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May 10 04:58:08 <cstevencr> hi all
May 10 04:58:15 <cstevencr> i have a question
May 10 04:58:17 <cstevencr> im a newbie
May 10 04:58:27 <cstevencr> and i wnt to put linux in my palm tungsten C
May 10 04:58:31 <cstevencr> want*
May 10 04:58:47 <cstevencr> are linux available for palm tungsten C?
May 10 05:07:04 <johnx> google thinks it is
May 10 05:07:24 <cstevencr> :S
May 10 05:07:30 <cstevencr> i searched google
May 10 05:07:39 <cstevencr> but i have no seen any support
May 10 05:07:42 <cstevencr> no binaries
May 10 05:07:58 <cstevencr> only source code, but it not works...
May 10 05:08:00 <cstevencr> :S
May 10 05:08:03 <johnx> it looks like there are downloads here: http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/PalmTungstenCDownloads
May 10 05:08:56 <cstevencr> http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/PalmTungstenCStatus
May 10 05:09:11 <cstevencr> the status has the wifi support in progress...
May 10 05:09:17 <cstevencr> no wifi support :(
May 10 05:09:36 <cstevencr> "Early hacky code working, can associate and ping ok."
May 10 05:09:37 <cstevencr> :S
May 10 05:09:44 <johnx> it says it can associate and ping...but maybe it has problems? I don't know anything about the tungsten c
May 10 05:10:04 <cstevencr> tngsten c is the most expensive palm
May 10 05:10:08 <cstevencr> tungsten*
May 10 05:10:25 <cstevencr> mmm... i have to make a try ;)
May 10 05:10:36 <cstevencr> compile kernel, bootloader.. and try
May 10 05:11:04 <cstevencr> well
May 10 05:11:12 <cstevencr> thanks for all (really)
May 10 05:11:17 <cstevencr> i have now hope
May 10 05:11:22 <cstevencr> ;)
May 10 05:11:30 <cstevencr> thanks johnx 
May 10 05:11:33 <cstevencr> bye bye
May 10 05:11:36 <johnx> sure,
May 10 05:11:38 <johnx> one sec
May 10 05:11:41 <cstevencr> ok
May 10 05:11:43 <cstevencr> i will wait
May 10 05:11:56 <johnx> ah, sorry, thought I found something...
May 10 05:11:57 <johnx> nevermind
May 10 05:12:05 <johnx> good luck :)
May 10 05:12:06 <cstevencr> what did you found?
May 10 05:12:35 <johnx> I looked to see if there was an autobuild in angstrom for the tungsten c, but I guess not
May 10 05:12:52 <cstevencr> :S
May 10 05:13:03 <cstevencr> i have to build with console...
May 10 05:13:05 <cstevencr> make
May 10 05:13:08 <cstevencr> make install
May 10 05:13:09 <cstevencr> etc
May 10 05:13:20 <cstevencr> ahhh
May 10 05:13:27 <cstevencr> tell me about the palm linux os
May 10 05:13:40 <cstevencr> do i have to install angstrom?
May 10 05:13:46 <cstevencr> + bootloader garux?
May 10 05:13:54 <cstevencr> are there another linux embedded oses?
May 10 05:14:02 <cstevencr> im a newbie
May 10 05:14:11 <cstevencr> in this theme of pda's
May 10 05:14:42 <johnx> I don't know much about the palm PDAs
May 10 05:14:45 <johnx> I have a zaurus
May 10 05:14:57 <cstevencr> heheh zaurus is the best pda
May 10 05:15:02 <cstevencr> i know
May 10 05:15:10 <johnx> it looks like there is a howto here: http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/PalmTungstenCHowTo
May 10 05:15:19 <cstevencr> yeah im reading now
May 10 05:15:47 <johnx> and there are links to a forum on this page: http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/PalmTungstenC
May 10 05:16:01 <johnx> people on the forum should know more about palm and linux than me
May 10 05:16:11 <johnx> anyways, I need to eat lunch
May 10 05:16:15 <johnx> I might be back on later
May 10 05:16:17 <johnx> good luck
May 10 05:16:29 <cstevencr> thanks too much ;)
May 10 05:16:35 <cstevencr> well, bye bye!!!
May 10 05:16:36 <cstevencr> ;)
May 10 07:14:40 <cyrilRomain> gm
May 10 08:12:02 <cyrilRomain> does anyone tried angstrom built with llvm instead of gcc ?
May 10 11:06:03 <mimecar> morning
May 10 11:58:14 <j0wn> morning all
May 10 11:58:30 <mimecar> hi j0wn
May 10 11:58:39 <j0wn> hi mimecar 
May 10 11:59:45 <j0wn> ive come to the conclusion i need faster hardware for builds :)
May 10 12:00:30 <mimecar> i need help with locales :P
May 10 12:01:17 <j0wn> whats wrong?
May 10 12:01:40 <mimecar> i build locales correctly, but they are not included on final image
May 10 12:02:02 <mimecar> checking environment variables i can see locale-es on my image
May 10 12:02:14 <mimecar> and some matchbox app name are showed coorrectly
May 10 12:02:21 <mimecar> but other apps no
May 10 12:02:55 <j0wn> hmmm
May 10 14:47:15 <mimecar> hi mickeyl
May 10 14:48:26 <mickeyl> hey
May 10 15:17:56 <mimecar> hi wozza
May 10 15:54:18 <j0wn> mimecar, altboot-console-image failed in packaging stage
May 10 15:54:48 <mimecar> is there an image with altboot included?
May 10 15:54:57 <j0wn> ImportError: No module named _md5
May 10 15:56:08 <j0wn> do_rootfs was the task
May 10 15:57:55 <mimecar> i don't have build system now
May 10 15:58:15 <mimecar> (problems with my vmware image), i must start from the scratch
May 10 15:58:25 <j0wn> ooeer
May 10 15:58:40 <j0wn> i think il wait for tomorrow then do a clean checkout 
May 10 16:12:39 <mimecar> are you working with stable version ?
May 10 18:37:31 <[cc]smart> (join #nslu2-linux
May 10 18:48:14 <summatusmentis> is there anyone around w/ an iPaq hx4700?
May 10 18:59:27 <pH5> summatusmentis: more or less. I've got one, but I'm a bit out of the loop. got an easy question? ;)
May 10 18:59:42 <summatusmentis> pH5: I've obtained one, that doesn't seem to be able to turn on
May 10 19:00:07 <summatusmentis> so, absolutely nothing relating to angstrom until I can get it booting :)
May 10 19:00:45 <pH5> summatusmentis: just not booting or no sign of life at all?
May 10 19:01:23 <pH5> can you boot into the htc bootloader (press contacts + itask buttons and then push reset while holding them)
May 10 19:02:08 <summatusmentis> no, I'm not getting any charge sign, I've tried that
May 10 19:02:56 <XorA> tested charger voltage :-)
May 10 19:03:06 <summatusmentis> don't know how to do that
May 10 19:03:12 <XorA> multi meter
May 10 19:03:38 <summatusmentis> umm.... I used to have a multi meter around... I don't know where it went :-.
May 10 19:03:40 <summatusmentis> :-/
May 10 19:03:44 * XorA has been given many broken gadgets that turned out the charger was fucked, not the gadget
May 10 19:04:50 <summatusmentis> but if I can't get into the bootloader, it's likely a hardware issue?
May 10 19:05:19 <XorA> summatusmentis: well if charger is buggered, then battery dont charge, and nothing works
May 10 19:05:29 <XorA> summatusmentis: any sign of life at all, LED's etc
May 10 19:05:42 <pH5> XorA: leds are controlled by wince, so that's no use
May 10 19:05:48 <summatusmentis> none
May 10 19:05:48 * pH5 doesn't remember, but can't the hx4700 run off AC without the battery?
May 10 19:06:06 <summatusmentis> I tried that also, and there's no sign of life there either
May 10 19:06:23 <XorA> is hx4700 like other ipaqs and just +5v, try a different gadget charger
May 10 19:07:33 <summatusmentis> trying my 3200 charger
May 10 19:07:39 <summatusmentis> is there a charging light or something?
May 10 19:07:50 <XorA> I think ph5 just answered that :-)
May 10 19:08:13 <summatusmentis> well, that's just stupid
May 10 19:08:13 <XorA> pH5: BTW whay are you slightly acidic?
May 10 19:09:44 <summatusmentis> is there a way to re-flash the rom? or do I need to get into the bootloader to do that?
May 10 19:09:54 <pH5> XorA: I think back in chemistry class I we thought it was funny. It's pH5 for Philipp.
May 10 19:10:48 <pH5> summatusmentis: that or JTAG, I think tnb had that working
May 10 19:11:14 <summatusmentis> this is well beyond my realm :)
May 10 19:11:30 <summatusmentis> I don't know anything about JTAG, or chargers
May 10 19:11:48 <summatusmentis> (using my Z charger that I know works)
May 10 19:12:03 <summatusmentis> I'm worried it's the charger port on the device itself
May 10 19:12:25 <XorA> pH5: :-D
May 10 19:12:26 <pH5> summatusmentis: find a multimeter and check battery voltage
May 10 19:15:40 <pH5> (or connect the battery to your favourite gadget's onewire bus and ask it itself ;))
May 10 19:17:14 <summatusmentis> I don't know how to do anything with a onewire bus
May 10 19:51:50 <CoreDump> even if your flash is toast, the built-in NOR (r/o) recovery menu will still work. If not it's a h/w problem :\
May 10 19:52:53 <CoreDump> also the device will refuse to turn on if the battery is dead, even when plugged into the wall
May 10 19:54:46 <CoreDump> you could try a collie, c7x0, akita or tosa charger. They should be identical.
May 10 20:00:44 <pH5> CoreDump: the hx4700 only has (128MB of) NOR
May 10 20:00:51 <pH5> the bootloader/flasher is in the first 128kB eraseblock.
May 10 20:02:53 <CoreDump> oh sorry I misread
May 10 20:02:59 <CoreDump> I thought his spitz was dead
May 10 20:06:39 <pH5> ah, now your statement makes sense to me :)
May 10 20:06:50 * pH5 never had a zaurus and doesn't know about its recovery menu
May 10 22:30:42 <wko> hello there, I've just installed angstrom on my z3100 and I cant find many packages on the angstrom repo, can anyone tellme where can i find outres packages for angstrom?
May 10 22:31:30 <XorA> wko: all the packages are in Angstrom feeds
May 10 22:31:37 <XorA> wko: anything you want that is not there?
May 10 22:32:05 <dcordes> hi XorA 
May 10 22:32:18 * XorA hides from dcords
May 10 22:32:36 <dcordes> :D
May 10 22:33:05 <wko> yes, actually I was trying to find ettercap and a vncviewer
May 10 22:33:29 <dcordes> XorA: excuse my complaints about the commit. I wasn't in command of my OE
May 10 22:34:02 <dcordes> we should update the kaiser-kernel to build form linuxtogo anytime soon
May 10 22:34:08 <XorA> dcordes: no hassles, I could easilly have typoed it, so always better to check
May 10 22:34:33 <XorA> all this OM work rots the brain
May 10 22:34:42 <XorA> dcordes: ah, you guys got a new repo?
May 10 22:34:48 <dcordes> yea own one
May 10 22:34:58 <dcordes> http://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/htc-msm
May 10 22:35:46 <dcordes> XorA: I have read in the planet about a leaving worker. Sounds hard with all the deadlines and so
May 10 22:36:12 <XorA> dcordes: excellent, well now bugtracker is back online, feel free to open kaiser bugs and assign them to me
May 10 22:36:25 <XorA> dcordes: Ill try and sort them as soon as I have time
May 10 22:36:37 <XorA> dcordes: Im interested in getting my kaiser working better :-)
May 10 22:36:45 <pH5> XorA: you got a kaiser too?
May 10 22:36:53 <XorA> pH5: yes
May 10 22:37:08 <dcordes> cool. I tried a minimal-openmoko-image but it didn't work -at least ootb. but that may just be due to the rmadisk breakage
May 10 22:37:15 <dcordes> hi pH5 
May 10 22:37:20 <XorA> pH5: gave away my wizard and got a kaiser
May 10 22:37:27 <XorA> pH5: I love my HTC phones
May 10 22:38:17 <pH5> great, that device deserves good angstrom support :)
May 10 22:38:29 * XorA spots MMC driver support
May 10 22:39:15 <dcordes> I wish I would have a clue how to continue with MMC
May 10 22:39:26 <dcordes> basically we have all we need. sdc drivers for msm7x00 are there
May 10 22:39:41 <dcordes> memory map is very complete
May 10 22:44:22 * pH5 .zZ
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