**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jan 15 02:59:57 2008 Jan 15 03:23:44 no one compiled rdesktop for 2007 release...that's weird Jan 15 03:25:25 compiles fine on my system guess no one had the time?...or maybe won't rung when i install it lol Jan 15 03:25:59 does rdesktop even run well on the Z? Jan 15 03:26:07 well in the beta releases Jan 15 03:26:11 when it was in /unstable Jan 15 03:26:15 i was running it fine Jan 15 03:26:26 don't remembre about pdaxii13 Jan 15 03:26:32 summatusmentis: what pda u using? Jan 15 03:26:58 3200 Jan 15 03:27:04 ah same as me Jan 15 03:27:14 popular little bugger heheh Jan 15 03:27:27 I like mine a lot, wish GPE were a bit more polished Jan 15 03:27:33 hehehe Jan 15 03:27:42 wonder if rox is available Jan 15 03:27:46 also, I need better wireless reception, but that's not the Zs fault Jan 15 03:28:03 lol Jan 15 03:28:25 compiling grdesktop see what that does Jan 15 03:28:42 grdesktop? is that a GUI interface for it? Jan 15 03:29:54 http://www.nongnu.org/grdesktop/shots.html Jan 15 03:29:56 yeah it is Jan 15 03:31:09 cool Jan 15 03:32:21 taking way more time to build Jan 15 03:32:28 i'll install my build version of rdesktop Jan 15 03:32:30 see how that goes Jan 15 03:33:09 trying to compile lirc for 3200 as well but has issues so far Jan 15 03:35:19 works Jan 15 03:35:23 needs scroll bars lol Jan 15 03:35:49 gonna add some options before loading it this time test it out hehe Jan 15 03:37:24 that's cool Jan 15 03:37:30 ahh Jan 15 03:37:36 rdesktop -f Jan 15 03:37:41 fullscreen mode resizes it Jan 15 03:37:42 nice Jan 15 03:38:34 oh segfaulted Jan 15 03:38:35 sweet Jan 15 03:39:11 well, even still, it's cool the Z can do that Jan 15 03:40:00 could be my hand Jan 15 03:40:02 ontop of the wifi Jan 15 03:40:05 blocking signal lol Jan 15 03:40:15 lol, that might do it Jan 15 03:40:27 trying again Jan 15 03:40:48 well not seg faulting Jan 15 03:42:54 hum been on for 5min now still no seg faults Jan 15 03:43:00 that was weird Jan 15 03:43:23 gotta love ctrl esc Jan 15 03:43:54 right on Jan 15 03:43:57 eek Jan 15 03:44:01 i just realised Jan 15 03:44:04 i didn't turn swapon Jan 15 03:44:10 maybe that's why it's seg faulting hahaha Jan 15 03:44:18 oh, that might do it :-) Jan 15 03:44:31 that can certanly do it lols Jan 15 03:44:45 hum never ran rdesktop -f before wonder what's the correct syntax to get out Jan 15 03:44:56 q maybe/ Jan 15 03:45:14 nah Jan 15 03:45:16 ctrl alt esc Jan 15 03:45:31 mk doesn't work Jan 15 03:46:12 ctrl alt enter Jan 15 03:46:13 nice Jan 15 03:46:25 well gotta love ctrl-esc for windows being the start button equiv Jan 15 03:47:12 oh yeah Jan 15 03:47:14 ram is gone Jan 15 03:47:15 hehehe Jan 15 03:48:17 so good chance me forgetting to turn on swap was causing my seg faults Jan 15 03:48:30 haha that's it putting swap partition in /etc/fstab Jan 15 03:50:27 it's doing what/ Jan 15 03:50:45 it's doing what? Jan 15 03:51:16 that's what I'm asking Jan 15 03:51:39 euh? Jan 15 03:51:43 you lost me there Jan 15 03:52:08 oh, I misread what you'd said about swap in /etc/fstab Jan 15 03:52:16 I thought it was swapping using /etc/fstab as swap Jan 15 03:52:21 ahh now i understand Jan 15 03:52:24 nah Jan 15 03:52:31 i was experimenting with swap files and others Jan 15 03:52:34 removed it from fstab Jan 15 03:53:27 got it Jan 15 03:56:20 you compiled rdesktop? Jan 15 03:56:30 you got a build env going right? (or is my memory failing me) Jan 15 03:56:47 no, I didn't Jan 15 03:56:58 I had a build env, but then my HD died Jan 15 03:57:02 ouch Jan 15 03:57:21 well if u want to try the rdesktop and you are runnign 2007.12 Jan 15 03:57:27 i can put it up for u Jan 15 03:57:42 no worries, I don't have system that can use it at this point anyway Jan 15 03:57:54 what happened to your Z Jan 15 03:58:11 no, sorry, I don't have a windows system that supports rdp Jan 15 03:58:31 ahh Jan 15 03:58:42 I <3 my macbook :-) Jan 15 03:59:29 gonna retry with swapon Jan 15 03:59:32 while grdesktop is compiling Jan 15 03:59:39 dunno why things take so long to compile on my laptop Jan 15 03:59:40 good luck Jan 15 03:59:48 how much ram do you have? Jan 15 03:59:53 2gig Jan 15 04:00:02 cpu? Jan 15 04:00:24 turion 64 x2 tl-58 Jan 15 04:00:51 not sure either... are you compiling w/ both cores? Jan 15 04:01:03 supposed to be Jan 15 04:01:22 do you have psycho-jit installed? Jan 15 04:01:24 in /OE/org.angstrombuildblablabla/conf/local.conf Jan 15 04:01:34 i have parallel make -j4 Jan 15 04:01:40 and number of threads 2 Jan 15 04:01:45 yes psycho-jit is installed Jan 15 04:04:01 should be fine... Jan 15 04:05:02 dunno some things seem long to compile Jan 15 04:05:04 others don't Jan 15 04:05:08 rdesktop went like a falsh Jan 15 04:05:14 i mean i don't have all dependencies compiled Jan 15 04:05:17 i didn't do make world Jan 15 04:05:20 that would be nuts Jan 15 04:06:02 yeah, that'd take forever Jan 15 04:06:06 yeah Jan 15 04:06:07 indeed Jan 15 04:06:15 i'm thinking i should build a box just for this Jan 15 04:06:26 i only allocated 20gigs of hdd for my slackware on this box Jan 15 04:06:37 9gigs left Jan 15 04:06:39 lol Jan 15 05:44:14 hum Jan 15 05:44:23 when i check my /cpu/cpuinfo in the 2007.12 Jan 15 05:44:30 my system is borzoi ? Jan 15 05:44:53 but it should be terrier Jan 15 05:50:12 hum after reading the zaurus mach-config there doesn't seem to be a terrier option so i'm guessing since it's only a 2g addon on hard drive space it's considered borzoi? Jan 15 05:50:40 wait... what's borzoi? Jan 15 05:52:42 3100 Jan 15 05:52:46 terrier is 3200 Jan 15 05:53:05 oh... no, afaik, terrier and borzoi should both be under the spitz mach-config Jan 15 05:53:34 unno Jan 15 05:53:41 but my /proc/cpuinfo says borzoi Jan 15 05:53:52 my olg qtopia that came with zaurus said terrier Jan 15 05:54:01 and i know borzoi is 3100 and terrier is 3200 lol Jan 15 05:54:19 no idea Jan 15 05:56:21 bah not like it's a big deal Jan 15 05:56:49 wow Jan 15 05:56:56 i'm impressed by the lack of 2007.12 packages Jan 15 05:58:41 impressed? Jan 15 05:58:47 yes Jan 15 05:58:57 before everytime there was something up quickly Jan 15 05:59:26 it's possible they removed non-working ones Jan 15 05:59:31 hum Jan 15 05:59:34 how could they be non workign Jan 15 05:59:38 when i compile them straight up Jan 15 05:59:43 without modifying anything Jan 15 05:59:53 rdesktop is still unstable version and not 2007 Jan 15 06:00:12 yet works for me (after turned swap back on no more seg faults lol) Jan 15 06:00:19 same for grdesktop Jan 15 06:00:38 I don't know, ask koen Jan 15 06:01:53 whos koen Jan 15 06:03:02 the project leader of the 2007 release Jan 15 06:05:16 lol Jan 15 06:05:17 gpe-irc Jan 15 06:05:19 31337 IRC client. Jan 15 06:05:21 pouhahaha Jan 15 06:05:31 summatusmentis: does he come on the channel sometimes? Jan 15 06:05:42 he does Jan 15 06:06:56 what's his nick koen? Jan 15 06:07:10 yep Jan 15 09:03:11 One question.... Jan 15 09:03:59 How can "Angstrom-boot.exe" can be generated from OE? Jan 15 09:04:08 and the same for liveramdisk Jan 15 09:04:18 maybe is a stupid question Jan 15 09:04:29 but when Jan 15 09:04:42 I bitbake liveramdisk-image, I don't get any exe Jan 15 10:28:02 hmm how I select option 1 in Angstrom-boot? with ipaq h3900? Jan 15 10:59:24 hi! Jan 15 11:08:47 I'll ask again, maybe I'm lucky this time: How can a liveramdisk exe be generated? Jan 15 11:09:15 I just get a .cpio file and don't know what to do with it Jan 15 11:11:02 yo lumag Jan 15 11:13:06 * XorA doesnt have an ipaq and knows nothing of liveramdisks Jan 15 11:13:21 Thaks anyway XorA Jan 15 11:13:39 psvolsky or however you spell it is the guy to ask I think Jan 15 11:13:51 LOL Jan 15 11:14:09 which nickname does he use? Jan 15 11:16:12 that nickname spelled right Jan 15 11:18:22 ok Jan 15 11:55:04 me happen to boot h3900 angstrom :) Jan 15 12:10:41 does anyone know how can img files be created? I mean the ones that can be launched with the boot exe Jan 15 12:17:11 That is loopback image, isn't it? Jan 15 12:37:27 I like time zone selection in GPE.. London, Paris, Moscow and that's it Jan 15 12:37:33 for europe Jan 15 12:46:26 gints: move house then :-D Jan 15 13:27:37 XorA: ok seems like have to :) Jan 15 13:28:07 someone has flat to rent in Paris? Jan 15 13:49:38 bye, all! Jan 15 15:52:22 yay - feeds are back Jan 15 16:47:18 I'm running Angstrom from a bootloader and rootfs is installed in a SD card Jan 15 16:47:41 but root (/) is only 64 MB Jan 15 16:48:08 can it be increased any way? Jan 15 16:50:06 or use a different mounting point for /usr Jan 15 18:11:17 Hi all. I saw OPIE-images for akita are now available. In earlier times, many applications could not run in OPIE, as they needed X11. Is this still so, or did it change ? Jan 15 18:12:13 there are plenty of x11 apps that need X, yes Jan 15 18:12:53 JoshMalone: Yes, I know. They are incompatible to QT3 (or 4). Jan 15 18:13:34 I just want to know, if it is now possible to get both running: Opie and X11-apps. Jan 15 18:13:52 I have both running on my c3100 right now Jan 15 18:14:20 it's hairy cuz both environments want to do things like dim the screen when inactive, etc. Jan 15 18:14:40 In earlier times, I got OPIE on flash and X11 on the sd-card, until the kernel was incompatible to one system. Jan 15 18:14:47 might be better to just drop to terminal and turn 1 off and the other on when I want to switch Jan 15 18:15:27 So, both "systems" are now running with the same kernel ? Jan 15 18:15:58 yep - can run opie and gpe at the same time (with some stepping on each others toes, though) Jan 15 18:16:13 I can on my c3100 - both running from hard disk, though Jan 15 18:17:04 Cool ! So I can use my old strategies: Running opie from flash, and starting GPE from sd-card. Jan 15 18:17:13 should be able to, yeah Jan 15 18:17:31 I only have an SL-C1000, so there is no HD. Jan 15 18:17:48 Cool ! I really miss wellenreiter. Jan 15 18:18:08 wussat? Jan 15 18:18:40 A wlan-sniffer similar to kismet. But more graphically. Jan 15 18:19:01 nice - I need one of those Jan 15 18:19:47 kismet has got more features, but I like it, to see all the bars of the channels in one screen. Jan 15 18:20:18 do you build it from source? Jan 15 18:20:30 Oh no, I installed an ipk. Jan 15 18:20:50 I need to find more feeds for my pda Jan 15 18:21:00 It is developed by famous Dr. Mickeyl Jan 15 18:21:08 I'm new to Zaurus - had my 3100 for < 1 week Jan 15 18:21:35 I made a profile for myself, aiming to Office + network analysis Jan 15 18:22:07 If you are interested, I could send you my installer script. Jan 15 18:22:16 sure Jan 15 18:22:30 It contents all packages I found worth to install. Jan 15 18:22:46 I need to catch up on Z stuff - I used to do debian-arm work but that was 2+ years ago Jan 15 18:22:51 The script is selfexplaining. Jan 15 18:23:22 If you like to give me your mail adress I can send it to you. Or just via DCC. Jan 15 18:24:27 You can easily change it to your personal needs. Jan 15 18:25:03 josh.malone@gmail.com :) Jan 15 18:25:12 thanks Jan 15 18:25:36 gotta eat lunch now - bbl8r Jan 15 18:35:58 JoshMalone: Sent them to you. Have fun ! Jan 15 18:36:04 tnx man Jan 15 18:36:58 They are really not special, when you look at them, you see, you can very simple change them. It is just my package collection. Jan 15 18:37:13 I am no coder. :)# Jan 15 19:09:17 hey everybody Jan 15 19:09:54 does anyone know what happened to http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/feed/armv5te/base/ ?? Jan 15 19:10:12 all the links in the feeds to files in that area no longer work :( Jan 15 19:22:33 who has tested the h5000 images for the 2007.12 release? I cannot get any to work *at all*. An attempted root login says "no valid shadow password", and no X configuration stuff starts ... :( Jan 15 20:15:23 holy shite! the garnet-vm from maemo work on ANgstrom Jan 15 20:22:25 hi all! Jan 15 20:22:28 hey Jan 15 20:29:52 hmm... the launcher needs the hildon widgets lib which looks like it's in unstable but the unstable feed is... well, unstable Jan 15 20:30:00 (i.e., pkg not found) Jan 15 20:34:02 ssPr4se Jan 15 23:54:12 anybdy know if the 2007.12 hostap modules compiled with packet injection Jan 16 01:21:31 hi all Jan 16 01:22:00 anyone know why when programs are fullscreened, if you tap near the edges of the screen, it screws up the calibration? Jan 16 01:22:03 it's really bizarre Jan 16 01:23:19 DaedalusX: haven't seen that Jan 16 01:23:25 what program what platform? Jan 16 01:26:31 all full screen programs that use the mouse, on akita Jan 16 01:26:52 and by full screen I mean full screen Jan 16 01:26:56 not just maximized Jan 16 01:27:04 they work fine when maximized Jan 16 01:27:08 only app i used fs on sl-c3200 is rdesktop Jan 16 01:27:14 seems to work fine Jan 16 01:52:06 pixelized, ah, I found a solution! Jan 16 01:52:30 apparently SDL gets kinda weirded out by tslib or something in the kdrive mouse handler, I'm not sure which Jan 16 01:52:38 but if you export SDL_MOUSE_RELATIVE=0 Jan 16 01:52:42 then it works perfectly Jan 16 01:53:31 nice Jan 16 01:54:09 sorry working on compiling aircrack hehehe Jan 16 01:57:48 pixelized: Have you had the same issues with injection not working that I have? Jan 16 01:58:00 Capn_Fish: did u get aircrack to compile? Jan 16 01:58:04 No Jan 16 01:58:10 I used the prebuilt one Jan 16 01:58:16 Have you tried it yet? Jan 16 01:58:28 no i'm almost done removing the issues of compiling it myself Jan 16 01:58:36 some double inclusions in there Jan 16 01:58:39 Let me know if you get it to work Jan 16 01:58:49 well i'm wondering if hostap was compiled with injection support Jan 16 01:58:50 I'd like to know why my injection is failing Jan 16 01:58:58 I patched it manually Jan 16 01:59:16 There's also the injection patch in the patches dir for the kernel, so I assume it is. Jan 16 02:00:37 what aircrack version u running? Jan 16 02:00:47 0.9.1 Jan 16 02:01:41 oh aircrack-ng Jan 16 02:01:44 Ya Jan 16 02:01:55 Why wouldn't you use aircrack-ng? Jan 16 02:03:10 i want aircrack ptw Jan 16 02:03:23 Aircrack-ng has PTW built-in Jan 16 02:03:39 true Jan 16 02:03:55 So why not use it? Jan 16 02:04:14 dunno it just failed on compile and seemed fun to try and fix it Jan 16 02:04:53 Could you try the verison in the feeds to see if I'm the only person having issues with injection? Jan 16 02:05:12 sure just gotta fix my linux receiver first gimme a sec Jan 16 02:05:52 k Jan 16 02:05:53 Thanks Jan 16 02:09:41 well guess tv is gonna wait Jan 16 02:10:43 ??? Jan 16 02:11:53 long storie Jan 16 02:11:57 i use a linux box for tv Jan 16 02:12:30 Gotcha Jan 16 02:12:37 MythTV? Jan 16 02:12:47 nah Jan 16 02:13:35 Got Aircrack testing yet? Jan 16 02:13:49 just downloaded the package Jan 16 02:13:52 k Jan 16 02:13:54 mind u i have no wep to crack Jan 16 02:13:56 hehehe\ Jan 16 02:22:24 Not a problem Jan 16 02:22:32 I would just like to know if injection works Jan 16 02:25:04 You can make custom bootsplash images easily, FWIW Jan 16 02:25:20 I didn't like the default Angstrom bootsplash :) Jan 16 02:27:55 Capn_Fish: hehe Jan 16 02:28:00 Capn_Fish: didn't check that out yet Jan 16 02:28:06 hum what errors u get for injection capn? Jan 16 02:28:09 None Jan 16 02:28:13 It just doesn't work Jan 16 02:28:24 well i don't have wep so not 2 sure --test? Jan 16 02:28:32 or -9 Jan 16 02:28:50 areplay -9 -e SSID -a BSSID interface Jan 16 02:28:56 *aireplay-ng Jan 16 02:29:27 It might only work with WEP-using routers (I have one laying around for that purpose :)) Jan 16 02:29:51 so far Jan 16 02:29:56 everytime i've put my linksys in wep mode Jan 16 02:29:59 nothing connects to it Jan 16 02:30:04 xbox 360 laptops zaurus all fail Jan 16 02:30:10 Weird. Jan 16 02:30:22 Can you put it in such a mode just to test? Jan 16 02:31:02 does anyone have a suggestion for a wifi usb dongle? Jan 16 02:31:29 summatusmentis: They all draw too much for the Zaurus's USB port Jan 16 02:31:49 Close to anything should work with a powered hub, though. Jan 16 02:32:09 mer Jan 16 02:32:12 says it's injecting Jan 16 02:32:18 stoped out of the blue Jan 16 02:32:33 at 30 Jan 16 02:32:35 What card/chipset/driver? Jan 16 02:32:40 It does stop at 30 Jan 16 02:32:50 Mine just always was "0/30" Jan 16 02:32:55 same here Jan 16 02:32:57 with 0% Jan 16 02:33:00 Hmm. Jan 16 02:33:02 mind u no wep router Jan 16 02:33:09 Can you fakeauth? Jan 16 02:33:20 Mine won't seem to do that either. Jan 16 02:33:38 This isn't human error, BTW. It works fine under pdaXrom r198 Jan 16 02:34:16 Capn_Fish: I can power a usb stick just fine w/ the Zaurus' USB port Jan 16 02:34:26 and it needs a native linux driver, which is what I was loking for Jan 16 02:34:39 But usb Wi-Fi takes MUCH more power Jan 16 02:34:44 than a normal USB drive Jan 16 02:34:55 but I don't want a wifi card sticking out into the palm of my hand! Jan 16 02:35:13 So you'd rather be tethered to an outlet? Jan 16 02:35:28 no, I want a low power USB wifi stick Jan 16 02:35:28 It's not an ideal situation, I agree :) Jan 16 02:35:39 summatusmentis: forget it lol Jan 16 02:35:50 I don't think any exist. That's what we all want. Jan 16 02:36:32 :-/ Jan 16 02:40:24 Capn_Fish: well i'd have to put my router in wep mode i guess to test Jan 16 02:41:03 Don't do stuff you don't want to. Jan 16 02:41:19 brb gotta do something Jan 16 02:41:26 No sense compromising security to test for an unknown person in an IRC channel :) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Jan 16 02:59:57 2008