**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Nov 19 02:59:57 2009 Nov 19 08:52:01 XorA: Can I run something by you, on an embedded system I feel that the users maildir should be in ~/ and not /var/spool etc. as you can't make assumptions about the state of /var and space. Is that reasonable? (tweaking Shadows setup). Nov 19 08:52:27 DJWillis: traditionally Maildir has always been in ~ Nov 19 08:52:43 DJWillis: mail spool traditionally was in /var/spool Nov 19 08:53:11 DJWillis: reason for Maildir being in ~ is so quotas work Nov 19 08:55:16 XorA: never really considered it, that's why I asked, I was just pondering. Ok, so #MAIL_DIR /var/spool/mail Nov 19 08:55:16 MAIL_FILE .mail seems a sensible default setup (i.e. it's in ~/.mail not in v/s/m/user - Seems good to me. I'll make the tweak. Nov 19 08:56:03 DJWillis: it certainly seems reasonable to me to deliver all mail to $HOME Nov 19 08:56:45 DJWillis: MDA really selects where mail goes anyway Nov 19 08:57:16 XorA: at the moment shadow is defaulting to the /v/s/m route hense the checking ;) - having to do a shed load of sedfoo to get all the PAM stuff going with login.defs so figured I may as well sort this at the same time. Hmmm, had not considerd mda just cleaning errors ;-). Nov 19 08:57:59 DJWillis: I would check what debian do, all their MDAs deliver to a Maildir in $HOME by default thesed days Nov 19 08:58:29 should be an Angstrom chant, "Check what debian do" Nov 19 08:59:52 XorA: ;-). That was my take on sorting pam, take the defaults from Debian and if it works leave well alone ;-) Nov 19 09:05:54 DJWillis: I look forward to your pam patches, I would like to enable pam to make dbus security work properly] Nov 19 09:07:38 XorA: patches = massive hack that only sort of works (still not got a working passwd in shadow for instance ;-)). It's getting there, also got SLiM as a DM using PAM so I don't have to carry GDM or half of GPE for login to Xfce ;-) Nov 19 09:09:14 XorA: some (most) of the patches are in my public tree but if you look don't hurt me for hackishness :( Nov 19 09:14:58 DJWillis: hehe, Ill let you off this time :-D Nov 19 09:15:10 DJWillis: unless my pandora crashes all the time Nov 19 09:16:36 XorA: At the moment the 1st run script can't create a password for the new user so hangs the boot, good enough for you ;-) Nov 19 09:18:31 * XorA really should dig his gp2x out for a last play :-D Nov 19 09:21:01 XorA: still hacking on that? I dropped a new ScummVM for it and the Wiz a few days ago, I do have Angstrom/OE data for it somewhere but as it was 2.4 with no clean way to go 2.6 it died a death. Nov 19 09:24:08 DJWillis: I never hacked on that device it was my actual working can use device :-D Nov 19 09:24:45 XorA: there is a diff :-o - If it has a CPU, hack it. Nov 19 09:25:15 it got itself replaced by my PSP Nov 19 13:40:04 hi all Nov 19 13:40:12 someone here has openmoko freerunner? Nov 19 13:45:26 try #openmoko ? Nov 19 13:45:43 pbaxter: but I have one.. Nov 19 13:45:51 pbaxter: #openmoko-cdevel Nov 19 13:46:30 Crofton|work: i know it exists...but i'd like to know someone who has the angstrom distribution on the freerunner Nov 19 13:46:47 pbaxter, not sure about that Nov 19 13:47:20 * JaMa|Wrk is building angstrom for his neo, but not using it.. Nov 19 13:47:50 JaMa|Wrk: why? Nov 19 13:48:28 pbaxter: to check if my patches merged from SHR to oe.dev didn't break angstrom (testing it on neo build and also for spitz) Nov 19 13:49:11 JaMa|Wrk, check the beagle also, lots of users there :) Nov 19 13:49:46 JaMa|Wrk: let me know if you have a jffs2 that works ok? Nov 19 13:49:51 ie rpj day? :) Nov 19 13:50:13 pbaxter: why do you need angstrom instead of SHR? Nov 19 13:50:24 JaMa|Wrk: i don't like SHR and E Nov 19 13:50:27 mostly E Nov 19 13:50:33 because of too many problems Nov 19 13:50:51 pbaxter: ah ok.. but I'm not even flashing those, which build successfully.. :) Nov 19 13:51:08 why JaMa|Wrk? Nov 19 13:51:23 JaMa|Wrk: just tell me if you succeed in creating a version for FR ok? Nov 19 13:52:09 pbaxter: yes i built image for FR about a week ago from xorg-7.5 branch.. Nov 19 13:52:58 and then dumped my tmpdir.. because of lack of disk space :/ Nov 19 13:53:45 JaMa|Wrk: ok Nov 19 13:53:51 and does it work? Nov 19 13:54:11 pbaxter: no idea.. haven't flashed it.. Nov 19 13:54:44 JaMa|Wrk: can you give me a link to it? Nov 19 13:55:08 14:52:51 < JaMa|Wrk> and then dumped my tmpdir.. because of lack of disk space :/ Nov 19 18:34:44 JaMa: can i disturb you again? Nov 19 18:38:26 yes :) Nov 19 18:55:40 JaMa: ifi change SHR repo to angstrom ones, what do i have to install to have complete UI interface? Nov 19 19:54:24 pbaxter: no idea.. Nov 19 20:22:40 Hi guys, have unstable on zaurus, having issus with avahi/dhcp combination, i have my wlan0 configured for dhcp but avahi always seems to just step in and assign an 169... address and so it never connects to my network automatically, i have to run udhcpc -i wlan0 everytime, any ideas what might be wrong? Nov 19 23:38:27 i am trying to build angstrom for ipaq 3600 Nov 19 23:39:12 it seems i have incorrect machine id: Error: unrecognized/unsupported machine ID (r1 = 0x00000089).Available machine support:D (hex) NAME Nov 19 23:39:12 00000016 Compaq iPAQ H3600 Nov 19 23:40:20 any idea where the id has to be specified? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Nov 20 03:00:07 2009