**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Dec 29 02:59:56 2007
Dec 29 04:09:00 <bgold> schme you there?
Dec 29 05:10:53 <agittins> bgold: just fyi, and I don't know if this will help you, but the two times I've got "Anonymous Memory" come up when inserting a wifi card was when the cards were broken. I've had two or three Netgear MA701's (afaik, identical to the ambicom ones) and they all failed eventually, probably due to cracks on the circuit board due to how they are constructed.
Dec 29 05:11:14 <agittins> When inserting, they come up as "anonymous memory" and won't work
Dec 29 05:11:48 <agittins> sometimes, you can apply pressure forward or backwards and they come to life (i ran one for several months with a piece of cardboard jammed in front of the card to make it work).
Dec 29 05:12:40 <agittins> now it sometimes works for a short period of time, but after a few minutes it tends to die, regardless of applying pressure.
Dec 29 06:37:14 <bgold> agottoms, it would be pretty ironic that the 3 CF cards i have bought have been broken don't you think?
Dec 29 06:44:24 <tobb> bgold: you've bought a third one now?
Dec 29 06:44:31 <bgold> yes :|
Dec 29 06:44:59 <bgold> im about to return all of them and in the process of asking direct from japan for a return
Dec 29 06:45:05 <summatusmentis> wireless card?
Dec 29 06:45:06 <summatusmentis> ouch
Dec 29 06:45:24 <bgold> i mean, if this is what i have to go through, forking over $120+ for a wireless card and have all 3 of them broken?!?!
Dec 29 06:45:28 <bgold> i mean come on
Dec 29 06:52:22 <bgold> whats up schme
Dec 29 06:52:27 <schme> Hey.
Dec 29 06:52:35 <schme> Trying to figure out why my NFS broke down.
Dec 29 06:52:46 <bgold> NFS would be?
Dec 29 06:52:59 <schme> You are kidding me?
Dec 29 06:53:16 <bgold> yeh, thats why i asked you. because i am "kidding" with you.. ;\
Dec 29 06:53:31 <bgold> im not good with acronyms
Dec 29 06:53:45 <schme> ;)
Dec 29 06:54:28 <schme> NFS is not a very uncommon acronym. It is very much more common than saying Network File System.
Dec 29 06:54:56 <bgold> gotchya
Dec 29 06:55:40 <bgold> well, right now while your fixing that..i am staring at my paper weight zaurus pushing in my CF card in and out and praying to god it would work! haha
Dec 29 06:55:47 <schme> The protocol is very much more known as NFS though. It has been the unix way of mounting remote file systems since 84
Dec 29 06:56:00 <bgold> i knew that ;P
Dec 29 06:56:05 <schme> Have you installed angstroms console image yet?
Dec 29 06:56:13 <schme> I needs NFS to cross compile.
Dec 29 06:56:47 <bgold> why console just asking?
Dec 29 06:56:48 <summatusmentis> your zaurus doesn't need wifi to be productive bgold 
Dec 29 06:56:59 <summatusmentis> was wifi working on sharp rom?
Dec 29 06:57:22 <schme> bgold: Well anyone really. Doesn't matter.
Dec 29 06:57:44 <bgold> summatusmentis, for the reason I bought it, it needs wifi or i could give a shit less about it .. sharp rom doesn't detect my linksys, my ambicom worked for about 5 minutes on my sharp rom before giving me the white screen of death
Dec 29 06:58:56 <schme> Did you buy it second hand?
Dec 29 06:59:00 <schme> I mean the Z.
Dec 29 06:59:18 <bgold> i bought it from "direct from japan"
Dec 29 06:59:40 <summatusmentis> www.pricejapan.com
Dec 29 06:59:41 <bgold> so yeh, i guess you could say I did, the box seemed to be used
Dec 29 06:59:48 <bgold> nah ebay.com store
Dec 29 06:59:57 <summatusmentis> oh really? hmm
Dec 29 07:00:43 <bgold> yup
Dec 29 07:01:49 <schme> But you can mount a cf memory card on it and use that?
Dec 29 07:02:05 <schme> I mean from angstrom. Not just to install and flash it.
Dec 29 07:02:20 <bgold> yes
Dec 29 07:02:24 <schme> That is good.
Dec 29 07:02:40 <schme> I still say install angstrom and we can sift through the dmesg.
Dec 29 07:02:50 <bgold> schme, installing angstrom right now .. just had to find my sd reader
Dec 29 07:03:50 <bgold> the thing that troubles me is, people say on bootup the card should atleast blink
Dec 29 07:04:25 <tobb> if you push in and out atleast
Dec 29 07:04:45 <bgold> mine doesn't
Dec 29 07:04:48 <schme> My thinking is that if the memory card works then atleas the cf bus is not broken.
Dec 29 07:04:53 <bgold> havent see one spec of light on the dam thing
Dec 29 07:05:08 <schme> Where are you getting all these wifi cards?
Dec 29 07:05:22 <bgold> 2: amazon; 1: ebay
Dec 29 07:05:30 <tobb> schme: are you sure memcards use all the same pins as a wificard?
Dec 29 07:05:38 <schme> tobb: Good point.
Dec 29 07:06:05 <tobb> it is strange though...
Dec 29 07:06:05 <bgold> guys, if i ever see you on the streets .. run away .. far away .. my luck sucks ass ;\
Dec 29 07:06:30 <schme> Can't you test the cards in some other machine?
Dec 29 07:06:44 <bgold> what other machine supports these dam cf cards besides pda's ;\
Dec 29 07:06:56 <bgold> i have nothing to test it with..which is why i am in this prediciment
Dec 29 07:07:42 <bgold> god dam angstrom takes a while to book up
Dec 29 07:07:48 <bgold> boot*
Dec 29 07:08:07 <bgold> its loading x
Dec 29 07:08:33 <schme> Yes.. unless you have a console image ;)
Dec 29 07:08:54 <bgold> lol
Dec 29 07:09:44 <bgold> alright
Dec 29 07:09:48 <bgold> lets stick in this peice of crap
Dec 29 07:11:00 <bgold> pccardctl ident: socket 0: no information available
Dec 29 07:11:19 <bgold> where should is tart schme? :P
Dec 29 07:11:24 <bgold> start*
Dec 29 07:12:22 <schme> In a root console.
Dec 29 07:12:54 <bgold> yessir
Dec 29 07:13:39 <schme> dmesg | grep pcmcia
Dec 29 07:14:57 <bgold> <6> pcmcia: detected deprecated pcmcia ioctl usage from process
Dec 29 07:15:08 <bgold> this interface will be removed from the kernerl
Dec 29 07:15:24 <bgold> something about seeing some website for details
Dec 29 07:15:28 <schme> That's a funny one.
Dec 29 07:15:48 <bgold> w/e that means :|
Dec 29 07:16:41 <bgold> guessing that command was useless lol
Dec 29 07:16:49 <schme> What webpage would that be?
Dec 29 07:17:01 <schme> No it was great information there.
Dec 29 07:17:23 <schme> Was that all the output the grep gave?
Dec 29 07:17:27 <bgold> http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/pcmcia/pcmcia.html
Dec 29 07:17:44 <bgold> please expect breakage unless you upgrade to new tools
Dec 29 07:17:46 <bgold> thats it
Dec 29 07:18:31 <schme> What angstrom image is this?
Dec 29 07:18:41 <bgold> Angstrom-x11-image-glibc-ipk-2007.12-akita-installkit.tgz
Dec 29 07:19:56 <schme> What about dmesg | grep pccard?
Dec 29 07:20:30 <bgold> pcmcia card inserted into slot 0
Dec 29 07:20:35 <schme> cools.
Dec 29 07:20:54 <bgold> nothing more nothing less
Dec 29 07:21:09 <bgold> if only this thing had builtin wireless .. i would have 0 problems! lol
Dec 29 07:21:34 <schme> Did it not mention what ioctl call it was?
Dec 29 07:21:49 <bgold> no it didnt
Dec 29 07:22:00 <bgold> wait
Dec 29 07:22:05 <bgold> gpe-conf
Dec 29 07:22:27 <schme> Wow.
Dec 29 07:22:36 <bgold> ?
Dec 29 07:23:13 <schme> From what I remember from some discussions on lkml the whole ioctl on pcmcia has been scheduled for removal for some time so I'm amazed that gpe uses it.. But..
Dec 29 07:23:26 <schme> Try `modprobe pcmcia'
Dec 29 07:23:41 <bgold> k
Dec 29 07:23:46 <bgold> did it
Dec 29 07:24:06 <schme> lsmod | grep pcmcia
Dec 29 07:24:33 <bgold> pcmcia - 0
Dec 29 07:24:43 <bgold> pcmcia_core -2; pcmcia, pxa2xx_core
Dec 29 07:24:46 <bgold> thats it
Dec 29 07:25:11 <schme> Kk.
Dec 29 07:25:23 <schme> How aboots   `dmesg | grep orinoco'
Dec 29 07:25:44 <bgold> nothing
Dec 29 07:26:23 <schme> modprobe orinoco
Dec 29 07:26:38 <bgold> k
Dec 29 07:26:58 <schme> lsmod | grep orinoco
Dec 29 07:27:14 <bgold> orinoco - 0
Dec 29 07:27:19 <bgold> hermes - 1 ; orinoco
Dec 29 07:27:32 <schme> well that is good.  `iwconfig' ?
Dec 29 07:27:48 <bgold> lo - no wireless extensions
Dec 29 07:27:53 <schme> bah
Dec 29 07:27:56 <bgold> irda0 - same
Dec 29 07:27:59 <bgold> usb0 - same
Dec 29 07:28:41 <schme> Does ifconfig -a mention your wifi or wlan ?
Dec 29 07:28:58 <bgold> lo, usb0
Dec 29 07:29:03 <bgold> thats it
Dec 29 07:29:13 <schme> pffft.
Dec 29 07:30:00 <humorum> insmod orinoco
Dec 29 07:30:03 <humorum> insmod orinoco_cs
Dec 29 07:30:35 <bgold> insmod: can't read 'orinoco': no such file or directory
Dec 29 07:30:42 <tobb> use modprobe
Dec 29 07:31:17 <schme> bgold: If all else fails try an openbsd or netbsd install on it.
Dec 29 07:31:18 <bgold> FATAL: Module orinoco_cs not found
Dec 29 07:31:37 <bgold> schme, im done trying roms ;\
Dec 29 07:32:04 <bgold> i have tried Open Zaurus, regular sharp rom, cacko, pdaxii beta 3, pdaxii13, angstrom
Dec 29 07:32:11 <schme> Yes all linux.
Dec 29 07:32:17 <bgold> i quit
Dec 29 07:32:19 <bgold> lol
Dec 29 07:32:19 <humorum> find /lib/modules -name "orinoco*"
Dec 29 07:33:01 <humorum> and you can modprobe, or insmod with full path.
Dec 29 07:33:09 <bgold> kk
Dec 29 07:33:16 <bgold> well
Dec 29 07:33:17 <schme> There is no orinoco_cs  atleast in RC2.
Dec 29 07:33:18 <bgold> it only has
Dec 29 07:33:20 <bgold> orinoco.ko
Dec 29 07:33:24 <bgold> nothing about orinoco_cs
Dec 29 07:33:24 <schme> Ya.
Dec 29 07:33:35 <humorum> hmm
Dec 29 07:33:57 <humorum> then, hostap and hostap_cs
Dec 29 07:34:20 <bgold> i think this is a lost cause
Dec 29 07:34:28 <bgold> for one, because the light doesn't turn on
Dec 29 07:34:29 <bgold> ever
Dec 29 07:34:35 <bgold> and i think it is supposed to when it boots up
Dec 29 07:34:37 <bgold> which it doesn't
Dec 29 07:35:40 <bgold> but hey, if u guys think it will help .. i will try hostap
Dec 29 07:35:41 <schme> I suggest you try an openbsd install.
Dec 29 07:36:02 <bgold> don't even know how to
Dec 29 07:36:08 <schme> google.
Dec 29 07:36:43 <bgold> no more googling .. im done..i have lost my will to get this to work
Dec 29 07:36:52 <schme> http://www.openbsd.org/zaurus.html
Dec 29 07:37:18 <schme> Though openbsd is a tad bit slower than linux.
Dec 29 07:37:38 <bgold> great
Dec 29 07:37:57 <bgold> bsd doesn't support c1000
Dec 29 07:38:06 <bgold> only 3k, 31k, 32k
Dec 29 07:38:24 <schme> Oh too bad.
Dec 29 07:38:32 <bgold> lol
Dec 29 07:38:34 <bgold> yup
Dec 29 07:39:06 <schme> Is there much difference though?
Dec 29 07:39:25 <bgold> well
Dec 29 07:39:30 <bgold> c1000 has no hardrive
Dec 29 07:39:35 <bgold> 3, 31, 32 probably does
Dec 29 07:39:39 <humorum> once I installed into my 760, and it is too hard to install it...
Dec 29 07:39:51 <bgold> but don't worry, judging my luck, this ebay guy that knows half the english language probably won't let me return it
Dec 29 07:40:11 <bgold> Hello. We are totally surprise because all zaurus are full tested including the slot card (SD and CF). we are totally sure than both are totally and fully working.
Dec 29 07:40:16 <bgold> he is TOTALLY SURPISE
Dec 29 07:40:40 <schme> bgold: I have seen videos of people running openbsd on the 1000.
Dec 29 07:41:02 <bgold> well, if its not supported, it probably means its way to hard for an average joe like me to install
Dec 29 07:41:05 <bgold> so that rules it out
Dec 29 07:41:46 <humorum> bgold: what is your rom in your Z ?
Dec 29 07:41:49 <schme> Oh well time for a fag.
Dec 29 07:41:52 <bgold> any one you want
Dec 29 07:42:08 <bgold> humorum, right now i have angstrom .. but i have tried them all
Dec 29 07:42:14 <humorum> if you use angstrom, 
Dec 29 07:42:28 <humorum> card information is stored in
Dec 29 07:42:34 <humorum>  /sys/devices/platform/sharp-scoop.0/pxa2xx-pcmcia/
Dec 29 07:42:54 <bgold> hmm
Dec 29 07:43:36 <humorum> if not, the card itself is recognized and the card is somthing strange you said
Dec 29 07:43:52 <humorum> is not recognized
Dec 29 07:44:53 <bgold> sharp-scoop.0 is not a folder in there
Dec 29 07:45:35 <humorum> hmm
Dec 29 07:46:29 <bgold> well im done giving myself false hope..come on now .. plenty of people have gotten this to work and even schme, you, tobb, and mayn more don't know wtf to say
Dec 29 07:46:42 <bgold> so yeh, im out for tonight..thanks for trying to help..ttyl
Dec 29 07:47:40 <humorum> good night
Dec 29 09:02:55 <^root^> Hi!
Dec 29 09:03:14 <^root^> i want to install angstrom on my Song Ericsson P910i, is it possible?
Dec 29 09:03:38 <^root^> I have a usb data cable and have my cell phone connected to my system as a device
Dec 29 09:08:43 <^root^> anybody alve?
Dec 29 09:39:26 <schme> ^root^: Is it even possible to reflash it?
Dec 29 09:58:34 <tobb> sweet, my pdfreader actually works
Dec 29 10:02:42 <schme> Wrote it yerself?
Dec 29 10:06:59 <tobb> yea, I couldn't find any pdfreaders that could open really big pdfs in the feed
Dec 29 10:07:39 <schme> Oh nice :)
Dec 29 10:07:43 <cyrilRomain> morning
Dec 29 10:07:51 <schme> mornin'
Dec 29 10:09:45 <tobb> are there any tools in the feed to overclock c7x0's?
Dec 29 10:20:01 <humorum> tobb: if you use special kernel, try /proc/cccr_change
Dec 29 10:21:21 <tobb> humorum: have no cccr* files, what do you mean by special kernel?
Dec 29 10:23:06 <humorum> tobb: special kernel is alternative kernel of original rom, and you can change the clock with write /proc/cccr_change
Dec 29 10:23:57 <tobb> humorum: which kernel is that? I can set it to PREFFERED in my local.conf
Dec 29 10:24:32 <humorum> hmm
Dec 29 10:25:33 <humorum> can angstrom change the clock without kernel patch ?
Dec 29 10:35:12 <tobb> maybe it's only in the 2.4kernels, can't find any cccr patches that arent applied
Dec 29 10:37:05 <humorum> on kernel 2.6, cpufreq patch is exist, and it is based on angstrom
Dec 29 10:37:31 <humorum> oh, sorry
Dec 29 10:37:37 <humorum> not on angstrom, but on debian
Dec 29 10:37:55 <tobb> I can change the cpufreq though, but not to turbo mode
Dec 29 10:39:54 <humorum> you mean, your zaurun does not work at 624MHz ?
Dec 29 10:40:39 <tobb> I have a c7x0
Dec 29 10:41:00 <tobb> so it's at 398, but I wan't to clock it to 471
Dec 29 10:41:44 <humorum> is the voltage enough ?
Dec 29 10:42:18 <tobb> I've done it before on older roms, so I guess so :)
Dec 29 10:46:21 <humorum> forcely changed to 398 if you set to 471, or hangup ?
Dec 29 10:47:12 <humorum> voltage problem often cause hangup with white flashing...
Dec 29 10:47:49 <tobb> I don't know how to set it to 471, sys/blabla/cpufreq/scaling_available_frequencies has 99, 199, 298 and 398 mhz
Dec 29 10:48:23 <tobb> but nwm humorum , I'll survive with 400
Dec 29 11:03:40 <humorum> tobb: can you have the file  '/sys/.../cpufreq/cpuinfo_max_freq' ?
Dec 29 11:04:20 <humorum> or scaling_max_freq ?
Dec 29 11:06:32 <tobb> humorum: yea scaling_max_freq says 398131
Dec 29 11:07:46 <humorum> editing scaling_max_freq and you may change 471.
Dec 29 11:11:47 <tobb> humorum: nah, doesn't work, that freq must be in scaling_available_freq too
Dec 29 11:14:06 <humorum> to enable scaling_max_freq, file 'scaling_governor' must have userspace, a website says...
Dec 29 11:15:11 <humorum> easy way, 'cp -p scaling_governor scaling_governor.org'
Dec 29 11:15:23 <humorum> echo userspace > scaling_governor
Dec 29 11:15:41 <humorum> cp -p scaling_governor scaling_governor.org
Dec 29 11:16:10 <humorum> echo 471xxx > scaling_max_freq
Dec 29 11:18:10 <tobb> doesn't work, I think it needs to be in the scaling_available_frequencies before it would work
Dec 29 11:19:16 <pH5> tobb: you need a patched kernel that allows the higher frequencies
Dec 29 11:19:17 <humorum> so
Dec 29 11:21:25 <humorum> yeah
Dec 29 11:21:52 <humorum> I've found the following definition in the linux kernel:
Dec 29 11:22:02 <humorum> linux/arch/arm/mach-pxa/cpu-pxa25x.c:#define PXA25x_MAX_FREQ     398131
Dec 29 11:23:19 <pH5> http://comomo.shacknet.nu/files/pdaxrom/r121/patches/0302_pxa25x_clockup-r4.patch/view
Dec 29 11:23:22 <pH5> is what google tells me
Dec 29 11:24:46 <tobb> pH5: thanks, I'll try altering it to fit 2.6.23
Dec 29 12:31:30 <tobb> pH5: it worked
Dec 29 12:34:16 <tobb> nice, works like a charm, automatic speedstepping between 100 to 471
Dec 29 12:53:44 <mimeca1> hi
Dec 29 13:20:41 <TrueTykc> my congratulations with 2007.12 ! !!
Dec 29 13:20:54 <TrueTykc> hello all, btw
Dec 29 15:15:58 <mimecar> hi dcordes_
Dec 29 15:20:05 <dcordes_> hi mimecar 
Dec 29 15:20:35 <dcordes_> any news? How is angstrom going?
Dec 29 15:21:04 <mimecar> I don't know
Dec 29 15:21:15 <dcordes_> when did you last flash?
Dec 29 15:21:16 <mimecar> i couldn't play with my zaurus last days
Dec 29 15:21:22 <dcordes_> me n'either
Dec 29 17:34:27 <mmp> hello, is it just me or RC3 images (I tried h5000 one) dont have proper /etc/shadow?
Dec 29 17:34:48 <mimecar> no idea mmp
Dec 29 17:34:50 <mmp> I'm getting: h5000 login: root
Dec 29 17:34:50 <mmp> login: no valid shadow password
Dec 29 17:36:02 <mmp> ahh, it requires to set up root's password via gui:)
Dec 29 17:36:07 <mmp> sorry for bugging:)
Dec 29 17:37:00 <agittins> Just re-did my OE build environment using instructions from angstrom website, and aiming for collie. doing a "bitbake base-image" is failing while trying to build kernel-rp-2.6.20-r20 with "make: arm-angstrom-linux-gcc: Command not found"
Dec 29 17:38:13 <mimecar> have you update mtn database ?
Dec 29 17:38:26 <agittins> indeed, build/tmp/angstrom/staging/arm-angstrom-linux/bin/ is empty
Dec 29 17:39:32 <agittins> have done "mtn update" from within the org.openembedded.angstrom-2007.12-stable dir, is that correct?
Dec 29 17:39:51 <mimecar> mtn pull and mtn update
Dec 29 17:40:33 <agittins> yes, I had done mtn pull then mtn update
Dec 29 17:41:12 <agittins> but I am a complete mtn-noob, so don't properly understand how it works
Dec 29 17:41:20 <mimecar> if you've follow angstrom web doc, you must run it on /OE/org....
Dec 29 17:41:40 <mimecar> the folder where you uncompress database
Dec 29 17:41:44 <agittins> (for that matter, pretty much a bitbake noob too, but at least it says what it's doing most of the time)
Dec 29 17:41:54 <cyrilRomain> agittins: is tmp/cross/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/bin/ empty ?
Dec 29 17:42:04 <agittins> cyrilRomain: yes
Dec 29 17:42:16 <cyrilRomain> agittins: I mean in cross, not in staging ?
Dec 29 17:42:36 <agittins> instructions (iirc) say uncompress in /OE, then run mtn pull/update in /OE/org....
Dec 29 17:43:48 <agittins> cyrilRomain: there is no bin dir in build/tmp/angstrom/cross/arm-angstrom-linux, only inlude and lib
Dec 29 17:44:10 <cyrilRomain> agittins: hence the command not found
Dec 29 17:44:15 <agittins> yes.
Dec 29 17:44:46 <cyrilRomain> agittins: the question is why bitbake tried to built the kernel before the cross-toolchain
Dec 29 17:44:49 <agittins> i noticed that other dirs in cross linked to staging, hence why i followed back to there looking for bin
Dec 29 17:45:09 <cyrilRomain> or why the copy to the cross dir failed
Dec 29 17:45:26 <cyrilRomain> agittins: no other error before that error ?
Dec 29 17:45:42 <agittins> sounds like a good question. one thing I did change was in local conf i set bb_number_threads to 4, so possibly I confused it
Dec 29 17:46:11 <cyrilRomain> agittins: hmm give 'bitbake base-image' another try
Dec 29 17:46:15 <agittins> not sure if there were previous errors - the kernel job was the only one that reported as failed.
Dec 29 17:46:26 <agittins> have already run bitbake base-image twice
Dec 29 17:46:30 <cyrilRomain> :(
Dec 29 17:46:47 <agittins> is there a specific target i can give bb to tell it to build the cross toolkit?
Dec 29 17:47:48 <cyrilRomain> sure, but you have to find the right gcc-cross version
Dec 29 17:49:00 <cyrilRomain> agittins: can you look at tmp/work/armv*angstrom-linux-*/ ?
Dec 29 17:49:21 <cyrilRomain> there should be a gcc-cross directory
Dec 29 17:50:21 <agittins> yes, two in tmp/angstrom/work/arm-oabi-angstrom-linux named gcc-cross-4.1.2-r13 and gcc-cross-initial-4.1.2-r13
Dec 29 17:50:41 <cyrilRomain> agittins: ok, in gcc-cross-4.1.2-r13/temp/ directory
Dec 29 17:50:46 <cyrilRomain> you have the log files
Dec 29 17:52:35 <agittins> hmm no temp dir there, only gcc-4.1.2
Dec 29 17:52:49 <agittins> does that imply bb never tried to make it?
Dec 29 17:53:13 <cyrilRomain> agittins: I think bitbake enqueued the task but did not started it yet
Dec 29 17:53:31 <agittins> so then could be related to my "run 4 jobs at once" setting.
Dec 29 17:53:32 <cyrilRomain> so let's try 'bitbake gcc-cross'
Dec 29 17:53:42 <cyrilRomain> agittins: maybe
Dec 29 17:54:00 <agittins> trying that now, thanks.
Dec 29 17:54:02 * cyrilRomain never had such issue with bitbake, but never played with bb_number_threads either
Dec 29 17:55:05 <agittins> hehe... this is where I hope i don't say something that makes it all obvious - why does bb echo "Foo None" as it's first line of output?
Dec 29 17:56:13 <agittins> I did touch build/conf/sanity.conf, don't know if that might be related.
Dec 29 17:56:28 <cyrilRomain> "Foo None" ? :o)
Dec 29 17:56:49 <agittins> yes.
Dec 29 17:56:55 <cyrilRomain> agittins: yes
Dec 29 17:57:03 <cyrilRomain> build/conf/sanity.conf:49
Dec 29 17:58:22 <agittins> my build/conf/sanity.conf is empty.
Dec 29 17:58:33 <cyrilRomain> sorry
Dec 29 17:58:36 <agittins> ie, didn't exist, I touch'd it
Dec 29 17:58:46 <cyrilRomain> in package/conf/sanity.conf
Dec 29 17:58:57 <cyrilRomain> do you have a build/conf/sanity.conf empty file ?
Dec 29 17:59:07 <agittins> yes
Dec 29 17:59:08 <cyrilRomain> oh ok
Dec 29 17:59:14 <cyrilRomain> remove that empty file then :)
Dec 29 17:59:47 <agittins> i created it because it was complaining about me building as root.
Dec 29 17:59:48 <cyrilRomain> otherwise I'm pretty sure it will be taken into account instead of the package/conf/sanity.conf
Dec 29 18:00:05 <agittins> i am building as root because i had read that building as a user doesn't work properly
Dec 29 18:00:06 <cyrilRomain> agittins: ARRRGHH, don't build things as root, ever !
Dec 29 18:00:26 <cyrilRomain> crazy guy :o)
Dec 29 18:00:27 <agittins> yes, i certainly feel dirty
Dec 29 18:00:39 <agittins> :-)
Dec 29 18:01:17 <agittins> had definitely read that building as user didn't work properly, is that not the case?
Dec 29 18:01:38 <cyrilRomain> it is not the case
Dec 29 18:01:53 <agittins> excellent, will v gladly go back to building as user then
Dec 29 18:01:53 <cyrilRomain> building as root is dangerous
Dec 29 18:02:06 <agittins> yeah, well aware of that. as i said, I felt dirty :-)
Dec 29 18:02:08 <cyrilRomain> I think everybody here build as user :)
Dec 29 18:02:38 <agittins> hmm. if i see where I read that again I will notate it
Dec 29 18:02:39 <cyrilRomain> OE was among other things done to avoid crap build tool that need being root :)
Dec 29 18:03:28 <cyrilRomain> agittins: yes, probably the guy how wrote that didn't have all the tool required to build in its path
Dec 29 18:03:44 <cyrilRomain> agittins: so he given up building as root 
Dec 29 18:06:40 <agittins> big chown job finished now, removed empty sanity.conf, returned bb_number_threads to 2 and started new bb base-image. will see how we go this time.
Dec 29 18:06:48 <agittins> (as a user)
Dec 29 18:07:57 <agittins> ack.... 4am.... again.... going to be in trouble... again :-)
Dec 29 18:08:24 <agittins> thanks for your help, cyrilRomain, will see how this run pans out, hopefully will get me a bit closer :-D
Dec 29 18:09:31 <cyrilRomain> :)
Dec 30 00:01:12 <g4lv4tr0n> hi anyone know if dlink 660w cf wifi card is working on poodle ?
Dec 30 00:29:49 <g4lv4tr0n> hi i just flashed poodle to rc2.2 dlink wifi card now works as it obtains an ip on wlan0
Dec 30 00:30:05 <schme> mornin'
Dec 30 00:30:15 <g4lv4tr0n> but if i try to ping anything and try to update packages the wifi conncetion drops
Dec 30 00:30:27 <g4lv4tr0n> and light on wifi card turns off
Dec 30 00:30:39 <g4lv4tr0n> morning :)
Dec 30 00:31:15 <schme> g4lv4tr0n: Is there anything intersting in your dmesg related to this connection drop?
Dec 30 00:32:35 <g4lv4tr0n> ill have a look now
Dec 30 00:33:15 <g4lv4tr0n> im just going to reboot z quick
Dec 30 00:36:05 <g4lv4tr0n> do you have poodle ?
Dec 30 00:39:55 <g4lv4tr0n> hmm z just crashed that time after obtaining ip
Dec 30 00:40:09 <g4lv4tr0n> maybe ill have better luck with console image
Dec 30 00:43:49 <g4lv4tr0n> i get hostap_cs: first command failed - assuming card does not have primary firmware
Dec 30 00:44:02 <g4lv4tr0n> card init not completed
Dec 30 00:44:13 <g4lv4tr0n> readback test failed
Dec 30 00:44:59 <g4lv4tr0n> b4 that could not get info frame
Dec 30 00:45:07 <g4lv4tr0n> timeout
Dec 30 00:45:38 <g4lv4tr0n> something to do with setup bap
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