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Apr 19 07:12:25 <BitWraith> does angstrom use and/or support EABI?
Apr 19 10:19:57 <meebey_> BitWraith: any way I can found on a system? it uses a different arm ABI than debian arm, getting illegal instruction when I run some application
Apr 19 11:20:52 <caribou|> hello
Apr 19 11:21:12 <like2wise> hello
Apr 19 11:22:40 <broonie> meebey_: Debian ARM is ARMv4 IIRC whereas most things will tend to build for a more modern ARM unless forced to do otherwise.
Apr 19 11:27:41 <meebey_> broonie: is armv5te the EABI?
Apr 19 11:27:50 <meebey_> broonie: debian calls it armel, thus I am confused
Apr 19 11:28:20 <meebey_> debian arm is not running on angstrom armv5te at least, so I wonder if I can get debian/armel running
Apr 19 11:29:09 <broonie> I'd expect armel to work in a chroot.
Apr 19 11:35:32 <broonie> The ARM version stuff refers to the instruction set supported by the processor.
Apr 19 12:11:34 <caribou|> do you have any idea why the xserver-xorg-conf on the arm4vt angstrom repositories put an empty xorg.conf file ?
Apr 19 13:07:11 <Greyscale> Downloading http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/feed/all/Packages.gz
Apr 19 13:07:13 <Greyscale> wget: server returned error 404: HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found
Apr 19 13:07:16 <Greyscale> Where did the packages go! :(
Apr 19 13:07:17 <Greyscale> Who's incharge of the feeds? :/
Apr 19 13:12:55 <marex> ask on #angstrom
Apr 19 13:14:02 <marex> try adding these http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/armv5te/ one after another
Apr 19 13:14:59 <marex> urm ... sorry, this is #angstrom
Apr 19 13:15:05 <marex> Greyscale, try adding these http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/armv5te/ one after another
Apr 19 13:15:28 <Greyscale> I was wondering there.
Apr 19 13:15:48 <Greyscale> I will do. I don't appear to have nano on my ARM board.
Apr 19 13:15:55 <Greyscale> can I just quickly snag a nano build?
Apr 19 13:16:09 * Greyscale is an apt-ist, is new to ipkg
Apr 19 13:16:15 <marex> yup, just opkg install it
Apr 19 13:17:20 <Greyscale> But I can't because my repo config is broken
Apr 19 13:17:30 <Greyscale> and I wanted to edit it with nano :/
Apr 19 13:17:52 <marex> dont you have "vi" or "ed" there?
Apr 19 13:17:57 <Greyscale> Oh god vi
Apr 19 13:18:00 <Greyscale> help help no not vi
Apr 19 13:18:01 <marex> or use "sed" and "cat"
Apr 19 13:18:19 <marex> vi(m) is the best anyway
Apr 19 13:19:45 <marex> Greyscale, vim file , navigate using [h][j][k][l], [i] is insert mode, [esc] exit to command mode, :wq[enter] - write and quit
Apr 19 13:28:29 <Greyscale> Bugger that noise. I used cat and echo in the end
Apr 19 13:30:19 <Greyscale> Right. Works now. Thanks marex. Next question. How do I compile (point me to a howto?) stuff. I need to compile php-cli :/
Apr 19 13:30:44 <marex> use oe ?
Apr 19 13:30:57 <marex> http://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/Getting_started start here
Apr 19 13:30:58 <Greyscale> oe?
Apr 19 13:31:58 <marex> openembedded ;)
Apr 19 13:32:15 <marex> you might need to write a recipe for it though (if it's not there yet)
Apr 19 13:32:55 <marex> and if you actually have to write the recipe, be sure to drop it here http://bugs.openembedded.net/ so others can benefit from your work
Apr 19 13:37:27 <Greyscale> I keep thinking debian would have been a better choice, but I lack the skills to put debian on my ARM dev board
Apr 19 13:38:55 <marex> xscale ?
Apr 19 13:39:22 <marex> you can try this http://releases.hackndev.com/debian-lenny-armel-20081004.rootfs.tar.bz2
Apr 19 13:39:44 <marex> though Angstrom is still better because it makes better use of your hardware ;)
Apr 19 13:39:56 <marex> debian has to maintain compatibility across many CPUs etc.
Apr 19 15:11:33 <Greyscale> marex, its not an xscale, I think
Apr 19 15:11:42 <Greyscale> lemme find some documentation for you
Apr 19 15:12:00 <Greyscale> http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=9048 Its this
Apr 19 15:12:51 <Greyscale> We don't care about hardware compatability. Our dev board has a touchscreen and LCD, but we really just need a php interpreter, USB and serial. [Long story]
Apr 19 15:12:56 <putumutukas> Crofton do you happen to be around ?
Apr 19 15:14:06 <Greyscale> also: sorry marex about the 2 hour delay replying, I was off eating lunch
Apr 19 15:16:44 <marex> well then add the recipe into OE ;)
Apr 19 17:02:04 <caribou|> does anyone have a working xorg.conf for a handheld ?
Apr 19 18:30:29 <Balrog_> hi ... I'm having trouble with USB bridging  on this SL-5500 ... any ideas what may be wrong?
Apr 19 18:35:11 <Gnutoo> Balrog_, hi
Apr 19 18:35:35 <Balrog_> Hi. I'm having this problem with ethernet to USB (using the dock with my 5500)
Apr 19 18:35:36 <Gnutoo> Balrog_, you need a special module named: gether
Apr 19 18:35:47 <Balrog_> ok. do I need to install it separately?
Apr 19 18:35:48 <Gnutoo> it provides ethernet via usb
Apr 19 18:35:58 <Balrog_> because ifconfig lists the interface
Apr 19 18:36:05 <Balrog_> and shows that it has an IP address
Apr 19 18:36:08 <Gnutoo> modprobe gether
Apr 19 18:36:13 <Gnutoo> ah ok
Apr 19 18:36:15 <Gnutoo> so it's there
Apr 19 18:36:21 <Gnutoo> it should be something like usb0
Apr 19 18:36:51 <Gnutoo> and what do you mean by ethernet trough usb? normal usb cable with ethernet emulation?
Apr 19 18:37:09 <Balrog_> it's usbd0
Apr 19 18:37:18 <Gnutoo> Balrog_, what's the ip?
Apr 19 18:37:19 <Balrog_> yes, ethernet through the USB dock
Apr 19 18:37:27 <Gnutoo> ???
Apr 19 18:37:33 <Gnutoo> I don't know enough collie
Apr 19 18:37:48 <Balrog_> this works on the 5600 too ... the USB dock can do virtual 'ethernet'
Apr 19 18:38:01 <Gnutoo> I usually use ethernet emulation over usb...there is only a normal usb cable
Apr 19 18:38:03 <Balrog_> so yes, you could say emulation
Apr 19 18:38:05 <Gnutoo> no ethernet cable at all
Apr 19 18:38:06 <Gnutoo> ok
Apr 19 18:38:09 <Balrog_> yeah.
Apr 19 18:38:13 <Gnutoo> so what's the ip of the machine?
Apr 19 18:38:31 <Gnutoo> maybe you just need to setup the connection on your desktop/laptop computer
Apr 19 18:38:37 <Balrog_> I did. One sec.
Apr 19 18:38:49 <Balrog_> I used these instructions:
Apr 19 18:38:50 <Balrog_> http://wiki.openzaurus.org/HowTos/Bridging_with_Ubuntu
Apr 19 18:39:32 <Balrog_> IP is 10.0.1.67
Apr 19 18:39:48 <Balrog_> my ethernet router is 10.0.1.1 and subnet mask is 255.255.255.0
Apr 19 18:39:57 <Balrog_> (I use a 10.0.1.x subnet)
Apr 19 18:40:36 <Gnutoo> this seems overcomplicated
Apr 19 18:40:53 <Gnutoo> I just use a kernel module on my laptop-desktop + an iptable script
Apr 19 18:41:03 <Balrog_> hmm...?
Apr 19 18:41:11 <Gnutoo> without the bridging can you ping your collie
Apr 19 18:41:12 <Gnutoo> ?
Apr 19 18:41:17 <Balrog_> well in any case, both sides report correct IP and I can't ping
Apr 19 18:41:26 <Balrog_> with or without bridging, I can't ping ...
Apr 19 18:41:33 <Gnutoo> ok so you don't have internet via your collie?
Apr 19 18:41:38 <Balrog_> nope.
Apr 19 18:41:45 <Balrog_> and I do need it :/
Apr 19 18:41:52 <Gnutoo> ok so I think you need an iptable script 
Apr 19 18:41:56 <Gnutoo> I will give you onw
Apr 19 18:42:00 <Gnutoo> s/onw/one
Apr 19 18:42:25 <Balrog_> hm. will iptable help as I have an internal home network (NAT) set up?
Apr 19 18:43:04 <Gnutoo> http://rafb.net/p/07vQ8r61.html
Apr 19 18:43:10 <Gnutoo> yes it will work
Apr 19 18:43:19 <Gnutoo> then check the route on your collie
Apr 19 18:43:25 <Gnutoo> if it's not set up properly do
Apr 19 18:43:32 <Balrog_> where to put it?
Apr 19 18:43:43 <Gnutoo> route add default gw $laptop/desktop-computer
Apr 19 18:43:48 <Gnutoo> the script?
Apr 19 18:43:50 <Balrog_> yes.
Apr 19 18:43:59 <Gnutoo> where you want but I think you need to run it as root
Apr 19 18:44:07 <Gnutoo> so put it in /root/
Apr 19 18:44:27 <Gnutoo> replace eth2 by your network card that access the internet
Apr 19 18:44:31 <Gnutoo> on your laptop
Apr 19 18:44:34 <Gnutoo> else it won't work
Apr 19 18:45:31 <Balrog_> ok.
Apr 19 18:45:41 <Gnutoo> then ping an ip like 213.140.2.12 from the collie
Apr 19 18:45:52 <Gnutoo> if you can't ping websites like www.gnu.org do:
Apr 19 18:45:53 <Balrog_> OK.
Apr 19 18:46:24 <Gnutoo> cat /etc/resolv.conf on your desktop/laptop
Apr 19 18:46:52 <Gnutoo> and copy that to your collie
Apr 19 18:46:59 <Gnutoo> in /etc/resolv.conf
Apr 19 18:47:46 <Balrog_> once I can ssh in, that should be ok
Apr 19 18:49:16 <Gnutoo> if you can ping it you should be able to ssh in it
Apr 19 18:52:29 <Gnutoo> i'll be back soon
Apr 19 18:58:46 <Balrog_> Gnutoo: how do you load the script?
Apr 19 19:11:23 <Gnutoo> sh ./script
Apr 19 23:15:04 <jnoah1984> Hello I am trying to bitbake netsurf, however I am receiving http://pastebin.com/d197b50a6 , any ideas that can help? Thanks
Apr 19 23:25:24 <jnoah1984> The errors pertains to the QA handling of the packaging. Any help is appreciated.
Apr 19 23:42:37 <Greyscale> Argh, I know its not angstrom, but I don't know where to turn. I have debian on my embedded ARM device. Its ignoring my USB keyboard. I used the image linked about 8 hours or so ago
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