**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Apr 30 03:00:02 2008
Apr 30 13:08:02 <XorA> hmm, Angstrom is broken
Apr 30 13:29:03 <dcordes_> XorA: as in it doesn't build?
Apr 30 13:29:12 <j0wn> I tried to flash my Zaurus Collie with Angstrom unsrable R14 install kit .. the zImage seems to be ok but the initrd.bin is suspicious of being broken ...
Apr 30 13:29:23 <j0wn> *Unstable
Apr 30 13:29:28 <XorA> dcordes_: it boots to login prompt and thats it
Apr 30 13:29:40 <dcordes_> oh what did you test?
Apr 30 13:29:46 <dcordes_> s/what/what machine/
Apr 30 13:29:56 <XorA> omgta01
Apr 30 13:30:02 <dcordes_> lol
Apr 30 13:34:32 <XorA> kinda hard to login with only on/off button :-(
Apr 30 13:36:23 <dcordes_> Ã;(
Apr 30 13:41:42 <broonie> Someone must have written a morse code input device!
Apr 30 13:42:00 <XorA> there used to be a morse caps led driver for error messages
Apr 30 16:50:24 <DrZimmerman> hi all
Apr 30 16:50:43 <DrZimmerman> is there somewhere a description how to set up a cross compile environment?
Apr 30 16:51:19 <summatusmentis> www.openembedded.org
Apr 30 16:51:27 <johnx|zaurus> check out openembedded.org getting started section
Apr 30 16:51:42 <DrZimmerman> hmm is angstrom = oe?
Apr 30 16:51:50 <summatusmentis> angstrom is built using oe
Apr 30 16:51:51 <DrZimmerman> i thought they where both separate?
Apr 30 16:51:56 <DrZimmerman> ah ok
Apr 30 16:52:17 <summatusmentis> OE is the cross compile environment
Apr 30 16:52:27 <summatusmentis> Angstrom is a distro built using OE
Apr 30 16:52:28 <summatusmentis> :-)
Apr 30 16:57:16 <DrZimmerman> hmm ok, sounds complicated and the guide is also a bit complicated :)
Apr 30 16:57:41 <DrZimmerman> all i wish to do is run abiword in a recent version on my angstrom/gpe device
Apr 30 16:57:52 <summatusmentis> abiword is in the repos
Apr 30 16:58:13 <DrZimmerman> yes in version 2.5.2 which is according to the abiword ppl totally obsolete and buggy
Apr 30 16:58:26 <summatusmentis> oh
Apr 30 16:58:34 <DrZimmerman> the reason i've got to them is that abiword 2.5.2 is crashing quite often
Apr 30 16:58:54 <DrZimmerman> and also makes pango/gtk errors when i try a simple thing like inserting a symbol :)
Apr 30 16:59:22 <DrZimmerman> that's the reason why i would like to try out 2.6.2, perhaps i try to setup the cross compile env tomorrow
Apr 30 16:59:38 <summatusmentis> ok, then it sounds like you'll need to bot get OE setup, and possibly write your own .bb file
Apr 30 16:59:42 <DrZimmerman> i'm getting this http://rafb.net/p/VFjuyK95.html
Apr 30 16:59:44 <Sketch> install OE, donwload the latest version, modify the .bb file to point to the new version, and rebuild it
Apr 30 16:59:54 <Sketch> it's easier than it sounds ;)
Apr 30 16:59:58 <DrZimmerman> lol
Apr 30 17:00:09 <DrZimmerman> it's more complicated than it sounds ;)
Apr 30 17:00:09 * summatusmentis has never done anything w/ .bb files
Apr 30 17:00:20 <DrZimmerman> what is a .bb file, big brother? :)
Apr 30 17:00:24 <summatusmentis> it's really not, setting up OE is straightforward
Apr 30 17:00:27 <summatusmentis> bitbate
Apr 30 17:00:30 <summatusmentis> bitbake**
Apr 30 17:00:31 <DrZimmerman> ah
Apr 30 17:00:31 <Sketch> at least, assuming you have some distro where all of the deps are a yum/apt install away
Apr 30 17:00:54 <DrZimmerman> emergable :)
Apr 30 17:00:55 <Sketch> you just have to download a single tarball from OE, and then run a command to update the repo
Apr 30 17:01:13 <summatusmentis> DrZimmerman: you'll need to get a list of deps needed then
Apr 30 17:01:23 <DrZimmerman> yeah but then i have to reflash my distro on the device right?
Apr 30 17:01:23 <summatusmentis> in debian you can apt-get install openembedded-essential :)
Apr 30 17:01:29 <DrZimmerman> lol
Apr 30 17:01:35 <Sketch> summatusmentis: i figured you'd need to modify the version number for the source in the .bb file, but i haven't actually done it myself either
Apr 30 17:01:52 <Sketch> DrZimmerman: no, you can build .ipk files
Apr 30 17:02:02 <summatusmentis> DrZimmerman: you don't need to reflash, when you build abiword, it'll build a .ipk file, and you can just install those
Apr 30 17:02:06 <Sketch> then you can just copy your ipk file to the device and ipkg install <file>
Apr 30 17:02:13 <DrZimmerman> hmm, but i think that then i still need to upgrade all those dependencies
Apr 30 17:02:19 <summatusmentis> (along witht he dependencies)
Apr 30 17:02:27 <DrZimmerman> hehe
Apr 30 17:02:58 <summatusmentis> that's a valid point, does 2.6.2 depend on different versions of things?
Apr 30 17:03:04 <DrZimmerman> well my device is full (total 20mb, free 2mb) i've installed abiword and it's deps on a nfs share and everything is symlinked into the root of the device fs :)
Apr 30 17:03:13 <DrZimmerman> i dunno
Apr 30 17:03:28 <DrZimmerman> btw. in which package is ldconfig?
Apr 30 17:03:51 <DrZimmerman> everytime i install something ipkg (the postinst script) complains about ldconfig missing
Apr 30 17:04:32 <summatusmentis> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/?action=details&pnm=abiword says it's 2.6.0
Apr 30 17:05:03 <summatusmentis> although, only for armv6?
Apr 30 17:06:32 <DrZimmerman> i've got a StrongARM-1110 rev 8 (v4l) cpu, i guess it's then armv4?
Apr 30 17:07:40 <DrZimmerman> i'm using the arm-oabi feeds
Apr 30 17:09:05 <DrZimmerman> in this case i won't even try to build it :)
Apr 30 17:12:50 <summatusmentis> you can try and build it, it only means they aren't building it for anything but armv6
Apr 30 17:15:38 <DrZimmerman> well i think they don't build it for good reasons
Apr 30 17:16:00 <DrZimmerman> the cpu is like 8 years old, i think some things conflict with newer ones
Apr 30 17:16:50 <DrZimmerman> btw. is there a way to disable the annoying "send enter key" function with the virtual keyboard?
Apr 30 17:17:18 <DrZimmerman> when i don't hit a key exactly (a bit hard with a 4 wire touchscreen) it sends all the time the enter key signal
Apr 30 22:34:22 <likewise> what is responsible for writing /etc/fb.modes in Angstrom?
Apr 30 23:35:14 <yann> hi Marex 
Apr 30 23:36:20 <Marex> heloo, yann 
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