:15:35 <nishinigam> i want to build a patched kernel using OE (patched with android.diff) - patching the source files of 2.6.23 kernel version. After reading all the documents and googling, I couldn't find a place where OE picks up the kernel source during build time, which I can patch with android.diff. 
Dec 16 09:15:46 <nishinigam> any help understanding this will be appreciated. thx. 
Dec 16 15:10:49 <DaedalusX> hi all
Dec 16 15:11:01 <dcordes> DaedalusX: hey
Dec 16 15:11:11 <DaedalusX> what's up dcordes?
Dec 16 15:11:22 <dcordes> ah not much
Dec 16 15:11:25 <dcordes> lazy sunday
Dec 16 15:11:33 <dcordes> you?
Dec 16 15:11:42 <DaedalusX> getting snowed in :P
Dec 16 15:11:44 <barnarda> Snowbound = image testing, lol :)
Dec 16 15:11:54 <dcordes> )
Dec 16 15:11:59 <dcordes> :) no snow here
Dec 16 15:12:02 <DaedalusX> dcordes, got my wifi usb dongle (heheheheeh) in
Dec 16 15:12:05 <DaedalusX> works great
Dec 16 15:12:15 <dcordes> cool what chipset?
Dec 16 15:12:44 <barnarda> Lucky :P But I'd take snow where you are over any snow here. Best sledding ever up there :)
Dec 16 15:13:21 <dcordes> DaedalusX: I remember.. you had that paypal problem ^^ was the zydas right?
Dec 16 15:13:41 <DaedalusX> yep
Dec 16 15:13:52 <DaedalusX> it can be a little tricky with wifi radar for some reason
Dec 16 15:13:55 <DaedalusX> but it connects.
Dec 16 15:13:56 <dcordes> and which package/module do you use now?
Dec 16 15:14:05 <DaedalusX> the one from the kernel source damnit :P
Dec 16 15:14:12 <dcordes> I do it the iwconfig way
Dec 16 15:14:21 <DaedalusX> you just have to modify the settings on the kernel build in OE
Dec 16 15:14:29 <DaedalusX> and it will automatically make the package
Dec 16 15:14:31 <dcordes> DaedalusX: menuconfig?
Dec 16 15:16:19 <DaedalusX> yeah
Dec 16 15:16:37 <DaedalusX> for some reason that module wasn't set up in the akita build, but it works perfectly
Dec 16 15:16:45 <DaedalusX> you jsut have to tell it to build the modules and it's fine
Dec 16 15:17:11 <DaedalusX> dcordes, you DO need the firmware for the devices, but that's freely distributable
Dec 16 15:17:14 <dcordes> DaedalusX: they want to keep the standard kernel image as slim as possible
Dec 16 15:17:18 <DaedalusX> I'm gonna put together a bb file for it later
Dec 16 15:23:00 <dcordes> I wonder whether rt73.bin is freely avialable or not
Dec 16 15:25:18 <dcordes> DaedalusX: the reason I told you creating a module bb for zydas was that I thought compat wireless would not be available in linux-rp
Dec 16 15:25:31 <dcordes> I think rt73 is also available whithin compat now
Dec 16 15:25:36 <dcordes> have to check
Dec 16 15:26:03 <DaedalusX> dcordes, I don't think you understand... the code is in the kernel code now.
Dec 16 15:26:05 <DaedalusX> :P
Dec 16 15:26:18 <DaedalusX> that's where the latest versions of the drivers are
Dec 16 15:26:19 <dcordes> yes of course
Dec 16 15:26:23 <dcordes> I understand
Dec 16 15:26:35 <dcordes> what you configured is linux-rp isn't it?
Dec 16 15:26:38 <DaedalusX> all you need to do is turn on compiling the modules and bitbake makes ipks for it
Dec 16 15:26:42 <DaedalusX> yeah
Dec 16 15:26:45 <dcordes> so..
Dec 16 15:26:50 <DaedalusX> it just makes some module ipks
Dec 16 15:27:09 <dcordes> and I thought compat wireless would not be in linux-rp
Dec 16 15:27:15 <DaedalusX> ah, I understand you now
Dec 16 15:27:21 <DaedalusX> read your sentence wrong
Dec 16 15:27:23 <DaedalusX> yeah it's in there.
Dec 16 15:27:31 <dcordes> that's whay I said on your first attempt man it will be a hassle including the driver there
Dec 16 15:27:36 <dcordes> because you require patching
Dec 16 15:28:19 <dcordes> good to know it is in now
Dec 16 15:28:35 <dcordes> how exactly did you configure the kernel?
Dec 16 15:29:10 <dcordes> bitbake virtual/kernel -c configure then cded the $S dir and ran make config?
Dec 16 15:30:19 <DaedalusX> didn't need to add any directories
Dec 16 15:32:16 <DaedalusX> added "CONFIG_ZD1211RW=m", "CONFIG_CFG80211=m", "CONFIG_MAC80211=m", and "CONFIG_IEEE80211_SOFTMAC=m" to the defconfig-akita file
Dec 16 15:32:40 <dcordes> ah of course... why complicated when it's that easy
Dec 16 15:32:57 <dcordes> do you use mac80211?
Dec 16 15:34:35 <DaedalusX> it for some reason uses softmac
Dec 16 15:34:43 <DaedalusX> I dunno why yet... mac80211 is right there :P
Dec 16 15:34:50 <DaedalusX> probably some udev rules or something
Dec 16 15:34:50 <dcordes> I never dealt with it
Dec 16 20:17:22 <pixelized> hum having issues with the firefox package anybody tried it without seg faults here?
Dec 16 20:18:54 <mhentges> nah, it's broken. No fix in sight either :\
Dec 16 20:19:06 <pixelized> mhentges ok so i'm not crazy lol
Dec 16 20:19:13 <pixelized> no fix in sight either?? y is that?
Dec 16 20:20:01 <pixelized> y post a broken package?? u being sarcastic with me lol
Dec 16 20:20:05 <mhentges> It appears that one needs a _really_ bad-ass ARM box to debug the problem
Dec 16 20:20:52 <mhentges> try minimo, works fine here but needs some getting used to
Dec 16 20:21:17 <pixelized> hum
Dec 16 20:21:23 <pixelized> #define bad-ass arm box
Dec 16 20:21:54 <mhentges> multi-CPU and 4GB of RAM was the definition IIRC ;)
Dec 16 20:22:02 <pixelized> lol
Dec 16 20:22:55 <pixelized> that's insane lol
Dec 16 20:24:09 <mhentges> but not exactly unheard of either ;) Some devel boards probably fit the description heh
Dec 16 20:25:01 <pixelized> lol
Dec 16 20:25:09 <pixelized> thats one hell of an expensive devel board
Dec 16 20:25:35 <pixelized> weird tho posting a borked package
Dec 16 20:25:40 <mhentges> expensive is quite relative sometimes
Dec 16 20:25:51 <mhentges> pixelized: yes, it should be removed from the feeds
Dec 16 20:26:34 <pixelized> kk
Dec 16 20:31:46 <pixelized> hum
Dec 16 20:31:51 <pixelized> no flash support
Dec 16 20:31:55 * pixelized cries
Dec 16 20:32:20 <summatusmentis> iirc, the reason it was in the feeds was to allow for debugging. Also, the BSD distro for zaurus has firefox 2 working
Dec 16 20:32:57 <summatusmentis> has anyone else flashed the autobuild images for 5500 recently?
Dec 16 20:34:57 <pixelized> oh
Dec 16 20:35:08 <pixelized> no\
Dec 16 20:35:15 <pixelized> but i flashed the autobuild for the slc 3200
Dec 16 20:35:26 <summatusmentis> did it work?
Dec 16 20:35:28 <pixelized> updater.sh only good for upgrading hdimages and not flashing
Dec 16 20:35:29 <pixelized> nope
Dec 16 20:35:39 <pixelized> had to change the updater.sh to openzaurus updater.sh
Dec 16 20:35:48 <pixelized> the autobuild updater doesn't flash kernel
Dec 16 20:35:50 <summatusmentis> oh, you actually FLASHED it, I see
Dec 16 20:36:08 <summatusmentis> like, rootfs and everything
Dec 16 20:36:26 <pixelized> summatusmentis maybe i'm misunderstanding you
Dec 16 20:36:39 <summatusmentis> did you put everything in the 128MB of flash?
Dec 16 20:36:41 <pixelized> according to what i understood the kernel images go onto the 128mb flash
Dec 16 20:36:43 <pixelized> no
Dec 16 20:36:53 <summatusmentis> oh, ok, yes, afaik, kernel goes to flash
Dec 16 20:36:56 <pixelized> ok
Dec 16 20:37:12 <summatusmentis> I wish there were a way for a /boot
Dec 16 20:37:20 <pixelized> kernel wouldn't write cause the autobuild for spitz only has an updater.sh that writes hdimage
Dec 16 20:37:37 <summatusmentis> that's bothersome
Dec 16 20:37:39 <pixelized> and not kernel image so i changed to the old openzaurus updater.sh and then voila flashed the kernel and since then working fin e=)
Dec 16 20:38:19 <summatusmentis> you didn't need to go that far back, I think I've got an updater.sh that works
Dec 16 20:38:20 <pixelized> well fine my ipkg update didn't get all the package feeds but that's ok
Dec 16 20:38:36 <pixelized> summatusmentis didn't know ppl in here told me to get the openzaurus one
Dec 16 20:38:41 <pixelized> woked so i'm ok with that =)
Dec 16 20:39:50 <pixelized> now if only i can get the usb mass storage portion to work
Dec 16 20:41:07 <pixelized> that or install vsftpd
Dec 16 20:41:21 <pixelized> mind  you since ie7 i'd rather have the usb-mass storage
Dec 16 20:41:57 <summatusmentis> you want the z to act as a host? or to be a mass storage device?
Dec 16 20:42:13 <pixelized> i'd like it to act as mass storage device
Dec 16 20:42:23 <pixelized> but if that requires vfat partition then euh\
Dec 16 20:42:27 <pixelized> maybe not lol
Dec 16 20:42:44 <summatusmentis> it probably does, unless you have an ext2 driver for windows
Dec 16 20:43:03 <pixelized> summatusmentis or if there is a daemon that does conversion internaly on the zaurus
Dec 16 20:43:50 <pixelized> like an ftp server when you download or upload just send info...no cares about fs on the client side
Dec 16 20:44:05 <pixelized> which i'm assuming is possible for usb mass storage as well but unsure if it's been done or not
Dec 16 20:45:28 <summatusmentis> I haven't ever heard of anything like that. If you've got ssh installed, you can use SFTP
Dec 16 20:45:47 <pixelized> yeah my goal was to make it easier then that
Dec 16 20:45:56 <pixelized> it's fun to be able to drag and drop into an ftp
Dec 16 20:45:59 <pixelized> like ie6 used o
Dec 16 20:46:04 <pixelized> ie7 is freaking borked
Dec 16 20:46:15 <CoreDump> ...
Dec 16 20:46:18 <pixelized> usb mass storage = works on all pc's pretty easy
Dec 16 20:46:38 <pixelized> my point is i want to be able to bring this to any pc without needing to use the cmd line ftp in winbloze
Dec 16 20:46:49 <pixelized> or getting a 3rd part ftp client
Dec 16 20:47:02 <summatusmentis> mmm... I'm nost sure how usb mass storage works on the Z
Dec 16 20:47:11 <pixelized> well i tried enabling it
Dec 16 20:47:16 <pixelized> but everytime i got into gpe config
Dec 16 20:47:20 <pixelized> it's back to the ethernet one
Dec 16 20:47:30 * summatusmentis needs to reinstall his hdimage
Dec 16 20:47:44 <summatusmentis> my GPE doesn't start, X does, but not GPE
Dec 16 20:48:36 <pixelized> CoreDump ?? why the ...
Dec 16 21:33:31 <hrw> rwhitby: ping
Dec 16 23:24:14 <pixelized> quick question if i ipkg install someurl where it's ipkgs tmp...where does it download the file to temporarly?
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