**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Dec 22 02:59:56 2007 Dec 22 03:01:51 I clicked suspend in the GPE menu and it went black. Now it won't start at all. Dec 22 03:02:09 I just did a NAND restore and I can't get the OK + power on menu to show up >< Dec 22 03:12:06 Three's the charm. Time to reinstall angstrom :) Dec 22 03:12:23 hey Dec 22 03:12:27 Hello, bgold Dec 22 03:12:32 anyone willing to answer a really small question Dec 22 03:13:18 ;\ Dec 22 03:14:50 I'll be glad to answer if I can. Which I most likely can't ;) Dec 22 03:15:10 schme: did you have the poewr plugged in? Dec 22 03:15:21 Sketch: Yes. Dec 22 03:15:35 Sketch: For some reason it worked after the third NAND restore. Dec 22 03:15:49 some people have found suspend/resume does not work proeprly when the a/c adapter is plugged in Dec 22 03:15:56 i've found it sometimes works and sometimes doesn't Dec 22 03:16:14 though i haven't tested it on rc1 yet Dec 22 03:16:19 Oh. Dec 22 03:16:22 This is rc2 ;) Dec 22 03:16:30 well, I have the ambicom WL110C CF card, and well .. it keeps giving my zaurus a white screen glithc ;\ .. every rom ive tried .. anyone know why that would be? (sketch/schme) Dec 22 03:17:46 im currently on angstrom though since its the only rom that can support my 4gb sdhc card Dec 22 03:17:54 or that ;) Dec 22 03:18:02 ? Dec 22 03:18:10 bgold: I have no idea whatsoever. sowwy! Dec 22 03:18:57 :( .. without internet zaurus is useless .. one thing I didn't want to have a problem with..how ironic :( Dec 22 03:19:50 what do you mean by white screen glitch? it locks up when you put the card in? Dec 22 03:20:09 well, the screen kind of just fades white..and locks up my screen Dec 22 03:20:30 just out of no where..then when I take out my card, the screen goes back to its normal condition Dec 22 03:20:40 weird Dec 22 03:20:59 then I try to put my card back in, and the card doesn't recognize or turn on for that matter Dec 22 03:21:31 i haven't seen that happen Dec 22 03:21:36 i wonder if it might be a bad card Dec 22 03:21:41 who knows ;\ Dec 22 03:21:46 it shouldn't affect the screen brightnesss... Dec 22 03:21:54 well its not the screen brightness Dec 22 03:22:01 i have only seen the screen go white like that when the Z locks up Dec 22 03:22:06 yeh Dec 22 03:22:08 the Z locks up Dec 22 03:22:18 thats what i meant, it doesn't change the settings of the screen..just locks up the z Dec 22 03:22:25 ah Dec 22 03:22:31 but you said it goes back to normal after you remove the card? Dec 22 03:22:44 yeh Dec 22 03:23:05 that's pretty strange Dec 22 03:23:20 yeh, and this is a card thats supposed to work really well with the zaurus (so ive heard) Dec 22 03:23:53 yeah, if it's supposed to be a working one, i'd suspect maybe it's just broken Dec 22 03:24:12 ironicly, i bought it used from an amazon seller Dec 22 03:26:19 Is angstrom the only rom besides debian that supports sdhc? Dec 22 03:30:18 does right-click work at all in angstrom?, even though I set the pointermapping with xmodmap I still get button1 as click Dec 22 03:31:39 works for me Dec 22 03:33:26 the mapping is changed, xev reports a mapchange, and my monobut module prints out a changed map, but still the stylus can only generate button1 click Dec 22 03:35:01 sktech so what do you suggest I should do ;\ Dec 22 03:37:11 probably get another card Dec 22 03:37:37 unless you have another machine you can test the card in Dec 22 03:37:53 or another card you can test in the Z to make sure it's not a problem with the CF slot Dec 22 03:38:29 i have no machine with a Cf slot unfrotunatly Dec 22 03:38:58 i should of thought twice before buying something overseas that i knew i couldn't return Dec 22 03:39:02 i wasn't expecting this much of a hassle Dec 22 03:39:39 wait sketch Dec 22 03:39:47 do you know how to re-enable a card Dec 22 03:39:52 because when i take it out and put it back in Dec 22 03:40:02 i have to retard the zaurus to make it become enabled again Dec 22 03:40:14 is there some sort of command or something i can do to make it enable Dec 22 03:40:36 in angstrom? pccardctl 1 insert Dec 22 03:40:48 type that in terminal? Dec 22 03:41:09 (or might be 0 instead of 1 on onn-HD zauruses) Dec 22 03:41:11 yep Dec 22 03:41:31 you probably have to run "su -" first if you're not logged in as root Dec 22 03:42:09 are you sure its not just p"ccardctl insert" Dec 22 03:42:44 either way, i did insert and it didn't come back up ;\ Dec 22 03:43:14 but i did eject and then re-inserted the card and it is enabled now Dec 22 03:43:17 thanks for the info Dec 22 03:43:26 insert might work too Dec 22 03:43:27 now lets see how long it takes for the white screen to come up again ;\ Dec 22 03:43:38 actually the 0 or 1 should be after the insert i think anyway Dec 22 03:43:42 that just specifies which slot Dec 22 03:43:43 oh Dec 22 03:43:49 there is only 1 slot Dec 22 03:43:55 i forgot..i have the c1000 Dec 22 03:44:01 if you don't specify it tries to insert on any empty slots Dec 22 03:44:02 ah Dec 22 03:44:06 yeah, only 1 anyway then Dec 22 03:44:31 i usually add the slot # so i don't try to eject my 3100's HD ;) Dec 22 03:44:44 lol Dec 22 03:45:13 angstrom is so confusing but its the only one i can really use :| Dec 22 03:45:52 why? Dec 22 03:46:31 i have a 4gb SDHC card Dec 22 03:46:41 ah Dec 22 03:47:08 is sd card under /media/card or /media/mmc1 ? Dec 22 03:48:30 nvm Dec 22 03:55:01 yeh..it just turns off Dec 22 03:55:03 out of know where Dec 22 03:55:17 green lights on..then all of the sudden it just turns off Dec 22 03:57:51 one more question sketch..i promise Dec 22 03:57:59 how do i install something onto my sd card using ipkg? Dec 22 04:00:05 i don't know of an easy way to do it Dec 22 04:00:37 i know sharp rom and derivitives had a way to do it, but i never actually tried it Dec 22 04:02:13 oh alright Dec 22 04:02:14 GOT DAMIT Dec 22 04:02:22 im about to return this shit..white screen every 5 seconds now.. Dec 22 04:05:59 yeh..ipkg update: automatic lock up Dec 22 04:06:40 bgold: you add a destination in /etc/ipkg.conf, and install with ipkg -d destname package, but it's supposed to setup links, it doesn't do that here so I've just symlinked alot and added the destinations libdir to /etc/ld.so.conf Dec 22 04:07:28 alright thanks, doesn't really matter though .. not even able to install anything on any of my roms because my god dam zaurus locks up every time :( Dec 22 04:39:19 how do you turn off the zaurus.. Dec 22 04:39:29 like literally turn it off via angstrom Dec 22 04:44:02 halt ? Dec 22 04:44:37 dunno thats why im askin Dec 22 04:46:52 "poewroff" Dec 22 04:47:08 type that in terminal? Dec 22 04:48:37 yeah, that will work Dec 22 04:48:43 kk Dec 22 04:48:49 wierd how there is no button Dec 22 04:50:15 i guess they figure you wouldn't want to shut it down, just put it to sleep Dec 22 04:50:20 which is probably the case 99% of the time Dec 22 04:50:26 well my keyboard wasn't working Dec 22 04:51:20 ever experience any of these problems :| Dec 22 04:51:35 nope Dec 22 04:51:45 sad thing is, i seriously doubt its my card ;\ Dec 22 04:51:59 i saw someone earlier say the keyboard was broken in xterm but worked in rxvt Dec 22 04:52:08 like I am going to waste another $50 and buy another CF Card .. and its probably going to do the same exact thing..white screen all over Dec 22 04:52:14 (rxvt is the default in qpe, that's all i've tried) Dec 22 04:52:29 well you cant do shit like ifconfig in rxvt Dec 22 04:52:39 wait Dec 22 04:52:46 is there even that on angstron Dec 22 04:53:20 ... Dec 22 04:53:24 rxvt is just a different terminal app Dec 22 04:53:33 oh Dec 22 04:53:34 you can do anything in it you can do in any other terminal Dec 22 04:53:59 well i wouldnlt know because everytime i try to get a dam package my Z goes kaput Dec 22 04:54:38 what card do you use? Dec 22 04:54:56 or do you use a wireless CF Card? Dec 22 04:55:36 i have a dlink card Dec 22 04:55:48 work nice? Dec 22 04:56:09 though after reading http://www.oesf.org/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t18274.html Dec 22 04:56:14 i'm tempted to try the same one you have ;) Dec 22 04:56:26 "Compared to the average prism card that I have tried such as Netgear or Dlink - it is slimmer, uses less power and has a better range." Dec 22 04:56:42 ugh Dec 22 04:56:45 i love mine Dec 22 04:56:48 if it worked.. Dec 22 04:58:15 anyway, i need to get to bed Dec 22 04:58:17 later... Dec 22 05:00:54 cya Dec 22 05:36:18 anybody had sound working in their Z in angstrom RCx.x? Dec 22 05:54:46 xjqian: works here, c860 Dec 22 06:16:34 tobb: thanks. could you pastbin your asound.state Dec 22 06:19:17 xjqian: http://pastebin.org/12472 Dec 22 06:22:43 tobb: that's the default one shipped by Angstrom. You don't have to modify anything? Dec 22 06:23:38 xjqian: nope Dec 22 06:26:06 thanks Dec 22 08:02:54 how to commit my bb recipes? i think my gtk+-directfb series recipes could work now. Dec 22 10:41:36 does anybody know who to find out if an installed Linux system is 64 or 32 bit? Dec 22 10:42:07 *how Dec 22 10:43:28 uname -a ? Dec 22 10:44:03 Linux mhcln05 2.6.23.12test01 #2 SMP Fri Dec 21 16:43:13 CET 2007 i686 GNU/Linux Dec 22 10:44:38 32 bit if there is no AMD64 Dec 22 10:44:49 thanks Dec 22 17:29:48 you guys said the reason why I can't get e-wm or bzflag is because they are not for my architecture, but they are... bzflag is ONLY for armv5te on your site Dec 22 17:36:07 e-wm used to work some times ago when i was under angstrom Dec 22 17:36:30 did you follow the wiki ? Dec 22 17:38:54 it says all I have to do is "ipkg install e-wm" Dec 22 17:39:21 but e-wm is among the packages that, for no apparent reason, I can't get Dec 22 17:40:46 http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/ <-- is this repo not the same one as ipkg uses? Dec 22 17:41:02 or does that require something along the lines of bitbake? Dec 22 17:44:59 Blue89: I think you have the same problem that I had. Tons of packages on the site package browser but ipkg list shows almost none of 'em.. I added the unstable feeds and then it worked. Dec 22 17:45:31 Blue89: There is no information on that in the wiki, I might add ;) Dec 22 17:46:00 basically new images use new feeds Dec 22 17:46:10 and new feeds are not yet so populated with software Dec 22 17:46:11 bye Dec 22 17:46:22 hrw|gone: Bye. Thx for the info :) Dec 22 18:50:10 just great... I get the unstable feed working, and install e-wm, and now it dies, complaining that Evas was compiled without software buffer support. I can't win X-D Dec 22 18:50:24 oh well Dec 22 19:15:18 and to top it all off, I finally got bzflag installed, and it's not the game... it's only the server. Dec 22 19:18:05 hey Dec 22 19:18:13 anyone have the SL-C1000? Dec 22 19:31:07 * CoreDump|bbl nope's Dec 22 19:31:37 me neither Dec 22 19:31:59 what's your problem anyway Dec 22 19:38:09 my ambicom suppsoevly is giving to much power to my c1000, wondering what everyone that has a c1000 uses Dec 22 19:38:23 freezes my z, turns off periodicly, just plain crap Dec 22 19:43:29 well, my noname WLAN card does that as well, but it has some broken leads on the PCB... Dec 22 19:44:27 oh, yeh well I am just trying to find a good CF Card that has been known to work for the C1000 ..looking at the Dec 22 19:44:27 D-Link DCF-660w at the moment Dec 22 19:47:58 sorry, can't help you Dec 22 19:48:41 np Dec 22 19:50:33 I've got a spectrum24 card, and I don't seem to have that problem... Dec 22 19:53:12 i cant find the spectrum24 card for sale anywhere :| Dec 22 19:53:19 I bought mine on ebay Dec 22 19:53:32 you've got a USB host on the akita right? Dec 22 19:54:09 right Dec 22 19:54:35 yeh Dec 22 19:55:07 why? Dec 22 19:55:07 so why not use usb wifi? Dec 22 19:55:38 getting drivers might be tricky Dec 22 19:55:51 but I never tried Dec 22 19:55:58 its not an actual usb .. its mini usb Dec 22 19:56:36 heh Dec 22 19:56:49 get yourself a proper host-cable Dec 22 19:56:51 there's a linksys one that I know works Dec 22 19:57:05 blocks the ports Dec 22 19:57:12 and the other one that doesn't is $100 Dec 22 19:57:16 what ports? Dec 22 19:57:25 not ports sorry, blocks the stylus Dec 22 19:57:27 That's a very nice idea with the USB wifi. It would leave the CF slot free for oooh.. 16GB of storage space. Dec 22 19:57:44 it does? Dec 22 19:57:49 how? does it block the stylus? Dec 22 19:57:53 schme: well, if you need that kind of space, should have gone with a spitz Dec 22 19:57:54 -? Dec 22 19:58:03 summatusmentis: he is talking about CF again Dec 22 19:58:09 oh Dec 22 19:58:11 yeh Dec 22 19:58:20 there is no wireless usb for mini-usb Dec 22 19:58:23 CoreDump: how does spitz get you 16GB? Dec 22 19:58:23 so that is out of the question Dec 22 19:58:39 bgold: you can buy a mini-usb -> usb female cable Dec 22 19:58:44 eh Dec 22 19:58:57 still..i have spent to much money on the thing, cant go spending more on that Dec 22 19:59:02 CoreDump: I don't need that kind of space and I have a terrier here ;) Dec 22 19:59:06 summatusmentis: swap the MD for a 16Gb CF Dec 22 19:59:12 schme: =D Dec 22 19:59:26 !!! I didn't know that was possibl Dec 22 19:59:28 i just need a cf wireless card that works for AKITA, ambicom is supposed to work for all..but now I see that ironicly the one type of Z i have .. there has been known problems with it Dec 22 19:59:28 possible Dec 22 19:59:29 CoreDump: Plugging in a 16GB CF would give me 22GB total. It's insane really:D Dec 22 19:59:53 bgold: any PRISM 2.5 card should work Dec 22 19:59:58 schme: insane indeed Dec 22 20:00:10 * schme goes mini-usb wifi browsing. Dec 22 20:00:24 on the oesf supported sites, it says its prism is 2.5..but when i pull up the info on my Z, i find that it has a prism of 3.0 Dec 22 20:00:32 I use maybe 500Mb on my spitz...and that is with 3 installed rootfs's Dec 22 20:01:06 CoreDump: http://www.oesf.org/index.php?title=Wireless_Card_Support <=, thats where i checked Dec 22 20:01:14 bgold, I guess you're fix3r on oesf, right? Dec 22 20:01:19 correct Dec 22 20:01:35 okay, well mine is Prism 3 as you know Dec 22 20:01:44 yeh so is mine Dec 22 20:01:47 did you try the power management stuff? Dec 22 20:01:57 yeh Dec 22 20:02:05 ok, so it doesn't work, hmm Dec 22 20:02:16 Mmm.. I very much doubt I'll use up the 6gb space. Sure I'll use 1.5gb of it for various snes roms.. other than thatit wil just be ssource code. I very much doubt I will need 20 gb of space to store source code :D Dec 22 20:02:28 it doens't matter though, i want to use aircrack and things for my Z and since the oesf site said it was prism 2.5 i got it, now i realize it is not 2.5 so I need another CF Card anyways Dec 22 20:02:40 the only way I'm thinking I'd use the 6GB is w/ video Dec 22 20:03:01 okay, I haven't tried aircrack yet, but Kismet works perfectly Dec 22 20:03:17 i havent had a chance to do anything with my Zaurus, since I can't get the internet to work.. Dec 22 20:03:26 but I guess the power management won't work then, since it's not idling anyway Dec 22 20:03:55 I was able to browse the internet for about 3 minutes on my original zaurus rom and openZaurus but it didn't do me any good because when I tried installing packages, or when i was browing, my z locked up Dec 22 20:04:05 bgold: I know a place where you can get a 100% working card: trisoft.de. If you say it is for a Z they will make sure it works Dec 22 20:04:44 Icould easily fill it with audio. But the almost filled 80gb drive in my mp3 player seems a better place for that :) Dec 22 20:04:50 alright thanks, ill take a look Dec 22 20:05:42 CoreDump: it says ambicom is a great card to buy on the front page of the wifi section of their site.. Dec 22 20:05:51 which is clearly not the case Dec 22 20:06:32 dude Dec 22 20:06:49 they sell CF WLAN cards for the Z Dec 22 20:06:54 it _does_ work Dec 22 20:07:09 yes, it will work Dec 22 20:07:17 I bought from them many times, best customer support I've seen in a looooong time Dec 22 20:07:20 perhaps your card is really just broken Dec 22 20:07:38 was it included with your Zaurus or did you buy it separately? Dec 22 20:07:55 seperatly Dec 22 20:08:20 thats why on many posts in oesf..the people that have a c1000 .. specificly say that the abicom does the exact same things that happens to me? is that coincidance? I think no Dec 22 20:08:46 okay, now I see Dec 22 20:09:39 it doesn't matter though, I bought it beacuse oesf support wifi says it was a PRISM 2.5, but it really is a PRISM 3.0 -> I dont want a prism 3.0 .. i want a prism 2/2.5 card so I can use aircrack .. so it doens't matter if my ambicom works or didn't work .. i need a prism 2/2.5 card and just want to make sure that the next card I get will work Dec 22 20:13:53 and I told you to call / email trisoft.de with that information and they will help you. That is the best way to get a 100% working card. Dec 22 20:14:27 an email doesn't hurt *shrug* Dec 22 20:14:29 CoreDump: ohhhh, my bad .. I didn't listen to you correctly .. I thought you said just look at the site and get the one that they tell you to get(which was the ambicom) Dec 22 20:14:56 I don't know german though :| Dec 22 20:15:32 Is there any specific reason why /dev/hda3 should be vfat? Dec 22 20:15:37 "The card is recognized automatically by the Zaurus and is ready to use after entering the usual data" Dec 22 20:15:51 write in english Dec 22 20:16:10 alright Dec 22 20:16:15 they ship worldwide IIRC Dec 22 20:16:20 bbiab Dec 22 20:16:31 schme: what are hda1 and hda2? Dec 22 20:17:10 Only one they sell is AmbiCom(which doesn't work and doesn't have a prism 2/2.5 set) Dec 22 20:18:12 summatusmentis: ext2 Dec 22 20:19:21 summatusmentis: Actually I have my hda3 formatted as ext2 too. It is just that the angstrom fstab wants to mount it as vfat, and the wiki says I should format it as such. I'm just wondering if there is a good reason for me not to have it as ext2 Dec 22 20:20:41 I assume because vfat is standard across the board, and if you want to use it as a usb mass storage device, it needs vfat Dec 22 20:21:39 I see. Dec 22 20:21:55 Sounds like I'll just set fstab to ext2 ;) Dec 22 20:23:03 yeah, that's what I'd do, especially if you're not using it in a windows env at all Dec 22 20:23:14 bgold: Why did you buy a prism 3 if that is not what you wanted? Dec 22 20:23:15 I've got... 6 partitions Dec 22 20:23:25 http://www.oesf.org/index.php?title=Wireless_Card_Support Dec 22 20:23:35 schme: it says its 2.5! Dec 22 20:23:55 Yeah. My ambicom is 2.5 Dec 22 20:23:56 isn't 3.0 -> 2.5 just a matter of firmware? Dec 22 20:24:40 No clue Dec 22 20:25:02 I have no way of downgrading it anyways..and will that really help my C1000? Dec 22 20:25:18 because if it doesn't work with the new firmware..it wouldn't work with the old would it? Dec 22 20:25:47 I'm guessing it won't help at all. Dec 22 20:26:28 yeh Dec 22 20:26:49 I am looking at the DLink DCF-660W as a possibility Dec 22 20:38:21 bgold: Does the card work with the sharp OS ? Dec 22 21:04:16 schme: only for a little bit Dec 22 21:07:07 it turns off periodicly still Dec 22 21:07:44 That blows. Dec 22 21:13:11 yes'r Dec 22 21:31:04 Does anyone use the Linksys WCF12? Dec 22 21:31:06 CF Dec 22 21:47:40 bgold: I do Dec 22 21:48:01 tobb: is it nice? what zaurus do you have? Dec 22 21:48:09 c860 Dec 22 21:48:15 or better yet, do you recommend it for a c1000 user Dec 22 21:48:33 it's the only card I've tried so.., but it works Dec 22 21:48:56 alright, I think i might get it then..because my ambicom is producing to much power for my z to handle supposevly Dec 22 21:49:31 it melted once when I fell asleep, the zaurus ended up under a pillow, so it's a little bent but works :) Dec 22 21:50:16 lol Dec 22 21:50:46 but yea it works nice with aircrack, injecting packages while capturing Dec 22 21:50:56 packets even Dec 22 21:51:12 YES thats what i wanted to here Dec 22 21:51:27 was just about to ask you that Dec 22 21:52:03 i found a really cheap price for one Dec 22 21:52:16 $35 Dec 22 21:52:34 I'd buy it Dec 22 21:52:38 just did Dec 22 21:53:10 it really sucked, i bougt the ambicom and recived my zaurus the same day Dec 22 21:53:22 put it in all excited..was so bad Dec 22 21:53:26 white screen of death Dec 22 21:53:46 hehe yea that's a weird error Dec 22 21:54:13 have you heard anyhting about ambicom's not working under akita? Dec 22 21:54:39 your card's defective, has nothing to do with it being an Ambicom Dec 22 21:55:00 oh Dec 22 21:55:12 w/e, i don't really care as long as its nothing to do with my zaurus Dec 22 21:55:27 because the guy is letting me send it back to him Dec 22 22:02:19 does anyone know why the root terminal offers more commands then the regular terminal even fi I become root? Dec 22 22:02:22 (angstrom) Dec 22 22:02:34 su - Dec 22 22:03:10 (note the dash} Dec 22 22:05:59 gotchya Dec 22 22:08:10 whats the - do? Dec 22 22:15:16 replaces your shell ENV with the targets shell ENV Dec 22 22:16:05 thank you Dec 22 22:20:44 np Dec 23 01:23:23 hahaha wow my ambicom really !@#$'s up my zaurus Dec 23 01:23:48 i put it in, i look at the cpu monitor, cpu: 86%; memory: 98742302% Dec 23 01:23:55 that is exact numbers, not even lieing **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Dec 23 02:59:56 2007