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Jun 25 06:19:33 * vvu gives away free coffee
Jun 25 06:23:51 <mranostay> vvu: i'm beered up so no thanks
Jun 25 06:24:20 <vvu> mranostay: oh well in that case more for me
Jun 25 06:48:12 * Abhishek_ grabs a cup
Jun 25 10:02:37 * vvu sees a lot of BBBs around at work
Jun 25 10:21:49 * Abhishek_ recorded 100 seconds of logic data @10 MHz with on-the-fly compression into a 256 MB file
Jun 25 10:22:07 <Abhishek_> *with 3 dropped buffer warnings
Jun 25 10:28:55 <panto> cool
Jun 25 10:29:11 <panto> now it's time to port to mainline and/or fix things
Jun 25 10:29:13 <Abhishek_> then I doubled the buffer size and got no warnings
Jun 25 10:29:23 <Abhishek_> yep
Jun 25 10:30:36 <Abhishek_> the sigrok lib uses glib and polls on files with a GPollFD, so I had to reimplement read() and add poll() to support nonblock
Jun 25 10:32:32 <Abhishek_> panto: how are you going to prepare pru_rproc.c for the mainline?
Jun 25 10:36:29 <panto> I figure it out
Jun 25 10:36:36 <panto> *I'll
Jun 25 10:36:51 <Abhishek_> k
Jun 25 10:37:19 <Abhishek_> Are you aware of a small patch I applied to pru_rproc.c to hook it to BeagleLogic?
Jun 25 10:43:17 <panto> no
Jun 25 10:43:23 <panto> we have a long way ahead of us
Jun 25 10:43:47 <panto> but it is best for making stuff that don't linger in a side branch on 3.8 for ever
Jun 25 10:44:35 <Abhishek_> k, anyway I sent you the small patch I applied on top of pru_rproc.c for review
Jun 25 10:45:02 <av500> praveendath92|pc: where are we?
Jun 25 10:45:34 <praveendath92|pc> av500: Hello.
Jun 25 10:46:26 <praveendath92|pc> This morning I was attempting to run adb logs while in ADK mode. Tried using libusb and a new kernel driver.
Jun 25 10:46:59 <av500> does the communication work now?
Jun 25 10:47:01 <praveendath92|pc> The android app is almost done - I'm writing it clean from scratch.
Jun 25 10:47:04 <av500> between kernel and android app?
Jun 25 10:47:05 <praveendath92|pc> Yes. It does.
Jun 25 10:47:09 <av500> in both directions?
Jun 25 10:47:24 <praveendath92|pc> Yep :D
Jun 25 10:47:27 <av500> good
Jun 25 10:47:37 <av500> please write a good status report for later today
Jun 25 10:47:53 <praveendath92|pc> That's what I'm doing at this moment :D
Jun 25 10:48:45 <av500> good :)
Jun 25 10:57:27 <vvu> aa meeting today :)
Jun 25 11:00:43 <av500> vvu: will you be there?
Jun 25 11:00:56 <av500> im at a GDG meeting at that time and might have shit internet
Jun 25 11:01:01 <av500> ill try to be there
Jun 25 11:01:11 <av500> need to bribe somebody for good wifi...
Jun 25 11:01:48 <av500> lunch now
Jun 25 11:03:35 <praveendath92|pc> vvu: You saw the code?
Jun 25 11:03:37 <vvu> av500: yep gonna be here
Jun 25 11:03:49 <vvu> praveendath92|pc: nop, my b0$$ just gave me work to do :)
Jun 25 11:03:54 <praveendath92|pc> I took a nap today or the new code would have been up
Jun 25 11:04:05 <praveendath92|pc> That's nice :)
Jun 25 11:11:23 <vvu> av500: ever used xds100v3 jtag debugger ?
Jun 25 11:28:33 <av500> no
Jun 25 11:28:47 <panto> av500, have you ever been in a turkish prison?
Jun 25 11:29:12 <av500> not that I know of
Jun 25 11:29:23 <panto> what about movies with gladiators?
Jun 25 11:29:56 <av500> I have seen some
Jun 25 11:30:15 <panto> what did you have for lunch?
Jun 25 11:30:21 * panto heads out for lunch 
Jun 25 11:30:25 <av500> panto: pizza
Jun 25 11:30:41 <Abhishek_> margerita?
Jun 25 11:30:50 <av500> or at least what a german food company thinks is something like pizza
Jun 25 11:31:23 <av500> panto: gladiators in turkish prisons eat pizza?
Jun 25 11:31:29 <av500> or use jtag?
Jun 25 11:36:01 * Abhishek_ wonders the connection between prisons and JTAG debuggers
Jun 25 11:40:01 * vvu thinks about linking it to a gdb server maybe easier for Abhishek_ to debug
Jun 25 11:46:36 <praveendath92|pc> vvu: The android app is done.
Jun 25 11:47:12 <praveendath92|pc> I mean I reached the point I reached yesterday.
Jun 25 11:47:21 <praveendath92|pc> This one is from scratch.
Jun 25 11:47:44 <praveendath92|pc> I will just delete the sample folder now. I tried to keep it as clean as possible,
Jun 25 11:57:52 <vvu> oki
Jun 25 12:57:28 <vvu> praveendath92|pc: the app crashes on my n5
Jun 25 12:57:34 <vvu> if i try to run it
Jun 25 12:57:42 <vvu> without being connected to BBB
Jun 25 12:58:01 <praveendath92|pc> vvu: Yes. It does on mine too w/o accessory attached.
Jun 25 12:58:10 <praveendath92|pc> Not a big bug. Can be fixed.
Jun 25 12:58:30 <praveendath92|pc> Will do it.
Jun 25 12:58:39 <Abhishek_> hi jkridner
Jun 25 14:07:40 <praveendath92|pc> av500: vvu: sent the status mail :)
Jun 25 14:08:03 <praveendath92|pc> Had to give an online test so delayed.
Jun 25 15:24:13 <VoltVisionSteve> DiegoTc, how is it going?  Did you have a good talk with Oscar last night?
Jun 25 15:24:22 <DiegoTc> yes VoltVisionSteve
Jun 25 15:24:26 <DiegoTc> time for talking?
Jun 25 15:25:21 <VoltVisionSteve> sure.
Jun 25 15:27:19 <DiegoTc> VoltVisionSteve: Oscar told me that Paola send the email waiting for feedback. She didn't knew we hand an idea of how we want the project. So I show him the new links and told him that we need to work with that idea. Having the cards layout listing all tutorials, the way for showing the cards, etc.
Jun 25 15:28:34 <VoltVisionSteve> So things are non-blocking for you and you are working with Paola on a mockup?
Jun 25 15:29:16 <VoltVisionSteve> (in addition to your other programming and development)
Jun 25 15:33:18 <DiegoTc> I gave all the references to Oscar, he told me he email her
Jun 25 15:33:26 <DiegoTc> and she will be sending some mockups this wek
Jun 25 15:33:29 <DiegoTc> week
Jun 25 15:39:32 <VoltVisionSteve> DiegoTc, thats great news...meanwhile I am now reading your updates.
Jun 25 15:43:30 <DiegoTc> ok
Jun 25 15:44:23 <Abhishek_> Posted this week's updates for BeagleLogic
Jun 25 15:46:21 <jkridner> Thanks Abhishek_
Jun 25 15:46:44 <jkridner> Abhishek_: you say it'll be in the -bone57 kernel. It can be loaded and unloaded using capemgr?
Jun 25 15:46:53 <Abhishek_> correct
Jun 25 15:47:05 <Abhishek_> however modprobe beaglelogic will still need to be done
Jun 25 15:47:21 <_av500_> back
Jun 25 15:47:23 <jkridner> why? can't that be part of the overlay too?
Jun 25 15:47:57 <Abhishek_> jkridner: it is, but isn't compiled in (will be bundled as a module). So it will still have to be loaded
Jun 25 15:48:17 * jkridner wants to start encouraging people to do 'config-pin overlay XXXX' to load and add support to config-pin for unloading as well.
Jun 25 15:48:21 <Abhishek_> the probe for the module will be called as soon as the overlays are available
Jun 25 15:48:47 <jkridner> you sure that capemgr can't load drivers that are modules?
Jun 25 15:48:48 * vvu is here too
Jun 25 15:49:03 <Abhishek_> jkridner: not too sure about that
Jun 25 15:49:29 <Abhishek_> maybe I need to add a module match table or something in my module
Jun 25 15:49:59 * Abhishek_ could look into uio_pruss to see how it loads itself
Jun 25 15:51:12 <Abhishek_> I'll add universal cape support once the sigrok bindings are clear
Jun 25 15:55:45 <Abhishek_> jkridner: btw have you used libffi or similar to interface a native library from Node.JS?
Jun 25 15:59:16 <jkridner> hi all
Jun 25 15:59:24 <praveendath92|pc> Hello jkridner :)
Jun 25 15:59:26 <jkridner> Abhishek_: yes, I have used node-ffi
Jun 25 15:59:35 <jkridner> Abhishek_: it is pretty easy in my view.
Jun 25 15:59:43 <vmayoral|pc> hi everyone!
Jun 25 15:59:58 <vvu> hello vmayoral|pc
Jun 25 16:00:05 <Abhishek_> hi vmayoral|pc
Jun 25 16:00:25 <jkridner> Abhishek_: I don't know that uio_pruss loads itself or if there are any devicetree overlays that load it.
Jun 25 16:00:28 <praveendath92|pc> Hi vmayoral|pc
Jun 25 16:01:05 <Abhishek_> jkridner: ok I would take a little more information about node-ffi from you after the meeting
Jun 25 16:01:21 <jkridner> Thank you to those who showed up for our extra meeting this week on Monday... I know not everyone can make it.
Jun 25 16:01:28 <VoltVisionSteve> hello from my contract manufacturing house again!
Jun 25 16:01:41 <jkridner> hi Abhishek_, praveendath92|pc, vmayoral|pc, DiegoTc.
Jun 25 16:01:51 <DiegoTc> Hi jkridner
Jun 25 16:02:02 <VoltVisionSteve> hello rseethamraju !
Jun 25 16:02:09 <jkridner> Are disdi_, rseethamraju around?
Jun 25 16:02:14 <jkridner> and karki
Jun 25 16:02:16 <rseethamraju> hey VoltVisionSteve
Jun 25 16:02:22 <jkridner> hi rseethamraju
Jun 25 16:02:23 <rseethamraju> jkridner: yes
Jun 25 16:02:38 <jkridner> big week this week.
Jun 25 16:02:59 <alexanderhiam> VoltVisionSteve: rseethamraju just reported that she got gstreamer working to record to a file
Jun 25 16:03:09 <VoltVisionSteve> woohooo!!!!
Jun 25 16:03:14 <jkridner> karki: any update on getting a board? it seems c-wicks's boards all got sent out to non-GSoC students and it is taking her some time to replenish.
Jun 25 16:03:24 <rseethamraju> VoltVisionSteve: it looks super clear too
Jun 25 16:03:24 <disdi_> hi jkrinder
Jun 25 16:03:26 <vmayoral|pc> rseethamraju: congrats!
Jun 25 16:03:43 <Abhishek_> good to know, rseethamraju :)
Jun 25 16:03:45 <rseethamraju> now to figure out the sending it to a socket
Jun 25 16:04:07 <disdi_> jkrinder: hi
Jun 25 16:05:01 <jkridner> av500: Should I add a menu item on http://beagleboard.org under "Start"?
Jun 25 16:05:10 <karki> jkridner : hi
Jun 25 16:05:17 <jkridner> hi karki, disdi_
Jun 25 16:05:20 <Abhishek_> I wanted to inform everyone that I recorded 1 GB of data (108s) of logic data at 10 MHz today (compressed to 250 MB with LZO) using the BeagleLogic driver and dd [yet again]
Jun 25 16:05:31 * jkridner looks to see what reports have come in (they seem to be last minute)
Jun 25 16:05:47 <karki> jkridner : no update as such on the board!
Jun 25 16:06:03 <karki> and I got the timer to work :)
Jun 25 16:06:25 * karki has no idea why his timer program works! :/
Jun 25 16:06:54 <vmayoral|pc> jkridner: due to some personal matters i'll have to leave a bit earlier today, about  half an hour from now. Hope it's fine
Jun 25 16:07:02 <praveendath92|pc> karki: Lol.
Jun 25 16:07:06 <jkridner> karki, Abhishek_, disdi_, rseethamraju, praveendath92|pc, DiegoTc, vmayoral|pc: can I get you to register your projects at http://beagleboard.org/project/new/edit_project
Jun 25 16:07:26 <Abhishek_> sure, it should be done in some time
Jun 25 16:07:26 <DiegoTc> ok
Jun 25 16:07:34 <jkridner> disdi_: do you have an ETA on your video? I know you have a milestone this week and that should be met first.
Jun 25 16:07:37 <praveendath92|pc> Sure :)
Jun 25 16:08:23 <jkridner> _av500_, av500: Should I add a menu item on http://beagleboard.org under "Start"?
Jun 25 16:09:02 <Abhishek_> jkridner: I'm getting: "The requested page does not currently exist." on authenticating with my gmail ID
Jun 25 16:09:26 <disdi_> jkrinder: I had some midterm milestones goals.... that have not been met yet....so was busy with that
Jun 25 16:09:43 <disdi_> jkrinder: can I request you time till this weekend
Jun 25 16:09:52 <vmayoral|pc> jkridner: i believe mine is up (did it a while ago) http://beagleboard.org/project/BeaglePilot/. Should i do it again?
Jun 25 16:10:13 <jkridner> vmayoral|pc: nope, you are good.
Jun 25 16:10:20 <jkridner> Abhishek_: follow-up with me after the meeting.
Jun 25 16:10:26 <Abhishek_> jkridner: ok
Jun 25 16:10:37 <jkridner> disdi_: please meet your milestones for this week first.
Jun 25 16:10:57 <_av500_> jkridner: yes, but also a line under the "Getting started" button
Jun 25 16:11:02 <_av500_> "lastest SW"
Jun 25 16:11:05 <jkridner> DiegoTc: looks like your status report was in first and VoltVisionSteve is also on-line...
Jun 25 16:11:14 <jkridner> let's discuss your status first quickly.
Jun 25 16:11:20 <DiegoTc> ok
Jun 25 16:11:37 <jkridner> DiegoTc, VoltVisionSteve: do you know when we'll get input from the Guatemala team?
Jun 25 16:11:40 <rseethamraju> alexanderhiam: isn’t PyBBIO also there on the projects page?
Jun 25 16:12:06 <alexanderhiam> rseethamraju: I think someone did put it on there at some point, might need some updating though
Jun 25 16:12:21 <DiegoTc> jkridner: they told me this week. I'm assuming that we will have something before next meeting
Jun 25 16:12:31 <VoltVisionSteve> they have already given Diego input, but we pushed back for some mockups instead of advice...
Jun 25 16:12:55 <VoltVisionSteve> the advice was helpful, but mockups will be more helpful.
Jun 25 16:13:09 <jkridner> DiegoTc: as an FYI, I found out that Jekyll (used by github pages hosting as a static preprocessor) has some gist support, which might be handy for producing the primary static pages: https://gist.github.com/benbalter/5555251
Jun 25 16:13:19 <jkridner> VoltVisionSteve: k
Jun 25 16:13:59 <jkridner> VoltVisionSteve, DiegoTc: are you happy with the URL approach as of now and what we are seeing as the emerging functionality?
Jun 25 16:14:58 <jkridner> DiegoTc: ah, just saw what the default rendered output looks like when embedding a gist. Yuck.
Jun 25 16:15:08 <VoltVisionSteve> I am not convinced yet.
Jun 25 16:15:19 <jkridner> VoltVisionSteve: how do we resolve?
Jun 25 16:15:25 <jkridner> VoltVisionSteve: meeting?
Jun 25 16:15:25 <DiegoTc> jkridner: II'm guessing we will have image errors if it's embbeed
Jun 25 16:15:46 <DiegoTc> embedded
Jun 25 16:16:25 <jkridner> VoltVisionSteve: We are half way through and I think we might need to reset some of our expectations based on progress to make sure what is at the end is usable.
Jun 25 16:16:47 <vmayoral|home> apologies everyone, connection issues
Jun 25 16:16:51 <jkridner> VoltVisionSteve: talk to me off-line about the mid-term evaluation.
Jun 25 16:17:00 <VoltVisionSteve> jkridner, yes, I think at least one or two meetings with the team to focus our expectations.
Jun 25 16:17:25 <jkridner> VoltVisionSteve, DiegoTc: are you both available after this meeting once I wrap-up the new project issue with Abhishek_?
Jun 25 16:17:26 <VoltVisionSteve> jkridner, ok.  I will ping you later today (or tomorrow if you prefer).
Jun 25 16:17:37 <rseethamraju> alexanderhiam: http://beagleboard.org/project/PyBBIO/
Jun 25 16:17:42 <DiegoTc> jkridner: IRC yes
Jun 25 16:18:00 <jkridner> VoltVisionSteve, DiegoTc: I assume we'll also need to schedule another chat (perhaps Google Hangout) tomorrow or Friday?
Jun 25 16:18:00 <VoltVisionSteve> jkridner, yes, I can be.
Jun 25 16:18:13 <jkridner> rseethamraju: thanks
Jun 25 16:18:14 <praveendath92|pc> jkridner: Could you brief on the GSoC midterm evaluation? Any reports besides Melange?
Jun 25 16:18:36 <DiegoTc> jkridner yes, that will be perfect!
Jun 25 16:18:50 <VoltVisionSteve> jkridner, tomorrow or friday is fine for me.
Jun 25 16:19:03 <jkridner> praveendath92|pc: only reports will be on Melange
Jun 25 16:19:24 <jkridner> praveendath92|pc: all students and mentors are required to provide updates in Melange in the next 48 hours or so.
Jun 25 16:19:44 <praveendath92|pc> I submitted my Melange report already. jkridner
Jun 25 16:19:52 <jkridner> https://www.google.com/calendar/render?eid=Z25hMmNib29uZ2FuYTd2bjU4b290bzIxb3MgZ3N1bW1lcm9mY29kZUBt&ctz=America/Los_Angeles&sf=true&output=xml
Jun 25 16:20:08 <disdi_> jkrinder: I too
Jun 25 16:20:14 <Abhishek_> jkridner: I've already submitted that (with a few optional subjective questions yet to be filled up, will clear that soon)
Jun 25 16:20:40 <jkridner> https://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2014
Jun 25 16:21:29 <jkridner> joel_, alexanderhiam, av500 / _av500_, mranostay, panto: any issues with getting mentor evaluations done?
Jun 25 16:21:46 <alexanderhiam> nope
Jun 25 16:22:05 <alexanderhiam> submitted it today, may edit more later
Jun 25 16:22:07 <joel_> jkridner, nope, doing it right now
Jun 25 16:23:22 <jkridner> Moving on from DiegoTc's report (https://groups.google.com/d/msg/beagleboard-gsoc/mPa69fBjkmg/mkfk_cxvHRYJ), praveendath92|pc sent in https://groups.google.com/d/msg/beagleboard-gsoc/mPa69fBjkmg/mkfk_cxvHRYJ
Jun 25 16:24:18 <jkridner> praveendath92|pc: do you have any approach to resolve the issues on libusb and kernel?
Jun 25 16:24:31 <karki> jkridner : I "had" a problem with the timer, I fixed it half an hour ago. Now I'll be moving the wait and stuff to non blocking mode :)
Jun 25 16:24:33 <DiegoTc> jkridner: we contine talking after the end of the meeting?
Jun 25 16:24:54 <jkridner> praveendath92|pc: is the libusb_open_device_with_vid_pid issue a hang-up in getting connected?
Jun 25 16:24:58 <praveendath92|pc> jkridner: That's regarding a debugging tool. I found a book on USB and Android.
Jun 25 16:25:19 <vvu> jkridner: that function i do not think it works on a per interface basis how the kernel works
Jun 25 16:25:27 <vvu> so it cannot get the device from the kernel
Jun 25 16:25:30 <jkridner> DiegoTc: yes, I requested you and VoltVisionSteve hang around after the meeting and after I've addressed Abhishek_'s issue with registering a project.
Jun 25 16:25:33 <praveendath92|pc> jkridner: If I could find out about the adb interface initialization sequence I will be done.
Jun 25 16:25:57 <vvu> praveendath92|pc: i do not think u can do it with libusb to get the logs
Jun 25 16:25:59 <praveendath92|pc> Actually vvu sent that book.
Jun 25 16:26:03 <vvu> you still need a kernel driver
Jun 25 16:26:04 <jkridner> praveendath92|pc: done?
Jun 25 16:26:07 <vvu> that binds to the adb interface
Jun 25 16:26:16 <vvu> and extract logs there
Jun 25 16:26:34 <praveendath92|pc> vvu: No. I'm not counting on libusb. That is why I started a new driver for that interface.
Jun 25 16:26:43 <jkridner> praveendath92|pc: do you just mean done establishing a connection or will the base display and touch functionality be there?
Jun 25 16:27:14 <praveendath92|pc> jkridner: The first priority is to get the display there.
Jun 25 16:27:44 <praveendath92|pc> Once that is done, I shall be having touch and controlling part too.
Jun 25 16:28:16 <jkridner> praveendath92|pc: are you saying you are close to having display functionality working?
Jun 25 16:28:31 <praveendath92|pc> jkridner: Right now, the communication is setup. Testing a possible debugging tool. I have alternatives though.
Jun 25 16:28:33 <jkridner> what is "controlling"?
Jun 25 16:28:48 <praveendath92|pc> jkridner: keyboard and mouse events I meant.
Jun 25 16:28:49 <karki> jkridner : anything else? I'll have to leave early :/ (I think we covered a decent bit of discussion on monday anyway)
Jun 25 16:29:01 <jkridner> karki: k, let's get to https://groups.google.com/d/msg/beagleboard-gsoc/wCj6xtYMT0c/-73tLSs_5-sJ
Jun 25 16:29:11 <praveendath92|pc> jkridner: Communication interface in one and display is another major part,
Jun 25 16:29:16 <jkridner> praveendath92|pc: k. thanks. so, no blocking issues, right?
Jun 25 16:29:25 <praveendath92|pc> Nope. None as of now.
Jun 25 16:29:37 <jkridner> karki: I demo'd your code Monday night....
Jun 25 16:30:14 <karki> jkridner : the issue I mentioned on the mailing list, I solved it
Jun 25 16:30:48 <jkridner> I'm still very concerned with the mapping of BotSpeak into your binary opcodes and I don't see that in your report.
Jun 25 16:31:47 <jkridner> karki: also, are you planning to use StarterWare for the PWM, ADC and other GPIO control?
Jun 25 16:31:54 <karki> looks like I forgot to mention a couple of things in the report :(
Jun 25 16:32:24 <jkridner> karki: can you add to make sure panto is aware. we need to get sync'd up with him.
Jun 25 16:32:40 <jkridner> panto: are you able to join a Google Hangout with us on Monday?
Jun 25 16:32:58 <karki> panto wanted "in PRU" PWM control...... so atleast for PWM it looks like it will be a software implementation
Jun 25 16:33:11 <vmayoral> jkridner: i'll have to take my leave. Please reach me if there's anything you wish to know on my side. All is evolving nicely. ROS integration is already accomplished and will keep advancing in the coming weeks.
Jun 25 16:33:15 <_av500_> praveendath92|pc: you can do adb over wifi too, tried that?
Jun 25 16:33:17 <vmayoral> goodbye everyone!
Jun 25 16:33:34 <jkridner> vmayoral: no blocking issues for you?
Jun 25 16:33:47 <vvu> _av500_: does not work, i tried it back in winter
Jun 25 16:33:49 <praveendath92|pc> _av500_: Nope. I will do that.
Jun 25 16:34:00 <vvu> it's like the adb daemon gets killed
Jun 25 16:34:01 <praveendath92|pc> vvu: It doesn't? :/
Jun 25 16:34:17 <vvu> praveendath92|pc: when i worked on it, it did not work
Jun 25 16:34:21 <vvu> try it now
Jun 25 16:34:29 <jkridner> karki: my preference would be to put PWM into the event loop of the interpreter.... it'll be a bit slower, but will give you a good reason to optimize the inner loop.
Jun 25 16:34:29 <vvu> u need a rooted phone and adbwifi app something
Jun 25 16:34:50 <vvu> that adbwifi app needs su access to change settings in the adbd i think so
Jun 25 16:34:56 <praveendath92|pc> vvu: After a couple of more attempts may be we should post about this on a good Android forum,
Jun 25 16:35:14 * jkridner visually shows frustration with poor communication from #beaglepilot team.
Jun 25 16:35:26 <praveendath92|pc> Both my device are rooted. Rooting won't block.
Jun 25 16:35:53 <vvu> praveendath92|pc: we should go over #android-dev or something maybe they have some clue
Jun 25 16:36:08 <_av500_> praveendath92|pc: in the end, you can add a textview to your app and log to that
Jun 25 16:36:20 <_av500_> as long as its you apps logs
Jun 25 16:36:31 <vvu> _av500_: the oldschool way
Jun 25 16:36:39 <praveendath92|pc> _av500_: Actually I can read the logs after I disconnect.
Jun 25 16:36:48 <_av500_> well, at runtime is more fun
Jun 25 16:36:52 <praveendath92|pc> From adk mode.
Jun 25 16:36:57 <praveendath92|pc> _av500_: True that.
Jun 25 16:37:05 <karki> jkridner : I will talk to panto and put everything on a google doc. I'll share it with you and alexanderhiam . That will make *sure* we all are on the same page :)
Jun 25 16:37:15 <praveendath92|pc> But this isn't too bad, of course not best, for some level of debugging.
Jun 25 16:37:43 <jkridner> thanks karki.
Jun 25 16:37:50 <praveendath92|pc> _av500_: Things would take long but won't get stuck. But yeah I will try on that runtime debugger.
Jun 25 16:38:05 <jkridner> where did disdi_ go?
Jun 25 16:39:07 <praveendath92|pc> vvu: We could use that app developers thread too. He must be good with ADB.
Jun 25 16:39:10 <praveendath92|pc> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=22307019
Jun 25 16:39:37 <vvu> praveendath92|pc: go ahead and send me an email with the thread
Jun 25 16:40:01 <praveendath92|pc> vvu: First I will try the app by myself.
Jun 25 16:40:15 <praveendath92|pc> No WiFi at home so, mobile hotspot.
Jun 25 16:40:15 <vvu> i used that one in winter, maybe something changed
Jun 25 16:40:16 <jkridner> Am I not being frightening enough? I don't mind if people jump in quick and make it clear they are making progress and have no blocking issues, but I don't think interacting with the whole team for 1 hour every week is asking too much!
Jun 25 16:40:28 <jkridner> disdi's report is at https://groups.google.com/d/msg/beagleboard-gsoc/7pXkt-tkg_c/R6vMRf2BrdEJ
Jun 25 16:41:24 * jkridner feels a little less inclined to advocate for passing (but does recognize it could just be a network issue).
Jun 25 16:42:01 <vvu> jkridner: disdi was logged in via web client
Jun 25 16:42:04 <jkridner> was hoping to discuss briefly the technique of using devmem2 to poke hardware registers.
Jun 25 16:42:09 <jkridner> vvu: k. :(
Jun 25 16:43:12 <jkridner> Abhishek_: looking at https://groups.google.com/d/msg/beagleboard-gsoc/R0sCsWK-8JQ/If96Te26HrUJ now
Jun 25 16:43:26 <joel_> jkridner, he had to run some tests so be rebooted
Jun 25 16:43:38 <vvu> praveendath92|pc: you will check now the wifi adb ?
Jun 25 16:43:42 <praveendath92|pc> vvu: I will check and post in the morning? It's 10.30 PM and I'm sleepy today.
Jun 25 16:44:01 <vvu> praveendath92|pc: ah ok. so i can go home from work *where there is no good internet*
Jun 25 16:44:02 <praveendath92|pc> vvu: No, I will try now.
Jun 25 16:44:19 <praveendath92|pc> I will send an email. Whatever it is.
Jun 25 16:44:34 <praveendath92|pc> vvu: You keep going.
Jun 25 16:44:47 <vvu> praveendath92|pc: k
Jun 25 16:45:08 <joel_> jkridner, we set a milestone for this week to help in his review (well, the passing aspect of it), so he's running some more tests now.
Jun 25 16:45:38 <jkridner> Abhishek_: congrats on getting into the main image. I'm looking forward to playing with it that way.
Jun 25 16:45:54 <jkridner> Abhishek_: that is most definitely the approach I'd like to see all the projects take.
Jun 25 16:46:08 <praveendath92|pc> Abhishek_: Congrats :)
Jun 25 16:46:08 <jkridner> Abhishek_: hopefully you'll be looking at submitting to mainline as well?
Jun 25 16:46:24 <jkridner> Abhishek_: panto can probably give you lots of feedback on that.
Jun 25 16:46:28 <Abhishek_> I'll work it out with panto
Jun 25 16:47:58 <panto> ok
Jun 25 16:48:07 <jkridner> Abhishek_: do you understand how to do the non-blocking implementation?
Jun 25 16:48:31 <Abhishek_> jkridner: I'm working on it, running some experiments on a test app
Jun 25 16:49:35 <Abhishek_> poll() runs into an infinite loop for now, I'm working to fix that.
Jun 25 16:49:51 <jkridner> panto: any issue with doing the mentor evaluation?
Jun 25 16:50:20 <panto> -ENOFREETIME
Jun 25 16:50:30 <panto> pretty busy on multiple fronts, but I'll get around to do it
Jun 25 16:50:44 <jkridner> panto: deadline is about 48 hours from now. student won't be paid without it.
Jun 25 16:51:09 <panto> ok, got it
Jun 25 16:51:18 <jkridner> panto: worst case, ping me privately on pass/fail and I can handle.
Jun 25 16:51:26 <panto> ok
Jun 25 16:51:45 <jkridner> panto: Monday meeting with Chris a possibility?
Jun 25 16:52:28 <jkridner> panto: the YouTube recordings can probably give you a feel for the productivity, but we can adjust based on your limited time.
Jun 25 16:52:33 <panto> sure
Jun 25 16:52:38 <jkridner> panto: thanks
Jun 25 16:53:57 <jkridner> Abhishek_: sounds like things are moving forward. You still getting feedback from mranostay?
Jun 25 16:54:35 <Abhishek_> mranostay told me he has tried out the kernel driver on BBW and reported it works okay
Jun 25 16:55:04 <jkridner> mranostay: thanks for filling out the mentor evaluation btw.
Jun 25 16:55:49 <jkridner> vmayoral sent in a report at https://groups.google.com/d/msg/beagleboard-gsoc/BISQ3fJj3P4/QWa1Xa3moi0J, but has left.
Jun 25 16:56:12 <jkridner> rseethamraju: thank you for https://groups.google.com/d/msg/beagleboard-gsoc/i4VLmPyWFAI/EbRI9GWdY9kJ
Jun 25 16:56:29 <jkridner> rseethamraju: congrats on the GStreamer demo.
Jun 25 16:57:02 <rseethamraju> thanks. though there’s a lot to still do
Jun 25 16:57:23 <jkridner> rseethamraju, alexanderhiam: personally, I've just been using python-cv.
Jun 25 16:57:57 <rseethamraju> thats open cv’s python version?
Jun 25 16:57:58 <jkridner> rseethamraju, alexanderhiam: can you describe what makes this better for certain cases?
Jun 25 16:58:03 <jkridner> rseethamraju: yeah
Jun 25 16:58:14 <alexanderhiam> jkridner: py-gst should be able to handle saving images, recording videos and stream over tcp without all the extra cv stuff
Jun 25 16:58:51 <jkridner> rseethamraju: you still blocked getting eqep to work?
Jun 25 16:59:05 <vvu> jkridner: praveendath92|pc i'm out! have a nice day !
Jun 25 16:59:12 <rseethamraju> VoltVisionSteve is testing that
Jun 25 16:59:27 <jkridner> alexanderhiam: the tcp stuff is certainly something not in cv.
Jun 25 16:59:34 <alexanderhiam> jkridner: we've been having trouble with the driver, always reports a position of 0 for me
Jun 25 16:59:43 <mranostay> here
Jun 25 16:59:47 <jkridner> alexanderhiam: lots of people having success with it.
Jun 25 17:00:04 <alexanderhiam> gstreamer can stream in formats that the html5 <video> tag supports, which would be neat
Jun 25 17:00:16 <jkridner> mranostay: hi. we've wrapped up Abhishek_'s status. please say if something needs to be discussed in the group.
Jun 25 17:00:27 * mranostay scrolls up
Jun 25 17:00:32 <alexanderhiam> jkridner: VoltVisionSteve is testing it on his bone now, might just be me
Jun 25 17:00:39 <jkridner> alexanderhiam: those sound like good reasons.
Jun 25 17:00:42 <rseethamraju> jkridner: gstreamer because its easier that way to integrate with BBIOServer
Jun 25 17:01:01 <VoltVisionSteve> I will report success with eQep testing tomorrow...I found some typos in the eQep2 docs on github
Jun 25 17:01:14 <jkridner> alexanderhiam, VoltVisionSteve: I know pdp7 just posted some videos of using the eqep and lots of people have been reporting success on http://beagleboard.org/discuss
Jun 25 17:01:26 <jkridner> VoltVisionSteve: thanks.
Jun 25 17:01:29 * Abhishek_ was just about to point to pdp7's tests
Jun 25 17:01:39 <alexanderhiam> yeah I saw that too, gotta read up on that stuff
Jun 25 17:02:15 <rseethamraju> VoltVisionSteve: I just realised I have to change the names of the .dts files in the library. I’ll add that within an hour after this is done
Jun 25 17:02:19 <jkridner> rseethamraju: the overall progress is something that isn't clear to me in the reports. would be great if you could have an overall checklist in your reports. also lets me know what I can try out myself.
Jun 25 17:02:50 <jkridner> rseethamraju, alexanderhiam: would also be good to know when to pull in the library and updates into the default image. not sure if you are coordinating with rcn-ee on that.
Jun 25 17:03:27 <alexanderhiam> jkridner, rseethamraju: it's a little scattered at the moment, partly because I have to change licenses before we can include the spi module we're using in the main repo
Jun 25 17:03:48 <jkridner> rseethamraju: any blocking issues outside of eqep?
Jun 25 17:03:51 <alexanderhiam> that should happen in the next day or two, after which it will be ready for pip/apt-get distribution
Jun 25 17:04:11 <jkridner> alexanderhiam: thanks.
Jun 25 17:04:24 * alexanderhiam is the blocking issue at the moment :P
Jun 25 17:05:12 <jkridner> alexanderhiam: thanks for getting the mentor evaluation completed at least. :-)
Jun 25 17:05:21 * jkridner slams the gavel just 5 minutes over.
Jun 25 17:05:37 <jkridner> Abhishek_: what is the issue with creating a project entry?
Jun 25 17:05:50 <jkridner> Abhishek_: can you provide a screen cap on imgur?
Jun 25 17:05:54 <Abhishek_> k, sec
Jun 25 17:07:13 <rseethamraju> alexanderhiam: the project page has to be updated?
Jun 25 17:07:14 <Abhishek_> jkridner: http://s30.postimg.org/igup04ug1/Screenshot_from_2014_06_26_00_06_05.png
Jun 25 17:08:48 <jkridner> hmmm... URL should be http://beagleboard.org/project/new/edit_project, not http://beagleboard.org/project/new
Jun 25 17:09:03 <alexanderhiam> jkridner: can the beagleboard.org projects be editied? (someone else submitted PyBBIO a while back and it could use some snazzing up)
Jun 25 17:09:20 <jkridner> alexanderhiam: yes.
Jun 25 17:09:43 <Abhishek_> jkridner: it seems to be redirecting to : http://beagleboard.org/login?target=/project/new/
Jun 25 17:10:42 <jkridner> Abhishek_: upon successful login, it should take you to http://beagleboard.org/project/new/edit_project
Jun 25 17:10:54 <praveendath92|pc> jkridner: Same issue as Abhishek_
Jun 25 17:11:10 <Abhishek_> jkridner: That's where I am stuck, after I login, it gives me an error
Jun 25 17:11:19 <jkridner> praveendath92|pc, Abhishek_: maybe I have a browser compatibility issue. Which browser are you using?
Jun 25 17:11:31 <praveendath92|pc> Chrome on Linux
Jun 25 17:11:32 <Abhishek_> Firefox
Jun 25 17:12:24 * jkridner is seeing issues with using gmail logins at the moment for some reason.
Jun 25 17:12:31 <jkridner> I wonder if Google changed something.
Jun 25 17:12:39 <rseethamraju> jkridner: I’m supposed to have done the C extensions and the Camera library by now. I did the 1. C extension (thats been pulled to the main repository), 2. eQEP,  3. SPI - this got preponed. The main library is done. The example will be done by Sunday. 4. Camera - which will hopefully get over by Sunday too.
Jun 25 17:12:44 <praveendath92|pc> jkridner: I tried wordpress too.
Jun 25 17:13:24 <rseethamraju> jkridner: and no blocking issues apart from eQEP
Jun 25 17:13:45 <jkridner> praveendath92|pc: Can you go to http://beagleboard.org/about and use the login box at the bottom of the page?
Jun 25 17:14:36 <Abhishek_> jkridner: no change. I get the same page
Jun 25 17:14:37 <praveendath92|pc> jkridner: trying
Jun 25 17:14:57 <Abhishek_> my logjn name doesn't appear below as expected
Jun 25 17:15:18 * jkridner looks for a clock skew issue
Jun 25 17:15:37 <jkridner> Abhishek_: at the bottom of the page, is the box still there or is it filled in with your login id?
Jun 25 17:15:45 <jkridner> if it is still the box, the login failed.
Jun 25 17:15:50 <jkridner> Abhishek_: k
Jun 25 17:15:55 <praveendath92|pc> jkridner: Still there.
Jun 25 17:16:22 <jkridner> k, looks like clock skew was the issue.
Jun 25 17:16:24 <praveendath92|pc> jkridner: It worked
Jun 25 17:16:25 * jkridner adds a crontab
Jun 25 17:16:48 <praveendath92|pc> I used Google+ profile link and it worked.
Jun 25 17:16:55 <jkridner> hmmm...
Jun 25 17:17:08 * jkridner had a crontab with ubuntu server and it was off by over 2 minutes!
Jun 25 17:17:40 * jkridner finds openid authentication issues usually have to do with clock skew issues.
Jun 25 17:18:07 <jkridner> DiegoTc, VoltVisionSteve: I hope this solves the issue for alexanderhiam, praveendath92|pc and Abhishek_. You still around to discuss bone101 issues?
Jun 25 17:18:15 <DiegoTc> yes
Jun 25 17:18:18 <DiegoTc> I'm here
Jun 25 17:18:33 <VoltVisionSteve> yep
Jun 25 17:18:37 <jkridner> VoltVisionSteve: can you push us on your doubts here/now?
Jun 25 17:19:31 <VoltVisionSteve> ok, the graphic design is not there yet....we know that....we hope to have that worked out within the next 1-2 weeks and we have to push hard to make it happen.
Jun 25 17:19:59 <VoltVisionSteve> Regarding the backend...I look forward to testing putting tutorials up there, but I dont think it is near testing phase yet.
Jun 25 17:20:09 <jkridner> VoltVisionSteve: right. we are well aligned on the priority of that and that your external help is need to make it really acceptable.
Jun 25 17:21:08 <jkridner> VoltVisionSteve: is getting the editing functionality your biggest concern or something with functionality you've already seen?
Jun 25 17:22:13 <VoltVisionSteve> I just dont see the peices coming together yet...and not sure how I can help on the backend.
Jun 25 17:22:58 <VoltVisionSteve> jkridner, is the project heading the same direction as your original vision?
Jun 25 17:23:03 <jkridner> VoltVisionSteve: we've demonstrated backing functionality in bits-and-pieces. I think we just need to be clear to DiegoTc what is the next functionality we'd like to see on his main demo page.
Jun 25 17:23:21 <DiegoTc> VoltVisionSteve: I get your point, probably http://diegotc.github.io/bone101/Support/GSOC/app/views/create.html is not the best way for creating tutorials but the code is ready, I will only need to call the javascript functions on the new events.
Jun 25 17:23:56 <jkridner> VoltVisionSteve: same direction with the exception of the visuals and a bit slow in terms of bringing in the functionality----but the direction is still right.
Jun 25 17:24:35 <jkridner> VoltVisionSteve: there have been compromises I didn't anticipate along the way of having a "fork me" button and making new content easily discoverable that need to be addressed.
Jun 25 17:25:28 <VoltVisionSteve> should we consider having us 3 meet outside of the Wed noon to keep momentum hot?  Hangout or otherwise?
Jun 25 17:25:37 * jkridner isn't all that happy with the hard-coded card definitions
Jun 25 17:25:50 <jkridner> DiegoTc: it should be more free-form with a way to easily fork good examples.
Jun 25 17:26:06 <VoltVisionSteve> I want to keep aligned with jkridner's vision for the community...remember people have to use this thing!!!
Jun 25 17:26:07 <jkridner> VoltVisionSteve: absolutely. Hangout Friday?
Jun 25 17:26:27 <VoltVisionSteve> yes Fri hangout is great1
Jun 25 17:26:29 <VoltVisionSteve> !
Jun 25 17:26:47 <DiegoTc> ok
Jun 25 17:26:53 <jkridner> VoltVisionSteve: the way it is, I don't see it replacing http://beagleboard.org/support any time soon. :(
Jun 25 17:27:10 <jkridner> er, http://beagleboard.org/Support/bone101
Jun 25 17:27:27 <VoltVisionSteve> What time fri?  Try to keep it to <1hr.
Jun 25 17:27:52 <DiegoTc> jkridner: what do you mean with hard-coded card definitions?
Jun 25 17:28:25 <praveendath92|pc> jkridner: _av500_ http://beagleboard.org/project/bard/
Jun 25 17:28:30 <praveendath92|pc> Done :)
Jun 25 17:28:40 <_av500_> ths
Jun 25 17:28:42 <_av500_> thx
Jun 25 17:30:51 <DiegoTc> jkridner, VoltVisionSteve  can we have it at 6:PM your hour?
Jun 25 17:31:31 * VoltVisionSteve checking calendar
Jun 25 17:31:45 <jkridner> yikes. kinda late. Wife usually wants me around that time.
Jun 25 17:32:15 <mranostay> jkridner: have her join in the hangout :P
Jun 25 17:32:30 <VoltVisionSteve> right....can we do it earlier?  Jkridner whats the latest for you 4pm?  earlier?
Jun 25 17:32:54 <DiegoTc> 4pm is 6 for you :(
Jun 25 17:33:22 <VoltVisionSteve> I think I would prefer noon EST (10am honduras), but I can shift abit
Jun 25 17:34:38 <DiegoTc> mmm I don't have access to an decent internet connection for a hangout at that time. We can do it IRC
Jun 25 17:34:41 <jkridner> _av500_: let me know if you have feedback on where to put the link on the website.
Jun 25 17:34:59 <jkridner> DiegoTc: what other times do you have good internet.
Jun 25 17:35:12 <jkridner> I could do that time on Thursday (tomorrow) from my hackerspace.
Jun 25 17:36:23 <DiegoTc> 7pm tomorrow your hour? Mom comes from a trip and she will have me for a hour listening of her trip
Jun 25 17:36:41 <_av500_> jkridner: will do
Jun 25 17:36:48 <VoltVisionSteve> DiegoTc, jkridner , Thu is fine....anytime is fine.
Jun 25 17:37:16 <jkridner> 7pm is when my hackerspace meeting starts, so I'd need earlier. :(
Jun 25 17:37:48 <jkridner> hmmmm.
Jun 25 17:39:40 <VoltVisionSteve> jkridner, I never told you this, but when I was teaching myself HTML/CSS/Javascript using Bone101, I found that the cloud9 directory structure was very confusing....especially for a beginner trying to learn how to serve up their own webpages from the BBB.
Jun 25 17:39:42 <DiegoTc> jkridner: yourhackerspace meeting is more than one hour?
Jun 25 17:40:29 <VoltVisionSteve> lots of unused files....attic....it was all very confusing....maybe its just me.
Jun 25 17:41:01 <VoltVisionSteve> (sorry to change the subject, I just thought of it)
Jun 25 17:41:18 <jkridner> well, attic is meant to be that... an attic. I can remove.
Jun 25 17:42:17 <VoltVisionSteve> for a beginner trying to make sense of what is important and not...there was just things everywhere.  A beginner doesnt know whats needed for the webpage and whats not.
Jun 25 17:43:56 <Abhishek_> jkridner: http://beagleboard.org/project/beaglelogic
Jun 25 17:43:56 <jkridner> VoltVisionSteve: removed attic from main repo so that it'll get removed in future images.
Jun 25 17:44:43 <VoltVisionSteve> OK, Ill look at it again tonight....anyway, back to the Thu meeting setup.
Jun 25 17:45:59 <jkridner> alexanderhiam, rseethamraju: http://beagleboard.org/project/PyBBIO/ doesn't have the "Google Summer of Code" flag. Please make a new project or add the flag.
Jun 25 17:46:20 <jkridner> VoltVisionSteve: I just have no idea when to do it if DiegoTc isn't available until after 6/7.
Jun 25 17:46:53 <jkridner> I think we have to drop back to IRC, but I'm concerned that doesn't give us enough communications bandwidth based on the types of architecture issues we are struggling with.
Jun 25 17:47:03 <VoltVisionSteve> DiegoTc, whats the earliest in the morning you can have good internet?
Jun 25 17:47:09 <VoltVisionSteve> tomorrow)
Jun 25 17:47:24 <DiegoTc> 6AM your hour
Jun 25 17:47:45 <DiegoTc> is that to early for you?
Jun 25 17:48:02 <jkridner> not too early for me.
Jun 25 17:48:28 <VoltVisionSteve> ok for me then.
Jun 25 17:48:33 <rseethamraju> jkridner: ok
Jun 25 17:48:34 <alexanderhiam> jkridner, rseethamraju: I just added the gsoc flag
Jun 25 17:48:46 <rseethamraju> oh cool
Jun 25 17:49:04 <alexanderhiam> rseethamraju: we should probably have a snazzy logo...
Jun 25 17:49:21 <rseethamraju> yes we should!
Jun 25 17:49:37 <alexanderhiam> any ideas?
Jun 25 17:49:43 * VoltVisionSteve has to get back to troubleshooting these boards....see jkridner and DiegoTc tomorrow morning on hangout @ 6am EST.
Jun 25 17:49:59 <DiegoTc> ok
Jun 25 17:50:07 <rseethamraju> we’d need someone who’s great with photoshop though
Jun 25 17:50:10 <Abhishek_> jkridner, mranostay and ds2: would like to invite you for a BeagleLogic G+ Hangout in a few days from now
Jun 25 17:50:32 <DiegoTc> jkridner: what do you mean with hard-coded card definitions
Jun 25 17:51:01 <mranostay> ds2 is still on holiday in europe iirc
Jun 25 17:51:31 <rseethamraju> alexanderhiam: the beagleboard logo together with the arduino?
Jun 25 17:51:33 <mranostay> irc usually works best for me since i'm rarely home  at a stretch of time
Jun 25 17:52:06 <alexanderhiam> rseethamraju: we'd have to check licenses / get permission
Jun 25 17:52:13 <rseethamraju> oh
Jun 25 17:52:16 <alexanderhiam> it also doesn't relate to Python at all
Jun 25 17:52:27 <rseethamraju> yes
Jun 25 17:52:46 <jkridner> DiegoTc: I mean for the bone101 repo itself, we might not want everything stored in a gist... just forks in gists.
Jun 25 17:53:02 <alexanderhiam> boris and a Python might be neat though
Jun 25 17:53:14 <rseethamraju> the only think I can think of is the beagle dog with the arduino’s infinity as a bowtie
Jun 25 17:53:20 <jkridner> Abhishek_: k. looking forward to the hangout. Try to do a Hangout on Air so that it is recorded.
Jun 25 17:53:22 <rseethamraju> which is extremely weird so
Jun 25 17:53:24 <alexanderhiam> hehe
Jun 25 17:53:37 <alexanderhiam> I don't think we need the Arduino logo
Jun 25 17:53:39 <DiegoTc> mmm I don't get you jkridner
Jun 25 17:53:51 <rseethamraju> I didn’t know hes called boris!
Jun 25 17:53:52 <jkridner> DiegoTc, VoltVisionSteve: I will send out a Hangout on Air invite for tomorrow at 6AM Eastern time.
Jun 25 17:54:23 <jkridner> VoltVisionSteve: anything else to cover today?
Jun 25 17:54:51 <VoltVisionSteve> jkridner, nope.  Thx for everything and talk soon!
Jun 25 17:54:54 <rseethamraju> alexanderhiam: should we use the python powered logo?
Jun 25 17:55:03 <jkridner> DiegoTc: if I've said something about hard-coded, I simply mean something that is in the static image within the main server rather than something dynamic from gist.
Jun 25 17:55:51 <alexanderhiam> rseethamraju: meh
Jun 25 17:55:55 <rseethamraju> I’m guessing that we wouldn’t need permission for that
Jun 25 17:56:03 <alexanderhiam> I'd rather have something more custom
Jun 25 17:56:08 <rseethamraju> yah that won’t look good
Jun 25 17:56:25 <rseethamraju> python’s logo doesn’t look nice
Jun 25 17:56:39 <alexanderhiam> jkridner: what's Boris' license?
Jun 25 17:58:23 <jkridner> CC-BY-SA, but we do license him differently for use in commercial and non-open-source applications (like books and boards), typically for a fee.
Jun 25 17:58:37 <rseethamraju> but since you were saying you wanted to add support for other boards too wouldn’t boris be too beagleboard
Jun 25 17:59:06 <alexanderhiam> jkridner: thinking about a logo for PyBBIO, maybe Boris-based
Jun 25 17:59:12 <jkridner> you can use him in commercial open source (ie, SA), but it is bad juju if you make it look BeagleBoard.org official.
Jun 25 17:59:57 <jkridner> alexanderhiam: you can see the CC-BY-SA note at the bottom of http://beagleboard.org
Jun 25 18:00:27 <alexanderhiam> ok thanks
Jun 25 18:02:02 <jkridner> alexanderhiam: http://beagleboard.org/logo is an example of a commercial license (without the business terms)
Jun 25 18:03:19 <alexanderhiam> nice
Jun 25 18:04:38 <Abhishek_> jkridner: who designs the logo that is used on the websites (e.g. that replicape or OpenROV graphic)?
Jun 25 18:05:43 <jkridner> Abhishek_: you mean the stuff at http://beagleboard.org/media and in the banners?
Jun 25 18:06:02 <jkridner> Abhishek_: that was done by TI or contractors for TI then donated to BeagleBoard.org
Jun 25 18:06:14 <Abhishek_> yep
Jun 25 18:06:29 <jkridner> Abhishek_: same as the original Boris image.
Jun 25 18:07:50 <jkridner> Abhishek_: I actually don't known the individual as I have always gone through the TI Internet Marketing team and individuals who aren't the graphic editors.
Jun 25 18:08:28 <Abhishek_> I see
Jun 25 20:15:51 <rseethamraju> alexanderhiam: ping!
Jun 25 20:15:55 <alexanderhiam> pong
Jun 25 20:16:34 <rseethamraju> the spi: I changed the mode to md and then reinstalled PyBBIO
Jun 25 20:16:49 <rseethamraju> but it says SyntaxError: ("can't assign to function call", ('/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/PyBBIO-0.8.5-py2.7-linux-armv7l.egg/bbio/platform/beaglebone/spi.py', 62, None, 'self.spidev.mode()=mode\n'))
Jun 25 20:17:26 <alexanderhiam> try a 'pip uninstall PyBBIO' then reinstall
Jun 25 20:17:32 <rseethamraju> its supposed to say self.spidev.md()=md\n’
Jun 25 20:17:49 <rseethamraju> and thats whats there when I navigate to the file
Jun 25 20:18:01 <rseethamraju> yes I did the uninstall and then installed
Jun 25 20:19:58 <alexanderhiam> oh, your function argument is still called mode: https://github.com/rseetham/PyBBIO/blob/spi/bbio/platform/beaglebone/spi.py#L55
Jun 25 20:20:37 <rseethamraju> oh! thanks
Jun 25 20:23:19 <rseethamraju> alexanderhiam: it still says the same thing! and I don’t know why there is a \n
Jun 25 20:23:58 <rseethamraju> its like I made the change but its taking the file before the change
Jun 25 20:24:22 <alexanderhiam> is there a bbio/platform/beaglebone/spi.pyc file?
Jun 25 20:25:39 <rseethamraju> alexanderhiam: no only config_common has a pyc
Jun 25 20:26:40 <alexanderhiam> weird...
Jun 25 20:27:29 <rseethamraju> I’m going to go into /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/PyBBIO-0.8.5-py2.7-linux-armv7l.egg/bbio/platform/beaglebone/spi.py and change it there and see if the example works
Jun 25 20:27:58 <rseethamraju> because this way SPI1 and SPI0 aren’t available
Jun 25 20:28:52 <rseethamraju> but then I’d have to complie it
Jun 25 20:29:13 <rseethamraju> alexanderhiam: can you pull mine and check if its working for you?
Jun 25 20:29:35 <alexanderhiam> yeah, I'll do that in a few
Jun 25 20:30:24 <rseethamraju> ok
Jun 25 20:35:20 <rseethamraju> alexanderhiam: we need the camera to record audio too?
Jun 25 20:35:58 <alexanderhiam> that would be ideal, maybe have pass in an argument to enable/disable it
Jun 25 20:38:58 <Abhishek_> alexanderhiam: how could you pipe the video received on the PC end to openCV from processing?
Jun 25 20:39:04 <Abhishek_> *for
Jun 25 20:40:10 <alexanderhiam> Abhishek_: the streaming will create a gstreamer pipeline, so any client could stream the video from that
Jun 25 20:41:05 <Abhishek_> I see, it's definitely a killer feature IMO
Jun 25 20:42:05 <alexanderhiam> I agree, it should be awesome
Jun 25 20:42:18 <rseethamraju> yup
Jun 25 20:43:13 <rseethamraju> so since I’ll create the pipeline in python, if the audio is needed only then I’ll add that part of the pipeline
Jun 25 20:43:52 <alexanderhiam> rseethamraju: sounds good
Jun 25 20:54:52 <rseethamraju> alexanderhiam: there is a ridiculus amount of formats to chose from at EVERY stage!!
Jun 25 20:55:09 <alexanderhiam> yup
Jun 25 20:55:19 <rseethamraju> its crazy!
Jun 25 20:55:20 <Abhishek_> jkridner: non-blocking I/O is no longer "blocking". Should get on the sigrok bindings tomorrow :)
Jun 25 20:56:03 <Abhishek_> Like x264 and stuff?
Jun 25 21:04:22 <rseethamraju> alexanderhiam: so theora/ogg is supported by google chrome, firefox and android ; manual install for ie and safari; not supported by iOS
Jun 25 21:04:55 <rseethamraju> and h.264 is supported by everyone except firefox
Jun 25 21:05:08 <rseethamraju> so which one should I do?
Jun 25 21:05:51 <Abhishek_> Would it be possible for you to check what is running on the other side and choose accordingly?
Jun 25 21:06:20 <alexanderhiam> we could pass in an argument to choose
Jun 25 21:06:32 <alexanderhiam> html5 supports MP4, WebM and Ogg
Jun 25 21:06:34 <alexanderhiam> http://www.w3schools.com/html/html5_video.asp
Jun 25 21:07:22 <alexanderhiam> if we could only do one I'd prefer WebM or Ogg because they're open
Jun 25 21:08:08 <Abhishek_> x264 is ubiquitous but patents and stuff, yes
Jun 25 21:09:10 <alexanderhiam> yeah
Jun 25 21:09:19 <alexanderhiam> also the oly one supported by safari
Jun 25 21:09:22 <alexanderhiam> only*
Jun 25 21:09:34 <alexanderhiam> gotta love apple
Jun 25 21:09:40 <Abhishek_> rseethamraju: you on mac?
Jun 25 21:10:18 * Abhishek_ takes a bite off apple
Jun 25 21:10:33 <rseethamraju> Abhishek_: yes
Jun 25 21:10:39 <rseethamraju> but ogg is better
Jun 25 21:11:10 <rseethamraju> I used h264 for for my project it took very long I think it  takes more memory
Jun 25 21:11:35 <Abhishek_> I see
Jun 25 21:11:51 <rseethamraju> anyway I’ll write for ogg. If I can get that right adding extra stuff shouldn’t be too hard
Jun 25 21:12:22 <rseethamraju> Abhishek_: you on linux?
Jun 25 21:12:27 <rseethamraju> or windows?
Jun 25 21:12:41 <Abhishek_> Yup, Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
Jun 25 21:12:48 <rseethamraju> cool
Jun 25 21:13:07 <rseethamraju> there’s just too many formats!!
Jun 25 21:13:50 <Abhishek_> I encountered them while recording my video presentation
Jun 25 21:14:37 <Abhishek_> Apple tries to sugarcoat stuff while Linux spoils you for choice :P
Jun 25 21:15:50 <rseethamraju> alexanderhiam: how do I set up the ip address I want it to send to?
Jun 25 21:16:03 <rseethamraju> I mean how to I choose an IP?
Jun 25 21:16:15 <rseethamraju> is it local host and different port?
Jun 25 21:16:31 <rseethamraju> no local host is on the same comp
Jun 25 21:16:35 <alexanderhiam> just use 'localhost' or '127.0.0.1' and have the user pass in a port
Jun 25 21:17:00 <alexanderhiam> the client then connects to the bone's ip on that port
Jun 25 21:17:09 <rseethamraju> no I mean for testng now
Jun 25 21:17:57 <rseethamraju> I have to put that webpage from yday in /va/www/
Jun 25 21:18:10 <rseethamraju>  /var/www/
Jun 25 21:18:39 <alexanderhiam> oh yeah, then put the bone's IP address in the video tag, it will only work with localhost if you're runnign the browser on the bone
Jun 25 21:18:43 <rseethamraju> and stream to localhost:sameportno?
Jun 25 21:19:05 <rseethamraju> oh ok
Jun 25 21:20:21 <rseethamraju> alexanderhiam: so I have to make a .html inside /var/www\?
Jun 25 21:21:04 <alexanderhiam> yeah, move the bone101 stuff in there into a subfolder and create an index.html
Jun 25 21:22:24 <rseethamraju> alexamderhiam: there’s nothing in that folder for me
Jun 25 21:22:58 <rseethamraju> I meant alexanderhiam
Jun 25 21:23:20 <alexanderhiam> what do you get when you go to the bone's ip in the browser?
Jun 25 21:24:38 <rseethamraju> the /support/bone101
Jun 25 21:25:07 <rseethamraju> wow! my board is acting crazy. there’s nothing there when I do an ls
Jun 25 21:25:50 <alexanderhiam> ah, my bb must be outdated, either Apache is serving from elsewhere or node.js is serving on port 80 now
Jun 25 21:28:03 <rseethamraju> mines on Linux beaglebone 3.8.13-bone47 #1 SMP Fri Apr 11 01:36:09 UTC 2014 armv7l GNU/Linux
Jun 25 21:29:43 <rseethamraju> alexanderhiam: its on port 80
Jun 25 21:30:35 <Abhishek_> alexanderhiam: looks like it's node.js at work
Jun 25 21:32:41 <alexanderhiam> rseethamraju: you can just save the html file on your pc and double click it
Jun 25 21:33:01 <rseethamraju> ok
Jun 25 21:48:23 <rseethamraju> alexanderhiam: so first nothing shows up. then when I hit ctrl+C it dumps the last image onto the browser!
Jun 25 21:49:48 <alexanderhiam> rseethamraju: well I'd say that's progress!
Jun 25 21:50:09 <rseethamraju> yup
Jun 25 21:50:47 <rseethamraju> alexanderhiam: I got a debug error though so I’m googling that now
Jun 25 22:00:50 <rseethamraju> alexanderhiam: its having a 4s lag
Jun 25 22:00:56 <rseethamraju> but its streaming
Jun 25 22:01:56 <alexanderhiam> awesome!
Jun 25 22:02:10 <alexanderhiam> are you setting a buffer size anywhere?
Jun 25 22:02:50 <rseethamraju> no but a framerate
Jun 25 22:03:17 <rseethamraju> so if I change it’ll respond faster I think
Jun 25 22:03:35 <rseethamraju> I’m using tcp now
Jun 25 22:03:44 <rseethamraju> I’ll try a udp sink too
Jun 25 22:05:52 <rseethamraju> alexanderhiam: udpsink give a 3s lag
Jun 25 22:06:19 <alexanderhiam> with VLC as the client?
Jun 25 22:07:06 <rseethamraju> actually its all the same!
Jun 25 22:07:15 <rseethamraju> I’ll try vlc now
Jun 25 22:09:57 <rseethamraju> alexanderhiam: VLC is saying can’t open
Jun 25 22:10:16 <alexanderhiam> how were you watching the udp stream?
Jun 25 22:12:05 <rseethamraju> on the browser. I pasted the html file from yday in an index.html and opened it from my comp
Jun 25 22:12:26 <rseethamraju> alexanderhiam: should I use tcp or udp?
Jun 25 22:13:13 <alexanderhiam> I though html5 didn't support udp streams...
Jun 25 22:13:18 <alexanderhiam> what browser?
Jun 25 22:13:58 <rseethamraju> alexanderhiam: chrome
Jun 25 22:14:05 <rseethamraju> gst-launch-0.10 v4l2src ! 'video/x-raw-yuv,width=640,height=480,framerate=30/1' ! theoraenc ! queue ! oggmux ! tcpserversink host=udpclientsink host=192.168.2.43 port=5000 sync-method=2
Jun 25 22:14:34 <rseethamraju> thats the one that works. tcp uses tcpclientsink
Jun 25 22:17:02 <alexanderhiam> that looks weird, it seems to have a combination of server and client settings
Jun 25 22:17:59 <alexanderhiam> btw, I just got PyBBIO working for distribution, I've uploaded it to the PyPI testing db and it installs: https://testpypi.python.org/pypi/PyBBIO/0.9
Jun 25 22:18:20 <rseethamraju> it worked for tcpsink and udpsink too
Jun 25 22:18:26 <rseethamraju> cool!!
Jun 25 22:22:25 <rseethamraju> alexanderhiam: though it keeps giving this warning WARNING: from element /GstPipeline:pipeline0/GstTCPServerSink:tcpserversink0: Internal data flow problem.
Jun 25 22:22:25 <rseethamraju> Additional debug info:
Jun 25 22:22:26 <rseethamraju> gstbasesink.c(3638): gst_base_sink_chain_unlocked (): /GstPipeline:pipeline0/GstTCPServerSink:tcpserversink0:
Jun 25 22:22:27 <rseethamraju> Received buffer without a new-segment. Assuming timestamps start from 0.
Jun 25 22:25:31 <alexanderhiam> huh
Jun 25 22:26:24 <rseethamraju> nothing I’m trying something else
Jun 25 22:31:14 <rseethamraju> alexanderhiam: isn’t the default password of the bbb temppwd?
Jun 25 22:31:40 <alexanderhiam> I think it is on the newer debian images
Jun 25 22:32:08 <rseethamraju> I got it
Jun 25 22:36:19 <rseethamraju> alexanderhiam: its not that bad. but it has a 4s delay that I don’t know how to eliminate
Jun 25 22:36:39 <alexanderhiam> we might just have to live with that
Jun 25 22:36:43 <rseethamraju> and this is w/o the audio
Jun 25 22:37:10 <alexanderhiam> I'd say use that to at least get a first version of the webcam library
Jun 25 22:37:23 <rseethamraju> I’ll start writing the python library and while doing that if I come across anything new I can keep adding them
Jun 25 22:37:34 <alexanderhiam> cool
Jun 25 22:37:36 <rseethamraju> ya.
Jun 25 22:37:46 <rseethamraju> so its 4:10 am now
Jun 25 22:38:04 <alexanderhiam> oops!
Jun 25 22:38:18 <rseethamraju> I’m going to sleep. I’ll try and get it to atleat work sortof by tomorrows metting
Jun 25 22:38:24 <alexanderhiam> ok
Jun 25 22:38:27 <rseethamraju> ya I didn’t notice
Jun 25 22:38:33 <rseethamraju> but atleat its working
Jun 25 22:38:42 <alexanderhiam> yeah that's great
Jun 25 22:38:43 <rseethamraju> somewhat!
Jun 25 22:39:06 <rseethamraju> its not getting stuck either
Jun 25 22:39:25 <rseethamraju> the video we did for the project was slower and got stuck
Jun 25 22:39:59 <alexanderhiam> cool
Jun 25 22:39:59 <rseethamraju> I ran it continously for 15 min and it didn’t get stuch so that’s good too
Jun 25 22:40:20 <rseethamraju> anyway I’m going to sleep now!
Jun 25 22:40:32 <rseethamraju> oh ya the SPI?
Jun 25 22:40:45 <rseethamraju> tomorrow
Jun 25 22:40:49 <alexanderhiam> I just merged the SPI in with the new package structure and it installed fine
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