**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Nov 17 02:59:57 2008
Nov 17 14:51:11 <LostInspace> well guys i Need a little info maybe one of you will be able to help
Nov 17 14:52:09 <LostInspace> After checking and checking it's not my usb-storage that is the issue... it seems to be the s3c2410-ohci that is the issue! for my error -62...after it detectes 2 port hub it doesn't detect (accordin to many dmesg I've seen) the rest...Should load some stuff in regards to s3c2410-ohci
Nov 17 14:52:18 <LostInspace> any clue on what I should try to go further?
Nov 17 15:59:05 <LostInspace> johnx, hello
Nov 17 15:59:15 <johnx> hey LostInspace 
Nov 17 15:59:19 <johnx> get things booting?
Nov 17 16:00:26 <Tomoe> shake your moneymaker!
Nov 17 16:45:59 <LostInspace> johnx, no
Nov 17 16:46:03 <LostInspace> johnx, still stuck
Nov 17 16:46:16 <LostInspace> johnx, http://pastebin.com/m20731a00 <-- this is what I see
Nov 17 16:46:36 <LostInspace> johnx, and according to all i've seen online this is what I should see http://pastebin.com/m78993709
Nov 17 16:48:13 <johnx> what's attached on the usb bus? is this some external storage or on the board itself?
Nov 17 16:49:05 <LostInspace> johnx, there is an ALI usb to IDE
Nov 17 16:49:24 <LostInspace> and then 2 ports on the outside to connect to the internal IDE and one to connect usb sticks to the gps for mp3
Nov 17 16:49:35 <LostInspace> no matter if i load usb-storage or nothing
Nov 17 16:49:52 <LostInspace> as soon as s3c2410-ohci loads...if i load usb-storage in kernel i get immediate error
Nov 17 16:49:56 <LostInspace> if i don't have usb-storage in kernel
Nov 17 16:50:08 <LostInspace> and i load an initrd to boot. as soon as root is mounted i get the errors
Nov 17 16:50:33 <johnx> I thought root was on NAND
Nov 17 16:50:39 <LostInspace> root is on nand
Nov 17 16:50:51 <LostInspace> haven't gotten to write it to nand with initrd yet
Nov 17 16:52:09 <LostInspace> cause according to what i read the errors I get from kernel...are due to loading the nand image from vivi
Nov 17 16:52:26 <LostInspace> So i should boot initrd with MTD tools...nandwrite and use that to write the rootfs to nand
Nov 17 16:52:29 <LostInspace> so that is the next step
Nov 17 16:52:45 <LostInspace> but i need to get the hdd going
Nov 17 16:52:52 <LostInspace> to put in all the maps for the gps and what not!
Nov 17 16:54:02 <LostInspace> i'm kinda at a stand still which is pissing me off right now lol
Nov 17 16:54:06 <johnx> I've seen similar things definitely on the zaurus, but it had to do with power issues
Nov 17 16:54:26 <johnx> trying to run a usb stick that was demanding just a bit too much juice for example
Nov 17 16:54:42 <johnx> but if that error happens without anything plugged in to the USB, then I have no idea
Nov 17 16:54:55 <LostInspace> well the IDE is always plugged into the usb port
Nov 17 16:54:58 <LostInspace> since it's onboard
Nov 17 16:55:08 <LostInspace> i should say the Usb to PATA controller
Nov 17 16:55:17 <johnx> interesting
Nov 17 16:55:23 <LostInspace> could it be the guys who designed this designed it crookedly
Nov 17 16:55:32 <LostInspace> and something in the 2.6.x kernel screws up?
Nov 17 16:55:44 <LostInspace> according to what I heard the 2.6.x kernel isn't as forgiving as the 2.4.x
Nov 17 16:56:08 <johnx> sorry, I really have no idea, and I'm aout to fall asleep on my keyboard
Nov 17 16:56:20 <johnx> good luck, but for now I'm gonna get some sleep
Nov 17 16:56:30 <LostInspace> take johnx 
Nov 17 16:56:32 <LostInspace> take care
Nov 17 16:56:36 <LostInspace> thanks for all the help =)
Nov 17 16:59:57 <Tomoe> johnx is zaurus GOD
Nov 17 17:53:07 <LostInspace> Tomoe, lol this doesn't concern zaurus =)
Nov 17 18:19:30 <Tomoe> LostInspace: I'm just kiddin' anyways =P
Nov 17 20:01:44 <technomancy> I just found a Sharp 5500 being given away (with a CF wifi card). How difficult would it be to get Angstrom up and running on it?
Nov 17 20:02:14 <technomancy> (keeping in mind I've got tons of desktop GNU/Linux experience, but my last handheld computer was a Palm V)
Nov 17 20:07:22 <bluelightning> technomancy: angstrom doesn't really support that machine atm, though it is being worked on in earnest
Nov 17 20:10:11 <technomancy> bluelightning: yeah, it sounds like it may be possible but tricky
Nov 17 20:10:37 <technomancy> well I'll give it a shot
Nov 17 20:10:54 <technomancy> is it still true that opie is a bit lighter than gpe?
Nov 17 20:10:54 <bluelightning> I don't know much about it specifically myself, but I keep reading about progress on it
Nov 17 20:11:18 <bluelightning> I'm not sure anyone's compared it recently
Nov 17 20:11:55 <bluelightning> I'm on the Opie team though so any answer I give could be biased ;)
Nov 17 20:12:10 <technomancy> I use gnome more by accident than anything else on my laptop
Nov 17 20:12:37 <technomancy> but when you don't have a full keyboard, gui stuff is much more important
Nov 17 20:12:47 * technomancy tries opie first
Nov 17 20:15:36 <technomancy> oh... I only have a 16MB card on me right now. I guess this will have to wait till I get home. =)
Nov 17 20:17:24 <bluelightning> yeah, that's a bit small :)
Nov 17 20:17:51 <technomancy> oh... looks like minimalist-gpe can hold it actually.
Nov 17 20:17:56 <technomancy> so opie will have to wait.
Nov 17 20:36:06 <technomancy> how long should it take to flash the zaurus with a 14MB initrd.bin?
Nov 17 20:36:32 <Tomoe> not long
Nov 17 20:36:37 <Tomoe> =)
Nov 17 20:37:12 <technomancy> if the lights are still flashing after 10 minutes, I guess that means something went wrong?
Nov 17 20:37:44 <Tomoe> I'd just like to say
Nov 17 20:37:46 <Tomoe> OWNED
Nov 17 20:37:56 <Tomoe> =P
Nov 17 20:38:01 <technomancy> like... bricked?
Nov 17 20:38:04 <Tomoe> technomancy: I'm not sure, C1k here
Nov 17 20:38:24 <Tomoe> don't know how exactly yours works
Nov 17 20:38:31 <Tomoe> but it shouldn't take 10 mins
Nov 17 20:39:13 <technomancy> but if you interrupt the flashing process, that will definitely brick it, right?
Nov 17 20:39:45 <Tomoe> most likely
Nov 17 20:39:56 <Tomoe> maybe you found out the reason why it was being given away
Nov 17 20:39:57 <Tomoe> =)
Nov 17 20:40:01 <technomancy> heh
Nov 17 20:40:12 <technomancy> well, it was working fine with the openzaurus software when I turned it on
Nov 17 20:40:25 <technomancy> but it didn't even come with a browser, so I wanted something a little more interesting
Nov 17 20:40:47 <Tomoe> well
Nov 17 20:40:55 <Tomoe> your call
Nov 17 20:40:56 <Tomoe> =)
Nov 17 20:41:27 <technomancy> well I don't think waiting any longer will make a difference.
Nov 17 20:42:50 <technomancy> that was ... uneventful.
Nov 17 20:42:57 <technomancy> will try reset+C+D again, I guess
Nov 17 20:43:12 <Tomoe> it doesn't boot?
Nov 17 20:43:22 <technomancy> worst case is my 10-month old will have a new toy to nom on
Nov 17 20:43:28 <technomancy> nope, I got nothing
Nov 17 20:45:35 <technomancy> the funny thing is, the re-flashing process still gets the two lights to blink. it's like it's still *trying*
Nov 17 20:46:19 <Tomoe> well
Nov 17 20:46:23 <Tomoe> should be able to flash it again
Nov 17 20:46:36 <Tomoe> should have dumped the original rom first =P
Nov 17 20:46:41 <technomancy> oh, so a bad flash doesn't brick it?
Nov 17 20:47:16 <Tomoe> I don't think so
Nov 17 20:47:21 <Tomoe> with my C1000 it doesn't
Nov 17 20:47:34 <technomancy> that's a relief. =)
Nov 17 20:48:19 <Tomoe> ＝）
Nov 17 20:50:12 <technomancy> I'll try an earlier build, I guess. any suggestions?
Nov 17 20:50:32 <Tomoe> yes
Nov 17 20:50:39 <Tomoe> watch this while it flashes
Nov 17 20:50:46 <Tomoe> http://cgi.4chan.org/gif/src/1226872361766.gif
Nov 17 20:51:09 <technomancy> heh
Nov 17 20:57:07 <technomancy> huh; tried again with the same image; interrupted the flashing after 15 minutes, and it's at least booting now
Nov 17 20:58:06 <technomancy> oh... no, it's back to the original openzaurus image. weird.
Nov 17 20:59:44 <Tomoe> haha
Nov 17 20:59:52 <Tomoe> TI RU RI RU TI RU RI RU
Nov 17 21:00:04 * Tomoe whistles the twilight zone theme
Nov 17 21:01:12 <technomancy> on the openzaurus wiki it says it will refuse to flash unless the battery is charged up. might be due to that.
Nov 17 21:01:45 <Tomoe> hm
Nov 17 21:01:47 <Tomoe> also
Nov 17 21:01:53 <technomancy> ah... that must be it. the lights were blinking; they're supposed to be solid while the flashing is going on.
Nov 17 21:01:55 <Tomoe> the charger needs to be plugged in
Nov 17 21:01:58 <technomancy> the first doc I read didn't mention this
Nov 17 21:02:08 <technomancy> yeah, it's plugged in, but the battery isn't full yet
Nov 17 21:02:12 <Tomoe> ok
Nov 17 21:02:13 <Tomoe> =)
Nov 17 21:03:25 <technomancy> kind of an odd requirement, but whatever
Nov 17 21:03:31 <technomancy> I'm just glad it still works.
Nov 17 21:04:46 <Tomoe> yeah, seeing how you paid a lot for it
Nov 17 21:04:47 <Tomoe> =PP
Nov 17 21:05:38 <wbrown> not so odd
Nov 17 21:05:54 <wbrown> almost all the devices i have require being plugged in before allowing to be flashed.
Nov 17 21:06:10 <wbrown> and it's something you should do ANYWAY.
Nov 17 21:06:57 <Tomoe> =)
Nov 17 21:07:18 <Tomoe> wbrown: he was commenting the 'battery needs to be fully charged' requirement
Nov 17 21:07:37 <wbrown> hm, battery fully charged is odd.
Nov 17 21:07:53 <wbrown> maybe they're afraid of someone tripping over the power cord while low battery state happens?
Nov 17 21:15:30 <geckosenator> that happened to me
Nov 17 21:15:39 <geckosenator> my roommate tripped over the power cord
Nov 17 21:16:01 <wbrown> while you were flashing something?
Nov 17 21:16:46 <geckosenator> like a battery low icon?
Nov 17 21:17:02 <geckosenator> or you mean actually flashing the chip
Nov 17 21:17:07 <geckosenator> no, not that
Nov 17 21:17:09 <Tomoe> LOL
Nov 17 21:17:11 <Tomoe> =)
Nov 17 21:17:30 <wbrown> yeah, that's what I meant :)
Nov 17 21:18:01 <technomancy> it just means I have to do real work for a while until it finishes charging. which is probably a good thing
Nov 17 21:33:55 <technomancy> oh... actually, it turns out you just can't flash this kind of zaurus with an SD card.
Nov 17 21:34:50 <wbrown> technomancy: heh, so how do you flash it?
Nov 17 21:35:15 <technomancy> CF. which I don't have a card or reader.
Nov 17 21:35:38 <technomancy> old school!
Nov 17 21:35:42 <wbrown> $5 from a computer store.
Nov 17 22:00:25 <wbrown> perhaps someone here can answer this.
Nov 17 22:00:41 <wbrown> how do i select a specific opkg package version to install?
Nov 17 22:04:02 <geckosenator> like name-3.8 ?
Nov 17 22:04:04 <geckosenator> just a guess
Nov 17 23:35:23 <bluelightning> ant__: sorry I wasn't around earlier... did you manage to fix your issue?
Nov 17 23:35:47 <ant__> hi
Nov 17 23:36:03 <ant__> one is caused by this: 
Nov 17 23:36:03 <ant__> module-init-tools: update to 3.4
Nov 17 23:36:19 <ant__> 9 hours ago
Nov 17 23:36:19 <ant__> 	Koen Kooi
Nov 17 23:36:38 <ant__> the others are referring to Opie
Nov 17 23:36:52 <ant__> built using uClibc
Nov 17 23:38:42 <bluelightning> hmm, I've never tried that...
Nov 17 23:39:04 <ant__> brrr
Nov 17 23:39:43 <bluelightning> I'm certainly no expert when it comes to battling with OE/Angstrom build issues either, I'm afraid :(
Nov 17 23:40:06 <ant__> he..me too when it's about toolchain
Nov 17 23:44:55 <gerwinin> Seems angstrom for avr32 is fixed again :)
Nov 17 23:46:28 <bluelightning> ant__: looking at the error, somewhere there are a bunch of "qmakespec" files for various arch/sys combinations
Nov 17 23:46:42 <bluelightning> I suspect there is not one that matches the uclibc config you are trying to build with
Nov 17 23:47:00 <ant__> yeah, it seems this qmake spec issue is not new
Nov 17 23:52:19 <ant__> bluelightning: I'll retry tomorrow.
Nov 17 23:52:32 <ant__> pls ping Koen about module-init-tools
Nov 17 23:54:49 <ant__> for 3.4 he changed SRC_URI and removed some patches
Nov 17 23:54:56 <ant__> 'nite
Nov 18 00:24:10 <technomancy> what are your options for webkit on angstrom?
Nov 18 00:24:16 <technomancy> is it just konqueror
Nov 18 00:24:17 <technomancy> ?
**** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Nov 18 02:59:56 2008