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Sep 15 11:59:18 <Tomoe> hy guyse does angstrom have japanese input?
Sep 15 18:23:36 <mimecar> hi
Sep 15 18:42:20 <Jin^eLD> hi, I'm using angstrom stable and I am trying to figure out how to specify which kernel modules should be loaded at startup. /etc/modules and /etc/modules.conf both have the same text
Sep 15 18:42:31 <Jin^eLD> saying that these files are autogenerated and one should look at etc/modutils (which is not there)
Sep 15 18:42:40 <Jin^eLD> any hints? or would the ususal modprobe.conf do the trick?
Sep 15 18:42:54 <mimecar> i don't know Jin^eLD
Sep 15 18:43:50 <Jin^eLD> well, does any of you have an /etc/modutils directory?
Sep 15 18:43:55 <Jin^eLD> if yes - what do you have in there? :>
Sep 15 18:44:18 <mimecar> my zaurus can't boot up actually :P
Sep 15 18:44:49 <Tomoe> sux2bu
Sep 15 18:46:54 <mimecar> 1730new  revisions..
Sep 15 18:47:02 <mimecar> i must update oe database ...
Sep 15 18:47:50 <Jin^eLD> I think I figured it out... 
Sep 15 18:47:53 <Jin^eLD> thx anyway
Sep 15 18:48:08 <mimecar> why don't you ask on the angstrom mailing list ?
Sep 15 18:48:55 <Jin^eLD> me? well, seemed a too simple question :)
Sep 15 18:49:04 <Jin^eLD> but I finally found something useful in google, so it's ok
Sep 15 18:49:51 <mimecar> ok
Sep 15 18:50:00 <Tomoe> Jin^eLD: what was it?
Sep 15 18:50:10 <mimecar> what ?
Sep 15 18:50:30 <Jin^eLD> Tomoe: you need to create an /etc/modutils directory
Sep 15 18:50:36 <Jin^eLD> there you can put textfiles which just list the modules you want
Sep 15 18:50:39 <Jin^eLD> after that run update-modules
Sep 15 18:50:44 <Jin^eLD> and it will write /etc/modutils
Sep 15 18:50:55 <Jin^eLD> no idea why it is done this way,but well, seems to work
Sep 15 18:51:47 <Tomoe> that's how it usually works with the Z
Sep 15 18:51:48 <Tomoe> =D
Sep 15 18:52:54 <Jin^eLD> I wonder what /etc/modules.conf is good for, since the changes that are written by update-modules end up in /etc/modules
Sep 15 18:52:55 <Tomoe> mimecar: do you know if Angstrom supports japanese input?
Sep 15 18:54:07 <mimecar> if you run unicode, it should
Sep 15 18:54:22 <mimecar> but i can't say you "it works at 100"
Sep 15 18:54:29 <mimecar> i haven't checket it
Sep 15 18:54:29 <Tomoe> uh, that's for the display of jap chars
Sep 15 18:54:34 <Tomoe> I'm talking about IME
Sep 15 18:54:40 <mimecar> ime?
Sep 15 18:54:56 <Tomoe> you need special libs/programs for inputting japanese
Sep 15 18:55:01 <Tomoe> cant just write like with latin
Sep 15 18:55:04 <mimecar> ok
Sep 15 18:55:08 <Tomoe> lol
Sep 15 18:55:16 <Tomoe> ah well nevermind
Sep 15 18:55:22 <Tomoe> I won't bother you with it 
Sep 15 18:55:23 <Tomoe> =D
Sep 15 18:55:46 <mimecar> check angstrom ffed for those "japanese programs"
Sep 15 18:56:04 <mimecar> feed
Sep 15 18:57:05 <Tomoe> ok
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Sep 15 20:37:30 <mimecar> re
Sep 15 20:57:13 <Tomoe> mimecar: you wish
Sep 15 21:00:38 <mimecar> Tomoe: ?
Sep 15 21:00:54 <Tomoe> mimecar: as the channel is dead, no much need for a 're' =D
Sep 15 21:01:00 <Tomoe> RE ALL
Sep 15 21:01:04 <Tomoe> ALL IZ DED
Sep 15 21:01:05 <Tomoe> =(
Sep 15 21:01:25 <mimecar> mailing list is more active
Sep 15 21:02:10 <kolla> re
Sep 15 21:02:28 <mimecar> hi kolla
Sep 15 21:02:38 <kolla> :)
Sep 15 21:06:39 <Tomoe> kolla: oh shutup
Sep 15 21:06:41 <Tomoe> =))
Sep 15 21:10:32 <kolla> :)
Sep 15 22:05:42 <bluelightning> woot, Angstrom now supports Opie :D
Sep 15 22:05:44 * bluelightning dances
Sep 15 22:14:48 <Crofton|work> bluelightning, Angstrom doesn't support Opie, some people support Opie running on Angstrom :)
Sep 15 22:15:20 <bluelightning> Crofton|work: well, it supports Opie to the extent that it supports GPE
Sep 15 22:15:28 <bluelightning> :)
Sep 15 22:16:17 <Crofton|work> sometimes it feels like people forget Angstrom is only as good as people working on the distribution and the applications running on it
Sep 15 22:16:40 <bluelightning> yeah, I know what you mean
Sep 15 22:17:07 <bluelightning> still, this is a big thing for Opie, we have languished for a very long time without official support from any distribution
Sep 15 22:17:14 <Crofton|work> yeah
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Sep 16 08:40:01 <aum> hi, i'm trying to build dev branch of OE tree, but I get:
Sep 16 08:40:42 <aum>  /OE/org.openembedded.stable/packages/linux/linux-handhelds-2.6_2.6.21-hh20.bb
Sep 16 08:40:48 <aum> and the logfile says:
Sep 16 08:41:00 <aum>  /OE/org.openembedded.stable/packages/linux/linux-handhelds-2.6_2.6.21-hh20.bb' failed
Sep 16 08:41:11 <aum> sry, the logfile says:
Sep 16 08:41:21 <aum>  /OE/angstrom-tmp//deploy/uclibc/images/h4000// does not exist, you may need to bitbake it separately
Sep 16 14:18:41 * syb-away is back.
Sep 16 16:03:19 <Gnutoo> !logs
Sep 16 16:03:19 <cdbot2> Channel logs for #angstrom are archived at:
Sep 16 16:03:20 <cdbot2> http://hentges.net/tmp/logs/irc/%23angstrom
Sep 16 16:03:21 <cdbot2> Live-logs are available at
Sep 16 16:03:23 <cdbot2> http://hentges.net/tmp/logs/irc/livelogs/%23angstrom.livelog
Sep 16 16:03:25 <cdbot2> See ?? help-logs for usage instructions
Sep 16 16:09:03 <Gnutoo> hello,openmoko use Angstrom...so i have a question about Angstrom: how can i make command start when i open a console...i was suggested to use /etc/profile...but what i added is stated only from ssh...not when i open a real console on the device...is there another file like /etc/profile that i could use in order to do that...my goal is to make keychain work because typing passwords or commands on this device is time 
Sep 16 16:09:03 <Gnutoo> consuming...
Sep 16 16:12:52 <syb> Gnutoo: On my laptop here, my ~/.bash_profile contains:
Sep 16 16:12:55 <syb> eval `keychain --eval id_rsa id_dsa`
Sep 16 16:13:24 <Gnutoo> syb, so ~/.bash_profile works on angstrom?
Sep 16 16:14:36 <Gnutoo> Gnutoo, i'll try to use ~/.bash_profile...thanks
Sep 16 16:14:47 <Gnutoo> oops s/GNUtoo/syb/
Sep 16 16:14:53 <syb> ...since Keychain is a /bin/sh script, it should work?
Sep 16 16:15:07 <Gnutoo> it works with --eval...
Sep 16 16:15:43 <Gnutoo> and as there was no install command i had to copy and chmod it
Sep 16 16:15:48 <syb> Gnutoo: Lookingat my install of recent-ish Angstrom on my H5550 now... i'll see what shell is running.
Sep 16 16:16:02 <Gnutoo> ok thanks a lot
Sep 16 16:22:55 <syb>  /etc/skel/ contains a ".bashrc" and a ".profile"
Sep 16 16:24:18 <Gnutoo> thanks a lot!!!
Sep 16 16:27:08 <syb> Gnutoo: I can't advise you on which file to put the keychain --eval command because I don't remember which file gets sourced by Login V.S. Non-Login Shells. So depending upon your use of Console v.s. GUI, you may get annoyed by Keychain trying to run and prompt you for SSH Key Passphrases.
Sep 16 16:27:37 <Gnutoo> syb, ok at least i would have tried
Sep 16 16:28:12 <syb> Gnutoo: Please try using Keychain then report back here with what you achieved... for my benifit and The Record in the logs that some of us occasionally(? *grin*) search before asking questions.
Sep 16 16:28:25 <Gnutoo> ok thanks
Sep 16 17:13:02 * syb is away: Gone away for now.
Sep 16 18:13:54 <Gnutoo> it was the terminal emulator...with vte it works...
Sep 16 18:14:09 <Gnutoo> i've also set bash as my shell in /etc/passwd
Sep 16 19:56:41 <aum> hi - can anyone shed light on:
Sep 16 19:56:42 <aum> NOTE: package ncurses-native-5.4-r15: task do_qa_staging: started
Sep 16 19:56:42 <aum> NOTE: QA checking staging
Sep 16 19:56:42 <aum> ERROR: QA Issue: libpanel.la failed sanity test (workdir) in path /home/david/work/sw/pocketpc/openembedded/OE/angstrom-tmp//staging/i686-linux/usr/lib
Sep 16 21:01:54 <mimecar> hi
Sep 16 21:01:59 <mimecar> evening dcordes
Sep 16 21:02:38 <dcordes> hey mimecar 
Sep 16 21:02:44 <dcordes> how are things?
Sep 16 21:03:21 <mimecar> all it's fine
Sep 16 21:03:22 <mimecar> and you?
Sep 16 21:05:57 <dcordes> same, everything ok
Sep 16 21:19:44 <dcordes> are you still running the spanish zaurus website?
Sep 16 21:19:52 <mimecar> yes
Sep 16 21:20:10 <dcordes> nice
Sep 16 21:20:19 <mimecar> but there're not updates on some months..
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