**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Sep 09 02:59:57 2008 Sep 09 15:55:48 so, ehh, dare I ask... what's the status of collie support? ;) Sep 09 16:08:45 probably not changed all that much Sep 09 16:09:35 seems like the previous maintainers lost interest in the zauri Sep 09 16:09:46 akita is at 21 or so Sep 09 16:10:29 much more recent than that... Sep 09 16:11:15 you're right, zImage-2.6.23-r34-akita.bin that's the last zImage I built Sep 09 16:11:31 2 weeks ago Sep 09 16:11:31 2.6.24 on my akita Sep 09 16:11:52 does OE build 24? Sep 09 16:13:22 but the collie is pretty underpowered by today's standards and I guess no one is interested in working on the code much Sep 09 16:13:31 yeah Sep 09 16:13:31 there's an autobuild of it Sep 09 16:13:32 and I'm running it Sep 09 16:13:38 I've got angstrom on flash, poky on an sd card and debian on another sd card :) Sep 09 16:13:39 akita is also going that direction sadly Sep 09 16:13:47 still one of the best henadhelds imo Sep 09 16:14:03 ah yea also a big fan of poky here Sep 09 16:14:24 I've really been enjoying using midori for web browsing Sep 09 16:14:58 I'll probably buy a new battery for it soon Sep 09 16:15:04 funny Sep 09 16:15:13 I have also been thinking about that the other day Sep 09 16:15:40 they are not too expensive Sep 09 16:16:58 meh, the linux kernel isn't changing like it was in the past...and I'm happy with the support right now Sep 09 16:17:08 by the time the kernel is the limiting factor for using new software I think there will be better options than the akita Sep 09 16:17:30 openpandora is a real competitor Sep 09 16:17:40 in my eyes. but the keyboard is better on akita Sep 09 16:17:45 I also have a Nokia N800...I'd just about kill to have an N800 board in an akita... Sep 09 16:18:01 openpandora is way more powerful than n800 Sep 09 16:18:44 yeah...I'll probably be getting one as soon as I can afford it Sep 09 16:18:44 yup, and even the omap2420 is a lot faster than the pxa270 at the same clock speed Sep 09 16:19:59 still akita is a handheld with character :) Sep 09 16:20:09 plus, 64MB RAM vs 128MB RAM is like night and day Sep 09 16:20:15 have you tried the fennec browser on it? Sep 09 16:20:22 ..indeed Sep 09 16:21:21 the collie has more character IMHO Sep 09 16:21:21 I still love that form factor Sep 09 16:22:02 nope. haven't tried fennec Sep 09 16:22:07 I tried ff3, epiphany-webkit and midori Sep 09 16:23:51 gecko based browsers don't interest me that much in the embedded world Sep 09 16:24:04 midori is the only one i could actually get to run and it was so slow it's practically useless Sep 09 16:24:15 on a c3100 Sep 09 16:27:21 perhaps with overclocking it would be better... Sep 09 16:33:42 Sketch, which version? Sep 09 16:33:44 also, which sites? Sep 09 16:33:54 I have 0.0.19 here and it's noticeably faster than older versions Sep 09 16:33:56 some sites still kill it though Sep 09 16:34:00 maybe google's js vm will help if it can be integrated Sep 09 16:35:11 don't have my Z on me so i can't check the version right now Sep 09 16:35:27 but probably not the latest, i haven't updated it for a while Sep 09 16:35:34 so perhaps i need 0.0.19 Sep 09 16:36:28 * johnx wonders which version angstrom has... Sep 09 16:37:45 oh, there's 0.0.21 with more speed increases in 2008.6 Sep 09 16:40:04 interesting Sep 09 16:40:56 oh cool, compatibility with greasemonkey userscripts Sep 09 16:42:49 guess i need to update to 2008.6 Sep 09 16:46:07 yeah, I guess I should try 2008.6 too Sep 09 16:49:35 * johnx digs out a card for flashing... Sep 09 16:54:09 anyone have experience with 2008.6 on a zaurus Cxx00 ? Sep 10 02:32:59 OE/angstrom is so promising, i wish some rich benefactor would pour in big $$$ to really boost it along Sep 10 02:33:24 heh Sep 10 02:33:29 so do we all :) Sep 10 02:33:43 until them, we do the best we can Sep 10 02:34:36 it has so much potential, but it's a very rough-cut diamond at the moment Sep 10 02:34:55 agrred Sep 10 02:34:58 agreed Sep 10 02:35:26 still, people are doing good work with it Sep 10 02:35:41 i hope i can figure out how to get bluetooth TCP/IP working over a GPRS cellphone Sep 10 02:35:44 vendors develop coping strategies :) Sep 10 02:35:56 bluetooth networking seems to kinda work to my linux workstation Sep 10 02:36:09 cool Sep 10 02:36:17 I don't do much bluetooth Sep 10 02:37:09 well, i'm using an ipaq 4350, with no cellphone access, so bluetooth is my only option for contact with the outside world when i'm away from my pc Sep 10 02:37:55 anyway, i stuck up a wiki page on how to build apps without messing with OE/bitbake: http://linuxtogo.org/gowiki/CompilingYourOwnCode Sep 10 02:38:26 i've already ported libfltk (gui toolkit) and one of my forth interpreters Sep 10 02:38:40 bbiab Sep 10 02:43:35 you should be able to use the sdk targets to creat toolchains for external use Sep 10 02:43:46 although, they may need work :) Sep 10 02:43:53 aum, I need to fal over Sep 10 02:43:54 gn Sep 10 02:58:45 Hey guys, I just built aterm on my spitz. It starts a little faster than rxvt-unicode, scrolls a few thousand times faster (lol), and the text is actually more readable. Sep 10 02:59:46 Makes me wonder why rxvt-unicode is so slow. Would it be because of the anti-alieased text? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Sep 10 02:59:57 2008