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Mar 23 03:16:32 <gsoc_intrigued> howdy, anyone part of beagleboard mentoring team?
Mar 23 03:17:39 <gsoc_intrigued> I am looking for ideas for the summer of code. Anyone, official or not, with ideas would have my immediate attention. Thx
Mar 23 03:56:20 <ds2> look at the elinux page
Mar 23 04:00:41 <vvu> ds2: still around here ?
Mar 23 04:00:48 <vvu> jkridner: ping
Mar 23 04:00:51 <ds2> yes
Mar 23 04:00:57 <ds2> he might be in transit
Mar 23 04:01:35 <vvu> ds2: once a connect my BBB in usb boot mode to a windows computer where there is no driver for it the device behaves right (disconnects itself after a couple of seconds)
Mar 23 04:01:44 <vvu> this means there is no valid boot device so restars the process
Mar 23 04:01:52 <ds2> ok
Mar 23 04:01:55 <vvu> but once i put the default winusb driver to the device this behaviour stops...
Mar 23 04:02:13 <vvu> do you think this can be hardware issue or the winusb driver does not like the BBB ROM ?
Mar 23 04:02:21 <vvu> the guys from libusb gave me no help :(
Mar 23 04:02:21 <ds2> the winusb
Mar 23 04:02:39 <vvu> ever got your hands dirty with that area ?
Mar 23 04:02:39 <ds2> i suspect the windows side is 'enabling' the device so the rom assumes something good is happening
Mar 23 04:03:13 <ds2> sort of but not for this specific stuff
Mar 23 04:03:19 <vvu> yes but the device stays like that for ever
Mar 23 04:03:36 <vvu> the lack of a proper usb analyzer kills me
Mar 23 04:03:36 <ds2> in the first case, there is a enumerate but not an enablement of the device
Mar 23 04:03:49 <ds2> in the second case, it probally got enabled and then things went downhill
Mar 23 04:04:00 <ds2> ever got the xM to work as an analyzer?
Mar 23 04:04:14 <vvu> the dude who has the xM is off-campus :(
Mar 23 04:04:16 <vvu> so no luck there
Mar 23 04:04:22 <ds2> oh DOH
Mar 23 04:04:34 <ds2> we should work on getting you an xM or an analyzer
Mar 23 04:04:54 <vvu> or maybe i need to get in touch with somebody from the sitara team
Mar 23 04:05:09 <vvu> maybe they did some tests...i don't think they did not test usb booting on windows
Mar 23 04:05:09 <ds2> for windows, there is something called usbsnoopy
Mar 23 04:05:11 <ds2> tried that?
Mar 23 04:05:16 <vvu> no, let me search
Mar 23 04:05:46 <ds2> I will not comment on that as my views may not be appropriate to express in a public forum ;)
Mar 23 04:06:03 <vvu> hehe tru
Mar 23 04:06:48 <vvu> found this usbsnoopy stuff
Mar 23 04:06:57 <ds2> it should let you sniff
Mar 23 04:07:58 <vvu> but it's kinda old...i am running win8 :)
Mar 23 04:13:18 <vvu> i will try to find some software analyzers
Mar 23 04:13:25 <vvu> maybe i can understand at least what is happening over there
Mar 23 04:14:16 <vvu> ds2: thx for the help, going to zzz
Mar 23 04:14:46 <ds2> might be something newer around
Mar 23 04:14:52 <ds2> later
Mar 23 06:01:15 <shubhangi> jkridner: Please review my proposal on menlange :)
Mar 23 07:00:40 <geekswine> hii..
Mar 23 07:00:57 <geekswine> is there any particular format for writing proposal ??
Mar 23 07:04:57 <av500> yes
Mar 23 07:05:09 <av500> on melange there should be a template
Mar 23 07:09:35 <geekswine> ok..
Mar 23 08:13:02 <Paul__> Hi
Mar 23 08:13:46 <Paul__> I am interestedin becoming part of the beagleboard team as part of GSoC
Mar 23 08:16:13 <av500> as a student?
Mar 23 08:16:22 <av500> please sign up on the mailing list
Mar 23 08:16:28 <av500> introduce yourself
Mar 23 08:16:34 <av500> look at the project proposals
Mar 23 08:20:37 <Paul__> I am paul Philip
Mar 23 08:20:58 <Paul__> Currently doing Masters in Engineering in Optoelectronics
Mar 23 08:39:01 <av500> as said, go on the mailing list
Mar 23 08:39:09 <Paul__> OK thanks
Mar 23 09:04:20 <FREEZX> jkridner: ping
Mar 23 09:40:33 <paul_gsoc> How to get email ids of mentors to contact potential mentors? I am a student
Mar 23 09:41:15 <paul_gsoc> I want contact details of Steve Arnold
Mar 23 09:42:43 <av500> he is nerdboy
Mar 23 09:42:45 <av500> here
Mar 23 09:42:51 <av500> currently not online
Mar 23 09:43:05 <av500> paul_gsoc: but he should be active on the mailing list, no?
Mar 23 09:44:19 <paul_gsoc> In the mailing list https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!searchin/beagleboard-gsoc/Steve$20Arnold/beagleboard-gsoc/VqHVjMyHrCA/CtLc5k1xoeoJ Anuj Despande has asked to contact in IRC
Mar 23 09:44:34 <paul_gsoc> Thats why I am asking
Mar 23 09:45:06 <av500> he is here fairly often
Mar 23 09:45:10 <av500> guess hes asleep now
Mar 23 09:45:15 <av500> so try when the US wakes up
Mar 23 09:45:27 <av500> in general, staying online here on irc is a good thing to do for GSOC
Mar 23 09:46:51 <paul_gsoc> Ok Thanks for the tip.
Mar 23 10:56:48 <shubhangi> alexanderhiam: ping. Please review my proposal on melange
Mar 23 11:15:11 <kiran4399> jkridner: Can you answer to my yesterday's question ? :-)
Mar 23 11:32:04 <dibya_>  Any one interested to be a co-mentor for the project "heart beat measure with arduino and sending it to drupal website". it is a google summer code 15 proposal for drupal organisation.they need a co-mentor as they are not much excellent in arduino coding part. Any one interested should mail to dibya.dev94@gmail.com or jingsheng.wang@insready.com
Mar 23 11:34:53 <av500> you might want to ask in a more arduino specific place
Mar 23 11:50:34 <vvu> the xM has no serial port as the bbb ?
Mar 23 12:16:16 <av500> vvu: it has
Mar 23 12:21:28 <ketul> vvu; I think it is that RS232?
Mar 23 12:28:23 <Abhishek_> shubhangi: My mentorship request is pending with BeagleBoard.org. Please share it as a Google Doc so that I can review it.
Mar 23 12:28:51 <Abhishek_> or you could also wait until my request is approved
Mar 23 12:30:03 <av500> sec
Mar 23 12:30:37 <av500> Abhishek_: there you go
Mar 23 12:30:40 <av500> comment away
Mar 23 12:30:59 <av500> was at lunch
Mar 23 12:33:15 * Abhishek_ opens the dashboard
Mar 23 12:41:20 <apaar> Abhishek_: Would love to hear your feedback on my proposal(PRU-Bridge) too :)
Mar 23 12:46:19 <vvu> av500: i think i got an xM to use as a USB sniffer
Mar 23 12:53:59 <FREEZX> karki: can you review my proposal?
Mar 23 13:13:42 <webglider> vvu: hello
Mar 23 13:13:52 <webglider> vvu: whats the progress with the sniffer?
Mar 23 13:15:32 <vvu> doing diff tests, but i need a hardware sniffer in the end i think so
Mar 23 13:16:59 <geekswine> jason told me to contact Robert  for the project "Library of Arduino-compatible functions for StarterWare"
Mar 23 13:17:02 <geekswine> so is he Robert Nelson (rcn-ee) ??
Mar 23 13:17:45 <alexanderhiam> geekswine: yes
Mar 23 13:18:36 <geekswine> he is offline now :(
Mar 23 13:19:23 <alexanderhiam> he's usually in here, it's early in the US
Mar 23 13:20:26 <geekswine> ohh okk ...thanx
Mar 23 13:20:29 <geekswine> :)
Mar 23 13:25:32 <webglider> jkridner: Could you please review my proposal on melange
Mar 23 13:31:26 <kiran4399> alexanderhiam: using the python bindings which I told I would create for pruspeak, can a user have a similar coding style like how he has for PyBBIO. like having setup() and loop() functions in the python program ?
Mar 23 13:38:02 <alexanderhiam> kiran4399: you mean an API to use pruspeak, not the rpc server?
Mar 23 13:39:23 <shubhangi> alexanderhiam: Can you please review my proposal on melange
Mar 23 13:39:49 <alexanderhiam> shubhangi: I'm getting to it, there's a bunch of proposals to go through
Mar 23 13:39:59 <shubhangi> Abhishek_: okay. thanks
Mar 23 13:40:08 <shubhangi> alexanderhiam: okay, thanks
Mar 23 13:40:30 <Abhishek_> shubhangi: nm, I am able to see your proposal.
Mar 23 13:41:02 <shubhangi> Abhishek_: mailing you google doc
Mar 23 13:41:17 <Abhishek_> it's okay, I am able to see it on Melange now
Mar 23 13:41:46 <shubhangi> Okay, thanks, adding buffer period
Mar 23 14:07:08 <webglider> I need some general guidance on my proposal
Mar 23 14:09:05 <webglider> any mentors free?
Mar 23 14:10:30 <ebadawy> webglider: NOT a mentor, but u can find the template on the gsoc beagleboard's page
Mar 23 14:10:58 <webglider> ebadawy: I've already written my proposal
Mar 23 14:11:31 <webglider> not able to reach some of my possible mentors, they seem to be busy
Mar 23 14:11:52 <webglider> so wanted to take some general guidance from other mentors
Mar 23 14:11:59 <ebadawy> same here ! :D
Mar 23 14:13:30 <webglider> This is the first time I'm making a plan for an open source project, so really need some guidance
Mar 23 14:13:44 <webglider> Only 3 more days left for the deadline :(
Mar 23 14:14:23 * vvu got the xM with the usb sniffer...
Mar 23 14:14:36 <webglider> vvu: awesome !!
Mar 23 14:16:18 <av500> vvu: wasnt that a gsoc too?
Mar 23 14:16:44 <vvu> av500: yes
Mar 23 14:16:54 <av500> ah
Mar 23 14:16:55 <vvu> trying to see what happens with windows because it does not the AM335x ROM
Mar 23 14:17:03 <av500> ah right
Mar 23 14:17:07 <vvu> but now the angstrom feeds are outdated
Mar 23 14:17:11 <vvu> i cannot even opkg update :)
Mar 23 14:18:01 <av500> use debian .)
Mar 23 14:18:35 <vvu> i do not know if this project will work on debian
Mar 23 14:18:53 <av500> why not?
Mar 23 14:18:59 <av500> you have sourcs?
Mar 23 14:19:38 <geekswine> ebadawy: is there a fixed pattern for writing a proposal ??
Mar 23 14:19:50 <webglider> geekswine: yes
Mar 23 14:19:56 <vvu> looking now :)
Mar 23 14:20:21 <geekswine> webglider: can i have the link plss ??
Mar 23 14:20:41 <webglider> webglider: try to create a new proposal on melange
Mar 23 14:20:50 <webglider> sorry geekswine *
Mar 23 14:21:05 <webglider> the template will appear there in the textbox
Mar 23 14:21:41 <vvu> av500: instsalling debian now, found https://github.com/RobertCNelson/netinstall :)
Mar 23 14:21:55 <vvu> better to speak with ds2, he was the mentor for the project
Mar 23 14:23:44 <geekswine> webglider: ohhh..so is it specific for beagleboard org ?? i didn't login there :( thought of logging for submitting proposal..:P
Mar 23 14:41:44 <webglider> geekswine: yes it is specific, you should log on
Mar 23 15:00:25 <altairpearl> alexanderhiam: Thank you for taking your time to review my proposal :). I have made some corrections now as per your advice. Please review them whenever you are free.
Mar 23 15:00:25 <altairpearl> have added some more details
Mar 23 15:25:20 <kiran4399> alexanderhiam: Yes I mean the python API to use pruspeak.
Mar 23 15:26:44 <kiran4399> jkridner: There ?
Mar 23 15:26:56 <alexanderhiam> kiran4399: the API could be part of PyBBIO so the user could use that construct if they want to
Mar 23 15:27:55 <kiran4399> alexanderhiam: So basically the user can import that module to his python program..
Mar 23 15:28:14 <kiran4399> that module in the sense.... pruspeak API
Mar 23 15:30:14 <alexanderhiam> I don't think it would make sense to implement the setup() loop() construct in your API. It could be included in PyBBIO as a library, or it could be a standalone library and still used alongside PyBBIO
Mar 23 15:32:20 <kiran4399> alexanderhiam: Yes.. I got it.. One more thing.. The API will work via the RPC server ... right ??
Mar 23 15:33:35 <alexanderhiam> kiran4399: you mean as opposed to interacing directly with the sysfs entries?
Mar 23 15:34:03 <kiran4399> alexanderhiam: exactly..
Mar 23 15:34:33 <alexanderhiam> I would think so. It should be done the same way as the node.js API
Mar 23 15:36:01 <kiran4399> alexanderhiam: Oh.. great.. one more thing.. are the shared variables accessible to the firmware and the userspace ?
Mar 23 15:43:42 <kiran4399> just wanted to confirm this fact..
Mar 23 15:44:00 <alexanderhiam> kiran4399: yes, 'SET/GET variable_name' accesses the same variable from both sides
Mar 23 15:51:51 <kiran4399> alexanderhiam: How can I print the analog value got from the command GET AIN[1] ? How can I get access to the stdout for printing out a float value ?
Mar 23 15:52:19 <alexanderhiam> where?
Mar 23 15:57:07 <kiran4399> alexanderhiam: Or do you want me implement a shared variable ...and when I get the float value to the userspace.. I can do whatever I want .. right ??
Mar 23 15:59:30 <alexanderhiam> kiran4399: 'GET AIN[x]' should pass the value (as an unsigned integer) to userspace the same way 'GET DIO[x]' does
Mar 23 15:59:50 <kiran4399> alexanderhiam: gotcha..
Mar 23 16:07:39 <kiran4399> alexanderhiam: Can you please verify my proposal ??
Mar 23 17:09:15 <FREEZX> karki: ping
Mar 23 17:36:36 <HaithamKhed> @ds2 what should i include in the "common bootloader" project proposal?
Mar 23 17:49:43 <kiran4399> jkridner: ping
Mar 23 18:03:10 <shubhangi> karki : please review my proposal when you get time
Mar 23 18:04:39 <HaithamKhed> ds2: what should i include in the "common bootloader" prject proposal
Mar 23 18:43:17 * karki celebrates his birthday :D
Mar 23 18:43:36 <ketul> happy birthday :)
Mar 23 18:43:40 <karki> .......by trying out new Node.js frameworks :p
Mar 23 18:43:40 <FREEZX> hbd :)
Mar 23 18:43:45 <FREEZX> woop woop
Mar 23 18:43:46 <FREEZX> try mine
Mar 23 18:44:02 <FREEZX> http://nukejs.com/#/
Mar 23 18:44:05 <karki> is it a ES6 web framework?
Mar 23 18:44:15 <FREEZX> nope, just ES5
Mar 23 18:44:41 <karki> :)
Mar 23 18:44:51 <karki> I will have a look at it anyway
Mar 23 18:45:21 <FREEZX> could you also have a look at my project proposal when you can, please? :)
Mar 23 18:45:49 <shubhangi>  karki : happy birthday :)
Mar 23 18:46:01 <karki> :)
Mar 23 18:46:33 * karki promises that he will look at everyones proposals (atleast the students he knows)
Mar 23 18:46:43 <kiran4399> karki: happy birthday !!!
Mar 23 18:46:43 <shubhangi> :)
Mar 23 19:01:54 * Abhishek_ gives a slice of cake to karki :)
Mar 23 19:08:56 * karki eats Abhishek_'s slice too :3
Mar 23 19:09:44 <Abhishek_> and smears it on his face :)
Mar 23 19:36:12 <HaithamKhed> does beagle boards use the common u boot bootloader?
Mar 23 19:54:45 <jkridner> yes.
Mar 23 19:55:08 <jkridner> the default config has a couple of patches, but the rest of the code is mainline.
Mar 23 19:55:23 <jkridner> kiran4399: pong
Mar 23 20:03:08 <viv> I have added a project idea on https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/beagleboard-gsoc .... but I do not see it after I posted ... will it be seen only if the mentor approves
Mar 23 20:04:00 <vvu> ds2: ping
Mar 23 20:05:04 <vivek_> I have added a project idea on https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/beagleboard-gsoc .... but I do not see it after I posted ... will it be seen only if the mentor approves
Mar 23 20:06:06 <_av500_> vivek_: I just approved the message
Mar 23 20:06:12 <_av500_> he list is moderated by default
Mar 23 20:06:14 <_av500_> the
Mar 23 20:06:50 <vivek_> okay thanks av500
Mar 23 20:08:39 <vivek_> mentors can you please review the project and give your views https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/beagleboard-gsoc/vivek/beagleboard-gsoc/mPmtHsYDpYo/1gh6RhkPUzwJ
Mar 23 22:16:41 <azizulhakim> vvu: can you give some feedback for mentor's comment section?
Mar 23 23:29:58 <FREEZX> jkridner : ping
Mar 24 00:55:26 <azizulhakim> praveendat92: thanks for your comment. any more suggestion about proposal?
Mar 24 00:58:21 <willwill> julianduque, could you help me with the getting started app proposal?
Mar 24 01:10:26 <paul_gsoc> Any ideawhen Steve Arnold may come online ?
Mar 24 01:18:48 <vvu> azizulhakim: check melange, posted my comment there
Mar 24 01:19:02 <azizulhakim> thanks vvu
Mar 24 01:19:14 <vvu> now going to sleep. catch you tomorrow
Mar 24 01:19:20 <azizulhakim> goodnight
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