**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Jul 27 03:00:00 2014 Jul 27 03:36:25 vvu : I wrote about 1K lines of doc 2 weeks ago. Trust me it's more fun than the PRU timer :) Jul 27 03:37:32 cool I got my original nick back :) Jul 27 05:06:19 morning Jul 27 12:50:01 hmm, still some more bootstrapping Jul 27 15:56:02 * karki has EBay day at college tomorrow :( Jul 27 15:56:53 ebay day ? Jul 27 16:07:53 vvu : ebay comes to campus to attract people to join. Jul 27 16:08:07 so hack an interview with em Jul 27 16:08:16 frankly I want to join an embedded systems related company Jul 27 16:08:36 ebay is a bit webish for my liking ;) Jul 27 16:08:50 eh, they pay good money for an internship if you are aiming for that Jul 27 16:09:17 true :) Jul 27 16:09:28 vvu : GSoC pays better Jul 27 16:09:32 ;) Jul 27 16:09:45 karki: 6k/month in the US Jul 27 16:10:20 333K/mo here including perks Jul 27 16:10:26 *333 Jul 27 16:10:30 $ Jul 27 16:10:35 heh Jul 27 16:10:58 vvu : but cost of living is high in the US Jul 27 16:11:23 not if you convince them to pay for you Jul 27 16:11:31 I know M$ pays for interns everything Jul 27 16:11:45 hmm Jul 27 16:11:49 MS Jul 27 16:11:51 i have a couple of friends interning at MS this summer, they say it's quite nice Jul 27 16:11:53 ? Jul 27 16:11:56 microsoft Jul 27 16:12:00 yeah Jul 27 16:12:18 I have about 5 ppl from my class there too Jul 27 16:12:26 but MS is boring Jul 27 16:12:36 MSR has the good stuff Jul 27 16:12:48 1st it's windows so from the start is booring Jul 27 16:13:04 +1 Jul 27 16:13:15 nVidia is also nice Jul 27 16:13:21 they do a lot of kernel dev for their GPUs Jul 27 16:13:26 +2 actually Jul 27 16:13:29 ;) Jul 27 16:13:29 where did/are you interning ? Jul 27 16:13:38 i'm at TI in Germany Jul 27 16:13:50 :) from the family Jul 27 16:13:56 I reckon Linus loving nvidia :p Jul 27 16:14:05 how's TI there? Jul 27 16:14:23 super nice if you know german, all peeps know english but still difficult Jul 27 16:14:30 as in what work do you do? Jul 27 16:14:33 i'm working on MSP430 MCUs Jul 27 16:14:45 downgrade huh? Jul 27 16:14:55 from the AM335 Jul 27 16:14:56 that is their main unit here Jul 27 16:14:57 :p Jul 27 16:15:11 mainly now i'm working a new chip but cannot tell more than that, open-source stuff for new chip Jul 27 16:15:30 It's less fun to work on systems with no kernels ;) Jul 27 16:15:44 av500: Ping Jul 27 16:16:50 karki: heh it's nice to see how they work in detail Jul 27 16:16:57 the low level stuff there Jul 27 16:17:31 vvu : have you worked on parallel processing? Jul 27 16:17:43 nop Jul 27 16:17:51 never touched, wanna take a course on OpenMP at university Jul 27 16:18:13 I want to go below openMP Jul 27 16:18:30 like down to kernels on multiprocessor systems :) Jul 27 16:18:43 that is a long way Jul 27 16:18:46 thinking of buying a radxa Jul 27 16:19:24 vvu : PRU is a multiprocessor system, now that I think of it ;) Jul 27 16:19:45 though not the traditional kind! Jul 27 16:21:46 karki: what internships did you do until now ? Jul 27 16:21:49 u are masters right ? Jul 27 16:21:56 nope Jul 27 16:22:03 only 3 years of engineering Jul 27 16:22:12 have to finish bachelors Jul 27 16:22:37 though I gave up an internship at ARM and Cisco for GSoC Jul 27 16:23:20 i turned down arm as well for TI Jul 27 16:59:49 karki: Intern at ARM? Jul 27 16:59:56 yes Jul 27 17:00:26 what was the intern profile they had offered you ( you got me interested :) ) Jul 27 17:06:01 they just said developer Jul 27 17:06:15 actual work would be given if Jul 27 17:06:19 i had joined Jul 27 17:06:26 *would be told to me Jul 27 17:06:49 karki: you could call it asymmetric MP in contrast to SMP on our PCs and mobile devices Jul 27 17:06:58 arm has nice stuff but as I heard you do internship with em and then they ditch you Jul 27 17:07:09 vvu : +1 Jul 27 17:07:12 yes Jul 27 17:07:14 that is true Jul 27 17:07:31 but anyway they have nice positions\ Jul 27 17:07:44 Abhishek_ : I meant between the PRUs that is SMP Jul 27 17:08:05 but I like the fact that you highlighted ASMP Jul 27 17:08:37 Intel, TI > ARM > Broad/qualcomm > etc Jul 27 17:08:43 for students in india Jul 27 17:09:44 Intel they have the nice Intel shuttle in Portland :) Jul 27 17:09:47 search for that Jul 27 17:11:32 Intel in b'lore has an amazing volley ball court Jul 27 17:11:47 and volleyball > rest of the world ;) Jul 27 17:11:58 *rest of the world - IoT Jul 27 17:35:58 well, it's intern season arriving for us by August and I need to flex myself Jul 27 17:44:00 vvu: Well mranostay could tell us more about that :) Jul 27 17:44:53 ah forgot he is Intel peeps :) Jul 27 17:45:44 who is here expert in GUIs for QT ? Jul 27 17:45:56 ++karma as reward Jul 27 17:46:44 * Abhishek_ is still getting his hands dirty on Bootstrap Jul 27 17:47:02 ah the thingie from twitter Jul 27 17:47:19 yeah Jul 27 17:47:46 trying to recreate the mockup I presented as a part of my proposal Jul 27 17:48:55 wait, how would you intern during college? Jul 27 17:49:22 3 months internship Jul 27 17:49:32 i just finished my 2nd year of university :) Jul 27 17:49:51 no, I mean, the selection and shortlisting process for my internship next summer Jul 27 17:50:19 Thats early ;) Jul 27 17:50:34 the process here begins as early as the last week of August Jul 27 17:50:35 for US at least the date to apply is sept-nov Jul 27 17:51:05 yeah, MS came in around sept-oct for us Jul 27 17:51:15 yep Jul 27 17:51:25 this year they did a lot of interning for Skype Jul 27 17:51:47 hmm, skype sucks here Jul 27 17:52:07 they have office there ? Jul 27 17:52:12 I mean, the quality of communication through Skype is totally horrible Jul 27 17:52:22 over the university Internet Jul 27 17:52:28 as i know they have skype offices in Czech republic, london and some other country but small Jul 27 17:52:42 Luxembourg IIRC Jul 27 17:53:03 mhmh do not know for sure Jul 27 17:53:10 so guys what companies are you targeting ? Jul 27 17:53:46 I really don't know if I'm jumping into a company for my intern or going to some univ abroad Jul 27 18:02:54 i wanna get a spot in some startup Jul 27 18:02:58 or something smaller Jul 27 18:07:49 I'm probably looking to go abroad for higher studies or a job perhaps Jul 27 18:08:12 there are less jobs out there for us embedded folk :( Jul 27 18:08:42 If you are a full stack developer, Bham you are hired!! Jul 27 18:08:42 true that, maybe search for android stuff embedded Jul 27 18:08:59 now all cloud stuff is on the wave as i have seen Jul 27 18:09:09 um hm Jul 27 18:09:15 all the guys that I know and do UI/UX/Web stuff are hired big time Jul 27 18:09:24 +1 :'( Jul 27 18:09:35 and if i go to an interview and I tell em that i work in CLI linux only with my chrome open they are not even interested :) Jul 27 18:10:06 I thought of learning distributed systems. systems + cloud :) Jul 27 18:10:22 = rain :P Jul 27 18:10:39 raining cash $$ Jul 27 18:11:03 * karki isn't really attracted by cash though....... Jul 27 18:11:06 * Abhishek_ won't carry an umbrella then ;) Jul 27 18:11:12 ;) Jul 27 18:11:40 Abhishek_ : do carry an umbrella, use it in a different orientation :') Jul 27 18:11:57 I would prefer a bag then ;) Jul 27 18:12:20 as myself i need to pay my unversity after I finish the 3rd year so cash is for me the 1st choice Jul 27 18:12:31 damn university costs like crazy and kills me :) Jul 27 18:13:20 from what I've heard, are univs in Germany expensive? Jul 27 18:13:46 I've heard otherwise Jul 27 18:14:11 I'm running on complete scholarship :) Jul 27 18:18:37 i'm at a private university Jul 27 18:18:47 they give scholarships but really rare Jul 27 18:18:59 otherwise you make a big-a$$ loan and that is the deal Jul 27 18:19:06 pay it after you finish and get a job Jul 27 18:19:16 but most of the peeps just leave germany and do not pay back Jul 27 18:20:09 "leave Germany and do not pay back" - do they not chase them and get their loans recovered? Jul 27 18:22:34 don't think so, that is why the Uni is running out of $$ now Jul 27 18:22:49 they cut a lot of Teaching Assistant jobs and research progams Jul 27 18:23:08 even some professors got fired Jul 27 18:23:33 that is what happened with my Java professor, he mailed me that he is "forced" to leave university Jul 27 18:25:51 vvu : then why join a startup if you are looking for some cash at the moment? Jul 27 18:26:02 why not 2-3 years down the line? Jul 27 18:26:57 i was thinking about applying at Pebble, really like their work Jul 27 18:27:27 anyway with the salaries I know peeps at main software firms in US get I can pay my university in 8 months or so Jul 27 18:28:24 vvu : which degree will you be completing? Jul 27 18:28:54 BSc Jul 27 18:29:00 not sure if I will go for MSc Jul 27 18:29:55 oh, I thought you were doing your engineering Jul 27 18:30:13 how long is the BSc course? Jul 27 18:30:38 3 years Jul 27 18:30:48 we are doing the 4 years of BSc in 3 years Jul 27 18:30:52 at the end 180 ECTS credits Jul 27 18:31:35 hmm, here there was a great hustle over 3-year BSc programmes being "upgraded" to 4 years. and then it had to be rolled back Jul 27 18:35:55 oh well Jul 27 18:51:13 3 year BS in engineering? Jul 27 18:51:18 that seems hurried Jul 27 18:52:11 for engineering, it's still 4 years here. What I was talking about was for BS programmes other than engineering Jul 27 19:12:17 i did mine in 3.5 years Jul 27 19:12:25 so 3 isn't that unreasonable Jul 27 19:12:33 esp. if you can get around all the humanities crap Jul 27 19:19:26 * Abhishek_ has German as humanities subject this semester Jul 27 20:05:57 ds2: i need like 8 humanities courses to graduate :( Jul 27 20:06:29 I need about 4 Jul 27 20:09:35 did you guys have a lot of required ones or just didn't want to deal with it the first year? Jul 27 20:18:10 our curriculum requires us to take these subject in the semesters, starting this sme Jul 27 20:18:12 *sem Jul 27 20:22:06 ds2: required until the end of university, at least for me I can take coruses as i want Jul 27 20:22:18 i just need to have the 180 credits at the end to graduate Jul 27 21:17:23 Sneak peek: http://s23.postimg.org/46fme3v49/Screenshot_from_2014_07_28_02_44_32.png Jul 27 21:32:53 KumarAbhishek: i will provide soon sneak peek for the USB flasher interface Jul 27 21:32:58 as minimalistic as possible :) Jul 27 21:33:11 :) Jul 27 21:33:35 can't get more minimalistic than a command line ;) Jul 27 21:34:51 eh Jul 27 21:34:54 now it is there Jul 27 21:34:57 but a bit more Jul 27 21:35:01 doing it in qt Jul 27 21:35:06 so i can port it to win easily Jul 27 21:35:49 yeah, Qt is probably the best bet to a cross-platform UI (taking Java out of the picture) Jul 27 21:36:07 no java man....i am sick of writing shitload of code :) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Jul 28 03:00:00 2014