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May 17 06:35:59 <CIA-59> angstrom: 03Koen Kooi <koen@dominion.thruhere.net> 07master * r66e81f16b6 10meta-angstrom/conf/distro/include/angstrom-core-tweaks.inc: 
May 17 06:35:59 <CIA-59> angstrom: angstrom core tweaks: set LICENSE_DIRECTORY to avoid multimachine breakage
May 17 06:35:59 <CIA-59> angstrom: From http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-core/2011-May/002535.html:
May 17 06:35:59 <CIA-59> angstrom:  "Diffing the do_populate_lic task, it shows DEPLOY_DIR_IMAGE has a
May 17 06:35:59 <CIA-59> angstrom:  dependency on the MACHINE variable so its correctly rerunning the task
May 17 06:35:59 <CIA-59> angstrom:  for that reason."
May 17 06:36:00 <CIA-59> angstrom: Signed-off-by: Koen Kooi <koen@dominion.thruhere.net>
May 17 09:38:12 <jsteel> Hi, I followed the howto on this site http://www.oliford.co.uk/hpipaq214/moinBasicCopy/hpipaq214Downloads.html which uses the Angstrom Distro, but it's quite dated. I went to download the latest from your website but my device is not listed. It's an HP iPAQ 214. I wonder how this guy got it working? Tried to contact him with no reply. Thanks
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May 17 14:39:46 <alan_o> Hi, I feel like I'm missing something simple. I built a task-boot filesystem from Narcissus, and I'm using my own kernel. I get the boot messages from the kernel, but I get nothing from init. No console, and no errors or anything.
May 17 14:40:36 <alan_o> I've tried it a bunch of different ways. I set the init= kernel param correctly
May 17 14:41:13 <alan_o> also tried the symlink from /linuxrc to /sbin/init (since the bootloader wants to use /linuxrc by default)
May 17 14:41:26 <alan_o> Also tried having it load busybox init.
May 17 14:41:30 <alan_o> that gave different problems
May 17 14:41:49 <alan_o> busybox init said it couldn't mount the root fs and halted
May 17 14:42:23 <alan_o> The kernel can definitely read the root filesystem because it can find sysvinit and busybox.
May 17 16:11:55 <CIA-59> angstrom: 03testlab <testlab@angstrom> 07yocto * r82c71cb769 10testlab/beagleboard/console-image/ (4 files): beagleboard: console-image configured for angstrom v2011.05-core using branch master and revision d642f7e42ed588046c899dfac228628dcac83b6e
May 17 17:12:17 <CIA-59> angstrom: 03testlab <testlab@angstrom> 07yocto * r9e93798f39 10testlab/omap4430_panda/console-image/ (4 files): omap4430-panda: console-image configured for angstrom v2011.05-core using branch master and revision d642f7e42ed588046c899dfac228628dcac83b6e
May 17 17:17:52 <aarkest> Is there someone i can ask something about building modphp?
May 17 17:44:55 <alan_o> anyone around?
May 17 17:52:02 <Strife89> Barely.
May 17 20:48:57 * Strife89 struggles to figure out why bitbake keeps uncovering parsing problems
May 17 21:02:42 * CcSsNET strugles to figure out why a project would like bitbake
May 17 21:12:59 <Strife89> Is the iPAQ hx4700 even still considered "supported"?
May 17 21:13:43 <CcSsNET> uhm
May 17 21:13:44 <bluelightning> Strife89: I'd love to say yes... I'm one of the few people still involved with angstrom that considers those kinds of devices worth supporting
May 17 21:13:51 <CcSsNET> doubt it, i got the ipaq 4350
May 17 21:14:15 <CcSsNET> and ive been strugling for months off and on. its not a big focus but when i do try stuff its never easy
May 17 21:14:22 <bluelightning> the thing iPAQs desperately need is someone to push the appropriate kernel changes to mainline
May 17 21:14:40 <CcSsNET> intel xscale cpu specificly
May 17 21:15:20 <CcSsNET> bluelightning, have u seen linaro?
May 17 21:15:36 <bluelightning> CcSsNET: I'm aware of it
May 17 21:15:37 <CcSsNET> i was going to look into that soon. gasp, it doesnt use bitbake!
May 17 21:15:40 * CcSsNET cheers for joy
May 17 21:15:59 <bluelightning> bitbake isn't that bad
May 17 21:16:04 <bluelightning> it's hugely powerful, for one
May 17 21:16:04 <CcSsNET> o man...
May 17 21:16:20 <Strife89> bluelightning: I have had zero luck in getting a rootfs package to boot.
May 17 21:16:24 <CcSsNET> its hugely under documented on the angstrom site for 2
May 17 21:16:31 <CcSsNET> but i learned it
May 17 21:16:32 <Strife89> Except for the 2007.12 .img
May 17 21:16:37 <Strife89> Which is useless.
May 17 21:16:58 <bluelightning> most free/open source software projects suffer from lack of documentation
May 17 21:17:08 <CcSsNET> strife89, ive had luck booting, but my kernel or init fails me
May 17 21:17:08 <bluelightning> it's because most developers don't find it fun to write
May 17 21:17:09 <CcSsNET> :)
May 17 21:17:24 <CcSsNET> yea documentation takes time
May 17 21:17:42 <bluelightning> I spent years helping write documents for handhelds.org... only to see the site stagnate and eventually go offline
May 17 21:17:49 <Strife89> :/
May 17 21:17:52 <CcSsNET> :-/
May 17 21:17:59 <CcSsNET> anyone have a backup of that site?
May 17 21:18:03 <CcSsNET> it was usefulll....
May 17 21:18:03 * Strife89 has helped write a few docs for Rockbox, but that's it.
May 17 21:18:05 <bluelightning> I sure hope so
May 17 21:18:39 <CcSsNET> speaking of rockbox
May 17 21:18:49 <CcSsNET> i bought a generic mp3 player from hong kong
May 17 21:18:58 <CcSsNET> it may have rockbox in it. not sure yet
May 17 21:19:19 <Strife89> A "generic player"?
May 17 21:19:26 <Strife89> Yeah, good luck.
May 17 21:19:37 <CcSsNET> well the usual hong kong lack of paper trail devices
May 17 21:19:40 <CcSsNET> :P
May 17 21:19:56 <CcSsNET> its a nice player
May 17 21:20:00 <Strife89> Supported devices are on Rockbox's home page ;)
May 17 21:20:03 <CcSsNET> thats yet another thing on my to hack list
May 17 21:21:12 <Strife89> Final boot attempt of the day. ... This time, with OPIE
May 17 21:21:21 <CcSsNET> nice
May 17 21:21:50 <Strife89> Praying it works ...
May 17 21:21:53 <CcSsNET> i think i got console to boot the easiest. or furthest. but im fairly sure an app or init script failed me. it locks up
May 17 21:22:13 <Strife89> "Warning: unable to open an initial console"
May 17 21:22:28 <Strife89> Foiled again. Third time in a row with this message.
May 17 21:22:34 <CcSsNET> :-/
May 17 21:22:45 <CcSsNET> you are editing the /etc/fstab right prior booting?
May 17 21:22:51 <CcSsNET> and /etc/mtab
May 17 21:22:52 <Strife89> Er ...
May 17 21:23:03 <CcSsNET> and anything else u need in init scripts changed
May 17 21:23:03 <Strife89> No, I didn't know I was supposed to ...
May 17 21:23:13 <CcSsNET> angstrom is a do it yourself distro
May 17 21:23:14 <Strife89> ....
May 17 21:23:18 <bluelightning>  /etc/mtab is not a file you need to edit, it's produced on the fly
May 17 21:23:20 <CcSsNET> yea it lacks documentation
May 17 21:23:23 <CcSsNET> i learned myself
May 17 21:23:23 <Strife89> Ah, well ...
May 17 21:23:41 <Strife89> I'm still relatively new to Linux in general.
May 17 21:23:48 <Strife89> .... Maybe I should quit
May 17 21:23:57 <CcSsNET> ah mtab ive seen static on some situations, maybe not angstrom specific though
May 17 21:24:54 <CcSsNET> well a proper /etc/fstab should certainly get u moving forward. but from there forward i havent progressed myself
May 17 21:25:11 <CcSsNET> ipaqs are anoying to keep reseting
May 17 21:25:12 <CcSsNET> lol
May 17 21:25:23 <Strife89> I have no idea what a proper fstab should be
May 17 21:25:49 <CcSsNET> ehm. what is your current installed method for angstrom?
May 17 21:25:54 <CcSsNET> sd card or cf?
May 17 21:26:00 <Strife89> SD card
May 17 21:26:04 <CcSsNET> ok
May 17 21:26:11 <Strife89> Using HaRET 0.5.2 to boot
May 17 21:26:14 <CcSsNET> 1 minute ill pastebin my etc/fstab
May 17 21:27:07 <Jonimus> heh I should pull out my h2200's and mess with them some more
May 17 21:27:24 <Jonimus> I actually was able to get LABBoot on one of them
May 17 21:27:29 <CcSsNET> rebooting to linux to access my SD brb
May 17 21:27:54 <CcSsNET> LABBoot?
May 17 21:28:20 <Jonimus> basically it allows me to totally remove the need for WinCE
May 17 21:28:28 <CcSsNET> o thats a plus
May 17 21:28:32 <CcSsNET> and one of my goals
May 17 21:28:34 <CcSsNET> :)
May 17 21:28:37 * Strife89 has no desire to flash
May 17 21:28:43 <Jonimus> it only supports like 3 devices though
May 17 21:28:50 <CcSsNET> o, i do wish to reflash it eventually
May 17 21:28:53 <Jonimus> the ipaq h2200's being one of them
May 17 21:29:16 <Jonimus> really if the LIRC fixes could be ported to a newer kernel I could finally use this thing for something
May 17 21:29:49 <CcSsNET> i would love to IRC from my ipaq
May 17 21:29:58 <CcSsNET> could retire this P3
May 17 21:30:11 <CcSsNET> OS: Linux 2.6.38.2-grsec-pax-CcSs/i686 - CPU: Pentium III (Coppermine) (597.066 MHz) - Processes: 4 - Uptime: 7d 21h 33m - Users: 1 - Load Average: 0.39 - Memory Usage: 83.25MB/303.98MB (27.39%) - Disk Usage: 4.51GB/7.40GB (60.99%)
May 17 21:30:23 <Strife89> Ouch
May 17 21:30:35 <CcSsNET> the p3 is for IRC hehe
May 17 21:30:39 <CcSsNET> not gamming
May 17 21:30:58 <Strife89> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1905158/Tech%20Photos/hx4700-angstrom-1.JPG <-- My only ever success, with the 2007 rootfs .img
May 17 21:31:09 <Strife89> It is literally useless.
May 17 21:31:27 <CcSsNET> yea 2007 image worked for me 2
May 17 21:31:32 <CcSsNET> ok heres the fstab
May 17 21:31:43 <CcSsNET> last line is only change
May 17 21:32:10 <CcSsNET>  /dev/mmcblk0p1   /   auto   defaults,sync,noauto 0 0
May 17 21:32:15 <CcSsNET> tis last line ^
May 17 21:32:31 <Strife89> Hmmm.
May 17 21:32:38 <CcSsNET> basically telling the kernel to look at the rootfs as this device
May 17 21:32:40 <Strife89> Hang on, lemme pull up my fstab
May 17 21:33:24 <Strife89> http://pastebin.com/vcuVemax
May 17 21:33:34 <CcSsNET> you may as well setup a few files in etc since ur in there
May 17 21:33:57 <CcSsNET> if ur not already familar with doing so, source distrobutions might be anoying to you
May 17 21:36:19 * Strife89 comments out the first line and puts CcSsNET's line in there.
May 17 21:36:28 <Strife89> Unmount, trying again.
May 17 21:36:47 <CcSsNET> o right, i guess i should specify that the partitions are important in relation to that line in fstab
May 17 21:37:00 <CcSsNET> u might want p0
May 17 21:37:02 <CcSsNET> instead of p1
May 17 21:37:12 <CcSsNET> at the ending of mmcblk0p1
May 17 21:37:15 <Strife89> Oh, the card has two partitions
May 17 21:37:19 <CcSsNET> ok
May 17 21:37:25 <Strife89> FAT and ext2
May 17 21:37:27 <CcSsNET> and second partition is rootfs?
May 17 21:37:35 <Strife89> Yes
May 17 21:37:36 <CcSsNET> k
May 17 21:37:40 <CcSsNET> ur good to go then
May 17 21:37:47 <Strife89> I hope
May 17 21:37:54 <CcSsNET> we'll see
May 17 21:37:58 <CcSsNET> im charging mine
May 17 21:37:59 <CcSsNET> its dead
May 17 21:38:44 <Strife89> Still unable to open an initial console, but now I'm getting some strange output
May 17 21:39:01 <Strife89> "Empty flash at [address] ends at [address]"
May 17 21:39:08 <Strife89> Many, MANY lines
May 17 21:39:20 <Strife89> Can't read any of them
May 17 21:39:29 <CcSsNET> hmmm is it formated as expected?
May 17 21:39:34 <Strife89> sigh, hard reset
May 17 21:39:39 <Strife89> Dunno.
May 17 21:39:41 <CcSsNET> yea sucks
May 17 21:39:56 <CcSsNET> mine will be charged in a few hours ill probably poke at it again
May 17 21:40:12 <Strife89> I'm fixin' to have to head home.
May 17 21:40:17 <Strife89> No Internet access at home.
May 17 21:40:20 <CcSsNET> o
May 17 21:40:22 <CcSsNET> :-/
May 17 21:40:30 <CcSsNET> u at work?
May 17 21:40:34 <Strife89> Yeah.
May 17 21:40:41 <Strife89> Well, workplace anyway.
May 17 21:40:45 <CcSsNET> ok well i guess we'll talk tomorow then
May 17 21:40:47 <Strife89> Clocked out, only one left.
May 17 21:40:49 <Strife89> Yeah.
May 17 21:41:01 <Strife89> Let me know if you find anything. :)
May 17 21:41:04 <CcSsNET> k
May 17 21:41:06 <CcSsNET> u 2
May 17 21:41:15 <Strife89> Thanks
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