**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Feb 23 02:59:58 2010 Feb 23 03:03:29 nope Feb 23 03:03:56 still chokes. i get angstrom splash screen but then it hangs shortly after Feb 23 03:04:22 i think my kexecboot flash install may be questionable? Feb 23 03:04:48 the kexecboot menu comes up, but i havent been able to boot anything from it Feb 23 03:04:51 *yet Feb 23 03:06:51 i have successfully flashed this machine with an opie image in the past Feb 23 03:07:38 but am wanting to do kexecboot feature so i have more space to play... Feb 23 03:13:47 good evening! Feb 23 03:14:14 I'm trying to build vlc-1.0.5 using arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc and friends Feb 23 03:14:38 but I'm having trouble with some library dependencies Feb 23 03:15:24 this is probably bad form, but I have libraries kind of spread around: some in my openembedded build directory, some in /usr/local/angstrom/.../usr/lib, etc. Feb 23 03:15:58 it seems that arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-ld can't find some libraries that I've placed in the latter of the two listed above Feb 23 03:16:41 i feel like i need to do something like ldconfig to tell ld that i've just copied some .so files into .../usr/lib Feb 23 03:16:50 but i'm really new to this cross-compilation thing Feb 23 03:16:53 any hints? Feb 23 03:28:11 http://www.oesf.org/forum? Feb 23 03:28:58 wjward <-' Feb 23 03:29:25 thanks, i'll check it out Feb 23 03:31:52 * Jonimus blinks he's never seen this chan so active Feb 23 03:32:52 kaz00: I've decided to not use OE, just try to cross-compile this one application. I have OE setup, but gave up trying to make my own recipe for vlc-1.0.5 Feb 23 03:33:17 is the consensus that it would be better to let OE/BB do the heavy lifting and try to build my own recipe for vlc-1.0.5? Feb 23 03:34:10 I never got OE/BB to even build a base image for my h2200 so good luck Feb 23 03:34:11 sry i am new as well. i dont really know enough to have an opinion Feb 23 03:34:31 i understand the feeling... Feb 23 03:34:33 thanks anyway! Feb 23 03:34:42 the images i have gotten OE/BB to generate havent worked yet Feb 23 03:34:55 but i am still hoping that is my ignorance Feb 23 03:35:25 kaz00: heh your miles ahead of me then, I never even got that far :/ Feb 23 03:36:08 well i have an old machine Feb 23 03:36:09 i've had success building image for my mini2440; if there's anything i might be able to do to help, just ask Feb 23 03:36:17 poodle... zaurus sl-5600 Feb 23 03:36:43 then again my device is much older and is fairly useless even with angstrom, though If i got lirc working 100% I'd have a kick ass universal remote :P Feb 23 03:36:44 so i feel like the issue is me and not the code... but i would be grateful for any/all input Feb 23 03:37:01 universal remote with irc Feb 23 03:37:07 thats kinda cool Feb 23 03:37:16 lirc, Linux Ir Remote Control Feb 23 03:37:31 ah Feb 23 03:37:47 heh then you might be inspired by this functionality... (link to follow) Feb 23 03:38:41 http://www.tvbgone.com Feb 23 03:38:48 yeah I know Feb 23 03:39:19 I've used lirc before but the setup is such a pita, and of course the repo's don't have it built for my device Feb 23 03:40:38 is angstrom the only OE distro still active, if you can call it that? Feb 23 03:40:46 any thoughts of playing with android on your mini? Feb 23 03:40:52 i dunno Feb 23 03:41:29 I can run android on my Phone, its ok but I prefer WinMo on it to android Feb 23 03:41:49 sadly android is more locked down than WinMo in some cases Feb 23 03:41:58 kaz00: yeah, it's a possibility; i want to wait until there's a little more platform-specific documentation out there Feb 23 03:42:49 wjward:what machine are you compiling Feb 23 03:42:54 for? Feb 23 03:43:11 mini2440, it's an s3c2440-based devboard Feb 23 03:46:27 wjward: my confusion. i thought that was jonimus. cool. did you bitbake the image? Feb 23 03:46:44 yes, i just got it working this weekend! Feb 23 03:47:26 i started out with some prebuild images, but none of them had everything i needed, so i decided to take the plunge Feb 23 03:48:02 kaz00: I have an HP iPaq h2200 I was never able to get OE to even come close to finishing a build Feb 23 03:48:35 hi.... I'm running those tests http://code.google.com/p/beagleboard/wiki/BeagleboardRevCValidation Feb 23 03:48:48 I tried the online image builder but some of the packages had issues and I was never able to get it to connect to the internet to install more packages Feb 23 03:49:01 and I fail in the mouse and keyboard tests...... this means that the usb plug is damaged? Feb 23 03:50:39 jonimus: is there an older version of familiar that might work for you? Feb 23 03:51:44 kaz00: I'm sure there is but I'd rather have the newer software than be that far out of date :/ Feb 23 03:52:17 jonimus: maybe you can get older install then udpate/upgrade??? Feb 23 03:52:47 I can't access the net with it reliably or I ould Feb 23 03:52:54 would* Feb 23 03:53:12 kaz00: to turn off the splash screen so you can see where it fails, edit /boot/boot.cfg 's append line and add psplash=false Feb 23 03:54:25 wjward: what version of vlc? Feb 23 03:55:04 james_l: i'm trying to build 1.0.5 now, but i think any version after 1.0.0 will do Feb 23 03:55:18 jonimus: what i mean is with older familiar install you might recover networking and then you can then update/upgrade??? Feb 23 03:56:33 Let me see, it may be your machine, which I can't see which one it is? Is it the mini2440 you mention? Feb 23 03:56:42 kaz00: the issue with networking is more hardware than anything Feb 23 03:56:59 james_l: yes, mini2440 Feb 23 03:57:00 there are like no reliable ways to connect it Feb 23 03:57:21 You happen to know what the machine name is? Feb 23 03:57:39 i'm not sure i understan Feb 23 03:58:21 is the machine name (such as collie for Zaurus SL-5500) mini2440? Feb 23 03:58:33 As you'd specify in build.conf Feb 23 03:59:12 yes, from ./conf/local.conf: MACHINE = "mini2440" Feb 23 03:59:58 james_l: there is no boot.conf instead there is instead kernel-cmdline (rename)? Feb 23 04:00:14 (this was the online generated image) Feb 23 04:00:36 * Jonimus its not posting, I guess I left it sitting too long :/ Feb 23 04:00:39 and link from linuxrc->/bin/busybox is broken as there is no /bin/busyox Feb 23 04:00:40 Hrm. Was that 'stable' or unstable? Feb 23 04:00:59 i *think* i chose stable Feb 23 04:01:06 question mark? Feb 23 04:02:15 Well, try to add it to the kernel-cmdlin file first, if not, try unstable, Feb 23 04:05:44 * james_l is trying to build vlc (for tosa, I think), but apparently something changed in dev, so I'm having to rebuild X, so it'll be a while, before I know if just copying vlc_1.0.2.bb > vlc_1.0.5.bb works or not. Feb 23 04:06:44 as for symlink from linuxrc to /bin/busybox, relink it? Feb 23 04:07:01 quite possibly. Feb 23 04:07:17 You specify the 'replace busybox' option on the online builder? Feb 23 04:07:47 not that i know... just vanilla install. Feb 23 04:10:39 heh it appears the build I have one here is missing all network related packages :/ Feb 23 04:11:22 It have pcmcia support? Feb 23 04:12:08 james_l: well I only have Serial, SD and CF and bluetooth on this thing Feb 23 04:12:14 so no :/ Feb 23 04:12:22 built in bluetooth? Feb 23 04:12:35 Also, CF = pcmcia Feb 23 04:13:33 (moslty, it's just a cut down socket, which is why you can get cf to pcmcia adapters and pcmcia to cf adapters (those are rare, and expensive)) Feb 23 04:14:18 Jonimus: do you know the machine name? Feb 23 04:15:18 yeah h2200 Feb 23 04:16:08 I have a pcmian to cf but not the other way around, if I did I have a pcmcia to ethernet adapter I could use Feb 23 04:16:10 That should, pull the networking stuff into task-base, due to it having MACHINE_FEATURES = pcmcia Feb 23 04:16:32 except my angstrom install is on the cf card :/ Feb 23 04:16:40 d'oh Feb 23 04:17:13 general question: why are the symlinks in my rootfs image breaking when i copy them to my sd card? Feb 23 04:17:36 not *them, *it Feb 23 04:18:31 Well, it should pull that in anyway, with the either one of pcmcia *or* bluetooth Feb 23 04:20:24 well I'm attempting to build my own image again Feb 23 04:20:31 wish me luck Feb 23 04:20:40 good luck! Feb 23 04:20:51 Good luck, using stable or dev? Feb 23 04:21:07 good luck jonimus! Feb 23 04:21:09 o_O Why is vlc pulling in qt? Feb 23 04:21:25 some of the gui's for it use qt Feb 23 04:21:35 ^ Feb 23 04:22:19 Yeah, come to think of it, I didn't know what GUI vlc uses by default anyway. Feb 23 04:22:19 oh wow there is now a machine for the htcvogue, aka my phone Feb 23 04:23:42 * james_l hates the SD rules with a passion, and is considering a 'how not to do linux devices' document, with lots of experience drawn from Zaurus. Feb 23 04:33:58 I forgot how much space OE took up, I may need a bigger HDD :/ Feb 23 04:35:52 * james_l chuckles Feb 23 04:38:06 Ok, this is getting rediculous, it's pulling in mysql too. Feb 23 04:38:24 haha, how did you configure it? Feb 23 04:38:25 i will brb, but am finding that there are many broken symlinks in my image that was untarred from the online builder. Feb 23 04:38:30 there's a lot you might need to disable... Feb 23 04:39:35 just copied vlc-1.0.2.bb to vlc-1.0.5.bb Feb 23 04:40:06 ahh, vlc-1.0.2 might be useful Feb 23 04:40:14 the newest i have is 0.9.8a Feb 23 04:40:34 i just got 1.0.5 to bake, i'm moving it over to my mini2440 now Feb 23 04:43:06 okay, apparently that .ipk didn't contain libvlc... Feb 23 04:43:10 back to the drawing board, lol Feb 23 04:56:53 Anyone remember off the top of their heads what the command to allow unchecksummed files is? Feb 23 05:08:27 james_l: heh not a clue Feb 23 05:12:00 1/3rd of the way through the tasks.... Feb 23 05:12:12 1/4th* Feb 23 05:12:24 Fyi, It should be according to the internet OE_ALLOW_INSECURE_DOWNLOADS Feb 23 05:17:43 good to know Feb 23 05:17:57 also how long did your first build take you? Feb 23 05:19:12 meh I guess I'll just leave my laptop to work overnight Feb 23 05:19:45 Took a while, as that builds the crosscompiler and all that stuff. Feb 23 05:20:17 yeah I figured, how much space did you need, I may end having to move it to my desktop if I start to run out Feb 23 05:21:21 Second, checking (I've got more than just the bare in OE, saved images, etc etc) Feb 23 05:21:44 I'm sure I just was looking for an estimate Feb 23 05:22:34 I'm actually not sure. Feb 23 05:22:44 du is taking a bit as I'm compiling atm. Feb 23 05:23:02 ahh nice Feb 23 05:23:15 I really need to clean up this partition anyway Feb 23 05:23:28 I'm using most of my 30GB :/ Feb 23 05:25:12 OE/angstrom-dev is using 18GB (keep in mind though, that's got collie (armv4__), tosa (armv5___), and x86 images in there) Feb 23 05:25:32 Sorry I'm not more specific about how big it is. Feb 23 05:26:11 damn, well I'll only be building arm5vte images but I only have ~3GB free arm Feb 23 05:26:15 atm* Feb 23 05:27:22 angstrom-dev-old is 11GB, so probably about 6GB per type, plus downloads which in my case (having built opie, x11, gpe, etc, etc is about 1.7GB) Feb 23 05:27:52 heh ok so I'm gonna need to clear some space :/ Feb 23 05:30:25 * james_l should dump compiling this off to his desktop, but it lacks the disk space in this case. Feb 23 05:30:37 well, the free disk space. Feb 23 05:31:31 I should as well but my desktop currently is waiting to be transfered to a larger HDD, its all set I've just been to lazy to throw in a live CD and do the move Feb 23 05:32:35 james_ did you figure out the unchecksummed issue... ? i think it an envt var setting... Feb 23 05:32:46 * james_l has disks, but most of the data on them is duplicated, because hard drive crashes suck. (I don't think I lost much when that happened, except my gentoo, which is why I moved to kubuntu) Feb 23 05:33:10 kaz00: I added it to openembedded/conf/checksums.ini (or maybe checksum) Feb 23 05:33:57 if you put it in the ini then you're good Feb 23 05:34:05 I know the disk my Desktop's Arch LInux install is on is going but I haven't moved it to the replacement 1TB drive yet as stated Feb 23 05:34:06 *that sounded odd Feb 23 05:34:11 Yeah, it's compiling now Feb 23 05:34:38 ANYONE: any idea why the symlinks in my image are gettin brokedn when i unpack it? they are intact in the downloaded image Feb 23 05:34:50 *broken Feb 23 05:35:00 I don't know, possibly the image is broken. Feb 23 05:35:00 ? Feb 23 05:35:15 I know they are broken for tosa and collie, but I don't think for that reason. Feb 23 05:35:18 Wait a second... Feb 23 05:35:24 what fs is your sd? Feb 23 05:35:29 ext2 Feb 23 05:35:45 though... Feb 23 05:35:49 it is still fat16 Feb 23 05:35:51 damn, that would have been way too easy (thinking it was vfat) Feb 23 05:49:28 kaz00: was it fat16? Feb 23 05:55:27 woo almost 1/2 done with base-image :) Feb 23 05:55:42 then I can get to the real building Feb 23 06:07:20 james: yes Feb 23 06:07:26 yes fat16 Feb 23 06:07:32 nnot a linux partition Feb 23 06:08:00 That would explain your broken simlinks Feb 23 06:08:21 should be linux partition? Feb 23 06:09:16 partition type doesn't matter, just the filesystem, so copy whatever you need off of there (if anything), then mkfs.ext2 on the device file, and it should work now. Feb 23 06:10:41 interesting. currently it is fat16 and i did mkfs.ext2 on it... Feb 23 06:15:05 woot it'll be done by morning and I'll be all set to build a real image :) Feb 23 06:18:13 compiling glibc... Feb 23 06:18:25 * Jonimus hopes he doesn't run out of space Feb 23 07:09:39 Sheesh qt is taking forever Feb 23 07:10:33 are you still trying to build vlc? Feb 23 07:11:27 Yeah Feb 23 07:11:47 Feels like I'm back on a 300 MHz alpha with those build times. Feb 23 07:11:53 haha Feb 23 07:12:07 so i got vlc-1.0.5 to bake, but it depends on glibc-2.8 Feb 23 07:12:11 or worse, an x86 from that time period Feb 23 07:12:22 which looks like it's not going to build for me... Feb 23 07:12:33 at least that's beyond my ability right now Feb 23 07:15:30 also, i hate to tell you this now, but you could add --disable-qt to EXTRA_OECONF Feb 23 07:16:14 or rather, --disable-qt4 Feb 23 07:17:18 ... >_< Feb 23 07:17:48 I assume in local.conf? Feb 23 07:18:01 in vlc-blahblah.bb Feb 23 07:18:03 or vlc.inc Feb 23 07:18:07 under recipes/vlc Feb 23 07:46:35 Still no luck with vlc Feb 23 07:47:00 was that a question or a statement? Feb 23 07:47:53 statement Feb 23 07:48:13 then you have my sympathies Feb 23 07:48:24 no luck here either, but I'm not giving up! Feb 23 08:28:26 * Romke mept tsjsieb Feb 23 08:29:05 james_l: built vlc-0.9.9, the newest version that doesn't depend on glibc-2.8 Feb 23 08:29:13 still seg faults :( Feb 23 08:29:35 I'm going to sleep, I'll tackle this tomorrow Feb 23 08:29:41 good night, and good luck Feb 23 08:30:29 night Feb 23 08:31:59 good morning people Feb 23 08:32:14 Dunno if this is the right place to ask my question Feb 23 08:32:57 But I'm running into a problem when trying to build angstrom Feb 23 08:33:07 I'm following the manual Feb 23 08:33:57 The build fails with a note: Feb 23 08:34:04 NOTE: Couldn't find shared library provider for libgcc_s.so.1 Feb 23 08:34:33 But when I look for that library it is installed Feb 23 08:35:28 Now, am I just doing something very wrong? Feb 23 08:36:56 I guess I am Feb 23 08:40:46 Romke! :D Feb 23 08:41:43 noez! it's alive! Feb 23 08:43:24 so, how you're doing? Feb 23 08:47:06 I'm fine, thnx :) and you started to use angstrom, nice! Feb 23 08:48:29 what guide are you following for building? Feb 23 08:51:09 http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/building-angstrom << this one Feb 23 08:51:14 on Ubuntu 9.10 Feb 23 08:51:42 on a Dell quadcore box, SMP enabled Feb 23 08:52:15 hehe, angstrom looked like a nice distro for my project, yes Feb 23 08:53:42 I've found this page, which exactly states my error message, but I don't quite understand which library it means Feb 23 08:54:46 The cross compiled version? Or the version on my system? Feb 23 09:02:09 What machine are you targeting Romke? Feb 23 09:02:56 An Atmel AT91SAM9G20 based board, Embed SBC6020 Feb 23 09:02:59 Embest* Feb 23 09:03:25 The CPU is pin compatible with the AT91SAM9260 Feb 23 09:03:48 So I figured I could use that one as the MACHINE in my local.conf Feb 23 09:04:05 Did you install the minimal required software for OE, according to http://wiki.openembedded.org/index.php/OEandYourDistro#Debian Feb 23 09:04:37 Yes, I did Feb 23 09:06:30 I also installed the packages in the Supplimentary packages section Feb 23 09:07:34 Romke: dunno if it helps you but i try to build angstrom on ubuntu but kernel wasn't bootable Feb 23 09:08:24 mkay Feb 23 09:08:49 personally i find ubuntu totally unusable for any compilation Feb 23 09:09:15 mkay Feb 23 09:09:28 I don't have that experience and recent ubuntu are very qualified for this purpose, as much as debian Feb 23 09:10:09 may be... last ubuntu i've ever tried was kubuntu 8.04 Feb 23 09:11:20 I'm using 9.10 at the moment, Ubuntu Feb 23 09:11:33 no KDE crap :P Feb 23 09:11:54 Romke, you might want to ask you question aswell in #oe as the question is probably more OpenEmbedded related, as Angstrom specific, and more people are active in that channel Feb 23 09:12:33 desktop environment is unimportant in this case Feb 23 09:12:46 ok, I'll bug the people in that channel then Feb 23 09:12:48 (usually, probably not now directly...) Feb 23 09:12:50 I know :) Feb 23 09:15:01 Romke: is your local.conf the standard angstrom local.conf that's in OE repository, ( With your own machine added) ? Feb 23 09:18:33 yes Feb 23 09:19:00 I'm literally following the instructions in the manual I spammed the URL of Feb 23 10:38:46 hi , can java app run on directfb ? swing and awt ? Feb 23 13:11:52 Anyone, may help me with PSPLASH, please? I installed psplash but the progress bar doesn't work, i looked at google but I didn't found anything about how to fix the progress bar. Feb 23 14:08:42 ricardo__, you may want to try the maillist Feb 23 14:53:20 hi all Feb 23 14:53:40 i need a little help, i'm trying to build an image for my n800 device Feb 23 14:53:52 but i think that the online builder is broken Feb 23 14:53:55 it fail to compile Feb 23 14:54:49 is there a stable (with driver) image that i can use? Feb 23 14:58:36 online builder doesnt compile Feb 23 14:58:46 but Id be surprised to get a working n8x0 image from it Feb 23 14:58:57 :) so no way? Feb 23 14:59:00 not work was ever done on those platforms due to the kernel mess Feb 23 14:59:24 no I mean the online build actually doesnt do any compilations, it uses compiled packages to build images Feb 23 14:59:34 :O ok Feb 23 14:59:41 should i compile from git? Feb 23 14:59:47 we need someone to take care of n8x0 support Feb 23 15:00:10 linux-omap dudes dont help be deleting all n8x0 support from kernel on regular basis Feb 23 15:00:50 Probably because it never seems to go mainline. Feb 23 15:00:51 :-/ Feb 23 15:03:30 uhm, i need a damn distro on my device cause i hate maemo :O Feb 23 15:03:38 Gaap: me too Feb 23 15:03:49 my n8x0 is now just a cheap GPS device Feb 23 15:04:08 :-/ Feb 23 15:05:13 archmobile project is died, NTdroid project too Feb 23 15:05:16 :-/ Feb 23 15:05:20 Mer has never worked Feb 23 15:05:35 archmobile is not dead Feb 23 15:05:40 no? Feb 23 15:05:56 i read that the last news are in 09/2009 Feb 23 15:06:16 I hang out in that IRC chan quite a bit, naeg is still updating and working on things as are the other devs Feb 23 15:06:23 /join #arch-arm Feb 23 15:06:28 :O ty man Feb 23 15:07:43 that's a good news, i'll try it Feb 23 15:08:48 cya Feb 23 16:11:47 the x11-gpe-image is gonna take a while :/ Feb 23 16:12:44 aye Feb 23 16:16:07 though it seems to be going faster than base-image did Feb 23 16:16:25 well once you built one image, the cross tools can be re-used Feb 23 16:16:55 yeah, I figured that Feb 23 16:54:18 hi guys, i'm getting the following error trying to compile a kernel module: arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-ld: unrecognized option '-Wl,-rpath-link,/home/edsiper/devenvs/wvds_gumstix/tmp/staging/armv7a-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/lib' Feb 23 16:54:44 looks like that recipe didnt inherit kernel-module Feb 23 16:54:48 seems like -rpath-link should be -rpath-link=/home... Feb 23 16:55:08 XorA it compiles the objects but when linking it fails Feb 23 16:55:33 oh, it's inherit module Feb 23 16:55:34 yeah, but I dont think those arguments should be passed to kernel compiles at all Feb 23 16:55:41 thats userspace stuff Feb 23 16:55:50 for a kernel module it oens't make sense to link to usr/lib Feb 23 16:55:52 you're right Feb 23 16:55:54 that's user space Feb 23 16:56:04 module.bbclass should blank those out Feb 23 16:57:09 i changed to kernel-module, trying agian Feb 23 16:57:11 *again Feb 23 16:57:25 it should be inherit module Feb 23 16:57:29 I was misremebering Feb 23 16:57:36 it was inherit module Feb 23 16:58:03 odd as that does unset CFLAGS CPPFLAGS CXXFLAGS LDFLAGS in do_compile Feb 23 16:58:07 dunno why it tries to link to userspace Feb 23 16:58:19 i overwrite do_compile Feb 23 16:58:24 will run the unset Feb 23 16:58:27 edsiper: why? Feb 23 16:58:50 XorA learn for a bad example :) Feb 23 16:59:38 it passed now :) , now i have other error Feb 23 16:59:40 thanks! Feb 23 17:02:13 how can i tell to bitbake to skip the modules_install step ? Feb 23 17:03:53 modules_install() { :} Feb 23 17:30:42 compiling my module i get the following error: | make: *** No rule to make target `modules_install'. Stop. Feb 23 17:30:53 what i am missing in my makefile ? Feb 23 17:31:06 it has the proper install section Feb 23 17:31:29 is something related to the kernel source used ? Feb 23 18:37:40 Woo I was able to build my full custom x11 image :) Feb 23 18:38:14 I wonder why it failed last time I tried Feb 23 18:38:43 well w/e I'm just glad it all worked, I'll be testing tonight :) Feb 23 18:49:43 jffs2_flush_wbuf(): Write failed with -5 Feb 23 18:49:43 Write of 3140 bytes at 0x07040718 failed. returned -5, retlen 0 Feb 23 18:49:43 Not marking the space at 0x07040718 as dirty because the flash driver returned retlen zero Feb 23 18:49:43 jffs2_flush_wbuf(): Write failed with -5 Feb 23 18:49:43 Write of 3140 bytes at 0x07020718 failed. returned -5, retlen 0 Feb 23 18:49:43 Not marking the space at 0x07020718 as dirty because the flash driver returned retlen zero Feb 23 18:49:56 what is that actually? Feb 23 18:56:23 /quit Feb 23 20:28:49 Wow, we seem to have created life here. :) Feb 23 20:30:32 heresy Feb 23 20:40:34 :) Feb 23 20:41:07 angstrom is totally underradted these days Feb 23 20:41:56 yeah, but wikipedia says the last stable release was in december 2007 Feb 23 20:53:28 I'm being urged to run Android instead of Angstrom. Feb 23 20:54:39 robtow: they both have their advantages Feb 23 20:55:21 Jonimus - so far I've been running Angstrom, on Beagleboards, for my project. Feb 23 20:55:38 USB has been a recurring problem, tho' Feb 23 20:55:46 yeah for a beagleboard I'd say angstrom would be better Feb 23 20:56:36 I'm getting a Gumstix "Fire"delivered tomorrow to conpare against Beagleboard. Feb 23 20:58:55 Romke, we need new viral marketing strategy Feb 23 20:59:55 robtow, only advantage of android is people love it Feb 23 21:00:55 dcordes - I haven't worked with Android as yet. Feb 23 21:01:35 robtow, the gui seems fast Feb 23 21:01:50 robtow, but it's the total java hell Feb 23 21:01:50 robtow: what driver does the usb use? Feb 23 21:02:06 hehe Feb 23 21:02:29 well, I'll have to do some work to get java running on angstrom i guess Feb 23 21:05:25 the begale board is solid enough to run nice X desktop Feb 23 21:05:47 there are angstrom images in openmebedded that provide an enelgihtenment environment Feb 23 21:05:52 i reommend building that image Feb 23 21:07:40 hehe Feb 23 21:07:48 i don't have to run X stuff Feb 23 21:08:01 thank god for that Feb 23 21:08:07 beagleboard-demo-image.bb Feb 23 21:08:08 i like the console :P Feb 23 21:08:39 I'll see what it's going to be Feb 23 21:08:43 I'd personally love for X to be working better. Feb 23 21:09:04 I haven't received a board yet :( Feb 23 21:09:43 james_l - I've hit three different USB drivers; one for wifi that works with one adapter; one that DOESN'T load with a second adapter ( but does work fine under Ubuntu), and a third for a camera. Feb 23 21:10:11 What's the host driver? Feb 23 21:10:51 james_l - can't say at the moment - whatever was in Koen's "demo" image. Feb 23 21:11:32 I noticed a problem with tmio-ohci (what tosa uses) and am hoping someone with a little more experience with dma/interrupts on arm has a problem or fix. (It should not take ~50% cpu to handle interrupts and not handle them properly from what I could tell) Feb 23 21:12:19 tmio? too much i/o? :P Feb 23 21:12:26 how many double precition floatingpoint operations u think an arm9 can stand at 433 mhz? what u guess? Feb 23 21:13:11 No, it's a particular driver, which as far as I can tell, is limited to toshiba parts. Feb 23 21:13:30 it was just a joke :) Feb 23 21:14:14 What kind of sucks is that it's merged into mainline, and changed to use the dma_*_coherent functions, which at least according to the several initial revisions prior to submission, the author states that it doesn't work with them. Feb 23 21:14:58 So, I have no clue, and I'm pretty sure that no one has compiled mainline for 2.6.32 or 2.6.33-rcs as there's a compile error for the tosa touchscreen. Feb 23 21:16:23 * james_l ponders replacing the interior of his tosa with a beagle board. Feb 23 22:00:03 james_l: between ponders, can you insert this one? my symlinks are still breaking when i untar a rootfs image onto my sd drive. they are broken when i untar on my local drive. are tehy just browkn to begin with or am i doing something i shouldnt? no fancy incantations, just 'target_directory$ tar xvf ball.tar' ??? Feb 23 22:00:11 typos sry Feb 24 00:13:42 Howdy Feb 24 00:15:30 I just built a collie image and I am wondering where do I get the file system? Feb 24 00:15:48 I only find the kernel under deploy Feb 24 00:19:18 Im using openembedded Feb 24 00:19:33 not narcissus Feb 24 00:50:41 fill: its in openembedded/builds iirc Feb 24 00:59:22 tmp/deploy/glibc/image/collie/ Feb 24 01:39:38 XorA, thanks for the dma tip Feb 24 01:39:48 it is helping, but still painful working all this out Feb 24 01:48:44 as soon as my sdcard is backed up I can test out my new image :) Feb 24 01:49:43 CF card I mean Feb 24 01:49:59 either way this will be my first home made image :) Feb 24 01:57:12 hey!!! i finally found a use for Angstr�m!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1O1iMKH746o Feb 24 02:04:12 Wooot Its alive :) Feb 24 02:04:27 My own custom angstrom image Lives!!!! Feb 24 02:04:43 And psplash is working for me :) Feb 24 02:05:01 * Jonimus jumps up and down like a little girl Feb 24 02:07:15 xD Feb 24 02:07:20 z Feb 24 02:07:22 gzu Feb 24 02:07:36 so the first thing u have to do is to deploy my app! Feb 24 02:07:42 ;P Feb 24 02:11:34 lol Seppoz well if your app is of any use on a h2200 sure Feb 24 02:11:46 but first I need to add stuff to my image, lirc for one Feb 24 02:11:58 Jominus: you mean oe/openembedded/builds? If so I dont have that yet. Feb 24 02:12:28 I have oe/build but not the other. Feb 24 02:12:48 maybe I still havent built anything yet. Feb 24 02:14:05 I followed the quickstart on the site at the Developers tab. Feb 24 02:14:29 noob Feb 24 02:14:53 btw Feb 24 02:15:47 jonimus: how's that image working for ya? Feb 24 02:17:05 kaz00: its kinda bare and useless atm :P Feb 24 02:17:13 but still it works which makes me happy Feb 24 02:17:40