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Mar 31 09:03:45 <Abhishek_> gm
Mar 31 09:18:07 <kiran4399> good morning everybody !!!
Mar 31 12:54:50 <FalconKnight> I would like to get an edit permission to my proposal, who should I ask for it?
Mar 31 12:56:01 <Abhishek_> Add a comment on your proposal updating the changes you want to make
Mar 31 14:27:15 <altairpearl> hello everyone :)
Mar 31 17:04:44 <prakharsingh95> @jkridner @julianduque @alexanderhiam I got late in submitting my task (I submitted the proposal on time). Is it possible my proposal will still be considered. I have already written to the mailing list.
Mar 31 18:12:12 <alexanderhiam> prakharsingh95: thanks for the update, I see you linked to it in a comment on melange as well. That should be ok
Mar 31 18:13:02 <nerdboy> arianepaola: don't you have something to do?
Mar 31 18:19:48 <nerdboy> do we use the stars to add points now?
Mar 31 18:22:32 <arianepaola> nerdboy: yes, will get into it now. just returned home from university.
Mar 31 18:23:41 <nerdboy> altairpearl: looks like you have pending update too?  please add comment when finished
Mar 31 18:24:22 <hendersa> FalconKnight: Are you available?
Mar 31 18:24:26 <nerdboy> anybody else who needs to get off their butts?
Mar 31 18:25:29 <nerdboy> neem0 maybe?
Mar 31 18:26:08 <nerdboy> so if you anything else you need to do, better do it *now*
Mar 31 18:26:18 <nerdboy> yesterday is even better...
Mar 31 18:27:40 * hendersa likes being on his butt.
Mar 31 18:27:51 <hendersa> Makes it easier to use the computer.
Mar 31 18:28:04 <hendersa> Though seriously, I've been spending hours looking through these proposals.
Mar 31 18:28:32 * alexanderhiam has some serious catching up to do on proposal reviewing
Mar 31 18:28:43 <hendersa> If you have an opinion on the quality of a proposal, feel free to mark it with your star rating.
Mar 31 18:28:49 <hendersa> You can change it at any time.
Mar 31 18:29:16 <anujdeshpande> hendersa: can you join #beagle-mentors ? if not perhaps av500 could help
Mar 31 18:29:27 <hendersa> I think I need an invite to that channel.
Mar 31 18:29:40 <hendersa> Then again, maybe not.
Mar 31 18:29:59 <anujdeshpande> _av500_: ping
Mar 31 18:32:25 <hendersa> alexanderhiam: I had a graduate student stop by to talk to me about the BeagleBone, and he mentioned that he wrote you a few mail asking for help last year.
Mar 31 18:32:42 <hendersa> alexanderhiam: Those students actually do remember when you take the time to help them out.
Mar 31 18:33:19 <alexanderhiam> did I get back to them?
Mar 31 18:33:31 <hendersa> He said that you did.
Mar 31 18:34:47 <alexanderhiam> oh good! I do my best to get back to all those emails, but some slip through the cracks
Mar 31 18:34:59 <hendersa> Tell me about it.
Mar 31 18:35:10 * hendersa glares at 87 unanswered Android mails.
Mar 31 18:35:24 <alexanderhiam> ugh
Mar 31 18:37:04 <hendersa> Anyway, thanks for taking the time to help those kids out. I have a soft spot for the students trying to use the BBW/BBB for class projects and such.
Mar 31 18:37:15 <hendersa> I prioritize them when answering questions.
Mar 31 18:40:39 <alexanderhiam> I've been trying to think of a non-email way to provide PyBBIO support. I could really use another developer or two!
Mar 31 18:41:30 <alexanderhiam> volunteers of course :P
Mar 31 18:41:36 <hendersa> I just push all discussion out to the appropriate threads on the beagleboard Google Group.
Mar 31 18:41:50 <hendersa> I will sometimes see some people helping others.
Mar 31 18:42:03 <alexanderhiam> yeah, I'm thinking that's the way to go for the time being
Mar 31 18:42:09 <altairpearl> nerdboy : yea i have . will do .
Mar 31 18:43:29 <hendersa> I wrote that manual for BeagleSNES, which helps curtail the support questions on that project a considerable amount. That's one of the reasons why I'm pushing for a heavy documentation effort for my topics on GSoC.
Mar 31 18:43:54 <hendersa> If you don't doc things well... you'll pay for it later.
Mar 31 18:44:45 <alexanderhiam> I've got all mmy docs in Github wiki pages, and it seems a lot of folks don't notice it
Mar 31 18:45:42 <anujdeshpande> alexanderhiam: i was actually going to mention that to you. students at my former uni are using bbb as part of their new syllabi, and are using the other python lib for that particular reason :/
Mar 31 18:46:16 <hendersa> If you can dump that wiki out as a nice PDF and release it as a manual for each version you release, it goes a long way.
Mar 31 18:46:42 <anujdeshpande> agreed. especially in a place like a uni where they handout zips of coursework, etc.
Mar 31 18:46:51 <alexanderhiam> yeah, I should probably make a pdf, as well as move it over to my site
Mar 31 18:48:04 <alexanderhiam> ...with all that spare time I have
Mar 31 18:48:22 <hendersa> You're preaching to the choir on that one.
Mar 31 18:48:56 <anujdeshpande> alexanderhiam: where do you need help with ?
Mar 31 18:49:12 * anujdeshpande quit his day job to browse reddit full time
Mar 31 18:49:15 <hendersa> I use this guy for my docs: http://www.latextemplates.com/template/the-legrand-orange-book
Mar 31 18:49:43 <alexanderhiam> snazzy!
Mar 31 18:50:40 <alexanderhiam> anujdeshpande: you interested in playing with PyBBIO?
Mar 31 18:50:53 <anujdeshpande> alexanderhiam: sure thing :D
Mar 31 18:51:18 <anujdeshpande> you have a feature list or a todo anywhere?
Mar 31 18:51:22 <alexanderhiam> that would be much appreciated
Mar 31 18:51:45 <alexanderhiam> making a todo list is on my todo list...
Mar 31 18:52:04 * hendersa also has a recursive todo list.
Mar 31 18:52:13 <alexanderhiam> well the biggest thing right now is 3.14 support
Mar 31 18:52:38 <alexanderhiam> it relies heavily on capemgr
Mar 31 18:53:11 <hendersa> Yeah, 3.14 is a mixed bag.
Mar 31 18:53:16 <alexanderhiam> I've also been working on moving a lot of the internals to C extensions
Mar 31 18:53:35 <shubhangi> alexanderhiam: i can help too. drop me mail if something i can do comes up
Mar 31 18:54:35 <anujdeshpande> [] c extensions
Mar 31 18:54:35 <anujdeshpande> [] docs
Mar 31 18:54:35 <anujdeshpande> [] 3.14 support
Mar 31 18:54:49 <anujdeshpande> [] creating this todo
Mar 31 18:54:52 <alexanderhiam> I'm thinking I'll either use universal-cape plus all the built-in overlays to enable sub-systems, or maybe have a universal-cape cape fork for 3.14 that does everything
Mar 31 18:55:02 <alexanderhiam> shubhangi: thanks!
Mar 31 18:55:24 <alexanderhiam> I've been meaning to make open some gh issues for this stuff
Mar 31 18:55:59 <hendersa> Have you decided on the rcn 3.14 or the TI BSP 3.14?
Mar 31 18:56:21 <shubhangi> alexanderhiam: post a todo list up somewhere and i'll take up a task
Mar 31 18:57:04 <alexanderhiam> hendersa: is there a choice? I was planning on just supporting whatever ships on future bones
Mar 31 18:57:13 <shubhangi> and do take a look at this when you get time https://github.com/deepakkarki/pruspeak/pull/7
Mar 31 18:57:26 * anujdeshpande can see a lot of issues on gh about capemgr 
Mar 31 18:57:39 <alexanderhiam> shubhangi: right, I saw that, looks good
Mar 31 18:57:57 <alexanderhiam> great to see test results
Mar 31 18:58:14 <shubhangi> i am getting off by 3uS if i go lower than 10uS delay
Mar 31 18:58:43 <alexanderhiam> btw, I think jkridner was referring to unit tests
Mar 31 18:58:52 <hendersa> alexanderhiam: I have no dug into the latest state of rcn's 3.14, but when I last pulled both only the TI BSP 3.14 supported HDMI audio.
Mar 31 18:59:02 <alexanderhiam> hmm, 3us is a bit high...
Mar 31 18:59:40 <shubhangi> reduce count value for small delay values or would that be a bad hack
Mar 31 19:00:04 <alexanderhiam> hendersa: oh right, I remember seeing something about that, and I think rcn-ee might have been planning on shipping with TI BSP
Mar 31 19:00:19 * alexanderhiam might also be making that up....
Mar 31 19:00:54 * shubhangi needs to look up unit tests :?
Mar 31 19:01:14 <alexanderhiam> shubhangi: have you characterized the error? i.e. is it the same percent error regardless of the delay? or is it a constant +3us offset?
Mar 31 19:01:32 <shubhangi> did that
Mar 31 19:01:38 <shubhangi> remains same 3us
Mar 31 19:02:12 <shubhangi> even 50us  high-low gives me a period of 107us
Mar 31 19:02:58 <shubhangi> i thought not giving the actual calculated count value to cmp register would be bad
Mar 31 19:03:09 <alexanderhiam> unit tests being a suite of programs/scripts that test as much of the software's functionality as possible. When you add a new feature or change somethingyou re-run the tests, and if something fails you know which change screwed up what
Mar 31 19:03:58 <shubhangi> someone needs to code them up ?
Mar 31 19:04:11 <alexanderhiam> shubhangi: if it's a constant offset then it might make sense to subract it, as long as you make sure you never end up with negative or overflown unsigned values
Mar 31 19:04:37 <shubhangi> alexanderhiam: okay. Thanks a lot :)
Mar 31 19:05:13 <alexanderhiam> shubhangi: yeah. jkridner ordered parts for a unit test cape we've been working on (https://github.com/graycatlabs/UTCape)
Mar 31 19:05:45 <alexanderhiam> hopefully we can get them to gsoc students this year so we can automate peripheral testing
Mar 31 19:06:05 * anujdeshpande vaguely remembers alexanderhiam and jkridner talking about this in NYC last year
Mar 31 19:06:44 <alexanderhiam> yeah, it only took a year to get a first revision together :P
Mar 31 19:08:02 <anujdeshpande> collaborative opensource ftw :D
Mar 31 19:14:41 <shubhangi> alexanderhiam: i'll correct the offset and meanwhile try to get some pending pybbio issues on gh resolved (y)
Mar 31 19:15:02 <alexanderhiam> awesome
Mar 31 19:15:09 <shubhangi> gn. its late here :)
Mar 31 20:02:53 <Abhishek_> hmm
Mar 31 20:12:10 * nerdboy cheers for Taco Tuesday
Mar 31 20:24:55 <Abhishek_> shubhangi: Could 3us be the delay between kernel space and PRU space?
Mar 31 20:25:07 <Abhishek_> nm
Mar 31 20:49:36 <arianepaola> nerdboy I have updated my proposal. Thank you!
Mar 31 21:02:54 <hendersa> OK, I'm taking off. I'll be on for the meeting tomorrow.
Mar 31 21:02:57 <hendersa> Take it easy, all.
Mar 31 22:27:17 <jkridner> https://www.facebook.com/MCMElectronics/posts/10153038334588941:0
Mar 31 22:36:16 <Abhishek_> jkridner: done :)
Apr 01 01:24:15 * ds2 drops a pin
Apr 01 01:53:02 <nerdboy> ow
Apr 01 01:53:35 * nerdboy always finds that stuff with bare foot...
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