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Apr 03 11:51:53 <HRH_H_Crab> rwhitby: about?
Apr 03 11:52:19 <rwhitby> HRH_H_Crab: yes
Apr 03 11:52:31 <HRH_H_Crab> ive finally got apex-env installed
Apr 03 11:52:47 <HRH_H_Crab> printenv doesnt show any cmdline-alt key,
Apr 03 11:52:56 <HRH_H_Crab> and i can't figure out how to set one.
Apr 03 11:53:04 <rwhitby> what version of apex is running?
Apr 03 11:53:20 <HRH_H_Crab> root@ixp4xxbe:~$ apex-env release
Apr 03 11:53:20 <HRH_H_Crab> 1.5.8
Apr 03 11:54:06 <HRH_H_Crab> if i just try and change the value of cmdline, and something strange happens later on, can i just put the slug back into upgrade mode and reflash?
Apr 03 11:54:13 <HRH_H_Crab> im not sure how all this stuff hangs together.
Apr 03 11:54:15 <rwhitby> yep
Apr 03 11:54:21 <HRH_H_Crab> cool
Apr 03 11:54:23 <rwhitby> 1.5.8 doesn't have alternatives support
Apr 03 11:54:28 <HRH_H_Crab> in that case i will forge ahead!
Apr 03 11:54:39 <rwhitby> and the 1.5.13 in OE doesn't have the patch to turn on alternatives support.
Apr 03 11:54:45 <HRH_H_Crab> so just to be clear, i edit the cmdline to point to sda1 for example,
Apr 03 11:54:59 <rwhitby> You can get a version with alternatives at http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/kernel/
Apr 03 11:55:06 <HRH_H_Crab> and if my memory stick dies and the slug can't find a boot device, just reflash?
Apr 03 11:55:13 <rwhitby> (choose the slugos version for angstrom)
Apr 03 11:55:14 <HRH_H_Crab> s/boot/root
Apr 03 11:55:27 <rwhitby> that's all correct
Apr 03 11:55:53 <HRH_H_Crab> thanks and sorry for constantly hassling you! ;)
Apr 03 11:56:01 <rwhitby> with alternatives support, you can make the alternative boot from internal flash, and then just create a new rootfs on a new flash stick
Apr 03 11:56:21 <rwhitby> HRH_H_Crab: it's only a hassle if you're *not* writing this on a wiki page for others.
Apr 03 11:56:36 <HRH_H_Crab> heh
Apr 03 11:56:49 * rwhitby wonders where the wiki page is ....
Apr 03 11:56:53 <HRH_H_Crab> i will endeavour to try and update some stuff on the angstrom wiki this weekend.
Apr 03 11:57:03 <HRH_H_Crab> or at least write some notes so someone with access can post them.
Apr 03 11:59:23 <rwhitby> HRH_H_Crab: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Angstrom/HomePage
Apr 03 12:01:01 <rwhitby> If you write a good page there, I might be inspired to add alternatives support to the apex built in OE ...
Apr 03 12:04:09 <HRH_H_Crab> heehee
Apr 03 12:04:16 <HRH_H_Crab> i better get some coffee in ;)
Apr 03 12:05:31 <HRH_H_Crab> Filesystem                Size      Used Available Use% Mounted on
Apr 03 12:05:31 <HRH_H_Crab> /dev/sda1                60.4M      8.5M     48.7M  15% /
Apr 03 12:05:34 <HRH_H_Crab> get in there!
Apr 03 12:05:41 <HRH_H_Crab> that means it worked didnt it?!
Apr 03 12:06:53 <HRH_H_Crab> im a bit confused that it also seems to be mounted under /media/sda1 but i think i can disable that by futzing with udev scripts.
Apr 03 12:08:07 <rwhitby> yeah, just blacklist it
Apr 03 12:10:41 <HRH_H_Crab> awesome
Apr 03 12:10:44 <HRH_H_Crab> this is so cool!
Apr 03 12:10:50 <HRH_H_Crab> thanks for all your work, and help.
Apr 03 12:11:41 <lumag> hi!
Apr 03 12:12:48 <rwhitby> HRH_H_Crab: the wiki page will be thanks enough.  have fun.
Apr 03 14:47:29 <Pythag> !logs
Apr 03 14:47:29 <cdbot2> Channel logs for #angstrom are archived at:
Apr 03 14:47:30 <cdbot2> http://hentges.net/tmp/logs/irc/%23angstrom
Apr 03 14:47:31 <cdbot2> Live-logs are available at
Apr 03 14:47:32 <Pythag> ooops, sorry
Apr 03 14:47:34 <cdbot2> http://hentges.net/tmp/logs/irc/livelogs/%23angstrom.livelog
Apr 03 14:47:36 <cdbot2> See ?? help-logs for usage instructions
Apr 03 14:51:20 <Pythag> I'm having problems checking out the branch org.openembedded.angstrom-2007.12-stable. It says the branch is empty... Have a missed something, or is there a problem?
Apr 03 16:12:45 <HRH_H_Crab> Pythag: i think they have changed things slightly and you now just use org.openembedded.stable 
Apr 03 16:12:58 <HRH_H_Crab> the fact that its angstrom, and the version are specified in local.conf.
Apr 03 16:13:12 <HRH_H_Crab> having said that, i am a total noob and have limited idea of what im talking about!
Apr 03 16:13:21 <Pythag> okay... I have managed to check that branch out, was just diffing to an old org.openembedded.stable-2007.12 branch
Apr 03 16:13:52 <Pythag> cheers :-)
Apr 03 16:14:19 <mimecar> can libpng be builded ?
Apr 03 16:14:22 <mimecar> i get some errors
Apr 03 17:25:48 <HRH_H_Crab> rwhitby: ive added a few notes to that wiki. my tone is a bit informal so feel free to clean it up as you feel appropriate, but it contains the main bits and pieces which got me through the process safely, so may well be useful to someone.
Apr 03 18:36:29 <mimecar> re
Apr 03 18:36:36 <HRH_H_Crab> wb
Apr 03 18:55:13 <Hal9000> hello
Apr 03 18:55:37 <Hal9000> umm, anybody ever try and build pyqt?
Apr 03 18:55:44 <mimecar> I don't
Apr 03 18:55:52 <mimecar> what's the problem you have?
Apr 03 18:56:22 <Hal9000> well, probobly that im a board designer trying to write software :)
Apr 03 18:56:35 <Hal9000> ok, i would like to use pyqt on a gumstix to write qtopia apps
Apr 03 18:56:53 <mimecar> is the package on angstrom feed?
Apr 03 18:57:08 <Hal9000> i have qtopia working, but the pyqt packages seem have a problem fiding the qt libraries
Apr 03 18:57:10 <Hal9000> yep, it is
Apr 03 18:57:11 <mimecar> opie is not supported oficially on angstrom
Apr 03 18:57:18 <Hal9000> oooo
Apr 03 18:57:21 <Hal9000> intesrting
Apr 03 18:57:36 <mimecar> there're some image for opie.
Apr 03 18:58:10 <Hal9000> ya, gor the gumstix OE tree there is an image for it, but actuayl i build mine outside of it, but i belive the one in the tree works also
Apr 03 18:58:37 <mimecar> it will be the same image or very similar
Apr 03 18:59:02 <Hal9000> humm, um, thanks ?
Apr 03 18:59:21 <mimecar> you can run gpe or opie on angstrom
Apr 03 18:59:26 <Hal9000> hehe, soory, im kinda new to the OE stuff
Apr 03 18:59:30 <mimecar> check opie images on angstrom wesite
Apr 03 18:59:31 <mimecar> :)
Apr 03 18:59:53 <Hal9000> ok, um, whats opie and gpe?
Apr 03 19:00:09 <mimecar> opie is a """kde version"" for handhelds
Apr 03 19:00:13 <mimecar> and gpe for gnome
Apr 03 19:00:15 <Hal9000> whooo angstrom has a website, thats new to me
Apr 03 19:00:24 <mimecar> opie use the same libraries as qtopia
Apr 03 19:00:25 <Hal9000> cool, thanks
Apr 03 19:01:30 <Hal9000> humm, i will do siome reserch on that, and try to figure out how that would apply to a gumsitx, thanks for the time
Apr 03 19:01:46 <mimecar> ok
Apr 03 22:34:25 <rwhitby> HRH_H_Crab: thx
Apr 03 22:34:41 <HRH_H_Crab> np
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