**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Oct 24 02:59:58 2010 Oct 24 11:45:26 Just read the angstrom home page and see it says site has been slashdotted??? Oct 24 11:46:05 just my luck i ebay a h2200 this weekend :( Oct 24 11:46:34 has anyone thought of removing the android download and putting up a bittorrent tracker link instead?? Oct 24 11:47:18 then I could get my h2200 build Oct 24 11:49:14 your build? Oct 24 11:49:22 isnt your build on your hd? Oct 24 11:49:38 no i used narcissus Oct 24 11:50:10 but then maybe the slashdot link is using narcissus?? Oct 24 11:51:19 I got my first ipaq this weekend and want to develop some midi somftware Oct 24 11:52:34 but i need to get a development environment, and looked like narcissus would build one for me? Oct 24 11:55:22 so its not your build ;) Oct 24 11:55:41 you want to grab a narcissus image :) it's been slow for ages Oct 24 11:57:12 I just looked at slashdot and i dont see any links to http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/ on the frontpage????? Oct 24 11:57:31 me neither Oct 24 11:58:06 'being slashdotted' doesnt necessairly point to slashdot though Oct 24 11:58:17 is there a secret download site for uber newbies like me to get high speed access?? Oct 24 11:58:26 no :) Oct 24 11:58:59 newbs should show patience :) Oct 24 11:59:08 yeah i forget 'slashdotted' is a generic term now Oct 24 11:59:14 or grab someone's premade image from wherever Oct 24 11:59:57 any clues on location of h2200 images elsewhere? Oct 24 12:00:03 i have tried googling Oct 24 12:00:10 no i have never heard about the h2200 Oct 24 12:00:52 there are 2007.12 images on http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/taxonomy/term/6 Oct 24 12:01:00 it a very old ipaq, they seem to be going for £15-20 on ebay thesedays Oct 24 12:01:18 i will check your link thanks Oct 24 12:01:20 narcissus just works here btw Oct 24 12:01:37 that link was the result of googling on 'angstrom h2200 image' first hit Oct 24 12:01:51 narcissus is kinda always this slow Oct 24 12:02:02 the h2200 uses a pxa255 which should be a armv5te as far as i can tell Oct 24 12:02:30 and it's not saying _they_ are slashdotted Oct 24 12:02:32 read : The server angstrom is hosted on is also hosting some popular android downloads that are sucking up all the bandwidth :( Oct 24 12:03:20 I get 1k/s dropping to 0k/s from the narcissus dowload Oct 24 12:04:27 yeah they say they are out of bandwidth :) Oct 24 12:04:40 1kb/s is more than 0 ;) Oct 24 12:04:50 i just ordered a ARMv5TEJ :D Oct 24 12:05:23 seagate dockstar ;) 40 euros on ebay, 1.2ghz :D Oct 24 12:06:33 ebay is great sometimes Oct 24 12:06:51 appereantly, its a pretty default price for the device Oct 24 12:07:05 i get to use all the gadgets i lusted after 5 years ago for pennies Oct 24 12:07:48 and avoid the bleeding edge Oct 24 12:08:58 strange that i find virtually no information about midi and music development for older ipaqs though Oct 24 12:11:21 yeah nobody is crazy enough ;) Oct 24 12:11:35 there is 'pd4all' which should be able to compile for stuff like ipaqs Oct 24 12:11:46 you could use that to send midi or other stuff over network Oct 24 12:12:19 and i think i had some kind of tracker like fasttracker for windows CE once Oct 24 12:14:10 there are some full music environments for ppc like griff, and there was a midi interface that used serial port Oct 24 12:15:30 but if linux supports usb on ipaq then I should be able to use a standard usb to midi interface Oct 24 12:16:43 well i'm not sure old ipaqs support usbhost :) Oct 24 12:17:05 that is what i am wondering??? Oct 24 12:17:20 did you google it? Oct 24 12:18:14 briefly, I did find some chat logs suggesting usbhost was not supported, but nothing seemed conclusive Oct 24 12:18:31 i may be on a wild goose chase?? Oct 24 12:18:43 but i thought i had to try Oct 24 12:19:13 doesnt seem to be any usb host support on it, no Oct 24 12:19:26 iirc handhelds.org has a lot of this kind of info aswell Oct 24 12:19:49 on familiar 0.8.4 there is an app thet seems to list usbdevices Oct 24 12:19:51 http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/ZWiki/wiki/HpIpaqH2200 Oct 24 12:20:23 http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HpIpaqH2200\ Oct 24 12:20:28 eh without the last \ Oct 24 12:21:39 hmm Oct 24 12:21:46 seems some versions do support usbhost Oct 24 12:22:37 there is a tick by the usb to host, it should support usb Oct 24 12:23:14 _to_ host Oct 24 12:23:24 eg, using the device as a usb client Oct 24 12:23:30 but is there a difference between being a master and client? Oct 24 12:23:51 yes big difference Oct 24 12:23:59 read up on USB before actually using it :D Oct 24 12:25:17 but it still does not seem conclusive, just because it says 'to host' dont mean it does not support controlling the usb bus? Oct 24 12:25:44 i should read up on usb, but that would take maybe too long :( Oct 24 12:26:19 i suppose i should find the low level hardware spec, see what usb controller it uses? Oct 24 12:29:06 the hardware spec is on the last link i posted Oct 24 12:29:21 it says some versions of the videochip support usbhost Oct 24 12:32:44 SD and USB device support (USB Host support available in MQ1188) Oct 24 12:33:15 now i need to find if my h2200 has MQ1188?? Oct 24 12:33:32 yeah, look in dmesg ;) Oct 24 12:33:44 why search for problems before you hit them :D Oct 24 12:42:17 well i get the feeling I will have to open up the case to check if its the MQ1188?? Oct 24 12:44:27 dmesg only lists graphics as mq11xx Oct 24 12:44:53 and 'cat /proc/devices' dont show much more Oct 24 14:10:20 i wonder if angstrom dont like europeans downloading? Oct 24 14:10:21 moopy: i have no idea :D Oct 24 14:11:03 i think there maybe some bandwidth throttling? Oct 24 14:11:44 no, you found the exact reason already, it just didn't sink in Oct 24 14:11:49 i pasted it again later ;) Oct 24 14:19:07 i am getting 15k/s download if i proxy through an am Oct 24 14:19:14 erican server Oct 24 14:19:53 i think i have lost the thread somewhere? Oct 24 14:22:36 !logs Oct 24 14:22:36 Channel logs for #angstrom are archived at: Oct 24 14:22:37 http://hentges.net/tmp/logs/irc/%23angstrom Oct 24 14:22:38 Live-logs are available at Oct 24 14:22:40 http://hentges.net/tmp/logs/irc/livelogs/%23angstrom.livelog Oct 24 14:22:42 See ?? help-logs for usage instructions Oct 24 14:47:14 are there standard kernel compile configs available for the ipaq h2200? Oct 24 14:47:39 try google :D Oct 24 14:48:52 (no i dont see any) Oct 24 14:49:52 there might be a defconfig inside the kernel though Oct 24 15:23:48 i like that lots of doc seem to say LAB must be used to boot linux on h2200, but in reality all that is needed is haret? Oct 24 15:25:08 i suppose there are no maintainers for the docs and most stuff is 3-4 years old Oct 24 15:25:25 i would go by the doc that still has working download links ;) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Oct 25 02:59:57 2010