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Feb 26 16:15:45 <lianergoist> hi
Feb 26 16:16:59 <lianergoist> I'm trying to build base-image, but a file is missing. 
Feb 26 16:18:15 <summatusmentis> hrw: you still around?
Feb 26 16:18:37 <lianergoist> hmmm.... I better send an email and explain...
Feb 26 16:23:04 <hrw> yes
Feb 26 16:26:15 <summatusmentis> hrw: I was directed to speak to either you or mickey|shopping about GSoC. I've been discussing some of it on the oe-devel list, and the general consesus seems to be "OE could do something(but maybe it should be the distros), but I don't want to mentor"
Feb 26 16:27:51 <hrw> I do not plan to be a mentor too
Feb 26 16:28:21 <summatusmentis> do you know if anyone does? if anything may be happening regarding GSoC?
Feb 26 16:28:51 <summatusmentis> potentially anyone in angstrom?
Feb 26 16:29:07 <hrw> no idea 
Feb 26 16:29:34 <summatusmentis> alright, any idea as to who i should talk to?
Feb 26 16:30:01 <hrw> I would go to application organizations rather
Feb 26 16:31:54 <summatusmentis> hrw: so Angstrom/Openmoko vs. OE ? I know Openmoko participated last year.
Feb 26 16:32:06 <summatusmentis> unless you don't think anything OE based is going to participate
Feb 26 16:33:19 <Crofton> The problem is we need to identify coding related tasks. 
Feb 26 16:33:35 <Crofton> I'm going to look over the rules and see if we can identify some eligible tasks
Feb 26 16:34:21 <summatusmentis> Crofton: oh, ok. Sorry if I'm being pushy, this is just the first year I can be eligible, and I feel like I've got decent requisite knowledge :-)
Feb 26 16:34:30 <Crofton> sadly, I don't think spedning the summer trying to push patches upstream would work
Feb 26 16:34:39 <Crofton> no it is good you are reminding us
Feb 26 16:35:05 <Crofton> it is a good way to get young people involved in the project and open source work
Feb 26 16:35:15 <Crofton> but we are not a traditional SW project
Feb 26 16:35:28 <summatusmentis> I guess that's fair
Feb 26 16:35:54 <Crofton> lunchtime for me
Feb 26 16:35:58 <XorA> normal would be pick a feature that Angstrom lacks that you can reasonably build in 3 months
Feb 26 16:36:24 <XorA> GUI Installer, Graphical Package Manager etc etc
Feb 26 16:37:06 <Crofton> graphical installer based on opkg?
Feb 26 16:37:27 <XorA> Crofton: that sort of thing
Feb 26 16:37:54 <Crofton> good
Feb 26 16:38:08 <Crofton> Let me look over the stuff and work on getting the application together
Feb 26 16:38:21 <XorA> we need the tasks to not be "randomly hack bitbake" as 3 months later the student might have managed to read the source, but little else
Feb 26 16:40:19 <XorA> "Angstrom unionfs for machines with limited flash"
Feb 26 16:40:33 <XorA> pretty unlikely anyone would pick that up, but worth a go :-)
Feb 26 16:41:39 <Crofton> port Android to Angstrom ....
Feb 26 16:41:45 <Crofton> anyway bbal
Feb 26 16:42:06 * XorA shudders
Feb 26 16:43:05 <Sketch> is android based on OE?
Feb 26 16:43:15 <hrw> no
Feb 26 16:52:57 <summatusmentis> GUI installer for Angstrom? Or for OE?
Feb 26 16:55:11 <summatusmentis> why is Xchat not in the feeds?
Feb 26 17:01:58 <Sketch> is there a way to build ipk's from the tree with bitbake?
Feb 26 17:03:09 <XorA> summatusmentis: Id prefer that the OE imports the OpenHand SDK work, that rules
Feb 26 21:05:39 <mr_nice> hi all, does any one knows about deadlines for the image release update? 
Feb 26 21:06:11 <summatusmentis> Crofton: what'd you come up w/ for GSoC?
Feb 26 21:06:33 <Crofton> nothing yet, give me a few days :)
Feb 26 21:06:33 <summatusmentis> or did you come up w/ anything?
Feb 26 21:06:49 <summatusmentis> ok, I was just curious. It sounded like you were gonna do it today, my bad :-)
Feb 26 21:07:39 <Crofton> March 3 is when we can apply as a project
Feb 26 21:07:55 <Crofton> in the meantime, can you come up with some possible projects
Feb 26 21:09:15 <summatusmentis> the one idea I came up w/ yesterday was some sort of video player frontend that incorporates the accelerated video capabilities, and plays full screen in landscape mode, regardless or what position the device was in(thinking about clamshell zaurii)
Feb 26 21:09:54 <Crofton> try and come up with several ideas 
Feb 26 21:10:01 <Crofton> and what project they would apply to
Feb 26 21:10:21 <Crofton> I think you understand that OE is a build system and angstrom is a distribution built with OE
Feb 26 21:10:32 <summatusmentis> yes
Feb 26 21:10:43 <summatusmentis> I feel like there's a lot of overlap between OE and angstrom/openmoko though
Feb 26 21:10:45 <Crofton> so it is a little hard for coding projects that are directly applicable to us
Feb 26 21:10:51 <Crofton> of course
Feb 26 21:10:59 <summatusmentis> 'us' being angstrom
Feb 26 21:11:00 <Crofton> we each build on each others work
Feb 26 21:17:28 <summatusmentis> Crofton: I'll try to come up w/ some possible projects within the next couple days
Feb 26 21:17:54 <summatusmentis> we'd need someone to mentor too
Feb 26 21:21:20 <Crofton> we can work on that for the application
Feb 26 21:21:53 <Crofton> check if mickey|shopping plans to submit openmoko also
Feb 26 21:22:18 <summatusmentis> will do
Feb 26 21:23:55 * XorA|gone guesses he can mentor for either Angstrom or OpenMoko depending on the project
Feb 27 02:17:03 * AcTiVaTe is trying to install angstrom on his collie...
Feb 27 02:18:15 <johnx> I should try as well, I didn't realize there was a new build
Feb 27 02:19:33 <gelisp> anyone uses ipaq h5550?
Feb 27 02:20:09 <johnx> sorry, no ipaqs here :(
Feb 27 02:20:22 <johnx> what problem are you running into?
Feb 27 02:22:50 <gelisp> i use haret to load the kernel image, when booting the screen is black, but the com1 is ok
Feb 27 02:49:27 <AcTiVaTe> well, atm I'm doing my best to get it to load something and also have a working touchscreen
Feb 27 02:50:01 <johnx> does the latest one boot?
Feb 27 02:50:08 <johnx> I haven't tried it yet...
Feb 27 02:50:28 <AcTiVaTe> 2.6.20.6 works here
Feb 27 02:50:38 <johnx> nice
Feb 27 02:50:42 <AcTiVaTe> Using the altboot-console image atm
Feb 27 02:50:55 <johnx> does it actually get to a login prompt and/or opie?
Feb 27 02:51:02 <AcTiVaTe> Not yet
Feb 27 02:51:06 <AcTiVaTe> Busy with it ;)
Feb 27 02:51:29 <AcTiVaTe> well, it gets to a login but not graphical yet
Feb 27 02:51:54 <AcTiVaTe> And when I managed to get something graphical I had apparently not yet enabled the touchscreen ;)
Feb 27 02:52:44 <johnx> I'll try it in a couple minutes
Feb 27 02:54:16 <AcTiVaTe> been ages since I did this so I guess I'm not doing something right
Feb 27 04:55:00 * AcTiVaTe is not getting anywhere with his collie
Feb 27 04:55:41 <johnx> it won't boot?
Feb 27 04:55:47 <johnx> can you use altboot to get a shell?
Feb 27 04:55:55 <johnx> from that shell test ipkg and see if it's broken
Feb 27 04:56:04 <johnx> that was the problem I had last time
Feb 27 04:58:32 <AcTiVaTe> ipkg runs
Feb 27 04:58:43 <johnx> can it install things?
Feb 27 04:58:48 <AcTiVaTe> but no modules are loaded at bootup
Feb 27 04:58:55 * johnx tries to remember the command that was failing
Feb 27 04:59:01 <johnx> something like ipkg-cl configure
Feb 27 04:59:29 <AcTiVaTe> seg fault on that one :S
Feb 27 05:00:15 <AcTiVaTe> then again, I'm not 100% sure I downloaded all the right files
Feb 27 05:01:03 <johnx> that sounds like exactly my experience
Feb 27 05:01:06 <AcTiVaTe> I have to modprobe locomo_spi and mmc_block and mmc_spi to access the SD card
Feb 27 05:01:22 <johnx> me too (on an older release)
Feb 27 05:01:28 <johnx> I should try and build an older ipkg and see if it's broken as well
Feb 27 05:01:37 <AcTiVaTe> And even after doing modprobe ucb1x00-ts and starting gpe-dm the touchscreen does not react
Feb 27 05:02:05 <johnx> unfortunate
Feb 27 05:02:14 <johnx> I didn't realize touchscreen was one of the missing features
Feb 27 05:02:18 <AcTiVaTe> also been unable to get my wifi card with hostap working
Feb 27 05:02:42 <AcTiVaTe> Well, as I said I'm not really sure I did all this correct
Feb 27 05:02:47 <AcTiVaTe> Been ages since I messed with it
Feb 27 05:03:06 <AcTiVaTe> Was actually looking into installing something *nix like on my WM6 phone if possible
Feb 27 05:03:19 <johnx> what phone?
Feb 27 05:04:32 <AcTiVaTe> E-TEN M700
Feb 27 05:04:39 <AcTiVaTe> Samsung chip iirc
Feb 27 05:09:21 <AcTiVaTe> I need some sleep :S
Feb 27 05:09:34 <AcTiVaTe> I'll try some more tomorrow
Feb 27 05:09:38 <johnx> 'night then, I'll post here if I have any luck later
Feb 27 05:10:00 <AcTiVaTe> Okies, thx ;)
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