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Oct 17 04:58:11 <saihung> howdy
Oct 17 07:27:18 <saihung> i've been playing with the latest opie nightly on my corgi
Oct 17 07:27:55 <johnx> I tried it on my akita. what do you think?
Oct 17 07:28:33 <saihung> i'm coming straight from cacko, so there are some idiosyncrasies
Oct 17 07:28:54 <saihung> the pcmcia monitor doesn't appear to do anything
Oct 17 07:29:04 <saihung> and the Documents tab seems to produce a mess if you enable
Oct 17 07:29:05 <saihung> it
Oct 17 07:30:28 <saihung> i've been trying to create a swap file on sd, and the dd process seems to just go on forever
Oct 17 07:31:32 <johnx> sd is probably mounted "sync"
Oct 17 07:31:49 <johnx> I don't know if cacko mounts it async or sync, though
Oct 17 07:32:10 <saihung> you're right, it's mounted sync
Oct 17 07:32:23 <saihung> if I change that in fstab I should expect something a bit better?
Oct 17 07:33:01 <johnx> should speed up I/O, but it means you have to unmount the card before removing it
Oct 17 07:33:21 <saihung> instead of just spitting it out
Oct 17 07:33:31 <johnx> yes
Oct 17 07:33:37 <johnx> speed always has a cost :)
Oct 17 07:34:04 <johnx> as for the other stuff. I think opie is just in the process of being cared for again. it went unmaintained for a while
Oct 17 07:34:21 <saihung> so this isn't the new shiny face of opie i'm seeing?
Oct 17 07:34:30 <saihung> it's still a damned sight prettier than cacko
Oct 17 07:35:10 <johnx> it's looked like this for 3+ years more or less, but I think a lot of the little broken things will start getting ironed out
Oct 17 07:35:57 <saihung> anyone working on an Illume image?
Oct 17 07:36:53 <saihung> the videos of Illume on the openmoko are pretty sweet.  and for a corgi the memory requirements are just right
Oct 17 07:36:55 <johnx> good question, I don't know...it shouldn't be difficult to build. most of e17 is already in angstrom
Oct 17 07:37:17 <johnx> it's just the WM though, you'd still need apps to go with it
Oct 17 07:37:21 <saihung> of course
Oct 17 07:37:33 <saihung> gpe is just so painfully slow
Oct 17 07:38:17 <johnx> I didn't really find that. maybe I've gotten used to it :)
Oct 17 07:38:30 <saihung> the corgi only runs at 200mhz
Oct 17 07:38:38 <saihung> because of the stupid px250 bug
Oct 17 07:38:38 <johnx> ah, right, corgi
Oct 17 07:38:50 <saihung> i hear that there's a better fix in the 5600 kernels
Oct 17 07:38:55 <johnx> I thought it ran at 400MHz but with no L2 cache or something
Oct 17 07:38:57 <saihung> but i don't know if that's been mainlined or what
Oct 17 07:39:10 <saihung> the writeback error makes the effective speed 200
Oct 17 07:39:16 <saihung> but it feels like running through pudding
Oct 17 07:39:21 <johnx> sadness :/
Oct 17 07:39:32 <johnx> I'm not a big fan of any of intel's xscale line anyways...
Oct 17 07:39:47 <saihung> i pre-ordered an openpandora
Oct 17 07:39:53 <johnx> me too
Oct 17 07:39:55 <saihung> so i guess this shouldn't be an annoyance for that much longer
Oct 17 07:40:09 <saihung> i may be the only person who ordered one who couldn't care less about the games
Oct 17 07:40:19 <johnx> probably not
Oct 17 07:40:36 <saihung> well no, maybe out of 4000 not the only one
Oct 17 07:40:48 <johnx> I admit I'm interested in the games, but mainly I'm really excited about decent surfing
Oct 17 07:41:08 <saihung> i use the zaurus to take notes
Oct 17 07:41:15 <saihung> email, and basic surfing
Oct 17 07:41:31 <saihung> though that's awfully painful on anything more complex than craigslist
Oct 17 07:41:44 <johnx> I've been taking notes on my n800, but the lack of keyboard is painful and the video problems are annoying
Oct 17 07:42:00 <saihung> i use an irda keyboard now
Oct 17 07:42:11 <saihung> but i suspect it'll be a USB one with the pandora
Oct 17 07:42:20 <johnx> BT should be fine too
Oct 17 07:42:36 <johnx> I'm usually writing notes to myself while standing on a commuter train though :/
Oct 17 07:42:41 <johnx> so no external keyboard for me
Oct 17 07:42:53 <saihung> i use it in class
Oct 17 07:45:12 <saihung> hmm
Oct 17 07:45:16 <saihung> pcmcia networking not working
Oct 17 07:49:05 <johnx> did you configure it then click the start/stop button?
Oct 17 07:49:14 <saihung> yep
Oct 17 07:49:19 <saihung> let me try a different connection
Oct 17 07:49:22 <saihung> might be this computer
Oct 17 07:51:56 <saihung> hmm
Oct 17 07:52:02 <saihung> can't stop the interface
Oct 17 07:52:08 <saihung> at least not from the gui
Oct 17 07:56:29 <saihung> ok, just something screwy with my mac's connection sharing
Oct 17 07:57:04 <johnx> ah, well that's good to hear
Oct 17 09:38:40 <roeles> does anyone have a console image with at76_usb.ko in it for me?
Oct 17 09:39:06 <roeles> most of the 2007.12 images have it, but they're not in the autobuild dir anymoer
Oct 17 09:40:19 <roeles> and... why was it removed in the first place?
Oct 17 15:00:50 <dcordes> johnx, how did you make 2.6.26 for akita in OE?
Oct 17 15:06:16 * dcordes spots linux-rp_2.6.26.bb
Oct 17 16:33:49 <thesing> !logs
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Oct 17 20:30:57 <mimecar> hi
Oct 17 20:52:52 <dcordes> mimecar, hi
Oct 17 20:53:05 <dcordes> can somebody help me getting mplayer with TV support built in for akita?
Oct 17 20:53:18 <mimecar> what's the error ?
Oct 17 20:53:26 <mimecar> TV on akita ?
Oct 17 21:08:31 <dcordes> mimecar, well not tv exactly, just a video caputre device
Oct 17 21:08:51 <dcordes> mimecar, "mplayer was built without tv support"
Oct 17 21:09:08 <mimecar> ok
Oct 17 22:21:16 <dcordes> any zaurus clamshell users present?
Oct 17 22:22:53 <Tomoe> I use a fleshlight, if that counts?
Oct 17 22:22:59 <Tomoe> =P
Oct 17 22:23:18 <Tomoe> dcordes: I'm one, but I'm on Cacko, not Angstrom
Oct 17 22:24:00 <dcordes> lol
Oct 17 22:24:16 <dcordes> isn't cacko obsolete?
Oct 17 22:24:31 <Tomoe> your mom is obsolete, you insensitive clod!
Oct 17 22:24:39 <Tomoe> *ducks*
Oct 17 22:24:53 <Tomoe> lol
Oct 17 22:25:02 <Tomoe> dcordes: japlang student, kinda forced to use it
Oct 17 22:25:17 <Tomoe> other options are lacking in that department
Oct 17 22:26:37 <dcordes> japlang, that's funny
Oct 17 22:27:27 <dcordes> what programs must you use in cacko for that purpose which you cannot find in OE?
Oct 17 23:04:39 <Tomoe> dcordes: japanese input is better, there's knquiz and kanjinirvana programs
Oct 17 23:04:50 <Tomoe> for practicing japanese writing
Oct 17 23:05:27 <Tomoe> I guess the two could run on oe tho
Oct 17 23:05:33 <Tomoe> AND
Oct 17 23:05:42 <Tomoe> the bigass dictionaries that come with the Z
Oct 17 23:05:45 <Tomoe> are encrypted
Oct 17 23:06:41 <Tomoe> and the dictionary app uses some sharp-specific lib for decryption
Oct 17 23:07:49 <Tomoe> also I pretty much don't use the Z for anything else these days so cacko/sharprom lackings dont bother me too much tbh
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