**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Mar 22 02:59:58 2012 Mar 22 03:07:47 Anyone here used angstrom with mini2440 before? Mar 22 09:11:57 angstrom: 03Koen Kooi  07master * rf6e29c95d7 10setup-scripts/README: Mar 22 09:11:57 angstrom: add tiny README Mar 22 09:11:57 angstrom: Signed-off-by: Koen Kooi Mar 22 09:12:20 angstrom: 03Graeme Gregory  07master * redc1ec58f6 10setup-scripts/sources/layers.txt: (log message trimmed) Mar 22 09:12:21 angstrom: layers.txt move the meta-ti and meta-ang Mar 22 09:12:21 angstrom: meta-ang has a new how on github Mar 22 09:12:21 angstrom: meta-ti has a new mirror on yocto Mar 22 09:12:21 angstrom: old git.angstrom-distrubition.org server is due for shutdown end of Mar 22 09:12:21 angstrom: march. Mar 22 09:12:22 angstrom: Signed-off-by: Graeme Gregory Mar 22 09:12:37 angstrom: 03Koen Kooi  07master * r3178e98c97 10setup-scripts/conf/local.conf: Mar 22 09:12:37 angstrom: local.conf: enable sstate-mirror Mar 22 09:12:37 angstrom: Signed-off-by: Koen Kooi Mar 22 09:19:54 morning Mar 22 10:32:24 Spider-Pork, perhaps you'll know - which platforms is Angstrom actively developed for? Mar 22 10:32:55 I think for embedded devices ARM based Mar 22 10:33:07 but in general for custom devices Mar 22 10:33:17 i'll not use Angstrom for my desktop PC Mar 22 10:34:05 openembedded plus angstrom are the perfect combo for custom devices Mar 22 10:34:13 (imho) Mar 22 10:50:32 I've used it on my Zaurus and hx4700, but it seems like the UI pieces are not in the best shape. Is it now more oriented towards headless devices Mar 22 10:50:34 ? Mar 22 10:56:46 I never used it with WM or DE Mar 22 14:47:11 Hi, I recently installed an image of angstrom with network manager Mar 22 14:47:38 anyone knows how to set a static IP for it? Mar 22 14:50:23 edit /etc/network/interfaces Mar 22 14:57:19 the default is: Mar 22 14:57:38 auto eth0 Mar 22 14:57:38 iface eth0 inet dhcp Mar 22 14:57:38 iface eth1 inet dhcp Mar 22 14:58:06 I put: Mar 22 14:58:09 # Wired or wireless interfaces Mar 22 14:58:09 auto eth0 Mar 22 14:58:09 address 192.168.10.54 Mar 22 14:58:09 netmask 255.255.255.0 Mar 22 14:58:09 network 192.168.10.0 Mar 22 14:58:10 gateway 192.168.10.254 Mar 22 14:58:12 ##iface eth0 inet dhcp Mar 22 14:58:14 ##iface eth1 inet dhcp Mar 22 14:58:21 and it doesn't work Mar 22 15:15:42 when I try to configure eth0 or wlan0, I get error that ifconfig: SIOCGIFFLAGS: No such device Mar 22 15:15:55 I tried beagleboard xm and pandaboard Mar 22 15:16:04 any idea why this happans? Mar 22 15:16:16 I'd need to get either wlan0 or eth0 working Mar 22 15:30:01 xbyte1024: how it can works if you say to it: "ehi use dhcp!" Mar 22 15:34:55 Spider-Pork: the # in front of the line doesn't mean "comment" ? Mar 22 15:35:32 [15:57:37] iface eth0 inet dhcp Mar 22 15:35:32 [15:57:37] iface eth1 inet dhcp Mar 22 15:35:37 i don't see any # Mar 22 15:35:49 ah you put Mar 22 15:35:58 but you have this [15:58:08] auto eth0 Mar 22 15:36:22 iface eth0 inet static baybe this will works Mar 22 15:36:36 yes Mar 22 15:36:47 edit it and then /etc/init.d/networking restart Mar 22 15:37:11 I thought auto mean auto up Mar 22 15:37:26 yep Mar 22 15:37:29 auto is necessary Mar 22 15:37:35 you need to add "iface eth0 inet static" Mar 22 15:37:52 or the system will not try to use static ip adress Mar 22 15:38:13 iface eth1 inet dhcp --> use DHCP Mar 22 15:38:25 iface eth0 inet static ---> use static ip address Mar 22 15:38:39 don't matter about eth1 or 0 Mar 22 15:38:47 i think you have only eth0 Mar 22 15:38:58 sometimes you may need to add between those iface lines "auto eth1" Mar 22 15:40:38 rebooting Mar 22 15:42:17 thx worked Mar 22 15:43:00 you are welcome Mar 22 15:43:12 is not necessary to reboot Mar 22 15:43:25 o Mar 22 15:43:29 right! Mar 22 15:43:32 ---> /etc/init.d/networking restart Mar 22 15:44:43 do you have any idea why I can't ping my board using hostname? Mar 22 15:44:56 I never could Mar 22 15:51:42 xbyte1024: you should edit /etc/resolv.conf Mar 22 15:51:55 nameserver ip_dns1 Mar 22 15:52:07 nameserver ip_dns_" Mar 22 15:52:09 *2 Mar 22 15:52:17 8.8.8.8 Mar 22 15:52:19 8.8.4.4 Mar 22 15:52:22 Anyone know a good handwriting recognition program I can run on Angstrom? Mar 22 15:52:54 right after boot /etc/resolv.conf is always empty Mar 22 15:53:20 exept if I have dynamic Ip Mar 22 15:54:00 xbyte1024: Have you tried booting with a Gentoo install CD or sysresccd, chrooting, and cp -l /etc/resolv.conf /mnt/gentoo/etc/? Mar 22 15:55:07 no, I never played with gentoo Mar 22 15:55:31 Oy. I'm so used to chatting on Gentoo, I'm talking as if this were Gentoo chat. My bad. 0_0 Mar 22 15:57:15 xbyte1024: i have this problem too. Google it, i not resolved it yet Mar 22 15:57:33 ok Mar 22 15:58:24 If i try to apend what you wrote in /etc/resolv.conf will it do something Mar 22 15:58:27 ? Mar 22 16:00:18 xbyte1024: http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.distributions.angstrom.user/3635 Mar 22 16:00:50 I think is only a workaround Mar 22 16:01:02 there is some service that at boot clean the file Mar 22 16:04:30 I think we will write down a shell script to do it an put it auto run Mar 22 16:04:57 not elegant but probably practical! Mar 22 16:05:34 I used to use this: Mar 22 16:05:36 echo "Setting IP" Mar 22 16:05:36 ifconfig eth0 192.168.10.53 netmask 255.255.255.0 up Mar 22 16:05:36 echo "Setting default gw" Mar 22 16:05:36 route add default gw 192.168.10.254 Mar 22 16:05:36 echo "Writing resolv.conf" Mar 22 16:05:37 echo "\ Mar 22 16:05:39 domain lan Mar 22 16:05:43 search lan Mar 22 16:05:45 nameserver 192.168.10.254" > /etc/resolv.conf Mar 22 16:05:47 echo "Up and running" Mar 22 16:06:20 xbyte1024: is not necessary Mar 22 16:06:43 up echo nameserver 4.2.2.2 > /etc/resolv.conf Mar 22 16:06:43 up echo nameserver 4.2.2.2 >> /etc/resolv.conf Mar 22 16:06:43 Mar 22 16:06:43 in the /etc/network/interfaces file. Mar 22 16:06:53 from the link above Mar 22 16:07:37 obviously you must use your DNS IP Mar 22 16:07:49 i suggest google dns: 8.8.8.8 8.8.4.4 Mar 22 16:32:05 Spider-Pork, do you use avachi? Mar 22 16:32:12 no, what is? Mar 22 16:33:32 I'm not sure but it is a network automization program in angstrom Mar 22 16:34:01 looks like it has a relationship with hostname Mar 22 16:37:21 avahi, it's a zeroconf implementation Mar 22 16:40:12 yes dm8tbr you are right Mar 22 18:09:50 in here http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/toolchains/ it says "In recipes/tasks/task-qte-toolchain-host.bb host tools like moc, uic, rcc, qmake will get installed and in recipes/tasks/task-qte-toolchain-target.bb the Qt4 header files and libraries will be installed." Mar 22 18:10:24 either on the host OS (ubuntu) or beaglebone that runs angstroms distrubition have such a directory Mar 22 18:10:59 do anybody understand what is refered in the instruction? Mar 22 18:12:22 "$ bitbake meta-toolchain-qte" do I need to type it on the host(ubuntu) or beaglebone (angstroms) ? Mar 22 20:13:42 Anyone here used angstrom with mini2440 before? Mar 22 20:51:37 Argorok, me Mar 22 20:51:54 xbyte1024, were you successful? Mar 22 20:52:15 I am able to just start the cli, then I log in as root, and Im unable to start the X Mar 22 20:52:18 successful on what? Mar 22 20:52:35 mmm Mar 22 20:52:39 me 2 Mar 22 20:52:47 My display is a Sony X35 Mar 22 20:52:50 :( Mar 22 20:52:59 I am not sure how to start the X Mar 22 20:53:11 were did u fount the image Mar 22 20:53:28 It tells me that need a display... then I set the display 0:0 and still nothing happening Mar 22 20:53:37 I built it with narcissus Mar 22 20:53:53 opie or X Mar 22 20:53:55 X Mar 22 20:53:59 With matchbox Mar 22 20:54:20 But I dont care at all... I just want to run my Python = Qt apps in graphical mode. Dont need more than it Mar 22 20:54:39 w8 Mar 22 20:54:42 Pyt + Qt. Just need to start my app and software keyboard Mar 22 20:54:46 K Mar 22 20:56:07 b Mar 22 20:56:52 I don't think I can help thou I tried the same long ago Mar 22 20:57:19 now I just work without it Mar 22 20:57:39 It is not realy important for what I want Mar 22 20:58:06 but did you search the friendlyARM forum Mar 22 20:58:25 an the bill's mini2440 forum? Mar 22 20:58:45 I thought I was close to find something Mar 22 20:58:52 xbyte1024, a lot. I didn't ask for help on them, just searched for someone with the same problem and the solution Mar 22 20:58:58 xbyte1024, what are you using now? Mar 22 20:59:08 I jsut want it: Python + Qt + Soft Keyboard Mar 22 21:00:40 I only work on command line via serial or Ethernet and I have a web server (cherokee) running on the mini for a more graficak comunication Mar 22 21:03:28 1 last thing Mar 22 21:03:58 on the boot arguments do you use the right one? Mar 22 21:06:23 how to compile a c++ file on angstrom? Mar 22 21:07:18 on angstom? Mar 22 21:08:00 you want to compile in on the board? Mar 22 21:08:10 yes Mar 22 21:08:15 on beaglebone Mar 22 21:08:43 is it possible? Mar 22 21:09:21 well i far as I know yes Mar 22 21:09:32 but realy slow Mar 22 21:10:06 what would be the another solution? Mar 22 21:10:29 I don't know the beaglebone's hardware but in mini some tied and took ages Mar 22 21:10:30 install QT or eclipse on ubuntu then tool chain for SDK? Mar 22 21:10:53 you need a cross compiler Mar 22 21:11:22 and the you use it to cross compile your program Mar 22 21:11:53 are toolchain and cross compiler the same, right? Mar 22 21:11:54 I dont know the toolchain you need for your board Mar 22 21:12:20 I need to download angstrom-2011.03-i686-linux-armv5te-linux-gnueabi-toolchain-qte-4.6.3.tar.bz2 from http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/toolchains/ Mar 22 21:12:21 ? Mar 22 21:12:24 If I correctly understood that yes :p Mar 22 21:13:16 look like Mar 22 21:13:33 I think it will work Mar 22 21:13:36 I could not understand the instruction on that webpage Mar 22 21:13:57 do I just need to install the toolchain then run this command on ubuntu? $ bitbake meta-toolchain-qte Mar 22 21:14:11 is it all needed for the installation? Mar 22 21:15:01 Untar the SDK once Mar 22 21:15:01 $ tar -C / -xjf angstrom-armv5te-linux-gnueabi-toolchain-qte.tar.bz2 Mar 22 21:15:01 Before using it source the environment Mar 22 21:15:01 $ . /usr/local/angstrom/arm/environment-setup Mar 22 21:15:01 Use qmake2 to build software for the target Mar 22 21:15:01 $ qmake2 Mar 22 21:15:01 not exactly Mar 22 21:15:04 is that all? Mar 22 21:15:31 do I need to run "$ bitbake meta-toolchain-qte" on angstrom (beagleboard) or ubuntu(host pc) ? Mar 22 21:15:48 first I don't know If you need the armv5te or armv7te Mar 22 21:16:19 sec, you need to compile openembedded? Mar 22 21:16:23 it is armv7 Mar 22 21:16:27 what I need Mar 22 21:17:19 then I suppose angstrom-2011.03-i686-linux-armv7a-linux-gnueabi-toolchain-qte-4.6.3.tar.bz2 Mar 22 21:17:34 I am new on linux and embedded programming. I would be glad if you could tell me what I need Mar 22 21:18:32 As far as I know from mini2440 Mar 22 21:19:04 When you download the toolchain you need to extract it Mar 22 21:20:23 an use the arm-none-linux-gnueabi-g++ or something like that as you use g++ now Mar 22 21:21:42 of course if you need a special header it should be available to the cross-compiler Mar 22 21:22:39 you will probably need to add something to the PATH to become accessible Mar 22 21:23:20 and if you need to compile something complicated Mar 22 21:23:51 that needs other programs, it will be a little tricky Mar 22 21:24:03 I am not a pro either Mar 22 21:24:48 thank you very much for the explanation, do you know any good source that explains these things for beginners? Mar 22 21:24:54 but I thing beaglebone has a pretty active community Mar 22 21:25:19 I keep force to ask but they never reply Mar 22 21:25:50 you better google it by using beaglebone as a keyword Mar 22 21:25:59 and they are not helpful at all. Mar 22 21:26:16 I am trying to google but there are very little useful information Mar 22 21:26:25 whom do you ask? Mar 22 21:26:41 especially there is almost no source for beginners Mar 22 21:26:52 I always ask on #beaglebone Mar 22 21:27:03 beaglebone's webpage refers that room Mar 22 21:27:04 mmm Mar 22 21:27:31 that kind of work is not usual to beginners Mar 22 21:27:34 but people on that room pretend to be very cool and they ignore if one does not ask very high level question Mar 22 21:27:50 so most people who write articles... Mar 22 21:28:18 or they don't see it Mar 22 21:28:30 for a project, I need to use beaglebone and do embedded programming. I've never had an experience and I need to learn but I can not find any source for beginners Mar 22 21:28:49 what I found is very limited and usualy not understandable for n00b like me:) Mar 22 21:29:30 what have you done that far? Mar 22 21:29:53 I loaded angstroms image on SD card of beaglebone Mar 22 21:29:59 do you know the linux basics? Mar 22 21:30:04 no :) Mar 22 21:30:07 :p Mar 22 21:30:14 I just started to use linux 4 days ago :) Mar 22 21:30:24 :) Mar 22 21:30:52 I assigned static IP to the bone Mar 22 21:31:05 I am learning step by step :) but it takes too much time of me Mar 22 21:31:18 as I have no experience in linux Mar 22 21:31:49 I tried many times to set up eclipse and QT SDK then tried to install the toolchain on angstroms' page Mar 22 21:31:54 but it did not work I dont know why Mar 22 21:32:10 although I followed some instruction on google Mar 22 21:33:03 yes Mar 22 21:33:38 do you recommend any good source to read for a beginner to learn basic about embedded programming on linux? Mar 22 21:33:53 I had a lot of problems till I find the correct way of working (and I still have problems) Mar 22 21:34:08 w8 a moment Mar 22 21:34:17 thank you Mar 22 21:40:33 the most of my data is specified for the mini2440 Mar 22 21:41:30 do you want a pdf for embedded systems that looks begginer firendly but it is old Mar 22 21:41:31 ? Mar 22 21:41:37 yeah Mar 22 21:41:49 where can I download it? Mar 22 21:42:13 here Mar 22 21:42:47 is it downloading or how can I accept the file? Mar 22 21:43:12 do you see a window? Mar 22 21:43:17 an ok Mar 22 21:43:19 I closed it by mistake Mar 22 21:43:23 :p Mar 22 21:43:24 could u send it again? Mar 22 21:43:29 :) Mar 22 21:43:50 again Mar 22 21:44:36 the mirc script rejected the file automaticly Mar 22 21:44:46 because of a list Mar 22 21:44:58 I set it to accept pdf extension Mar 22 21:45:05 could you last time send it Mar 22 21:45:06 :) Mar 22 21:45:14 it should not reject the file this time Mar 22 21:45:20 ok I found the link: Mar 22 21:45:21 www.kerneltravel.net/downloads/Building.Embedded.Linux.Systems.pdf Mar 22 21:46:26 thank you very much Mar 22 21:46:30 it is really old but it will probably explain some things Mar 22 21:46:53 in addition Mar 22 21:46:55 it seems useful Mar 22 21:47:05 http://billforums.station51.net/index.php Mar 22 21:47:15 here is a forum for mini2440 Mar 22 21:47:42 what is the cost of mini2440? Mar 22 21:48:00 how much is it cost? Mar 22 21:48:10 don't do it it's an old board :p Mar 22 21:48:37 ok :) Mar 22 21:48:59 do you write code in C or C++? Mar 22 21:48:59 it is hard to find precompiled programs Mar 22 21:49:05 C Mar 22 21:50:09 how do you define I/O of mini2440 in the program? for example to check the data comes from usb equals to "hello"? Mar 22 21:50:44 I never tried to read data from usb Mar 22 21:50:55 or ethernet interface? Mar 22 21:51:01 I use SPI for my work Mar 22 21:51:27 but you need to learn specific libraries Mar 22 21:51:42 how do you read SPI input on the board? Mar 22 21:53:14 in spi I have to use the ioctl function from Mar 22 21:53:38 in a specific way Mar 22 21:54:21 you will probably need the same function in another way for usb communication Mar 22 21:54:53 so for example, beaglebone also have libraries under sys directory, right? Mar 22 21:55:37 as far as I know sys is not a real directory Mar 22 21:56:56 sys and proc are generated by the kernel Mar 22 21:57:44 I used /sys/class/gpio to play with gpio pins Mar 22 21:58:06 I changed the values in files Mar 22 21:58:24 but these files are not stored in the disc :) Mar 22 21:58:55 ok got it now:) Mar 22 22:00:41 I need to learn many things, I will start with the pdf that you suggested Mar 22 22:00:54 thank you very much for your time and answers :) Mar 22 22:01:07 I appreciate a lot Mar 22 22:01:09 great Mar 22 22:01:27 now I am sorry but I need to logout Mar 22 22:01:48 I don't know were are you but here is late Mar 22 22:02:09 and I have to wake up tomorow :) Mar 22 22:02:41 here is also late 11:00 :) Mar 22 22:03:03 we are near Mar 22 22:03:12 I am from sweden Mar 22 22:03:14 u? Mar 22 22:03:20 greece Mar 22 22:03:40 nice :) Mar 22 22:03:56 :) Mar 22 22:04:02 good night Mar 22 22:04:04 sleep tight and thanks for your assistance :) Mar 22 22:04:07 good night too Mar 22 22:04:09 bye :) Mar 22 22:04:17 I'll be around Mar 23 00:58:21 !logs Mar 23 01:14:23 I would like to run a rootfs image created in narcissus in qemu. Is that possible? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Mar 23 02:59:58 2012