**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Sep 18 02:59:57 2010 Sep 18 19:24:17 !logs Sep 18 19:24:18 Channel logs for #angstrom are archived at: Sep 18 19:24:19 http://hentges.net/tmp/logs/irc/%23angstrom Sep 18 19:24:20 Live-logs are available at Sep 18 19:24:25 http://hentges.net/tmp/logs/irc/livelogs/%23angstrom.livelog Sep 18 19:24:27 See ?? help-logs for usage instructions Sep 19 00:41:29 hey is there a better windows syste than enlightem? Sep 19 00:41:35 system Sep 19 00:41:44 in ANgstrong distro? Sep 19 00:45:55 xfce4 Sep 19 00:46:32 but enlightment is quicker right? Sep 19 00:46:46 less resource expensive I mean .. Sep 19 00:51:25 no Sep 19 00:51:47 xfce is more minimalistic Sep 19 00:52:19 well but at least... xfce is > than gnome in terms of resources right? Sep 19 00:52:30 gnome is really slow on a BB Sep 19 00:52:31 ofc Sep 19 00:52:33 fluxbox Sep 19 00:52:40 is of course the best choice Sep 19 00:53:06 flusbox? well listen the only thing I need is a desktop capable of displayng some video in mplayer Sep 19 00:53:08 ^^ Sep 19 00:53:20 mplayer Sep 19 00:53:24 dont need desktop Sep 19 00:53:30 ???? Sep 19 00:53:30 :P Sep 19 00:53:32 -vo aa ? xD Sep 19 00:53:44 command line capable yes Sep 19 00:53:46 or something like that it was Sep 19 00:53:49 so is xine Sep 19 00:53:51 u cant play in a console mode right? u see nothing Sep 19 00:54:02 yes i can Sep 19 00:54:03 you can Sep 19 00:54:07 it needs framebuffer Sep 19 00:54:20 maybe vlc also Sep 19 00:54:24 i havent checked Sep 19 00:54:53 yeah I know but u are going to see nothing in a desktopless environment right? Sep 19 00:55:03 but fluxbox is the smallest window manager thats still reasonable Sep 19 00:55:13 no u see the video Sep 19 00:55:18 ofc you see something Sep 19 00:55:20 just make sure framebuffer Sep 19 00:55:46 and w3m is capable browser with image support Sep 19 00:55:53 command line Sep 19 00:56:01 mplayer even has a ascii arts option :D Sep 19 00:56:06 lol ^ Sep 19 00:56:27 can u run ... ermm for example firefox? Sep 19 00:56:33 i think they use that in movie "insecurity" when they hacking on slackware machine Sep 19 00:56:43 on fluxbox sure Sep 19 00:56:50 from command line sorta Sep 19 00:57:02 hmm ok Sep 19 00:57:13 would need to customize a script to start xorg with only firefox Sep 19 00:57:46 is there a vsftp package somewhere in the angstrom repo ? Sep 19 00:57:58 i got ipaq 4350 soon i hope to have angstrom on the SD card Sep 19 00:58:12 i have in liveramfs but no fun so slow and not permanent Sep 19 00:59:05 im working on a beagleboard Sep 19 00:59:18 cool Sep 19 00:59:34 got a busted one for 10Eur Sep 19 00:59:41 ^^ Sep 19 00:59:52 wow good price Sep 19 00:59:57 just had to change the powersupply chips Sep 19 00:59:59 whats the channel for narciussus? Sep 19 00:59:59 i got busted ipaq for 15 euro Sep 19 01:00:08 no wifi ipaq Sep 19 01:00:22 so i try to fix with linux. i think only driver in windows Sep 19 01:00:23 haha Sep 19 01:00:25 lucky Sep 19 01:00:40 maybe Sep 19 01:00:54 ^^ waited 2 months for those chips Sep 19 01:01:04 ti is a bit behind on production Sep 19 01:01:15 i want a openpandora Sep 19 01:01:22 wait for that forever Sep 19 01:01:22 i have one :P Sep 19 01:01:27 dual sd slots Sep 19 01:01:33 10h battery Sep 19 01:01:41 omg how much was it? Sep 19 01:01:50 250EUR Sep 19 01:01:56 i ordered back then Sep 19 01:01:58 shipped to usa because of VAT its like yea 250eur Sep 19 01:02:17 so much Sep 19 01:02:30 im in germany ;) Sep 19 01:02:35 think they ever lower price Sep 19 01:02:44 im in usa near boston Sep 19 01:02:51 not in the near future Sep 19 01:03:01 can go visit GNU if i wanted so close Sep 19 01:03:02 its 300EUR atm Sep 19 01:03:06 o.o Sep 19 01:03:23 ebay price is somewhere about 450EUR Sep 19 01:03:27 yea Sep 19 01:03:37 seen sell for 1100 usd Sep 19 01:03:42 ebay Sep 19 01:03:45 yeah Sep 19 01:03:55 but i think some of them where fake bids Sep 19 01:03:56 :( Sep 19 01:04:05 maybe Sep 19 01:04:25 maybe 2-3 years i can afford it Sep 19 01:04:31 sell my pc or something Sep 19 01:04:32 haha Sep 19 01:04:38 xD Sep 19 01:04:45 work :D Sep 19 01:04:52 till then 25$ ipaq Sep 19 01:05:14 yea work = less hack time too though Sep 19 01:05:20 lol Sep 19 01:05:28 yeah xD Sep 19 01:05:43 maybe thats why i have so much problems with my beagleboard Sep 19 01:05:51 i dont get the software part xD Sep 19 01:06:31 lol Sep 19 01:06:36 ya Sep 19 01:07:00 how nice is the game pad on pandora? Sep 19 01:07:07 good for emulator games Sep 19 01:07:22 yeah Sep 19 01:07:22 usualy hard to play them Sep 19 01:07:35 hmm Sep 19 01:07:36 its one of the best dpads i had on a mobile device Sep 19 01:08:09 i had it for 1 week now Sep 19 01:08:33 dont like the nubs that much Sep 19 01:08:43 but i dont plan to use them much anyways Sep 19 01:09:08 yea Sep 19 01:09:13 dpad is good Sep 19 01:09:16 like nes Sep 19 01:09:17 :D Sep 19 01:09:47 supertux with a dpad Sep 19 01:09:48 lol Sep 19 01:12:20 how long does the battery last using wifi Sep 19 01:12:48 havent got it empty yet Sep 19 01:13:02 very nice Sep 19 01:13:15 its on 6:30 now Sep 19 01:13:48 at 50% with wifi on Sep 19 01:14:02 o.o Sep 19 01:14:25 is it feasable to browse ebay on it without page scrolling? Sep 19 01:14:32 normal page sizes? Sep 19 01:16:13 works quite well Sep 19 01:16:39 have to do a bit sidescrolling Sep 19 01:17:10 nubs are handy for surfing Sep 19 01:17:14 ah nice Sep 19 01:17:25 forgot about those Sep 19 01:18:35 you can view the preview picture, price and remaining time without sidescrolling Sep 19 01:18:46 in a search Sep 19 01:19:12 ahh good enough Sep 19 01:19:54 you seen the nanonote? Sep 19 01:20:36 you know wejp ? Sep 19 01:20:50 i think the nanonote is lacking. it would be ideal with 256mb ram Sep 19 01:20:56 nope Sep 19 01:21:17 ooo Sep 19 01:21:18 ok Sep 19 01:21:23 hes written a music player for the gp2x and the dingoo Sep 19 01:21:40 and seems the zipit z2 Sep 19 01:21:50 http://wejp.k.vu/ Sep 19 01:21:53 he got a nanonote for porting his musicplayer :D Sep 19 01:22:15 he told me all about it ;) Sep 19 01:22:18 http://zipit.rootnexus.org/ Sep 19 01:22:24 this project too ^ Sep 19 01:22:41 i bought ipaq 4350 instead of zipit z2 Sep 19 01:22:47 better specs slightly Sep 19 01:23:19 ^^ Sep 19 01:23:33 i have enough mobile devices for now Sep 19 01:23:40 this my first one Sep 19 01:23:44 ever Sep 19 01:24:00 i dont even like cellphones Sep 19 01:24:18 i had two smartphones Sep 19 01:24:28 bit with winmobile Sep 19 01:24:42 didnt like them that much Sep 19 01:25:01 yea win mobile 2003 in the ipaq Sep 19 01:25:05 its ok not horrible Sep 19 01:25:16 but certainly a microsoft failure Sep 19 01:25:27 buggy Sep 19 01:25:30 but works Sep 19 01:25:40 yeah Sep 19 01:25:57 bugs are inexcusable m$ Sep 19 01:26:02 face it :D Sep 19 01:26:11 always had problems with wlan and bluetooth Sep 19 01:26:22 yea wlan wont work on this Sep 19 01:26:30 but it shows up in linux Sep 19 01:26:37 i havent tested yet no wifi at home Sep 19 01:27:28 a home without wifi ? something like that exists ? Sep 19 01:27:34 xD Sep 19 01:27:40 i dont trust wifi from home Sep 19 01:27:46 but to use it mobile sure Sep 19 01:27:53 home no thx Sep 19 01:28:17 hm im not that paranoid xD Sep 19 01:28:21 lol Sep 19 01:28:35 i consider myself not worth spying on xD Sep 19 01:28:41 haha Sep 19 01:28:50 i wish i could say the same Sep 19 01:28:57 im into computer forensics Sep 19 01:29:01 aka hacker tracking Sep 19 01:29:03 :P Sep 19 01:29:07 ^^ Sep 19 01:29:17 im more into hardware hacking Sep 19 01:29:27 mm hardware is fun Sep 19 01:29:33 but not as exciting Sep 19 01:30:14 i would find it exciting if proftpd on my beagleboard would work like i want it to Sep 19 01:30:44 try tftp? Sep 19 01:30:52 no package Sep 19 01:31:03 would have to bitbake that Sep 19 01:31:04 scp? Sep 19 01:31:18 and i dont really get how to do that xD Sep 19 01:31:28 quite the noob in embedded stuff Sep 19 01:31:29 just a ssh acount Sep 19 01:31:36 ssh and scp same Sep 19 01:32:05 well ssh works out of the box Sep 19 01:33:17 omg wejp's amplifier is very impressive Sep 19 01:33:44 hes good at that electronic stuff lol im only good at knowing what it does not building it Sep 19 01:35:06 ^^ Sep 19 01:35:32 well i just got my bachelors degree at electrical engineering ;) Sep 19 01:35:42 nice Sep 19 01:35:56 i took electronics in school for 1 year Sep 19 01:36:02 then switched to programming Sep 19 01:36:37 dont really know the american schoolsystem Sep 19 01:36:46 eh vocational school Sep 19 01:36:50 not normal one Sep 19 01:36:54 ah Sep 19 01:36:56 teach a trade Sep 19 01:38:28 whatever that is xD Sep 19 01:40:19 eh like woodworking, or metal fabrication Sep 19 01:40:22 trades Sep 19 01:42:39 cah Sep 19 01:42:43 ah Sep 19 01:44:11 well i will go to bed now... its almost 0400 Sep 19 01:46:51 night Sep 19 01:46:58 10pm here almost **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Sep 19 02:59:56 2010