**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Nov 07 02:59:57 2008 Nov 07 09:11:45 hi Nov 07 09:11:57 anyone online now? Nov 07 09:12:10 im installing angstrom and have a question Nov 07 09:12:32 i know how to use ramdisk rescue Nov 07 09:12:47 and im trying to install angstrom with it, just like familiar Nov 07 09:12:50 on my hx4700 Nov 07 09:13:11 so i made the directory structure linux/rescue/image Nov 07 09:13:44 and put the angstrom file, new opie for angstrom file and new kernel file where they belong Nov 07 09:14:20 but when installing, ramdisk boots fine, but then says opie file does not have a valid rootfs structure Nov 07 09:14:38 i had a look in the file, and the directories are very different to familiar Nov 07 09:14:40 so Nov 07 09:14:41 im wondering Nov 07 09:15:02 if someone has a different ramdisk version Nov 07 09:15:17 or another solution to install angstrom to my SD card Nov 07 09:16:24 i am trying to install the current angstrom distro with its new kernel with the OLD familiar opie Nov 07 09:16:32 it looks like its working Nov 07 09:16:45 can you just mix and match like that with linux? Nov 07 09:17:21 is anybody there? Nov 07 09:26:43 Psibolt: use your psibolt attack to discover that! Nov 07 09:29:47 lol Nov 07 09:29:50 im going crazy Nov 07 09:29:56 have been awake 24 hours Nov 07 09:30:02 and just HAVE to succeed Nov 07 09:30:14 been reading so much my eyes are melting and my brain is heating the room Nov 07 09:30:19 can noone help please? Nov 07 16:09:12 Anybody got experience building kernels that boot off mtd devices? Nov 07 16:30:04 anybody in here alive? Nov 07 16:31:20 still alive :P Nov 07 16:31:22 no new ideas though Nov 07 16:37:33 from what i read Nov 07 16:37:51 which is confusing a unknown-block(0,0) means it's not seeing any device Nov 07 16:38:06 yet the MTD is detecting the correct Nand And is partitioning it correctly Nov 07 16:44:16 i'm baffled i turn on debuging to level 3 Nov 07 16:44:37 I can see mtd giving out device 3 to Root Nov 07 16:44:56 yet i still get the unknown-block(0,0) leading me to conclude it's not seeing any /dev/mtdblock3 Nov 07 16:45:13 yet it recognizes the flash name and size 0xec75 etc etc Nov 07 16:45:17 this is giving me a headach Nov 07 16:45:40 I could believe that Nov 07 16:47:43 this makes no god damn sense Nov 07 16:48:20 i'm tempted to turn every god damn mtd and nand related stuff to be built in kernel Nov 07 16:49:31 might want to check the kernel config for something else that boots from mtdblock Nov 07 16:49:41 preferably something based on the same chip Nov 07 16:52:49 checking Nov 07 16:52:53 s3c2410_defconfig Nov 07 16:52:57 from the kernel i have on my box Nov 07 16:54:42 omg Nov 07 16:55:43 OMG Nov 07 16:56:11 * LostInspace slaps his own face Nov 07 16:57:13 i just notiiced sysfs wasn't enabled Nov 07 16:58:46 you suck Nov 07 16:58:48 =P Nov 07 16:59:01 Tomoe, how very kind of you Nov 07 17:02:36 Tomoe, now go back under your bridge. :P Nov 07 17:04:25 Hello, I currently have a set top box x86, with 32 meg ram and 500 meg hard disk. I was wondering if it is possible to boot angstrom on this box? Where would I begin (i read the wiki and faqs) but the supported devices bit threw me off. Nov 07 17:04:54 The box currently runs a linux kernel Nov 07 17:05:29 should be possible Nov 07 17:06:34 PatrickBL: first step is to figure out how to get administrative privileges on it if you can't do that already Nov 07 17:06:34 (i just switched nicknames). where would i begin? i have the ability to load my own kernel onto the box and full access Nov 07 17:06:38 if there isn't a customized image already, you might need to do a little hacking them compile it with openembedded Nov 07 17:06:39 ok Nov 07 17:07:34 there is an image already, but i have no specs on it what so ever, its a magic kernel for all i know. Which is why i'd like to put something I can build/modify on it Nov 07 17:08:11 I mean, if there isn't already an angstrom image available Nov 07 17:08:17 the box has telnetd running on it so i can get in with root access and poke around and install software Nov 07 17:08:31 that reminds me Nov 07 17:08:33 its a vip 1200, didn't seem like there was an image available in the devices Nov 07 17:09:19 johnx: wyse s90 terminal on japanese yahoo auctions, 400mhz, 256ram 512rom Nov 07 17:09:19 ah, ok, then you will probably want to first get OpenEmbedded installed so you can compile software Nov 07 17:09:24 2k yen Nov 07 17:09:35 (i'm very new to embedded linux systems) i saw openembedded and then further angstrom and it seems like the best move Nov 07 17:10:04 do you have much experience with linux? Nov 07 17:10:18 ya, well atleast more than average but i'm no expert Nov 07 17:10:53 that's good enough :) Nov 07 17:10:55 i have fedora core 9 as my dev environment (fedora is necessary to run the server which pushes the software to the box) Nov 07 17:11:14 hit the getting started guide for OpenEmbedded, then checkout the instructions for adding a new machine Nov 07 17:11:20 i have all the pre reqs installed for openembedded, and was going to finish seting up the rest Nov 07 17:11:24 Tomoe, looking... Nov 07 17:11:42 ya i got that far, but wanted to make sure it was possible before i spent another day setting up another environment ;) Nov 07 17:11:51 johnx: http://page21.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/j11804473 Nov 07 17:13:01 let me see if i understand: after openembedded is installed after open embedded is installed, I need to compile an image (like angstrom?) Nov 07 17:13:28 Tomoe, looks like something I used to work on at my old job Nov 07 17:13:33 PatrickBL, correct Nov 07 17:13:46 the image i send over now is just a regular .bin file sent to the boot loader, will the openembedded image be .bin aswell? Nov 07 17:13:54 should i be able to just swap the image? Nov 07 17:14:13 johnx: was looking for something for a friend when I stumbled upon it Nov 07 17:14:30 i would figure that the image would need to run all the specific hardware on the box, which is where i start to lose scope Nov 07 17:14:49 so how would an angstrom image be able to cope with the specifics of the box? Nov 07 17:15:09 well, just like compiling any kernel, you have to configure it yourself Nov 07 17:15:13 PatrickBL: driver is a driver, you'd just need to figure out which ones you need Nov 07 17:15:42 since it's x86 you don't really need to use a cross compiling environment to build the kernel Nov 07 17:15:52 ok that makes sense, so i need to configure a bootstrap myself which loads the drivers then loads the environment? Nov 07 17:16:43 so what do i need to build the kernel? the cross compiling bit is a new term for me Nov 07 17:16:57 this is lovely, if only it weren't 64M ram only: http://www.ovislink.com/newovislink/Products/Wireless/X-Pilot/X-Pilot.asp Nov 07 17:17:05 PatrickBL, that's fine, because you don't need to worry about it Nov 07 17:17:09 :) Nov 07 17:17:24 so what do i need to do to put a new kernel on the box? Nov 07 17:18:13 I really don't know Nov 07 17:18:17 it's different for every device Nov 07 17:18:31 damn, i guess i'm back to square one. angstrom isn't really what i need is it? Nov 07 17:18:34 but you probably don't need angstrom or openembedded if all you want to do is replace the kernel Nov 07 17:18:45 ya thats what i'm concluding Nov 07 17:18:54 you said you can replace the kernel, right? Nov 07 17:19:12 is it stored in flash memory? or is it on the hard drive? Nov 07 17:19:20 ya, i'm fairly certain, i can see where the kernel is sent over via the server Nov 07 17:19:33 (neither , its sent via a special tv channel haha) Nov 07 17:19:40 O_o Nov 07 17:19:43 hm Nov 07 17:20:03 its a proprietary server which uses metatvchannels to send signals to settopboxes Nov 07 17:20:10 angstrom is not a silver bullet that will magically make your machine less strange :) Nov 07 17:20:10 iptv Nov 07 17:20:17 ya i see that Nov 07 17:20:20 yeah Nov 07 17:20:33 the box isn't even that strange, i'm starting to think i probably can leave the kernel thats there Nov 07 17:20:41 in soviet russia, angstrom installs you! Nov 07 17:20:49 PatrickBL: can you give us the full name of the box Nov 07 17:20:50 in soviet russia tv watches u Nov 07 17:20:55 you said vip 1200? Nov 07 17:21:06 vip1200 (its a motorola) product Nov 07 17:21:22 ok Nov 07 17:21:29 and why would you want to change the kernel? Nov 07 17:21:31 same box used (essentially) for the ATT uverse iptv product Nov 07 17:21:42 angstrom is just a pretty ordinary distribution for small systems. The real benefit is being able to use openembedded to build software for it on a fast machine Nov 07 17:22:09 i'm investigating the full capability of the box for a local telecom, they currently (insanely) spent money to have wince put on their boxes and i'm trying to figure out ohow to change the kernel Nov 07 17:23:18 the box regularly runs linux, (which i have on it now). i want to see if i can switch it to any kernel i like (i know wince runs because they stupidly chose it already -> which is why i'm trying to fix it for them) Nov 07 17:23:37 why are you doing that Nov 07 17:24:16 anyway i'm no embedded developer, i write iptv applications for browsers, which the company wants to pay me to do. i need to see if i can get a browser running on their box Nov 07 17:24:35 aaah, ok, starting to get the picture :) Nov 07 17:24:42 ya its blurry Nov 07 17:25:00 well it's displaying on a TV, what do you expect :D Nov 07 17:25:07 exactly Nov 07 17:25:17 but honestly, 32MB is pretty thin for most modern browsers Nov 07 17:25:28 its sort of funny, this company i'm working for paid for a piece of crap middleware which only displays tv Nov 07 17:25:55 johnx: the specs say it's 32mb flash and 128mb ram Nov 07 17:26:28 good point, i've run ds on the box through telnet and i don't see any sign of 128 mb lol Nov 07 17:26:41 lol Nov 07 17:26:49 good luck then! Nov 07 17:26:54 you're gonna need it! Nov 07 17:26:57 =P Nov 07 17:27:17 maybe opie+konqueror-embedded. it needs to be cleaned up a little bit though Nov 07 17:28:06 so in conclusion i've got this mystery box with an unknown amount of ram (i got it to run minimo though) Nov 07 17:28:39 minimo is no longer supported and it has been a rough ride workign with it. i saw opie and konqueror but didn't know where to start Nov 07 17:29:00 first figure out how much RAM you have to play with Nov 07 17:29:11 that really dictates your course of action Nov 07 17:29:13 gimmie a minut, i'll tellnet in Nov 07 17:29:18 sure :) Nov 07 17:29:33 telnet? Nov 07 17:29:35 anyone know the command to see? Nov 07 17:29:40 ssh hopefully Nov 07 17:29:45 haha nope Nov 07 17:29:49 free Nov 07 17:29:51 free Nov 07 17:30:08 telnet = clear text ....not very secure unless in your home network lol Nov 07 17:30:10 "bash command not avaialbel" Nov 07 17:30:20 cat /proc/meminfo Nov 07 17:30:26 haha i am workign from a home network and i know, but it came on the box by default believe it or not Nov 07 17:30:27 cat /proc/meminfo Nov 07 17:30:57 johnx, damn ur quicker then me =P Nov 07 17:30:58 can i paste into here? Nov 07 17:31:08 ppl sometime mind when u paste in irc Nov 07 17:31:16 PatrickBL, cat /proc/meminfo | grep MemTotal Nov 07 17:31:21 thanks Nov 07 17:31:24 pastebin.com would be best for more than 4 lines Nov 07 17:31:42 115764 Nov 07 17:31:44 PatrickBL, all we need is memtotal anyways Nov 07 17:31:45 kb Nov 07 17:31:46 thats great Nov 07 17:32:00 PatrickBL, onboard video card? Nov 07 17:32:15 it's a geode or via, right? Nov 07 17:32:16 i'd assume because it runs tv and mpeg4 Nov 07 17:32:19 anyway for me to tell? Nov 07 17:32:33 geode/via? Nov 07 17:32:35 i'm pretty sure Nov 07 17:32:39 since you have a wacky ram count Nov 07 17:32:48 usualy that is due to onboard video card sharing your ram Nov 07 17:32:52 it would make sense, i can check what devs are there Nov 07 17:32:59 geode is AMD's embedded x86 processor, via makes their own low power x86 processors Nov 07 17:33:02 it would need a video card Nov 07 17:33:16 makes sense, its x86 Nov 07 17:33:39 mmmmm sysfs in still no go (0,0) Nov 07 17:33:40 argg Nov 07 17:33:42 it runs video perfectly and quickly and its an imbedded system, we can safely assum a vid card Nov 07 17:34:25 anyways, that's enough RAM for firefox if you tweak some settings and run nothing but an x server and a browser Nov 07 17:34:31 [18:31] < PatrickBL> | 115764 Nov 07 17:34:31 so i've got about 100 megs of ram to work with. i should be able to run firefox right? Nov 07 17:34:34 itolduso Nov 07 17:34:38 ! Nov 07 17:34:47 * Tomoe sulks Nov 07 17:34:50 haha Nov 07 17:34:54 gloating more like it Nov 07 17:34:57 * Tomoe pouts Nov 07 17:35:17 kids these days...sheeesh Nov 07 17:35:22 yeah Nov 07 17:35:27 kids these days Nov 07 17:35:39 forgetting to enable sysfs and stuf Nov 07 17:35:41 its runs minimo fine, but i need plugin support. flash would be fantastic on the tv. watch youtube/free tv shows etc Nov 07 17:35:42 yeah! all of you get off my lawn Nov 07 17:35:46 *uff Nov 07 17:36:02 while you're telnetted in, why not run cat /proc/cpuinfo Nov 07 17:36:17 .... Nov 07 17:36:36 cpu model mips 4KE Nov 07 17:36:49 uhm...not x86, huh? Nov 07 17:36:58 thats what i just realized Nov 07 17:37:14 i was told x86 by the fellow who sent it over Nov 07 17:37:18 the amount of effort you're about to put in just increased :) Nov 07 17:37:23 TRIFOLD Nov 07 17:37:25 ya no kidding Nov 07 17:37:55 well at least i'm learning Nov 07 17:37:56 * Tomoe bails out Nov 07 17:37:57 learning life sucks Nov 07 17:38:00 the good news is now you have a *great* reason to use openembedded and angstrom Nov 07 17:38:05 haha Nov 07 17:38:08 great... Nov 07 17:38:10 later Tomoe Nov 07 17:38:17 thanks tomoe Nov 07 17:38:33 sure Nov 07 17:38:38 but MIPS I refuse to deal with! Nov 07 17:38:46 * Tomoe rides away into sunset Nov 07 17:38:50 so i've got a box with 110 megs of ram, and MIPS, what do i do? get a lot of rope and a chair? Nov 07 17:39:05 openembedded will give you enough rope :D Nov 07 17:39:09 also, you need to learn about cross compiling now Nov 07 17:39:16 great Nov 07 17:39:29 so thats how minimo was compiled i can guess right? Nov 07 17:39:44 it just means compiling programs for a processor different than the one you're compiling on Nov 07 17:39:49 i have a package of minimo that came with the box and my own package i built from source. theres works mine doesn't Nov 07 17:39:58 ahh that makes sense Nov 07 17:40:13 you probably compiled for x86 on your x86 desktop Nov 07 17:40:18 ya i did Nov 07 17:40:28 i followed the x86 build instructions because i was told the box was x86 Nov 07 17:40:37 now i need to cross compile it for mips and try again right? Nov 07 17:40:39 you need a cross compiling setup. openembedded is one of the better choices Nov 07 17:41:07 ok thats what i will do, the instructions for fedora seem like crap, should i set up a ubuntu box for this? Nov 07 17:41:25 hmm? which instructions are you following? Nov 07 17:41:31 it should be pretty distro agnostic Nov 07 17:41:52 the getting started has instructions for all sorts of distro's Nov 07 17:42:13 http://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/OEandYourDistro Nov 07 17:42:45 theres no instructions for fedora core 9, which i run but i have everything installed for 7 Nov 07 17:43:10 ok, so you have the prereqs, go back to getting started and follow that Nov 07 17:43:29 ok will do, thanks for your help. mind if i come back if i get stuck? Nov 07 17:43:47 sure. #openembedded is also worth a look Nov 07 17:44:07 thanks Nov 07 17:49:42 PatrickBL, best of luck with all that =) Nov 07 17:50:15 lots of people starting big projects lately O_o Nov 07 17:52:46 lol Nov 07 17:53:27 winters coming up Nov 07 17:53:46 people firing up all the spare gadgets to stay warm? :D Nov 07 17:53:52 yeahhhhhh Nov 07 17:54:01 hey did we get rid of the mips guy? Nov 07 17:54:06 *peers in* Nov 07 17:54:08 no actualy alot of people want projects to do during the winter since most people stay indoors Nov 07 17:54:29 Tomoe, nope. he's just off to try his luck with openembedded Nov 07 17:54:51 that's an interesting theory johnx Nov 07 17:55:09 johnx: just kiddin' =) Nov 07 17:55:27 valhalla, I thought that was why everyone had more than one computer? Nov 07 17:55:54 * johnx gives his zaurus some work to do so it gives off a little more heat Nov 07 17:57:38 johnx, but typical devices with oe only give little heat Nov 07 17:57:47 that's why I have lots Nov 07 17:57:59 and why I keep them all busy doing native compiles of gtk+ Nov 07 17:58:39 lol Nov 07 17:58:58 johnx: why don't you get a quad PIV instead Nov 07 17:59:20 ahaha...I actually have a P4 laptop Nov 07 17:59:30 it goes into thermal shutdown if I don't underclock it Nov 07 18:00:11 you should go to the computers->servers part of the yahoo auctions Nov 07 18:00:12 lol Nov 07 18:00:24 8cpu servers the size of a fridge Nov 07 18:00:33 for 2-3 kyen Nov 07 18:01:04 the PIV is a good example of evolution in action Nov 07 18:01:07 if I had a space the size of a proper fridge in my apartment...then I would own a proper fridge :P Nov 07 18:01:15 it was a bad mutation, and it's family line has since died off ;) Nov 07 18:01:34 but until then it terrorized the landscape, eating children whole Nov 07 18:01:50 sounds about right Nov 07 18:05:20 vivid imagination Nov 07 18:08:00 fun to read! Nov 07 18:08:42 we aim to please :D Nov 07 18:09:23 lol Nov 07 18:10:09 ah nice Nov 07 18:11:04 stillll slowly getting nowhere! Nov 07 18:11:13 pandora: # Dimensions: 140x83x27mm[8](5.51x3.27x1.06 in) Nov 07 18:11:36 with a 10" screen, it's probably twice the size of that Nov 07 18:11:41 er, wrong #, heh Nov 07 18:11:57 hy Sketch! Nov 07 18:12:00 =P Nov 07 18:12:13 hehe Nov 07 18:12:18 confusing my zaurus-related channels ;) Nov 07 18:12:38 hehehe Nov 07 18:18:00 w00t Nov 07 18:18:31 it lives? Nov 07 18:18:45 unknown-block(31,3) finaly Nov 07 18:18:50 but that's cause i forgot rootfstype Nov 07 18:18:59 when i rewrote the cmdline Nov 07 18:19:05 what was the trick? Nov 07 18:19:31 i have no clue to what was wrong with my minimalist config Nov 07 18:20:00 I found a nice s3c2410 config that seems to work Nov 07 18:20:04 and gonna brake it down from there Nov 07 18:21:02 it'll probably be something you didn't even think of. configuring a kernel these days actually seems harder than it was 10 years ago Nov 07 18:21:22 i miss the 2.0 and 2.2 days Nov 07 18:21:26 /dev/cua0 instead Nov 07 18:21:32 etc etc Nov 07 18:21:46 hello again, quick question that may seem stupid. in my local.conf file i am supposed to specify my target machine. what could this be? the processor? or the box name iself or something MIPS based? Nov 07 18:22:09 Hi! Anybody here has had success booting thesing's angstrom images for collie? Nov 07 18:22:27 nihondario, yup. works pretty good Nov 07 18:22:33 system type : Sigma Designs TangoX Nov 07 18:22:35 processor : 0 Nov 07 18:22:36 cpu model : MIPS 4KEc V6.9 Nov 07 18:22:45 PatrickBL, look in openembedded/conf/machine Nov 07 18:22:49 i did Nov 07 18:22:56 but im not sure what i'm looking for Nov 07 18:23:07 johnx: all I got is init: getty respawning too fast after a while Nov 07 18:23:13 something with the same chip family is a good start Nov 07 18:23:15 i see all the machines listed there, how cna i know which is the right target? Nov 07 18:23:25 PatrickBL, you'll need to write your own kernel config though Nov 07 18:23:44 sigh Nov 07 18:24:04 that as difficult and scary as it sounds? Nov 07 18:24:22 its fun Nov 07 18:24:26 excitment! Nov 07 18:24:27 there's likely something that's pretty close Nov 07 18:24:40 how can i search for something similar? Nov 07 18:24:51 grep -i mips * Nov 07 18:24:55 cool Nov 07 18:24:55 in that directory Nov 07 18:25:13 hummm Nov 07 18:25:18 * johnx wishes he still had access to his OE build box Nov 07 18:25:32 my OE build box is my desktop at work right now lol Nov 07 18:26:03 mine was my friend's server in Canada. Then it got stolen. O_o Nov 07 18:26:10 so I'm between build machines Nov 07 18:26:59 that sucks Nov 07 18:27:09 ok there are a few with target_cc_arch = "-march=mips32" Nov 07 18:27:38 so try and see if one of those machines is similar to yours Nov 07 18:27:39 so should i just pick one, and try to somehow make my own with it as a guide? Nov 07 18:27:47 will do Nov 07 18:28:25 ok well it doesn't live but it's a step further Nov 07 18:28:47 undead? lurching around hungering for brains? Nov 07 18:29:14 mtd read ecc error Nov 07 18:29:28 fun fun and more fun Nov 07 18:29:41 some ecc errors are normal Nov 07 18:29:57 yeah but euhm Nov 07 18:30:07 i doubt what scrolled down the screen was normal Nov 07 18:30:10 there is more Nov 07 18:30:12 and more and more Nov 07 18:30:13 lol Nov 07 18:30:28 ah, it's mounting / ? Nov 07 18:30:43 it shows a ton on the akita as well Nov 07 18:30:57 hum kernel panic at the end Nov 07 18:31:00 johnx: about collie's angstrom: Do you remember when did you tested it... that is, if you used the current http://www.linuxtogo.org/~thesing/ tar.gz (29-sept) or an older one? Did you had to edit the inittab? Nov 07 18:31:22 mind you from a no init found...but the init=/bin/sh for now so that's not very normal Nov 07 18:31:24 it should have it Nov 07 18:32:04 nihondario, that's the one I tried. I didn't edit anything Nov 07 18:32:24 nihondario, can you try putting your sd card in a card reader and running fsck on it? Nov 07 18:32:45 LostInspace, that means it mounted / though! huge progress Nov 07 18:34:12 johnx, I just did it (well, I fsck'd it in a tosa zurus twith sharprom) and there is no difference :( Nov 07 18:34:30 can you try a different sd card? Nov 07 18:35:18 anyways, I need to catch some sleep. please talk amongst yourselves :) Nov 07 18:35:19 johnx: Today no, but I can manage to get other next week. I'll try that. Thanks. Nov 07 18:36:04 sounds good. good luck Nov 07 18:36:05 johnx, yeah but wayyyyyyyyyy 2 many ecc errors and what nots Nov 07 18:36:42 LostInspace, I'm really not sure that's a problem. the akita kernel spams tons of scary stuff on every mount Nov 07 18:36:48 at least like you said i'm one step closer lol Nov 07 18:36:53 yea but this is like Nov 07 18:36:54 nasty Nov 07 18:37:00 wait let me Nov 07 18:38:31 Thanks for the support. Good night! :) Nov 07 18:38:35 ok i'm lost. is there instructions somewhere to make a machine specific conf file? Nov 07 18:39:43 i guess the real problem is i don't know how to tell if one of the machines in the /conf file are similar enough to mine to use Nov 07 18:40:07 you need to find out about what machines share a similar chipset to yours Nov 07 18:40:45 also, you should look at the kernel configuration for the machines listed Nov 07 18:40:47 right, i grepped for mips, found a few. i opened the files but didn't see a reference to a chipset in the file Nov 07 18:41:08 * nihondario also goes to sleep Nov 07 18:41:54 johnx, http://pastebin.com/m7fb037f7 Nov 07 18:41:59 that seems excessive to me Nov 07 18:42:01 so you know they use MIPs. time to hit google and get more info about them. you'll also need some info about your machine. Use all the resources you can. Nov 07 18:42:05 there is a reference to the kernel, for example "linux-xxs1500" Nov 07 18:42:18 my previous 2.4.x kernel wasn't this noisy lol so maybe it's debug options Nov 07 18:42:27 alright, back to google. thanks for your help Nov 07 18:42:34 but still seems like somethings wrong to me Nov 07 18:42:35 PatrickBL, ok, and the kernel recipes are stored in openembedded/packages/linux Nov 07 18:42:52 thanks Nov 07 18:42:53 LostInspace, yeah what worries me are the I/O errors Nov 07 18:43:03 johnx, mtd debug ain't even set Nov 07 18:43:06 thats just wrong Nov 07 18:43:19 the magic bitmask bit is probably normal Nov 07 18:43:45 actualy Nov 07 18:43:50 i paste a log of terminal Nov 07 18:44:12 my last log starts at page 209 Nov 07 18:44:32 anyways, good luck. I really need to get to sleep now though Nov 07 18:44:51 johnx, have a nice nite Nov 07 18:45:21 thanks :) Nov 07 19:14:02 hi Nov 07 19:14:25 is anybody active please? Nov 07 19:14:35 i a a newbie Nov 07 19:14:42 i have managed to install angstrom with opie Nov 07 19:15:01 and i am trying to install a media player Nov 07 19:15:14 i have looked in the repositories and there is none Nov 07 19:15:30 in the package admin i mean Nov 07 19:15:45 but i have seen in google that there are media players for opie Nov 07 19:15:52 can someone help please? Nov 07 19:21:25 media player? Nov 07 19:21:46 mplayer? Nov 07 19:22:15 hi Nov 07 19:22:17 um Nov 07 19:22:18 well Nov 07 19:22:21 i have mplayer in the list Nov 07 19:22:36 but i gives an error when installing the package Nov 07 19:22:44 but here: Nov 07 19:22:46 http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/?section=opie Nov 07 19:23:15 it lists opie-mediaplayer1-core Nov 07 19:23:55 damn this kebab was GOOD Nov 07 19:24:37 jealous :P Nov 07 19:25:03 ur the one that wanted my to install angstrom with psi power ;) Nov 07 19:25:55 Tomoe is a bit special =) Nov 07 19:26:05 Psibolt, what kinda erors do you get? Nov 07 19:26:13 error 22 Nov 07 19:26:17 i will do it again Nov 07 19:26:21 to give u the text Nov 07 19:29:17 Psibolt: well, you ARE Psibolt Nov 07 19:29:32 heh Nov 07 19:29:54 im starting to really like you. maybe ill let u hold a psibolt soon :) Nov 07 19:30:09 well Nov 07 19:30:20 this is the best innuendo I've read in the last few days Nov 07 19:30:26 *applause* Nov 07 19:30:32 hehe Nov 07 19:30:34 appologies Nov 07 19:30:42 i dont know what innuendo is Nov 07 19:30:46 except queen :P Nov 07 19:31:03 [20:30] <+ ^> | [1/7] Anything that gives off a wrong idea, or sick minded thought Nov 07 19:31:20 haha Nov 07 19:31:31 "I'll let you hold a psibolt soon" Nov 07 19:31:33 u managed to missinterpret holding my psibolt? Nov 07 19:31:36 :> Nov 07 19:31:37 lol Nov 07 19:31:54 lostinspace Nov 07 19:32:04 thank you very much, today is Xfiles day Nov 07 19:32:09 i rebooted Nov 07 19:32:15 retried the mplayer package Nov 07 19:32:17 and voila Nov 07 19:32:20 it works Nov 07 19:32:27 * Tomoe whistles the xfiles melody Nov 07 19:32:32 TI RU RI RU TI RU RI RU Nov 07 19:32:43 Psibolt, =) Nov 07 19:33:37 no mediaplayer installed though sniff Nov 07 19:34:00 can i use the console to install packages that are not in my package manager? Nov 07 19:34:11 tomoe? Nov 07 19:34:21 Psibolt: yes Nov 07 19:34:38 I presume you have them on a local media? Nov 07 19:34:47 yes Nov 07 19:35:10 how can i know if they are compatible? Nov 07 19:36:39 install, and, if your device bricks, they are not compatible Nov 07 19:36:43 easy! Nov 07 19:36:59 =P Nov 07 19:37:09 LOL Nov 07 19:37:18 come on Nov 07 19:37:30 if ur nice u can install my package ;) Nov 07 19:37:42 lame Nov 07 19:37:43 =P Nov 07 19:37:47 heh Nov 07 19:37:51 just in a good mood Nov 07 19:37:56 lol Nov 07 19:37:58 well Nov 07 19:38:31 I wouldn't know how you can check for it Nov 07 19:38:50 ok Nov 07 19:38:56 so it gets complicated Nov 07 19:40:11 i installed tons of stuff with ipkg from local media Nov 07 19:40:18 mind you if it's not for your machine Nov 07 19:40:25 it might f00bar up your dev Nov 07 19:40:36 ouch Nov 07 19:40:39 dont want that Nov 07 19:40:46 it was hard enough to set it up Nov 07 19:41:02 mind you your device won't brick unless you are playing with it's booting options Nov 07 19:41:09 that's where jtag comme into play Nov 07 19:41:19 only when you need to jtag your machine and you can't is it ever bricked! Nov 07 19:41:29 jewtag saves the day! Nov 07 19:41:51 Tomoe, be a good boy and go take your pills! Nov 07 19:42:23 aha Nov 07 19:42:25 well Nov 07 19:42:33 im not really worried about bricking it Nov 07 19:42:36 becaise Nov 07 19:42:43 then go ahead and try =) Nov 07 19:42:44 i have a SD card linux install Nov 07 19:42:53 if i mess it up Nov 07 19:42:57 i just reset into windows Nov 07 19:43:02 but its a pain Nov 07 19:43:10 then just make a backup of that sd card Nov 07 19:43:12 pills for ills! Nov 07 19:43:19 oh! Nov 07 19:43:21 and then try to install package after =) Nov 07 19:43:26 can you just copy the files? Nov 07 19:43:29 lol Nov 07 19:43:31 of course Nov 07 19:43:41 i thought there might be hidden files like windows Nov 07 19:43:58 u know, that it takes special program to backup Nov 07 19:44:00 images are always better IMHO Nov 07 19:44:49 yeah Nov 07 19:45:57 ...... Nov 07 19:47:07 i guess i can just use my linux boot cd and back it up with something or just copy the files Nov 07 19:48:36 damn Nov 07 19:48:40 tomoe you're special! Nov 07 19:49:03 LostInspace: my momma tells me that every day Nov 07 19:49:08 ever since she went to heaven! Nov 07 19:51:14 I guess that was too much for him Nov 07 19:51:15 =D Nov 07 19:54:28 what are the nicknames for tomoe? Nov 07 19:54:32 why do u do it? Nov 07 19:55:03 what did he do again? Nov 07 19:55:40 we thought you left because he insulted you Nov 07 19:55:46 is he anti jew or something? Nov 07 19:55:54 he insulted me? Nov 07 19:56:02 not really Nov 07 19:56:09 we thought you perceived it like that Nov 07 19:56:20 he was just making "funny" comments Nov 07 19:56:35 but i hope there is no argument Nov 07 19:57:52 no no Nov 07 19:57:58 i had to test something =) Nov 07 19:59:11 how do you remove packages? Nov 07 20:03:10 Psibolt: with 'ipkg remove, of course! Nov 07 20:03:14 erm Nov 07 20:03:16 *remove' Nov 07 20:19:12 thx tomoe Nov 07 20:19:15 was absent Nov 07 20:20:19 Psibolt /removes PKG from tomoe XD Nov 07 20:20:55 u wish Nov 07 20:23:53 tomoe Nov 07 20:23:58 its been a long time already Nov 07 20:24:03 and pleasure has a limit XD Nov 07 20:24:16 let me just remove my package please ^^ Nov 07 20:24:42 its not that i dont like u ^^ Nov 07 20:26:25 bitch nigga you can neva eva Nov 07 20:26:30 get on my level ho Nov 07 20:26:41 hehe Nov 07 20:26:49 im just having a laugh mate XD Nov 07 20:27:06 relax and play with words Nov 07 20:29:19 don't tell me you're not familiar with the quote Nov 07 20:30:31 nope :P Nov 07 20:30:33 sorry Nov 07 20:30:45 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2j1YpjLGNnw Nov 08 00:25:14 hey Nov 08 00:28:51 NO Nov 08 00:28:55 WE WONT GO TO #OPENZAURUS Nov 08 00:34:20 is collie supported? Nov 08 00:37:55 hello bluelightning Nov 08 00:38:02 hi kinea Nov 08 00:38:36 someone knows, if the zaurus 5500 (collie) is supported? Nov 08 00:49:10 kinea: johnx got it to ron on 5k5 Nov 08 00:49:13 *run Nov 08 00:49:24 iirc Nov 08 00:50:11 ty Nov 08 00:50:28 but it involes quite a lot of hacking Nov 08 00:50:53 arg Nov 08 00:51:08 sounds like fun Nov 08 00:52:19 kinea: she likes hackers: http://www.imagebam.com/image/db522917468229/ Nov 08 00:52:55 hui Nov 08 00:53:16 I hope that's enough motivation Nov 08 00:53:17 =P Nov 08 00:54:18 :-) Nov 08 00:54:51 i come back these days. Nov 08 00:55:01 cu Nov 08 01:52:00 johnx: lol@ http://seabright.cn/en/showproduct_3.asp?Cid=179 Nov 08 02:27:04 it's just like pandora!!!!!! Nov 08 02:27:07 zomg! **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Nov 08 03:00:02 2008