**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Sep 19 02:59:59 2013 Sep 19 04:39:51 ds2: what is wrong with you? Sep 19 04:42:40 hmmm? Sep 19 04:43:17 nodejs? Sep 19 04:43:30 you went to the dark side Sep 19 04:43:34 oh that heheheheh Sep 19 04:43:41 :D Sep 19 04:44:23 the best thing to do when dealing with lynch mobs is to sell rope and timber! Sep 19 04:47:07 av500: quick q... the GPS in a G9 is a WiLink, right? Sep 19 04:49:49 ti yes Sep 19 04:50:10 'k Sep 19 04:50:18 that rules out most of the gps lock accelerators Sep 19 04:50:34 ? Sep 19 04:50:47 you need assist data Sep 19 04:51:03 isn't that a ephemeris push? Sep 19 04:51:11 or do these want different info? Sep 19 04:51:15 yes Sep 19 04:51:21 we did that Sep 19 04:51:39 most chips want a special binary protocol to do that Sep 19 04:52:06 maybe Sep 19 04:52:17 you know of ones that will do it in NMEA mode? Sep 19 04:52:28 no idea Sep 19 04:52:34 think sirf and the old motorola ones want a different mode Sep 19 04:52:37 'k Sep 19 06:08:24 mornin av500 ! Sep 19 06:25:56 av500: any idea if xM rev C does usb boot ? or at least is it capable ? i read on beagle ML that some revision does not know how to do usb boot Sep 19 06:32:23 it does usb boot Sep 19 06:32:29 thats std omap3 ROM code Sep 19 06:32:36 but you need to solder the SYSBOOT pin Sep 19 06:32:38 I think Sep 19 06:34:37 yeah that is why i was asking Sep 19 06:36:20 or just pop out the uSD card Sep 19 06:36:22 boot Sep 19 06:36:28 prompt for it to be inserted. and flash Sep 19 06:36:40 if there is no uSD card, it should fall back to USB boot (IIRC) Sep 19 06:37:10 but how does it work, it has a NAND right with x-loader on it ? or i`m on the wrong track? Sep 19 06:39:54 XM has no nand Sep 19 06:39:57 classic has nand Sep 19 06:40:14 maybe its classic that needs to be soldered for usb bot Sep 19 06:40:15 boot Sep 19 06:40:28 see the schematics for sysboot pins Sep 19 06:40:38 pesky versions Sep 19 06:44:26 IIRC, classic has the user button Sep 19 06:44:40 and people have used pusb with them w/o soldering Sep 19 06:46:17 ds2: yup but with pusb you just ship the SPL there but tartarus told me the SPL for xM does not know how to do USB Boot Sep 19 06:46:23 that is why i wanna hack a bit in that area Sep 19 06:49:30 yes Sep 19 06:49:37 but that's a "software issue" :D Sep 19 06:49:56 the trick is to squeeze in a musb driver in the size of the SRAM Sep 19 06:49:57 yep, i want to "remove" this sw issue Sep 19 06:50:07 32K or maybe 64K Sep 19 06:50:20 but BBB how much SRAM does it have ? Sep 19 06:50:34 donno off hand... check the TRM for the AM3359 Sep 19 06:50:43 because BBB does more complicated thing with the usb boot RNDIS and all the thingies Sep 19 06:51:01 for xM it should be simpler with the ASIC ID stuff Sep 19 06:51:04 isn't the RNDIS done by the ROM? Sep 19 06:51:16 yep, ROM then SPL and U-Boot implement them Sep 19 06:51:23 I wonder if the ROM offers calls to handle USB Sep 19 06:51:29 the same idea is used all over the place -_- Sep 19 06:51:46 yes... other mfgs chips do similar things Sep 19 06:52:06 or you can use the tricks to get the ROM to setup the DRAM from the ROM Sep 19 06:52:17 then you might be able to drop stuff in DRAM Sep 19 06:53:50 64k has the AM335x Sep 19 06:54:15 check the SPL sources Sep 19 06:54:24 see if it has the USB stack in the SPL or does it call the ROM Sep 19 06:54:57 the USB on the DM3730/OMAP3530 is very similar to the one on the AM3359 Sep 19 06:55:07 i don`t think spl for xM has usb in it Sep 19 06:55:08 at all Sep 19 06:55:18 I know that Sep 19 06:55:30 I mean SPL for the AM3359...does it have the stack in it or does it call ROM Sep 19 06:55:40 need to check Sep 19 06:56:30 erm Sep 19 06:56:40 doesnt usb boot offer configuration headers? Sep 19 06:56:47 then you can boot straight to sdram Sep 19 06:58:27 in u-boot/drivers/usb/ we have 2 folders musb and musb-new Sep 19 06:58:49 any idea which one of them to choose as a best candidate ? Sep 19 07:02:46 ds2: i think it uses the ROM...see some register addresses around there Sep 19 16:52:46 av500: ping Sep 19 16:52:54 had time to recheck the app ? Sep 19 18:52:05 _av500_: by any chance checked the app 2day ? Sep 19 18:56:27 <_av500_> sorry no Sep 19 18:56:30 <_av500_> wil ltry tomorrow Sep 19 19:07:06 no problem **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Sep 20 03:00:00 2013