**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Mar 28 02:59:58 2015
Mar 28 07:44:52 <altairpearl> hello everyone
Mar 28 11:14:56 <Abhishek__> New Redmi 2
Mar 28 14:17:44 * webglider is amazed by the drastic fall in activity
Mar 28 14:27:07 <Abhishek___> wait for a month more
Mar 28 14:27:54 * webglider is about to enter short term hibernation
Mar 28 14:28:08 <Abhishek_> what about your endsems?
Mar 28 14:35:11 <webglider> Abhishek_: yeah of course, thanks for reminding, got a lot to study :P
Mar 28 14:35:50 * Abhishek_ knows that feeling
Mar 28 14:35:56 * vvu is going to spring holiday from monday
Mar 28 14:51:26 * vvu found his 2013 GSoC proposal :)
Mar 28 14:57:09 * hendersa looks at all of the proposals and sighs.
Mar 28 14:57:17 <hendersa> So. Many. Proposals.
Mar 28 15:00:31 <alexanderhiam> they doubled overnight the before the last day, then doubled again in the last couple hours before the deadline!
Mar 28 15:01:03 <vvu> some of them are just empty
Mar 28 15:01:11 <vvu> but we will filter on the next meeting
Mar 28 15:01:16 <hendersa> A lot of those last minute ones weren't that great, though. Mostly from people that never talked to use for clarification or guidance.
Mar 28 15:01:32 <alexanderhiam> yup
Mar 28 15:01:34 <hendersa> I tagged a bunch with one star and moved on.
Mar 28 15:01:46 <Abhishek_> happens every year
Mar 28 15:02:26 <hendersa> I was talking with Ryan Gordon about when he was a mentor for SDL, and he has had quite similar experiences with his org.
Mar 28 15:03:15 <hendersa> There are people that, no joke, submit the same proposal to all orgs in the hope that one will allocate a slot.
Mar 28 15:03:40 <Abhishek_> yup, saw some proposals like that
Mar 28 15:03:50 <asy> They have a lot of faith.
Mar 28 15:04:20 <alexanderhiam> not the best way to get your android app idea funded
Mar 28 15:04:57 <alexanderhiam> well, I guess if it did work out it would be a pretty good deal
Mar 28 15:05:23 <Abhishek_> Much faith. Such wow
Mar 28 15:05:29 <hendersa> Indeed.
Mar 28 15:05:50 * Abhishek_ looks for a Doge face
Mar 28 15:06:09 <hendersa> But, I do see a few gems in the pile of proposals. Students that genuinely want to give it a try with BB.org.
Mar 28 15:06:18 <Abhishek_> yep
Mar 28 15:06:53 <hendersa> I don't think these students realize what goes into a "good" proposal. The difference between the best ones and the average ones are night and day.
Mar 28 15:07:46 <alexanderhiam> getting it in early makes a huge difference
Mar 28 15:08:04 <hendersa> It sure does. As does pestering us on IRC for feedback.
Mar 28 15:08:15 <Abhishek_> yeah, I've told several of my friends that GSoC has a significant first mover advantage
Mar 28 15:09:50 <asy> It's a bad idea to give the proposal on the last minute. I would not take that risk.
Mar 28 15:11:29 <hendersa> My approach is to allow students to edit their proposal after the submission deadline only if they have had contact with the mentors prior to the submission deadline.
Mar 28 15:12:06 <hendersa> Otherwise, if you're missing something important (like your ENTIRE SCHEDULE), then you are out of luck.
Mar 28 15:12:51 <hendersa> And the edits have to be applicable to stated concerns of the mentors to add clarification, not a major rework.
Mar 28 15:13:20 <hendersa> After the deadline, you only get to rearrange the deck chairs on the Titanic.
Mar 28 15:13:24 <Abhishek_> One of my juniors has applied for GSoC with another organization that comments on proposals only after deadline closes
Mar 28 15:14:06 <Abhishek_> I found it weird considering the practice here
Mar 28 15:14:44 <hendersa> I think we are getting far fewer proposals than other orgs get, considering our smaller userbase.
Mar 28 15:15:20 <hendersa> So we can give our potential students more attention on the front-end.
Mar 28 15:16:13 <hendersa> I prefer the BB.org approach, honestly. The students have a better idea of what will fly and what won't.
Mar 28 15:16:43 <Abhishek_> yes, we do get a fewer proposals, and I think that is good
Mar 28 15:16:57 <Abhishek_> Other organizations must be getting swamped
Mar 28 15:20:36 <hendersa> Are we doing the first round of rejects in the upcoming IRC meeting on Wednesday?
Mar 28 15:21:58 <vvu> yep, think so
Mar 28 15:27:03 <hendersa> OK. Back to work. We'll see how things go on Wednesday.
Mar 28 15:27:07 <hendersa> Later, all.
Mar 28 15:27:18 <vvu> cya
Mar 28 15:52:15 <Abhishek_> hi jkridner
Mar 28 15:54:53 <webglider> just curious, rejects will be done publicly here ?
Mar 28 15:55:34 <alexanderhiam> webglider: no, we'll have a meeting in #beagle-mentors after the regular meeting on wed
Mar 28 15:56:35 <webglider> oic, so that means we won't get to know anything until the 27th next month :P
Mar 28 15:56:55 <_av500_> webglider: correct
Mar 28 15:57:15 <_av500_> you will get a mail from gsoc
Mar 28 15:57:22 <webglider> I guess that's gonna be a painful wait....
Mar 28 15:57:26 <_av500_> webglider: mentors might still comment on proposals
Mar 28 15:57:32 <_av500_> and students can still replay
Mar 28 15:57:37 <_av500_> reply
Mar 28 15:57:44 <_av500_> so dont go on vacation yet
Mar 28 15:58:44 <webglider> ^won't do that for sure!
Mar 28 16:03:21 <webglider> curious again, how did this culture of meeting on wensdays start?
Mar 28 16:03:56 <Abhishek_> maybe should ask jkridner for that ;)
Mar 28 16:04:49 <alexanderhiam> just how it's worked out with peoples schedules and time zones in the past
Mar 28 16:05:11 <webglider> ic
Mar 28 18:46:49 <mr_science> _av500_: calchan is going to request mentor as well
Mar 28 18:47:19 <mr_science> can somebody tell jason he's "okay"?
Mar 28 18:47:34 * mr_science still arm-twisting devs
Mar 28 19:06:40 <rob_w> so av500 ur yet again admin here ,,, nice nice
Mar 28 19:06:59 <rob_w> slowly taking over the controls ;-)
Mar 28 19:17:39 <mr_science> :/
Mar 28 19:18:01 <mr_science> he's complaining about time...  what a whiner...
**** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Mar 29 02:59:58 2015