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Apr 09 05:41:25 <neure> hmm
Apr 09 05:41:38 <neure> console build took 393 minutes
Apr 09 05:41:56 <neure> nearly 7 hours
Apr 09 05:51:50 <neure> so now what?
Apr 09 05:51:56 <neure> i've built the image, where is it now?
Apr 09 06:07:51 <neure> morning
Apr 09 06:22:21 <JaMa> deploy dir
Apr 09 06:44:44 <neure> okay..
Apr 09 06:54:49 <neure> hmm
Apr 09 06:55:10 <neure> i need to format my brand new sd card first
Apr 09 07:38:23 <azariah2> What's a good way to get an overview of the structure and dependencies of base-image? Are there any nice graphs of the main parts of angstrom somewhere?
Apr 09 10:42:30 <neure> hmm
Apr 09 10:42:36 <neure> so i got my image built
Apr 09 10:42:41 <neure> how do i put it to sdcard?
Apr 09 10:46:14 <JaMa> cd /media/card; tar xzvf /path/to/image/image.tar.gz
Apr 09 10:47:41 <neure> erm
Apr 09 10:47:50 <neure> do i need to use fdisk etc?
Apr 09 10:48:02 <neure> as in http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardBeginners#Development_with_.C3.85ngstr.C3.B6m
Apr 09 10:49:47 <MWelchUK_work> neure, you will definitely need to uncompress that as root as the tar contains device nodes.
Apr 09 10:50:06 <neure> what about partitioning etc?
Apr 09 10:50:20 <MWelchUK_work> One partition is fine.
Apr 09 10:50:32 <neure> okay so that part is unnecessary and outdated?
Apr 09 10:50:45 <MWelchUK_work> Infact, the fstab probably expects a single partition.
Apr 09 10:51:06 <MWelchUK_work> neure, how do you mean?
Apr 09 10:52:00 <neure> well that page mentions going through fdisk and computing cylinders etc.
Apr 09 10:52:14 <MWelchUK_work> Which page?
Apr 09 10:52:35 <neure> ^^ elinux.org
Apr 09 10:52:46 <MWelchUK_work> Ah, just spotted that!
Apr 09 10:53:09 <neure> damn gotta go
Apr 09 10:53:09 <neure> bbl
Apr 09 10:55:24 <MWelchUK_work> Huh, you probably do need to do that. It's beagleboard specific I guess.
Apr 09 11:39:31 <nazgee> hi there
Apr 09 11:46:22 <nazgee> I am playing with BB clone (IGEPv2) and Anstrom on top of it for some time now. I've managed to bitbake some different rootfs'es, applied few patches, etc. I even managed to configure eclipse to index kernel symbols, and developed few dummy modules for my kernel. I'd like to get into developing some userspace apps, and I have some doubts.
Apr 09 11:46:43 <nazgee> What is the correct way to force hand-made application to include correct kernel-headers (and maybe other apps headers)?
Apr 09 11:47:15 <nazgee> Is there any "right way" to do it? To compile userspace app against headers of my boards rootfs?
Apr 09 11:47:45 <nazgee> Or is it rather a "do as you wish" method?
Apr 09 11:48:53 <MWelchUK_work> nazgee, User space applications shouldn't need board specific kernel headers.
Apr 09 11:53:09 <nazgee> MWelchUK_work: So it is cross-compiler's responsibility to take care of all the details, right?
Apr 09 11:54:55 <nazgee> I have no problem with building kernel-modules against right kernel - this seems straightforward, and I'd be more than happy if choosing the right ARCH and CC would take care of includes.
Apr 09 11:54:56 <MWelchUK_work> My knowledge is a little limited on that front, but I believe that is correct.
Apr 09 11:56:23 <MWelchUK_work> nazgee, you might need some DEPENDS if it needs non-standard libraries, it will also depend on how cross-comile friendly you makefile is.
Apr 09 12:00:55 <nazgee> Ok. That was what I thought, as building simple apps prooved to end up successfully. I'll give it a try, and get back if something goes wrong.
Apr 09 12:00:59 <nazgee> MWelchUK_work: Thanks
Apr 09 12:01:12 <MWelchUK_work> np
Apr 09 12:17:57 <neure> when i connect usb sdcard reader to ubuntu running in vmware, where should i see the device?
Apr 09 12:37:06 <nazgee> neure: Have you configured vmware to make it see this SD card?
Apr 09 12:37:56 <nazgee> If you're using SD reader on USB, you should try to enable this specific device under VM
Apr 09 12:38:20 <nazgee> In virtual box you do it under image preferences
Apr 09 12:42:47 <neure> yes
Apr 09 12:42:49 <neure> i got it formatted now
Apr 09 12:42:56 <neure> using the instructions there
Apr 09 12:43:05 <neure> i got virtual box bluescreen 
Apr 09 12:43:10 <neure> so i'm staying with vmware
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