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Sep 03 07:10:04 <vvu|Log> good morning everyone!
Sep 03 08:01:07 <vvu|Log> av500: we spoke a time ago about the usb monitor you have...can you grab some samples for me? i want to see what happens if RNDIS is not in the kernel
Sep 03 08:01:29 <av500> yes
Sep 03 08:01:32 <av500> but need to set it up
Sep 03 08:01:33 <vvu|Log> i can`t really figure out how the chip advertises itself as RNDIS...it sends only once data or multiple times
Sep 03 08:01:38 <av500> and I need to finish some work stuff first
Sep 03 08:01:42 <vvu|Log> okok
Sep 03 08:02:20 <vvu|Log> tell me what device will u use for me to build the boot.img for you
Sep 03 08:02:28 <av500> n7
Sep 03 08:02:36 <vvu|Log> okdokie
Sep 03 08:42:38 <vmayoral> greetings!
Sep 03 08:47:45 <koen> hey vmayoral
Sep 03 09:15:20 <vvu|Log> hello vmayoral !
Sep 03 09:21:18 <vvu|Log> av500: if i give you the zImage is that good or you want 4.3 boot.img ?
Sep 03 09:38:41 <vvu|Log> av500: the nexus4 is no go as a testing device. the BBB is not even recognized at USB level
Sep 03 09:38:45 <vvu|Log> nothing in dmesg
Sep 03 09:39:19 <vvu|Log> i don`t think it has usb host enabled...does not even power the BBB
Sep 03 09:47:32 <vvu|Log> av500: you have GSM nexus 7?
Sep 03 10:20:39 <av500> no
Sep 03 10:20:41 <av500> wifi only
Sep 03 10:20:48 <av500> maguro i think
Sep 03 10:21:07 <av500> gimme something I can flash easily
Sep 03 10:21:12 <av500> with my limited knowledge
Sep 03 10:21:14 <av500> lunch
Sep 03 10:21:19 <av500> and stupid calls all day long...
Sep 03 11:22:58 <vvu|Log> av500: also my computer networks professor got interested in BeagleBone for his projects
Sep 03 11:23:09 <av500> good
Sep 03 11:23:53 <vvu|Log> the day after tomorrow i have a meeting with him
Sep 03 11:24:30 <av500> put on your best suit
Sep 03 11:24:46 <vvu|Log> -1 for suit but +1 for the advice
Sep 03 11:41:14 <vvu|Log> av500: http://beagleboot.vdev.ro/kernels/boot_4.3_noRNDIS.img flash this one
Sep 03 11:41:48 <vvu|Log> then take usb dumps when you connect the board to the tablet...i`m curious how RNDIS advertises itself
Sep 03 11:42:06 <av500> ok
Sep 03 11:42:19 <vvu|Log> regarding the app...what more should i include in it ?
Sep 03 11:42:35 <vvu|Log> the n4 is not good for the project just tested one now
Sep 03 11:45:10 <av500> oh
Sep 03 11:45:14 <av500> what is the issue?
Sep 03 11:45:23 <av500> getting n4 to work would be nice
Sep 03 11:45:28 <vvu|Log> it does not have usb host active in the kernel, does not even power the board
Sep 03 11:45:50 <av500> arf
Sep 03 11:45:52 <vvu|Log> a friend from campus has this n4 i`m testing on. getting it is no problem
Sep 03 11:46:08 <vvu|Log> should i try to hack the kenel and activate them?
Sep 03 11:46:46 <av500> google it
Sep 03 11:50:47 <vvu|Log> it can be hacked to have...but needs also custom kernel and then root access to do some things in terminal
Sep 03 12:38:26 <vmayoral> vvu|Log those are good news! good luck for the meeting ;)
Sep 03 12:39:54 <vmayoral> it's actually great to see how many people is getting interested in the BeagleBone!
Sep 03 12:42:41 <vvu|Log> vmayoral: 10x!
Sep 03 13:36:16 * vvu|Log kinda hates Android progress bar
Sep 03 14:50:49 <vvu|Log> jkridner: hello!
Sep 03 15:24:38 <vvu|Log> jkridner: i made a tutorial how to run the project but i still need some testers. i got my hands on a nexus 4 but it`s useless does not have usb host in the stock kernel. should i post stuff to the beagle ML ?
Sep 03 15:42:26 <jkridner> hi vvu|Log
Sep 03 15:54:14 <jkridner> yes, I think you should post to the beagle mailing list... but it might help to get Beagle working as the Android host first, since you know most people have Beagle's on that list
Sep 03 16:07:24 <_av500_> that means diving into musb probably
Sep 03 16:07:32 <_av500_> vvu|Log: what was the status of that?
Sep 03 17:30:47 <vvu|Log> jkridner: _av500_ the BBB android kernel sees the am335x as usb device and RNDIS but from the java api i can't see it in the list. from java the usb device list is empty.
Sep 03 17:30:58 <vvu|Log> tested with a random usb stick also and same result.
Sep 03 17:31:06 <jkridner> :(
Sep 03 17:31:20 <jkridner> can you report the issue to the rowboat mailing list?
Sep 03 17:31:32 <vvu|Log> the android from circuitco site uses robert nelson kernel
Sep 03 17:31:39 <jkridner> k.
Sep 03 17:31:43 <vvu|Log> i tried to switch to the angstrom kernel but it won't boot
Sep 03 17:31:58 <jkridner> I wouldn't do that... fallback would be to use the TI kernel.
Sep 03 17:32:11 <vvu|Log> i tried to talk with the people on rowboat IRC but no answer
Sep 03 17:32:20 <jkridner> but, I'd think even the rowboat list should be a valid place to discuss integration with newer kernels.
Sep 03 17:32:54 <jkridner> I didn't even know anyone was there anymore...
Sep 03 17:33:03 <vvu|Log> tonight i will post on rowboat ML, need to flash again android to a uSD card
Sep 03 17:33:03 <jkridner> I don't think any of the maintainers follows #rowboat.
Sep 03 17:33:14 <jkridner> I can ping them to follow-up to the mailing list.
Sep 03 17:33:38 <vvu|Log> jkridner: beside BBB as host any other ideas more ?
Sep 03 17:33:47 <vvu|Log> i`m curently stuck on ideas
Sep 03 17:33:57 <vvu|Log> just to make UI/UX a bit better but else...
Sep 03 17:34:21 <vvu|Log> i also need some eMMC images but koen said GPL license is a bit tricky if i want to host them
Sep 03 17:39:39 <vvu|Log> jkridner: also my computer networks professor got some interest in the BBB, the day after 2morrow he wants me to present the board and what it can do
Sep 03 17:39:51 <jkridner> cool!
Sep 03 17:40:36 <vvu|Log> he is an IETF member as i remember
Sep 03 17:40:51 <vvu|Log> or admin there, dunno exactly
Sep 03 18:37:40 <vvu|Log> jkridner: so i should post on their ML about the rowboat problem...
Sep 03 19:56:03 <jkridner> vvu|Log: yes
Sep 03 22:30:02 <vvu|Log> i posted on rowboat ML, if anybody wants to take a look https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rowboat/Qc-eW2s7mkI
Sep 03 22:51:15 <ds2> rowboat is probally missing some HAL
Sep 03 23:10:09 <vvu|Log> ds2: HAL ?
Sep 03 23:10:27 <ds2> hardware abstraction layer
Sep 03 23:10:35 <ds2> essentially something that translates Android calls into real systme calls
Sep 03 23:10:49 <vvu|Log> ahh...so it`s kinda no go for this part
Sep 03 23:11:03 <ds2> not exactly
Sep 03 23:11:07 <vvu|Log> at least i posted maybe someone tells me that i should run away from this
Sep 03 23:11:09 <ds2> those can be written
Sep 03 23:11:15 <ds2> I just donno what the hal is off hand
Sep 03 23:11:30 <ds2> I have done sensors and radio hals before and it isn't hard
Sep 03 23:12:01 <vvu|Log> yeah but me doing some awkward usb stuff, don`t think i can pull it off
Sep 03 23:12:19 <ds2> *shrug*
Sep 03 23:13:34 * vvu|Log likes when his iMac runs linux, VM with windows and no osx...such irony
Sep 03 23:18:47 <vvu|Log> ds2: found something interesting http://e2e.ti.com/support/embedded/android/f/509/p/277737/972243.aspx#972243
Sep 03 23:30:51 <ds2> hmmm
Sep 03 23:30:54 <ds2> that xml file
Sep 03 23:30:57 <ds2> wonder if that is the key
Sep 03 23:31:52 <vvu|Log> also 1st with the line in *.rc maybe
Sep 03 23:31:57 <vvu|Log> it`s not there on my android
Sep 03 23:38:00 <ds2> it would be in the sources
Sep 03 23:38:21 <ds2> android host API is ICS or is it JB only?
Sep 03 23:38:41 <vvu|Log> level 12 API and bigger
Sep 03 23:38:43 <vvu|Log> 3.1.x
Sep 03 23:38:46 <vvu|Log> as i remember
Sep 03 23:38:57 <ds2> Oh HC or newer
Sep 03 23:39:02 <ds2> let me look at my source tree
Sep 03 23:40:04 <ds2> tree is on a slow drive, give me a while
Sep 03 23:40:47 <vvu|Log> no problem
Sep 03 23:49:37 <ds2> http://pastebin.com/BQnCkUX6
Sep 03 23:49:44 <ds2> that's what is in that file
Sep 03 23:50:07 <vvu|Log> so i should edit with the things here
Sep 03 23:50:33 <vvu|Log> and put the line in  ueventd.rc  then test ?
Sep 04 00:00:04 <ds2> donno if that line in ueventd.rc is needed but it can't hurt
Sep 04 00:00:45 <vvu|Log> ds2: 2morrow i will test...now i need to sleep. i have a class in 6 hours :(
Sep 04 00:00:52 <vvu|Log> good night and thx for the help!
Sep 04 00:17:33 <ds2> 'k
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