**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Apr 16 02:59:56 2008
Apr 16 18:42:12 <DaSourcerer> Hello. i am running Angstrom 2007.12 on a Sharp Zaurus C1000 "Akita". I ran an update today and rebooted for the first time in a while. Now I've seem to lost all networking abilities on my Zaurus, which is a serious problem for me.
Apr 16 18:42:27 <DaSourcerer> on top of that, I seem to be able to load *any* modules using modprobe
Apr 16 18:42:56 <summatusmentis> you probably upgraded your kernel during the update
Apr 16 18:43:11 <summatusmentis> download the latest zImage, and then just reflash the kernel
Apr 16 18:43:41 <DaSourcerer> Hm, m'kay... I'm afraid that's also a problem
Apr 16 18:44:04 <summatusmentis> no sd/cf card?
Apr 16 18:44:08 <DaSourcerer> That's however not linked to angstrom
Apr 16 18:44:12 <DaSourcerer> Oh, I do.
Apr 16 18:44:20 <DaSourcerer> But my card reader/writer is in my opther flat
Apr 16 18:44:24 <DaSourcerer> *other
Apr 16 18:44:31 <summatusmentis> I see. Do you have a camera or something?
Apr 16 18:45:00 <DaSourcerer> I do. But that won't help, as this camera only displays files from a certain directory
Apr 16 18:45:05 * summatusmentis uses his printer as a card writer
Apr 16 18:45:11 <DaSourcerer> A rather stupid limitation. Dunno why they did this
Apr 16 18:45:22 <summatusmentis> yeah, that sounds annoying
Apr 16 18:45:41 <DaSourcerer> Now that's neat. Theres a modules dir for 2.6.23 and 2.6.24
Apr 16 18:45:59 <DaSourcerer> 2.6.23 is 141k in size while 2.6.24 is about 3m
Apr 16 18:46:10 <summatusmentis> yeah, it installed all the 2.6.24 stuff, but the kernel it's booting from is .23, because that's what's flashed
Apr 16 18:46:17 <DaSourcerer> According to uname, 2.6.23 is running
Apr 16 18:46:24 <summatusmentis> yep
Apr 16 18:46:26 <DaSourcerer> gah
Apr 16 18:46:41 <DaSourcerer> That's... gah. Just gah.
Apr 16 18:46:57 <summatusmentis> you're gonna need to find a way to either flash the new kernel, or downgrade the modules
Apr 16 18:47:27 <DaSourcerer> Sheesh... can I flash the kernel from within Angstrom?
Apr 16 18:47:39 <summatusmentis> I don't believe so
Apr 16 18:47:45 <DaSourcerer> :[
Apr 16 18:48:23 <Sketch> no, you need to run the installer
Apr 16 18:48:36 <summatusmentis> there were people working on trying to find a way to not need to do flashing(using a bootloader, installing a kernel to /boot), but afaik, it's not possible now
Apr 16 18:48:57 <Sketch> summatusmentis: you could probably do it with uboot or altboot
Apr 16 18:49:09 <Sketch> (i forget which)
Apr 16 18:49:11 <summatusmentis> altboot isn't a bootloader
Apr 16 18:49:21 <Sketch> oh, maybe it was uboot then ;)
Apr 16 18:49:27 <Sketch> but it sounded like a pain to set up
Apr 16 18:49:27 <summatusmentis> u-boot was tested by hrw, but never found a way to make it work
Apr 16 18:49:39 <summatusmentis> yeah, I don't think it's considered to be feasible
Apr 16 18:49:48 <DaSourcerer> is it really called "u-boot"?
Apr 16 18:57:41 <summatusmentis> yep
Apr 16 18:59:07 <DaSourcerer> What a sense of humor.
Apr 16 19:05:02 <summatusmentis> I don't get it
Apr 16 19:05:24 <mickeyl> u-boot is the german word for submarine
Apr 16 19:05:34 <DaSourcerer> Yepp.
Apr 16 19:05:37 <Crofton> Das U-Boot
Apr 16 19:05:53 <DaSourcerer> I thought that were common knowledge since "Das Boot" :D
Apr 16 19:05:55 <mickeyl> u is also often used instead of µ, so this means it's a tiny bootloader (which it no longer is)
Apr 16 19:05:58 <DaSourcerer> Great movie, btw
Apr 16 19:06:20 <mickeyl> indeed
Apr 16 19:06:32 <mickeyl> very oppressive, but cool
Apr 16 19:06:32 <Crofton> More politicians ought to watch that movie
Apr 16 19:06:40 <Crofton> and Gallipoli
Apr 16 19:06:51 <DaSourcerer> And Catch 22, Dr. Strangelove, ...
Apr 16 19:07:04 <DaSourcerer> Syriana.
Apr 16 19:07:16 <summatusmentis> oh... I don't speak german very well :)
Apr 16 19:07:20 <Crofton> Instead I think they watch Dirty Harry, James Bond, and Rambo movies
Apr 16 19:07:29 <pH5> :D
Apr 16 19:07:34 <Crofton> mickeyl's German is excellent!
Apr 16 19:07:40 <DaSourcerer> Rambo I was quite good...
Apr 16 19:07:56 <summatusmentis> my German is just horrible
Apr 16 19:08:16 <DaSourcerer> Ok, summatusmentis. Let's practice a bit. Follow after me:
Apr 16 19:08:19 <DaSourcerer> David
Apr 16 19:08:25 <DaSourcerer> Hasselhoff
Apr 16 19:08:59 <summatusmentis> lol
Apr 16 19:09:13 <summatusmentis> Ich spreche keine deutsch
Apr 16 19:09:18 <summatusmentis> that's about the extend of it
Apr 16 19:09:21 <summatusmentis> extent*
Apr 16 19:09:36 <DaSourcerer> Wow. I speak as much French and Serbian...
Apr 16 19:10:19 <mickeyl> :)
Apr 16 19:10:28 <mickeyl> yeah, my german is better than my english
Apr 16 19:10:45 <DaSourcerer> My Russian is better than my French. So?
Apr 16 19:10:47 <mickeyl> must be a DNA thing ;)
Apr 16 19:10:51 <Crofton> mickeyl's english is far better than my german
Apr 16 19:10:57 * mickeyl bows
Apr 16 19:11:17 <Crofton> my mother might speak better German than mickeyl (and she is not a native speaker :)
Apr 16 19:11:24 <mickeyl> hehe
Apr 16 19:11:25 <mickeyl> no way
Apr 16 19:11:29 <Crofton> probably not
Apr 16 19:11:34 <Crofton> might be close
Apr 16 19:11:38 <mickeyl> yeah
Apr 16 19:11:44 <Crofton> well, when she was younger
Apr 16 19:14:04 <DaSourcerer> I speak english with a slight scottish accent.
Apr 16 19:14:33 <DaSourcerer> Not always an advantage. But it's just great to pick up women :>
Apr 16 19:15:51 <kario> Ich bin eine achzehn Jahre alt Taxifahrer aus Berlin
Apr 16 19:16:06 <summatusmentis> DaSourcerer: see, it's your fault normal guys like myself can't get women :)
Apr 16 19:16:27 <summatusmentis> you're... an 18 year old taxi driver in Berlin?
Apr 16 19:16:31 <DaSourcerer> Learn how to cook.
Apr 16 19:17:07 <kario> Ich habe ein Panzerwagen in meine Lederhosen
Apr 16 19:17:15 <DaSourcerer> wtf? :D
Apr 16 19:17:30 <summatusmentis> umm... isn't that uncomfortable?
Apr 16 19:17:31 <DaSourcerer> How come i doubt that? :))
Apr 16 19:17:55 <kario> that's about it
Apr 16 19:17:59 <DaSourcerer> Ist das wenigstens ein echter Panzerkampfwagen IVg "Königstiger"?
Apr 16 19:19:13 <kario> Jawohl
Apr 16 19:20:28 <summatusmentis> :-/
Apr 16 19:21:50 <DaSourcerer> Somehow the thought of someone having an old German tank from WWII weighing more than 20t in their trowsers amuses me :>
Apr 16 19:22:55 <summatusmentis> ok, that's what I thought he said
Apr 16 19:24:51 <DaSourcerer> btw, that's the tank I spoke of: http://www.rommelkiste.de/panzer4/index.html
Apr 16 20:00:38 <mimecar> hi
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