**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Oct 05 02:59:57 2008
Oct 05 16:46:43 <Verty> how do I rebuild a part of the image, for instance a kernel?
Oct 05 16:50:38 <johnx> in openembedded? either bitbake -c clean linux-rp-2.6.26 && bitbake linux-rp-2.6.26
Oct 05 16:51:01 <johnx> or if you changed it you should increase the PR number in its .bb file, and bitbake linux-rp
Oct 05 16:53:17 <Verty> alright that did the trick, thanx!
Oct 05 17:02:56 <xcraft> Hi, i want to install centericq. is it possible? 
Oct 05 17:04:39 <johnx> xcraft, is it in the feed browser on angstrom-distribution.org?
Oct 05 17:05:18 <xcraft> no, i searched for it but couldnt find it.
Oct 05 17:06:24 <johnx> then, that means it's not built for angstrom. You (or someone else) could build it in OpenEmbedded
Oct 05 17:08:28 <bluelightning> 4.11 is in OE stable
Oct 05 17:08:42 <bluelightning> I'll add it to the package request list
Oct 05 17:09:55 <xcraft> i use just console. do i have to have oe to use it? i thought it is console based.
Oct 05 17:10:55 <bluelightning> OE is the build system that is used to build Angstrom
Oct 05 17:11:34 <bluelightning> OE = OpenEmbedded in case it's not obvious :)
Oct 05 17:11:53 <xcraft> oh i see. ty for the explanation
Oct 05 17:12:31 <xcraft> i just installed this distro. :)
Oct 05 17:14:11 <mimecar> xcraft, whay don't you use x11 image ?
Oct 05 17:16:05 <xcraft> i am just console lover. i like to do things in console and in my zaurus device it extends the battery life.
Oct 05 17:17:36 <mimecar> ok
Oct 05 18:02:13 <Tomoe> hy guys
Oct 05 18:03:05 <johnx> hey
Oct 05 18:03:27 <Tomoe> hello hodogaya =D
Oct 05 18:03:42 <johnx> Hello, Mr. HR
Oct 05 18:04:02 <Tomoe> johnx: there was a guy on #zaurus asking about what's the best distro to put on a 5500
Oct 05 18:04:12 <Tomoe> seeing as how you played with one a lot, what would you say?
Oct 05 18:04:15 <johnx> that's a tough call
Oct 05 18:04:18 <johnx> real tough
Oct 05 18:04:40 <Tomoe> I just told him to check the model specific forum on the oesf site
Oct 05 18:04:43 <johnx> it depends on what he wants, but I'd say openzaurus 3.5.4 hentges version or sharp rom
Oct 05 18:04:49 <Tomoe> and he got tkcrom out of that
Oct 05 18:04:54 <Tomoe> mm
Oct 05 18:04:55 <Tomoe> ok
Oct 05 18:05:02 <johnx> yeah, tkcrom is like sharp rom
Oct 05 18:05:05 <johnx> (IIRC)
Oct 05 18:05:11 <johnx> gah, it's been years
Oct 05 18:05:15 <Tomoe> well
Oct 05 18:05:27 <Tomoe> if he pops back I'll forward the msg =P
Oct 05 18:05:38 <johnx> just tell him he made the right choice :)
Oct 05 18:05:49 <johnx> is #zaurus active?
Oct 05 18:07:05 <Tomoe> not really
Oct 05 18:07:07 <Tomoe> lol
Oct 05 18:07:11 <johnx> sad
Oct 05 18:07:12 <Tomoe> it's just like the real zaurus
Oct 05 18:07:15 <Tomoe> DEAD!!!
Oct 05 18:07:25 <Tomoe> =')
Oct 05 18:07:36 <johnx> yeah, I've been trying to get stuff running lately...but 64MB of RAM is too limiting these days
Oct 05 18:07:49 <Verty> no it's not! ;)
Oct 05 18:07:58 <johnx> two words: web. browser.
Oct 05 18:08:07 <Tomoe> mm
Oct 05 18:08:08 <Verty> doesn't ring a bell :)
Oct 05 18:08:13 <Tomoe> Verty: lol
Oct 05 18:08:16 <johnx> carry on, then
Oct 05 18:08:40 <Verty> openzaurus is pretty useless currently as the main feed is down :(
Oct 05 18:08:57 * Verty 's main reason to f*ck around with angstrom on his collie
Oct 05 18:09:18 <Tomoe> 64M should be enough for a browser
Oct 05 18:09:20 <Tomoe> in theory
Oct 05 18:09:21 <Tomoe> =P
Oct 05 18:09:21 <johnx> I'll probably get a new SD card soon for that very reason
Oct 05 18:09:30 <johnx> Tomoe, in practice it's not
Oct 05 18:10:07 <Verty> johnx: lynx? :)
Oct 05 18:10:18 <johnx> Verty, google maps? :)
Oct 05 18:10:58 <Tomoe> well
Oct 05 18:11:16 <Tomoe> get a 256MB CF and use it exclusively for swap
Oct 05 18:11:17 <Tomoe> lol
Oct 05 18:11:21 <johnx> though now that I think about it an ASCII art google maps sounds like the coolest thing ever
Oct 05 18:11:36 <johnx> Tomoe, I'd love to ... but that's where my wifi card goes :P
Oct 05 18:12:44 <Tomoe> owned.
Oct 05 18:12:59 <johnx> I do actually swap to SD card
Oct 05 18:13:01 <Tomoe> I think I'm gonna hack a cheap usb wifi
Oct 05 18:13:10 <Tomoe> and put a mini usb there
Oct 05 18:13:14 <Tomoe> at a 90 angle
Oct 05 18:13:17 <johnx> not enough juice on the usb jack
Oct 05 18:13:43 <Tomoe> eh
Oct 05 18:13:48 <Tomoe> tried already?
Oct 05 18:13:54 <johnx> lots of people have tried
Oct 05 18:13:54 <Tomoe> I tried with one, it worked
Oct 05 18:14:00 <johnx> really?
Oct 05 18:14:04 <johnx> which one?
Oct 05 18:14:16 <Tomoe> of course, the AP was 3m away lol (it was in the linux cafe in akihabara)
Oct 05 18:14:19 <johnx> I've heard a lot of failures and I think you're the first success
Oct 05 18:14:33 <johnx> Tomoe, when did you last go there?
Oct 05 18:14:40 <Tomoe> lol
Oct 05 18:14:47 <johnx> just curious
Oct 05 18:14:49 <Tomoe> don't tell me you were in tokyo alt.2600 too?
Oct 05 18:14:50 <Tomoe> =P
Oct 05 18:15:07 <johnx> nah, but I swung by there recently and it kinda looked closed :/
Oct 05 18:15:11 <Tomoe> yeah
Oct 05 18:15:21 <Tomoe> first they closed the wifi
Oct 05 18:15:24 <Tomoe> it used to be open
Oct 05 18:15:28 <Tomoe> then they started charging
Oct 05 18:15:35 <Tomoe> which pretty much killed the alt.2600 meetings lol
Oct 05 18:15:50 <Tomoe> it was maybe 2-2.5 years ago
Oct 05 18:16:05 <Tomoe> then they held some microsoft events there
Oct 05 18:16:06 <Tomoe> etc
Oct 05 18:16:13 <johnx> heh
Oct 05 18:16:15 <Tomoe> not much of a 'linux cafe' anymore
Oct 05 18:16:40 <johnx> I walked by once, but I couldn't figure out if it didn't exist anymore or if I just wasn't smart enough to find the door
Oct 05 18:16:56 <Tomoe> it is kinda hard to find it at first hehe
Oct 05 18:17:00 <Tomoe> walked by so many times 
Oct 05 18:17:14 <Tomoe> used to orient myself by that keyboard shop right next to it
Oct 05 18:17:21 <Tomoe> my fav shop in akihabara =)
Oct 05 18:17:36 <johnx> that place is still there
Oct 05 18:17:45 <johnx> I just bought a keyboard there :D
Oct 05 18:17:48 <Tomoe> hehe
Oct 05 18:17:49 <Tomoe> which one?
Oct 05 18:18:01 <johnx> a little usb one for my nokia n800
Oct 05 18:18:13 <Tomoe> I bought a Happy Hacking Keyboard Pro - Black Blank there
Oct 05 18:18:18 <Tomoe> man
Oct 05 18:18:22 <Tomoe> 200$ =F
Oct 05 18:18:23 <johnx> too rich for my blood
Oct 05 18:18:29 <Tomoe> well
Oct 05 18:19:25 <Tomoe> input/output devices are the only thing where I'm not a cheapass
Oct 05 18:19:29 <Tomoe> as for the mini usb keybo
Oct 05 18:19:40 <Tomoe> dont tell me its this one
Oct 05 18:19:41 <Tomoe> http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.15953
Oct 05 18:20:32 <johnx> nah, though I looked at it recently
Oct 05 18:20:41 <Tomoe> this one's nice
Oct 05 18:20:49 <Tomoe> my idea of a portable keyboard
Oct 05 18:20:49 <johnx> it wasn't around 2 months ago. I would have liked to try it
Oct 05 18:21:02 <Tomoe> keep the fullsize keys but remove the ones on side
Oct 05 18:21:51 <johnx> I might have to get one soon
Oct 05 18:21:57 <Tomoe> it's cheap
Oct 05 18:22:06 <Tomoe> this price includes shipping
Oct 05 18:22:18 <Tomoe> just so you know, if you haven't used dealextreme before
Oct 05 18:22:21 <Tomoe> awesome site =D
Oct 05 18:22:39 <johnx> I poke at it, but I never bought anything there yet
Oct 05 18:22:55 <Tomoe> I bought a few trinkets
Oct 05 18:23:07 <Tomoe> there's a clone of the SwissCard there
Oct 05 18:23:08 <johnx> I'd have to try before I buy though. It's not the cost so much as having one extra thing to store in this tiny apartment O_o
Oct 05 18:23:19 <Tomoe> http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.12901
Oct 05 18:23:23 <Tomoe> this is tiny too =P
Oct 05 18:23:34 <Tomoe> anyways the original version of this is 25$
Oct 05 18:23:52 <johnx> swss army knives do nothing for me. I carry a leatherman or I don't bother
Oct 05 18:24:12 <Tomoe> this is not a knife, technically =P
Oct 05 18:24:24 <Tomoe> this is for when you can't carry one with you 
Oct 05 18:24:57 <Tomoe> anyways, I just buy trinkets like that there
Oct 05 18:25:06 <Tomoe> doubt I'll go for the phones or anything like that
Oct 05 18:25:23 <johnx> I try to suppress my trinket buying ways
Oct 05 18:25:31 <Tomoe> hehehe
Oct 05 18:25:39 <Tomoe> me too
Oct 05 18:25:45 <Tomoe> but I let myself fail here and there
Oct 05 18:26:05 <Tomoe> johnx: btw, do you find that hairshop next to the yokohama station awesome?
Oct 05 18:26:16 <Tomoe> the one next to tgi fridays
Oct 05 18:26:44 <johnx> the UNIX?
Oct 05 18:27:22 <Tomoe> yeah
Oct 05 18:27:23 <Tomoe> =DDDD
Oct 05 18:27:28 <johnx> "hacker hair in 10 minutes or less!"
Oct 05 18:27:56 <johnx> yeah, for some reason non-geeks just can't properly understand how awesoem it is
Oct 05 18:28:22 <Tomoe> =)
Oct 05 18:29:18 <Tomoe> this keyboard would actually be very good for my zaurus
Oct 05 18:29:34 <Tomoe> I'd just need to hack a mini host plug into the cable
Oct 05 18:30:23 <johnx> it would be perfect for my n800. I really want one actually, and a little soft case to put both in
Oct 05 18:30:39 <Tomoe> do you hate me now?
Oct 05 18:31:03 <johnx> I saw it before actually :P
Oct 05 18:31:19 <johnx> I resisted buying it then and I'm still resisting :P
Oct 05 18:31:47 <johnx> I usually wait a week and if I still remember I want it by then, I must actually want it. if not, then I guess I didn't need it
Oct 05 18:32:06 <johnx> so next sunday I'll tell you I hate you :D
Oct 05 18:32:34 <Tomoe> then I'll wait a week before surreptitiously pasting that link again
Oct 05 18:32:39 <Tomoe> =D
Oct 05 18:33:29 <johnx> hmm, what was the syntax again? /ignore Tomoe ?
Oct 05 18:34:27 * Tomoe loads the proxieZZ
Oct 05 20:55:24 <Verty> where can I find the altboot.func (etc) prior to building (I wanna mod them)?
Oct 05 22:08:20 <Tomoe> damn
Oct 05 22:08:28 <Tomoe> johnx: here's a mouse to go with that keyboard
Oct 05 22:08:29 <Tomoe> http://www.handshoemouse.com/
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