**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Apr 08 02:59:56 2010 Apr 08 07:48:43 hello Apr 08 07:48:45 anyone awake? Apr 08 07:56:39 hello Apr 08 07:56:45 anyone here? Apr 08 08:01:24 no, there is nobody here.... Apr 08 08:18:08 Nobody at all. Apr 08 08:18:50 so i just got a beagle boarzd Apr 08 08:19:04 i can get it boot to gpe-dm Apr 08 08:19:17 but it fails to start enlightenment, something about a missing symbol Apr 08 08:19:24 i wonder what should i do? Apr 08 08:54:56 neure: I suspect you have a duff image of sorts then, missing symbol sort of implies your setup is suspect. Where did you get your image from? Apr 08 08:56:44 sdcard was in the box, "EBVBeagle" it says Apr 08 09:06:27 neure: I would suggest you grab something more recent for the Beagle or give the vendor a call, it's rather hard to tell what may be fucked up and know what image they used, did they mod it etc. Apr 08 09:06:39 well Apr 08 09:06:41 i need to use beagle Apr 08 09:06:47 but i wonder, how do i update this? Apr 08 09:07:11 i also seem to have trouble getting powervr drivers from ti, the download page doesnt seem to work :/ Apr 08 09:09:54 neure: so your trying to build your own image? If you get the power VR driver you still have to build them into an image. Apr 08 09:10:14 Anything wrong with trying to a rootfs from Narcissus? Apr 08 09:10:47 i havent tried anything else except the sdcard that came in the box Apr 08 09:11:03 i suppose i could try narcissus Apr 08 09:11:16 does it come with pvr stuff? Apr 08 09:11:40 Yep, if you select it. Apr 08 09:12:34 It's hard to know whats on your SD you see, if the latest images are working you could spend weeks trying to track down whats broken if your not happy with hunting bugs on Linux. Apr 08 09:42:20 well i tried to select it but instead of green checkmark i got red cross when it made the package for me :/ Apr 08 09:42:24 i dont know what that means Apr 08 13:21:04 Greetings! I'm new to angstrom, and after setting up the OE build env, and tried booting angstrom on a beagleboard, I want to removing 1 package from angstrom and rebuilding it with OE, to test OE. What files in the OE structure determine which packages are included in an angstrom build? Apr 08 13:22:28 what image are you building? Apr 08 13:23:44 Angstrom-base-image Apr 08 13:24:45 read the bb file for the image Apr 08 13:24:51 recipes/images Apr 08 13:27:09 Crofton: thanks! Apr 08 13:29:56 is http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/building-angstrom up to date? Apr 08 13:30:03 it says git checkout origin/stable/2009 -b stable/2009 Apr 08 13:30:10 its 2010 now, is there 2010 ? Apr 08 13:33:46 im following the steps but cd $PKGDIR Apr 08 13:33:46 fails Apr 08 13:33:58 -bash: cd: /home/timo/OE/build/: No such file or directory Apr 08 13:34:12 2010 is still in testing Apr 08 13:34:55 ok Apr 08 13:35:06 any ideas about that build dir? should i just mkdir it? Apr 08 13:35:13 or where should it come from? Apr 08 13:35:35 the is mkdir -p ${OETREE}/build/conf later Apr 08 13:40:01 "/proc/sys/vm/mmap_min_addr is not 0. This will cause problems with qemu so please fix the value (as root)." Apr 08 13:40:04 how do i fix that? Apr 08 13:41:13 echo 0 > /proc/sys/vm/mmap_min_addr as root Apr 08 13:42:06 thanks Apr 08 13:43:47 "Using dash as /bin/sh causes various subtle build problems, please use bash instead." Apr 08 13:43:52 whats the proper fix for that? Apr 08 13:50:38 !logs Apr 08 13:50:38 Channel logs for #angstrom are archived at: Apr 08 13:50:39 http://hentges.net/tmp/logs/irc/%23angstrom Apr 08 13:50:40 Live-logs are available at Apr 08 13:50:41 http://hentges.net/tmp/logs/irc/livelogs/%23angstrom.livelog Apr 08 13:50:43 See ?? help-logs for usage instructions Apr 08 14:31:23 neure, Don't use dash. Apr 08 14:32:30 neure, I guess your using ubuntu, so "sudo dpkg-reconfigure bash" Apr 08 14:32:48 Answer yes to use bash for /bin/sh Apr 08 14:36:49 what's the quick way to build a kernel configured the same as the default Ã¥ngström kernels? Apr 08 14:44:12 WAHa_06x36, For an approximation, copy the kernel config. Apr 08 14:46:21 from where? Apr 08 14:46:43 (also, what I want to do here is build a kernel with some more PM stuff in it with minimal pain) Apr 08 14:47:29 From the build tree Apr 08 14:48:10 If you have a working build, the config might also be in /boot Apr 08 14:49:57 back Apr 08 14:50:00 yes, indeed, ubuntu Apr 08 14:50:17 does that sudo dpkg-reconfigure bash make bash as sh? Apr 08 14:50:32 no, Apr 08 14:51:33 hi Apr 08 14:51:36 Yes, it you answer the questions right. Apr 08 14:51:53 it doesnt ask me any questions Apr 08 14:52:27 Hmm, maybe it's sudo dpkg-reconfigure dash then Apr 08 14:52:58 I'm trying to build SGX drivers for angstrom on a beagleboard, does anyone know where I need to place the OMAP35x_Graphics_SDK_setuplinux_3_00_00_06.bin file if I've setup my build environment with http://gitorious.org/angstrom/angstrom-setup-scripts? Apr 08 14:53:00 MWelchUK_work: only uImages in /boot. Apr 08 14:53:12 MWelchUK_work, that was it - thanks Apr 08 14:53:23 neure, np Apr 08 14:53:53 WAHa_06x36, Then you'll have to grab the config from the Build tree. Apr 08 14:54:38 WAHa_06x36, Unless /proc/config.gz exists Apr 08 14:54:55 that seems to exist. Apr 08 14:55:24 zcat /proc/config.gz > ~/defconfig Apr 08 14:56:38 would it be easier to crosscompile on the desktop or to build under Ã¥ngström? Apr 08 14:57:00 how long does it take to build Å? Apr 08 14:57:32 WAHa_06x36, Don't know - have you got a cross-compile environment setup or a compiler on you angstrom build? Apr 08 14:57:58 neure, Depends on image built and build machine. Apr 08 14:58:05 Ã¥nström has a compiler, and I usually have SOME ARM compiler lying around but I don't know how picky the kernel is? Apr 08 14:58:44 MWelch, beagleboard, 1 core in vmware from one year old macbook running windows.. Apr 08 14:58:46 WAHa_06x36, Up to you then. Apr 08 14:58:58 but roughly speaking.. an hour? Apr 08 14:59:18 At a guess, you may be up to a factor of 10 out. Apr 08 14:59:35 you mean it could take 12 hours?) Apr 08 14:59:41 Yup. Apr 08 15:00:16 okay, well, it should still be kind of ready tomorrow if i leave it running overnight Apr 08 15:00:23 1 core, VMware adds IO delays (or did when I built it), probably limited memory in the VM as well... Apr 08 15:00:43 yes Apr 08 15:01:14 only have only 368MB currently in Apr 08 15:01:29 could it actually fail because of that? Apr 08 15:01:49 what build system is this using? Apr 08 15:03:24 Dual core Pentium D, 2G Ram natively running Linux. Also build on my netbook, Atom 1.6GHz, probably 1G or so mem - though an X11 build on that probably takes about 36hours. Apr 08 15:04:11 Actually - maybe it's 20hours. Apr 08 15:04:31 eh Apr 08 15:04:40 remind me again why i want to do this?) Apr 08 15:04:51 i should be able to just use latest image, right? Apr 08 15:05:13 is there some package system i can just add compiler to existing Å system i have? Apr 08 15:05:29 "NOTE: Running task 4 of 2946 "' Apr 08 15:05:40 this is going to take some serious time :/ Apr 08 15:06:07 neure, It's probably about 4-5 hours from scratch on a good dual core. Apr 08 15:07:16 well, i have seriously limited things by running in low mem and single core Apr 08 15:07:17 Yup - It's faster after the first build - it doesn't need to rebuild the cross-compiler and native tools. Unless you kill the OE tmp directory. Apr 08 15:07:32 oops Apr 08 15:07:37 how much disc space a build needs? Apr 08 15:07:55 Which image are you trying to build? Apr 08 15:08:07 beagleboard Apr 08 15:08:18 That's the target, which image Apr 08 15:08:19 "MACHINE=beagleboard bitbake base-image ; MACHINE=beagleboard bitbake console-image x11-image" Apr 08 15:08:33 x11-image will probably use atleast 20G Apr 08 15:08:50 poor vmware is already pretty much halted Apr 08 15:09:07 :-) That's why I don't build on VMware. Apr 08 15:09:09 i did df on one shell and it's still not giving me an answer Apr 08 15:09:32 IO will be being hammered by the build. Apr 08 15:11:01 i have only 6.5G free on this vmware image Apr 08 15:11:10 this is so totally not going to work Apr 08 15:11:42 Kill the buid then - You might /just/ manage to build console-image in that. Apr 08 15:15:44 you'll need to use rm_work Apr 08 15:16:10 Crofton|work, How much does that save? Apr 08 15:16:53 loads Apr 08 15:17:08 it cleans the builds out of the tmp/work after they are packaged Apr 08 15:17:28 makes it hard to debug stuff though :) Apr 08 15:17:37 Does it have any impact on running a second build in the future? Apr 08 15:17:45 not really Apr 08 15:18:05 neure, That's probably a good option to try ^^^^ Apr 08 15:18:10 yeah Apr 08 15:18:18 building on vm works nice btw, but you have to assign enough space Apr 08 15:18:20 so Apr 08 15:18:32 ncCortana, is 386MB enough? Apr 08 15:18:34 (and enough cores left) Apr 08 15:18:37 haha Apr 08 15:18:43 for memory i mean Apr 08 15:18:51 i assigned 40GB Apr 08 15:18:55 how do i use rm_work? Apr 08 15:19:07 and 1564 mb of ram Apr 08 15:19:22 http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-devel/2007-September/001497.html Apr 08 15:19:35 add INHERIT += "rm_work" to local.conf Apr 08 15:20:37 how do i properly kill the build? Apr 08 15:20:55 i pressed ctrl-c once and then it kind of gave me impression it was stopping but then it resumed building next steps or something Apr 08 15:21:07 various threads need to finish Apr 08 15:21:24 now i pressed a number of times and i got back to prompt :) Apr 08 15:23:55 rebooting vmware with 2 cores and 1200 mem.. Apr 08 15:24:04 i dont know how much i can add hdd space though hmm Apr 08 15:32:56 crofton, could i just install gcc and run it directly on Å? Apr 08 15:49:35 hmm Apr 08 15:49:43 there already is INHERIT += " rm_work " in the config Apr 08 19:24:13 there's no way os compiling libgles-omap3 without compiling 1234 packages and generating tens of locales for each one? :\ Apr 08 19:27:04 iirc there is, but you still have to compile any dependencies Apr 08 19:30:26 I'd be happy if at least I don't have to generate tt_RU locale Apr 08 19:30:46 (nothing against you tt_RU people :) ) Apr 09 00:18:32 hi everybody! Apr 09 00:18:50 I am new to angstrom, and I have some questions Apr 09 00:19:20 once I have downloaded the openEmbedded environment Apr 09 00:19:57 how can I build the last version of angstrom, because OE allow me to build angstrom-2008 Apr 09 00:20:07 how can I check for new versions? Apr 09 00:21:10 please, could somebody answer this? Apr 09 00:22:11 klhugo: that's the latest version I think you'll find Apr 09 00:22:29 thanks ! =) Apr 09 00:22:52 and if I do a git pull in my OE dir Apr 09 00:23:15 and there is some other version of angstrom released Apr 09 00:23:30 will it be downloaded from OE repository? Apr 09 00:23:34 anyway Apr 09 00:23:40 doesn't matter Apr 09 00:23:41 =) Apr 09 00:23:43 thanks! **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Apr 09 02:59:56 2010