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Nov 05 13:40:02 <lumag> hi!
Nov 05 18:24:16 <Lost1nsp4c3> quick question hopefully you guys can help direct me in the right way...for me to be able to boot off my embedded device i need something like devfs to assign /dev/mtdblocks but From what I know devfs is deprecated....any special configs with udev to do this or do I have to stick with devfs?
Nov 05 21:35:14 <oliford> hi, is anyone in here dealing with the busybox suid root issue?
Nov 05 21:35:56 <oliford> I'm currently building x11-gpe-image and it ends up giving me an rootfs where su is symlinked to busybox but busybox isnt suid root.
Nov 05 21:36:38 <oliford> I understand why people don't want busybox suid root, but surely in that case it'd be better to leave su pointing to tinylogin (which is still present, maintained or not)
Nov 05 21:37:37 <oliford> As it is, building x11-gpe-image gives a mostly unusable angstrom distrib since clicking apps->other->root shell doesn't work
Nov 05 22:09:57 <prpplague> anyone using angstrom with a s3c2410 or s3c2440 based device?
Nov 05 22:12:04 <Tomoe> I'm using it with a p3n1ss based device
Nov 05 22:21:38 <prpplague> Tomoe: never heard of that SoC, that an ARM SoC?
Nov 05 22:31:15 <Tomoe> prpplague: sorry, it was a joke, I thought it'd be obvious
Nov 05 22:32:00 <prpplague> Tomoe: ahh, i deal with so many part numbers, you can't recognize them all
Nov 05 22:32:55 <Tomoe> prpplague: it's a part, sort of, but it's not a part number =))
Nov 05 22:37:22 <prpplague> is there an angstrom build for the rx3715?
Nov 05 22:38:20 <prpplague> from what i'm reading in some of the mailing lists, there isn't one
Nov 05 22:39:09 <prpplague> Tomoe: is it usually this quiet in here?
Nov 05 22:39:26 <Tomoe> prpplague: haven't you heard, Zaurus is dead!
Nov 05 22:39:28 <Tomoe> =(
Nov 05 22:39:34 <Tomoe> prpplague: yeah
Nov 05 22:39:47 <Tomoe> johnx might be able to help you
Nov 05 22:40:11 <Tomoe> he's the resident hax0r
Nov 05 22:40:23 <prpplague> Tomoe: tbh, i thought the zaurus was dead some time ago, not sure how that effects angstrom though
Nov 05 22:40:23 <Tomoe> but he's probably fast asleep now, early morning in japan
Nov 05 22:40:34 <prpplague> ahh
Nov 05 22:41:41 <Tomoe> prpplague: #zaurus is even deader =)
Nov 05 22:41:45 <Tomoe> anyways
Nov 05 22:41:51 <Tomoe> idle around, somebody will drop by
Nov 05 22:42:14 <prpplague> i got the impression that as a distro, angstrom was still being actively developed
Nov 05 22:42:17 <prpplague> is that not the case?
Nov 05 22:42:43 <Tomoe> of course it is
Nov 05 22:43:00 <Tomoe> but it's a small community
Nov 05 22:43:08 <Sketch> angstrom is not zaurus specific
Nov 05 22:43:42 <Sketch> so zaurus death wont have much effect on it overall
Nov 05 22:44:17 <Tomoe> gah, I was just kidding
Nov 05 22:45:40 <prpplague> Sketch: there very many folks who actively developing angstrom who are open to bounties/free hardware ?
Nov 05 22:46:40 <Sketch> dunno, there are probably a few
Nov 05 22:47:25 <Sketch> i really havent been keeping up wiith angstrom much lately, just lurking here
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Nov 05 22:49:00 <Tomoe> your typical Zaurus user: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAi8yDv4sJk
Nov 05 22:49:12 * prpplague looks
Nov 05 22:49:37 <Sketch> mailing list would probably be a good place to start offerijg
Nov 05 22:49:51 * prpplague guesses that Tomoe is the channel jokester
Nov 05 22:50:21 <Tomoe> I'm pretty much the channel everything, it being dead and all 
Nov 05 22:50:22 <Tomoe> =P
Nov 05 22:50:27 <prpplague> Sketch: yea, just shopping at the momment, i normally do all the distro bits but i'm short on time
Nov 05 23:14:04 <prpplague> if anyone is interested in doing angstrom dev for an industrial pda in exchange for free hardware give me a shout either on irc or at danders at amltd.com
Nov 05 23:14:11 <prpplague> http://www.elinux.org/M8050
Nov 05 23:22:27 <Tomoe> good luck prpplague!
Nov 05 23:24:25 <prpplague> Tomoe: ??
Nov 05 23:24:49 <Tomoe> prpplague: lol
Nov 05 23:25:06 <Tomoe> no hidden message there, just wishing you luck with this =P
Nov 05 23:25:40 <Tomoe> johnx_: hy!
Nov 05 23:25:45 <prpplague> Tomoe: no real luck needed, just time
Nov 05 23:26:03 <Tomoe> you said you're short on time =)
Nov 05 23:26:50 <prpplague> Tomoe: yes i am, but either way, i have to get it done, just be nicer if i can find some extra help
Nov 05 23:27:14 <Tomoe> and good luck with that is what I was saying =)
Nov 05 23:27:36 <prpplague> Tomoe: hehe, thanks, we just finish our pre-production testing
Nov 05 23:27:46 <johnx_> what kind of stuff do you need to accomplish? (not that I have time either :( )
Nov 05 23:27:48 <prpplague> Tomoe: go for mass production in 2 weeks
Nov 05 23:28:16 <Tomoe> johnx_: industrial pda, apparently
Nov 05 23:28:19 <Tomoe> http://www.elinux.org/M8050
Nov 05 23:28:26 <Tomoe> if you want one, port angstrom to it!
Nov 05 23:28:28 <Tomoe> =)
Nov 05 23:28:37 <Tomoe> prpplague: or is it 'if you want 5'?
Nov 05 23:28:40 <Tomoe> =))
Nov 05 23:31:56 <johnx_> prpplague, what work needs to be finished on angstrom for it?
Nov 05 23:33:18 <Tomoe> ooooh someone is interested now
Nov 05 23:33:20 <Tomoe> =)
Nov 05 23:33:41 <prpplague> Tomoe: hehe, no we are talking 20k units
Nov 05 23:34:30 <prpplague> johnx_: as i understand it very little needs to be done, the hardware is basically identical to the GTA-02 
Nov 05 23:34:58 <Tomoe> prpplague: I was talking about the 'free hardware for person who ports it' offer
Nov 05 23:35:01 <prpplague> i've already got a poky and gentoo builds complete, but i have a customer who asked for angstrom
Nov 05 23:36:09 <prpplague> Tomoe: they'd get a M8050 of course, plus probably two or three development boards of various types
Nov 05 23:36:52 <Tomoe> johnx_ is hooked!
Nov 05 23:37:30 <prpplague> johnx_: just need the basic pda style angstrom, similiar to what would go on a standard ipaq
Nov 05 23:38:21 <prpplague> bbiaf
Nov 05 23:41:27 <johnx_> hmm
Nov 06 00:11:23 <prpplague> johnx_: anyway, like i said, should be a pretty standard angstrom base, the kernel is complete, so just need the userland stuff
Nov 06 00:11:51 <prpplague> johnx_: already got a complete poky and gentoo build, just that we have a customer that asked for angstrom
Nov 06 00:18:37 <Tomoe> prpplague: I hope you tried the mailing list too
Nov 06 00:22:17 <prpplague> Tomoe: not as of yet, just doing research on it at the momment
Nov 06 00:22:46 <johnx_> you'll definitely get better response from the mailing lists
Nov 06 00:22:54 <johnx_> devs are only rarely on this channel
Nov 06 00:23:18 <prpplague> ahh
Nov 06 00:23:43 <prpplague> i'll talk to koen in the morning and see if he can recommend someone
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