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Apr 01 03:19:16 <nerdboy> arianepaola: do you have an actual g+ profile, or just the default that comes with gmail?
Apr 01 03:21:25 <nerdboy> neem0 and altairpearl ?
Apr 01 03:22:11 <nerdboy> "where is that k29?"  <=  could be right out of Get Smart
Apr 01 03:22:27 <ds2> new and improved k-9?
Apr 01 03:25:22 <arianepaola> nerdboy: should be the default one, the gmail email is in the application
Apr 01 03:48:10 <prakharsingh95> @alexanderhiam thanks!
Apr 01 04:03:34 <neem0> nerdboy: whoops, I was asleep!
Apr 01 04:04:38 <neem0> nerdboy: and of all the nights I worked, i miss this one :P
Apr 01 04:04:58 <neem0> nerdboy: What did I miss?
Apr 01 04:05:36 <neem0> nerdboy: Where you refering to updates to my proposal befoe todays meeting? (02:21 < nerdboy> neem0 maybe?
Apr 01 04:12:17 <neem0> nerdboy: If yes, they're on their way (have been done on Saturday actually, but I needed to do more research)
Apr 01 07:34:30 <altairpearl> nerdboy : sorry for the delay. I have made some changes now. Please review them .
Apr 01 07:40:31 <altairpearl> vmayoral : i have made some changes now . Please review them .
Apr 01 07:45:00 <vmayoral> altairpearl: link?
Apr 01 07:50:35 <altairpearl> just a moment
Apr 01 07:52:50 <altairpearl> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1l2AaStj5mHXEldOATBAaNVhMw_0d52dS0qzkF9ZzzOE/edit?usp=sharing
Apr 01 07:52:57 <altairpearl> vmayoral: ^
Apr 01 07:53:20 <altairpearl> i have updated the proposal in the melange page too
Apr 01 07:53:44 <vmayoral> I'll review it there then, thanks
Apr 01 07:54:57 <altairpearl> okay . thank you
Apr 01 08:05:52 <neem0> alexanderhiam: available?
Apr 01 13:12:21 <neem0> alexanderhiam: nerdboy: I've commented on the proposal, any feedback highly appreciated
Apr 01 13:13:45 <neem0> I'll be online later tonight, so feel free to respond either here or on melange
Apr 01 13:14:06 <neem0> Scoping recommendations would be super nice of you :)
Apr 01 13:30:54 <neemo> vmayoral: if you have time,  can you take a look at the proposal/comments? it would be quite helpful since you have  experience with the PRU and IMU drivers for the project
Apr 01 15:14:28 * webglider wonders if there is a meeting today
Apr 01 15:18:09 <anujdeshpande> webglider: there is. but on #beagle-mentors i think
Apr 01 15:18:27 <anujdeshpande> webglider: av500 sent an email about that yday
Apr 01 15:19:13 <webglider> anujdeshpande: yeah looks like it's for mentors only
Apr 01 15:59:21 <jkridner> gm all...
Apr 01 15:59:23 <jkridner> mentors not in #beagle-mentors, please ping me.
Apr 01 16:01:21 <arianepaola> Hello jkridner, I have made adjustments to my proposal for the getting started app on melange. When you get a chance to have a look, please comment.
Apr 01 16:02:02 <Abhishek_> Morning all
Apr 01 16:02:44 <chandy> how to make adjustment in proposal now
Apr 01 16:03:04 <chandy> the deadline is over
Apr 01 16:03:46 <alexanderhiam> chandy: let us know what you'd like to change in a comment on it
Apr 01 16:03:59 <alexanderhiam> if it seems reasonable we can enable editing
Apr 01 16:04:09 <chandy> ok
Apr 01 16:06:03 <jkridner> chandy: you comments like alexanderhaim said.... and, like alexanderhaim said, if reasonable we can enable editing.
Apr 01 16:06:12 * jkridner thanks alexanderhiam for his response. :-)
Apr 01 16:07:00 <alexanderhiam> ;)
Apr 01 16:07:46 <chandy> :D
Apr 01 16:09:05 <chandy> jkridner:sure
Apr 01 16:11:51 <karki> jkridner
Apr 01 16:12:01 <karki> I'm not in beagle-mentors
Apr 01 16:12:43 * jkridner sent invite
Apr 01 16:17:57 <chandy> jkridner: so should I request for edit proposal ?
Apr 01 16:18:49 <jkridner> chandy: wait for responses on the comments first.
Apr 01 16:19:24 <jkridner> calculus, marshall_law, mdp, nodebotanist, julianduque.... want to join us in #beagle-mentors?
Apr 01 16:19:31 <jkridner> rcn-ee: ^^^
Apr 01 16:20:05 <jkridner> beng-nl: are you from RTEMS project?
Apr 01 16:20:09 <altairpearl> nerdboy : ping
Apr 01 16:20:13 * jkridner thinks the nick is familiar.
Apr 01 16:20:16 <mdp> jkridner: invite
Apr 01 16:20:28 <vmayoral> jkridner: greetings
Apr 01 16:20:44 <vmayoral> jkridner: apologies for being late, can i get access to #beagle-mentors?
Apr 01 16:20:51 <vmayoral> neemo: link)
Apr 01 16:20:53 <vmayoral> neemo: link?
Apr 01 16:23:36 <rcn-ee> jkridner, looks like i don't have access to #beagle-mentors (no invite)
Apr 01 16:24:55 <jkridner> rcn-ee: invite sent
Apr 01 16:25:24 <altairpearl> vmayoral : hey . so did you check my proposal now ?
Apr 01 16:25:30 <iqan> hendersa : I requested my undergrad school, and they're ready to cooperate. So I will be somewhat free in April. Then I can work on the project for about 4-5 hours a day during may.
Apr 01 16:26:14 <vmayoral> altairpearl: did it
Apr 01 16:26:32 <vmayoral> it seems to me like you are putting a lot of effort into PRU tasks which is not well justified
Apr 01 16:26:33 <iqan> hendersa : and about the schedule. I am working on it.
Apr 01 16:26:46 <vmayoral> furthermore, porting EKF to the PRUs won't be easy
Apr 01 16:27:06 <vmayoral> i don't get why you want to port it to PRUs if it's existing and functioning properly in userspace
Apr 01 16:27:31 <vmayoral> i'd better use the PRUs for specific tasks such as fast PWM, PPM generation
Apr 01 16:27:39 <vmayoral> besides that, the proposal looks good on me
Apr 01 16:27:45 <altairpearl> no im not porting it to pru .
Apr 01 16:28:26 <altairpearl> ok ill mention them clearly now
Apr 01 16:28:42 <anujdeshpande> alexanderhiam: I dropped off last night while we were discussing what's next for pybbio. I could start with documentation. that'll get me familiar. You think something like short videos or blogs might help ?
Apr 01 16:28:49 <vmayoral> if not, then what's the point of "Integrate IMU with the PRU via I2C by re-using the navigation codes"
Apr 01 16:30:20 <alexanderhiam> anujdeshpande: absolutely. Once I finish this book, which is mostly PyBBIO examples itself, I'll start doing some tutorials on my site
Apr 01 16:30:41 <jkridner> iqan: in general, the expectation is 30-40 hours a week for the GSoC internship.
Apr 01 16:31:03 <anujdeshpande> alexanderhiam: are you hosting any online examples or something like that for the book ?
Apr 01 16:31:05 <alexanderhiam> anujdeshpande: I finally got around to setting up some items on gh: https://github.com/graycatlabs/PyBBIO/milestones/v0.9.4
Apr 01 16:31:10 <alexanderhiam> no
Apr 01 16:32:41 <nodebotanist> jkridner: moving today, sorry!
Apr 01 16:33:37 <iqan> jkridner : yes I know.. till 20th may only. then I can contribute more than 6 hours a day and if i lag somewhere, i can spend sundays workin too. no issues in that.
Apr 01 16:34:02 <jkridner> nodebotanist: understand. review the logs if you can. reviews in Melange will be especially useful.
Apr 01 16:34:21 <nodebotanist> Thanks
Apr 01 16:34:21 <jkridner> nodebotanist: there is a private github for logs.
Apr 01 16:44:23 <altairpearl> hmm ok i get it. the original idea was to integrate sensors and process data using pru
Apr 01 16:44:27 <altairpearl> ill make the changes now
Apr 01 16:44:55 <neemo> vmayoral: hey,  sorry for the lag.  I'm I bit on and off on mobile.  If you can search melange my name is Niko Visnjic on it,  the proposal should be there. I'll try to dig up a link, but it's at the discretion of Vpn and the Chinese firewall
Apr 01 16:45:12 <neemo> vmayoral: gimme a sec to tunnel through it
Apr 01 16:50:24 <neemo> vmayoral: available?
Apr 01 16:52:20 <neemo> vmayoral: it lives here http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/proposal/public/google/gsoc2015/niko_visnjic/5629499534213120
Apr 01 16:52:45 <neemo> vmayoral: feedback highly appreciated =)
Apr 01 16:56:06 <beng-nl> jkridner: hi! yes i am
Apr 01 16:56:21 <beng-nl> just kinda lurking cos i like beagleboards so much
Apr 01 16:56:26 <jkridner> beng-nl: Ben Gras?
Apr 01 16:56:29 <beng-nl> yep!
Apr 01 16:56:39 <jkridner> ah.... cool... thought I knew the nick.
Apr 01 16:56:45 <jkridner> you mentoring this year?
Apr 01 16:56:59 <beng-nl> yes, for rtems (i have done minix a few years too)
Apr 01 16:57:27 <beng-nl> it seems i will mentor beagle support improvement and/or a bsd-licensed boot loader for beagle.. assuming we get the slots etc of course
Apr 01 16:57:32 <beng-nl> but that's what i'm volunteering for
Apr 01 16:57:56 <jkridner> beng-nl: k. I'd have to add you to the mentor list to see if anyone proposed something like that...
Apr 01 16:58:14 <jkridner> can you ask for a mentor connection on Melange?
Apr 01 16:58:20 <beng-nl> oh, for the beagleboard org? - aha sure
Apr 01 16:58:54 <jkridner> is there a similar project on a different org?
Apr 01 16:59:06 <beng-nl> no not that i know
Apr 01 16:59:50 <beng-nl> i am reverse engineering the melange interface again
Apr 01 17:00:46 <beng-nl> jkridner: i think i did it
Apr 01 17:02:00 <jkridner> beng-nl: added
Apr 01 17:03:44 <beng-nl> lots of proposals, good :)
Apr 01 17:05:58 <Abhishek_> shubhangi: By when do you think you would be able to come up with the usecase sketch?
Apr 01 17:07:05 <webglider> beng-nl: just curious, would you be interested in mentoring something that is targeted towards improving initial experience for novices
Apr 01 17:08:20 <beng-nl> webglider: i can't commit more time to gsoc mentoring, i might be stretching it as it is
Apr 01 17:08:36 <beng-nl> webglider: do you mean in general or for rtems? (pardon my bias)
Apr 01 17:09:34 <webglider> beng-nl: I was referring to beagle org
Apr 01 17:10:20 <nerdboy> altairpearl_: it's open but you need to hurry up if you have an answer
Apr 01 17:13:04 <calculus> jkridner: I can't join, not invited
Apr 01 17:13:43 <neemo> nerdboy: hey,  what was the ping a while ago?  When I was asleep
Apr 01 17:14:49 <jkridner> calculus: odd... I have you listed as +i on the flags.
Apr 01 17:15:04 <calculus> jkridner: I am in now
Apr 01 17:15:38 <nerdboy> neem0_: i think you answered it, no?
Apr 01 17:17:39 <neemo> nerdboy: well if it was to give feedback on the questions in the comments,  I would say I gave a kind of an answer
Apr 01 17:18:04 <neemo> nerdboy: it's a bit on the long side,  but I hope I got it all.
Apr 01 17:18:57 <neemo> nerdboy: feel free to ask more and poke holes in my outline of the project.  Your the expert and I'm the trainee
Apr 01 17:20:06 <nerdboy> neem0_: things are being reviewed now...
Apr 01 17:25:36 <neemo> nerdboy: ok,  cool.  Ping if I should  do anything right now, since my Gmail refreshes every so often
Apr 01 18:03:10 <geekswine> rcn-ee: hiii..jason asked me to talk to u abt the project "Library of Arduino-compatible functions for StarterWare"
Apr 01 18:03:14 <geekswine> that what am i planning to do on this project and discuss with u..
Apr 01 18:04:47 <rcn-ee> geekswine, sure, shot your questions. ;0
Apr 01 18:05:49 <geekswine> i have submitted the proposal and jason had some queries which i commented it..
Apr 01 18:05:50 <geekswine> https://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/proposal/review/student/google/gsoc2015/geekswine/5629499534213120
Apr 01 18:05:53 * nerdboy just full of lovely mtgs today...
Apr 01 18:05:57 <geekswine> can u have a look at it plss ??
Apr 01 18:08:23 <geekswine> rcn-ee: since u were not here during the proposal submission time..so i was not able to contact u :(
Apr 01 18:09:09 <rcn-ee> yeah, last week i was on the road at elc..
Apr 01 18:10:02 <geekswine> rcn-ee: can u review my proposal once ??
Apr 01 18:13:36 <rcn-ee> geekswine, looking over it, the u-boot/uEnv.txt won't be a problem, i can help you intergrate so it'll just boot (with your image) on lots of random flashed eMMC bootloaders. ;)
Apr 01 18:15:35 <rcn-ee> loading -> reloading sketches thru the ide will be fun. ;)
Apr 01 18:16:05 <rcn-ee> (users dont' like to wait for reboots!)
Apr 01 18:18:19 <rcn-ee> *keeps forgetting, it's Starterware, so we can't do fancy nodejs/web/ide stuff. ;)
Apr 01 18:20:00 <geekswine> yeah !!! its fun with arduino :) but not with starterware :(
Apr 01 18:20:52 <rcn-ee> well, that's what this gsoc project is for. ;) Making StarterWare = fun of arduino.. ;)
Apr 01 18:22:04 <geekswine> haha yes..its like 2 in 1 ... arduino + fast processing and memory :D
Apr 01 18:23:52 <geekswine> rcn-ee: and jason's main concern was that how to configure the board to load sketches from Energia without a serial cable :(
Apr 01 18:23:59 <nerdboy> rcn-ee: my rev c doesn't like your latest one-partition sdcard/u-boot thing
Apr 01 18:24:09 <geekswine> as a user has only usb !
Apr 01 18:24:18 <nerdboy> has machinekit on emmc
Apr 01 18:24:48 <nerdboy> should be later(than angstrom) u-boot there right?
Apr 01 18:24:51 <rcn-ee> geekswine, we can load the eMMC/microSD thru u-boot as "usb flash" drive... would that help?
Apr 01 18:25:09 <rcn-ee> nerdboy, with image? cat /etc/dogtag
Apr 01 18:25:54 <rcn-ee> then Energia, could just load/write to the eMMC....
Apr 01 18:26:49 <rcn-ee> (the problem, older u-boot's, how to tell it to do that.. (we'd have to give it a hint via microSD..)))
Apr 01 18:27:08 <nerdboy> has your ubuntu rootfs...
Apr 01 18:27:41 <rcn-ee> nerdboy, on that one, you should see a "bb-*.txt" under /boot/uboot/ rename it as "uEnv.txt"... *can't remember what i called it..
Apr 01 18:27:55 <rcn-ee> that version works way back with the ancient Angstrom releases..
Apr 01 18:28:15 <nerdboy> what version of what?
Apr 01 18:28:28 <nerdboy> i inherted the machinekit install
Apr 01 18:28:29 <rcn-ee> 2013?
Apr 01 18:28:40 <rcn-ee> oh... then just rename that file..
Apr 01 18:28:52 <nerdboy> just made sdcard based on current wiki page
Apr 01 18:29:09 <geekswine> rcn-ee: i am not much confident abt u-boot and all :( very less experience with it !!! but would love to explore it..
Apr 01 18:29:25 * geekswine like to learn new things ^_^
Apr 01 18:30:01 <nerdboy> it boots up the emmc rootfs and mounts card rootfs on /media/rootfs
Apr 01 18:30:36 <rcn-ee> geekswine, so in the current march factory release, with the usb-cable plugged in, you can type "ums 0 mmc 1" and the "eMMC" will show up on your pc as a usb-flash drive...
Apr 01 18:31:25 <geekswine> woah...that's cool !!! :D
Apr 01 18:31:28 <rcn-ee> nerdboy, or wait.. on the single partition, you should see /bbb-uEnv.txt ?
Apr 01 18:32:44 <nerdboy> no bb-* on my card or emmc
Apr 01 18:33:23 <nerdboy> emmc has 2 partitions, /boot/uboot has standard stuff
Apr 01 18:33:40 <rcn-ee> geekswine, the problem... without serial-cable plugged in... how do we 'hint' to u-boot to automaticly do that..  We can write a "uEnv.txt" that end user can use for it.. or we can borrow the work done here too: https://github.com/ungureanuvladvictor/BBBlfs
Apr 01 18:33:46 <nerdboy> well, plus Docs, and other stuff
Apr 01 18:34:20 <nerdboy> card is based on your wiki page with ubuntu 14.04 rootfs
Apr 01 18:34:54 <nerdboy> it appears to be ignoring sdcard u-boot dd'd to card
Apr 01 18:35:02 <rcn-ee> so on that card (ignore the eMMC) you should see a /bbb-uEnv.txt rename that to "/uEnv.txt"
Apr 01 18:35:31 <nerdboy> iirc the previous card layout with MLO in /boot partition worked fine
Apr 01 18:35:53 <geekswine> rcn-ee: i think i need to read more abt these booting stuffs so i can cope up with u :P
Apr 01 18:35:59 <nerdboy> that card has uEnv.txt from wiki page
Apr 01 18:36:09 <geekswine> i m going through the link !!!
Apr 01 18:36:20 <nerdboy> slightly modified during troubleshooting last night
Apr 01 18:37:18 <nerdboy> # ls /media/rootfs/boot/
Apr 01 18:37:18 <nerdboy> dtbs  uboot  uEnv.txt  vmlinuz-3.14.35-ti-r56
Apr 01 18:37:39 <moto-timo> rcn-ee: what class of arm host would you recommend to build BBB debian image?
Apr 01 18:37:48 <nerdboy> u-boot is empty because you never said to put anything there  :p
Apr 01 18:38:13 <rcn-ee> nerdboy, send me a pastebin/etc of the serial boot.. something's werird (along with a cat of uEnv.txt)
Apr 01 18:38:17 * nerdboy uses iMXquads and tegra K1 as build hosts
Apr 01 18:38:47 * moto-timo should have gotten the Wandboard
Apr 01 18:38:51 <nerdboy> if i could find my serial cable i could fix it myself...
Apr 01 18:38:57 <rcn-ee> moto-timo, right now omap5's 2GB/4GB with sata are my main builders...
Apr 01 18:39:18 <rcn-ee> nerdboy,  cat of uEnv.txt ?
Apr 01 18:39:44 <moto-timo> I wonder if my omap-L138 board would suffice...
Apr 01 18:39:54 <rcn-ee> moto-timo, jason's using x15 behind http://builds.beagleboard.org/builders/build-image
Apr 01 18:40:21 <nerdboy> think it's yours plus me setting mmcroot
Apr 01 18:40:21 <rcn-ee> moto-timo, it would die on the thumb2/Cortex-A8-vpf3 instructions in armhf...
Apr 01 18:40:31 <moto-timo> just to be clear, cross-compiling does not work?
Apr 01 18:40:36 <moto-timo> rcn-ee: doh!
Apr 01 18:40:50 <rcn-ee> moto-timo, depends... kernel cross compile is fine... ;)
Apr 01 18:41:08 <nerdboy> https://bpaste.net/show/cf2884e88271
Apr 01 18:41:16 <rcn-ee> but anything that uses lib's etc.. native just works best.. specially if you want users to 'repeat' anything. ;)
Apr 01 18:41:21 <geekswine> rcn-ee: i also read somewhere that on host we can create some symbolic link which we want the target to load..plss correct if i am wrong :/
Apr 01 18:43:12 <rcn-ee> geekswine, since we are dealing with a fat fs... (for windows/mac users of engeria) we lose that. ;)
Apr 01 18:43:45 <geekswine> :(
Apr 01 18:44:04 <nerdboy> rcn-ee: it keeps the UUID of emmc root
Apr 01 18:44:32 <nerdboy> overriding in uEnv.txt on sdcard seems to be ignored
Apr 01 18:45:13 <nerdboy> ie, cmdline looks normal except root-UUID=wrong_one
Apr 01 18:46:26 <rcn-ee> nerdboy, i'm looking at it.. then looking at the one i ship on the march 2015 image: https://paste.debian.net/164349  i'm just getting double vision, as they are similar..
Apr 01 18:47:00 <nerdboy> heh, he only sees double...
Apr 01 18:48:09 <rcn-ee> So that's tested against Angsrom 2013.02.20 & Debian 2014-05-14... they must have done something custom to the eMMC's..
Apr 01 18:48:12 <rcn-ee> wipe it out! ;)
Apr 01 18:50:01 <geekswine> rcn-ee: i think that making arduino like files won't be a much of problem, so I need to work more on that how to load from energia via a usb cable !!!
Apr 01 18:51:19 <nerdboy> rcn-ee: i have not had single-partition beagle scdard work yet
Apr 01 18:51:39 <nerdboy> lemme try rev A board
Apr 01 18:58:57 <nerdboy> rev A boots angstrom fine, but that card stops the boot
Apr 01 18:59:16 <nerdboy> stuck at 3 leds...
Apr 01 19:08:28 <nerdboy> also sfdisk args have changed
Apr 01 19:08:51 <nerdboy> instructions broke on 2.26 i think
Apr 01 19:09:32 * nerdboy shakes his fist at upstream...  again...
Apr 01 19:09:51 <nerdboy> if i had a nickel for every time i did *that*...
Apr 01 19:11:23 * nerdboy checking 2.26.1
Apr 01 19:33:08 <geekswine> rcn-ee: can u give me more suggestions (or comments on proposal) abt the proposal plss ?? abt more things to be done..meanwhile i'll try to come up with some conclusion abt the booting process :)
Apr 01 19:47:52 <rcn-ee> nerdboy, yeah till "2.26" sfdisk had been the "least" lets change everything vs fdisk/etc... but there 2.26 doesn't even have a combaitlity mode... i need to install fedora and put it thru it's paces..
Apr 01 19:48:22 <rcn-ee> geekswine, while on lunch, the more i thought about it.. You should target https://github.com/ungureanuvladvictor/BBBlfs for the bootloader..
Apr 01 19:49:23 <rcn-ee> user only has to: push and hold boot button, (with no microsd), plug in usb cable, then you can load u-boot over the usb connection along with the "energa" scripts..
Apr 01 19:49:39 <geekswine> rcn-ee: okk..i'll :)
Apr 01 19:49:48 <rcn-ee> i'll add it melang. ;0
Apr 01 19:50:13 <geekswine> okk thanx :D
Apr 01 20:11:49 <shubhangi> Abhishek_: was a little busy, will finish by day after tomorrow
Apr 01 20:14:21 <altairpearl_> nerdboy : hey i have made some changes again . Please review my proposal
Apr 01 20:37:44 <nerdboy> rcn-ee: that u-boot does not seem to do much
Apr 01 20:38:18 <nerdboy> made card with vaft /boot using MLO/u-boot.bin and does the same thing
Apr 01 20:38:27 <rcn-ee> u-boot.img..
Apr 01 20:38:46 <nerdboy> whichever...
Apr 01 20:39:09 <nerdboy> *whatever wiki says
Apr 01 20:40:05 <nerdboy> rev a does not boot with card in, rev c just boots to flash either way
Apr 01 20:40:53 <nerdboy> a has angstrom/older u-boot, rev c has debian/newer u-boot
Apr 01 20:41:15 <rcn-ee> nerdboy, what does this image do: https://rcn-ee.com/rootfs/bb.org/release/2015-03-01/console/bone-debian-7.8-console-armhf-2015-03-01-2gb.img.xz (it's small 300mb)
Apr 01 20:41:48 <nerdboy> put it on card?
Apr 01 20:45:50 <rcn-ee> yeah, just extract and dd it to a spare card..
Apr 01 20:54:24 <ds2> hmmm
Apr 01 20:54:31 <ds2> rather quiet
Apr 01 20:55:53 <rcn-ee> everyone must be reviewing gsoc stuff.. ;)
Apr 01 20:56:02 <ds2> then where are the students? ;)
Apr 01 20:56:57 <rcn-ee> i think they are just waiting, as they can't edit the proposals anymore..
Apr 01 20:58:37 <ds2> i remember it being a bit more active in prior years
Apr 01 20:58:44 <ds2> as proposals are never completely clear
Apr 01 21:34:58 <moto-timo> is x15 shipping ? where to buy?
Apr 01 21:39:21 * nerdboy managed to review a few more before mtgs take over...
Apr 01 21:45:19 <rcn-ee> moto-timo, ti requested a few more pcb tweaks. ;) (it's a joint bb.org/ti evm board..)
Apr 01 21:47:40 <rcn-ee> if you have an omap5_uevm, the a15's cores are very similar, but beyond that the x15's got "a lot" more co-proccessors...
Apr 01 21:49:04 <nerdboy> okay, that card works...
Apr 01 21:50:02 <rcn-ee> nerdboy, must be "suggesting" rcn-ee update the ubuntu/debian image on elinux..... ;)
Apr 01 21:55:01 <nerdboy> need to remake card and test a couple things
Apr 01 21:56:42 <rcn-ee> nerdboy, you can grab a backup MLO/u-boot.img from /opt/backup/uboot/  (kinda hard to grab them when they are dd'ed..)
Apr 01 21:57:55 <nerdboy> empty on your card
Apr 01 22:19:59 <moto-timo> rcn-ee: thank you for the details. I feel their pain.
Apr 01 22:22:34 * nerdboy signs moto-timo up for next year's philly lunch mtg
Apr 01 22:59:33 * moto-timo orders philly cheese steak
Apr 01 23:00:11 <ds2> moto-timo: did you used to work with moto?
Apr 01 23:01:19 <moto-timo> ds2: no... my Dad is known as Scooter Bob and moto is spanish for scooter
Apr 01 23:02:03 <moto-timo> ds2: when in Costa Rica, I go by timo (TEE-Moh) sounds better than TEEM
Apr 01 23:02:20 <ds2> ah
Apr 01 23:02:28 <ds2> there used to be a firm by that name in the SFBay area
Apr 01 23:03:03 <moto-timo> I have several friends associated with Motorola that use(d) moto in their nicks
Apr 01 23:03:28 <ds2> no, that was unrelated to motorola
Apr 01 23:03:32 <moto-timo> look at my github... you'll see the scooter
Apr 01 23:03:41 <ds2> they did microcontroller/Linux development
Apr 01 23:03:44 <moto-timo> ds2: yah... just free association
Apr 01 23:03:58 <moto-timo> ds2: I think I remember it
Apr 01 23:04:17 <ds2> moto-timo: are you in the SF Bay area? think you mentioned you are in PDT
Apr 01 23:04:35 <moto-timo> ds2: central coast. about 30 minutes from nerdboy
Apr 01 23:04:49 <ds2> as in like Jade Cove?
Apr 01 23:04:49 <moto-timo> ds2: 3 hours south of San Jose
Apr 01 23:05:28 <ds2> or more like the monterey peninsula area
Apr 01 23:05:45 <moto-timo> ds2: further south... Pismo Beach
Apr 01 23:05:58 <ds2> <-- not good with travel times along the coast. HW1/PCH is SLOW going
Apr 01 23:06:06 <ds2> ohhhh down there
Apr 01 23:06:33 <moto-timo> ds2: 5 hours via PCH on a good day
Apr 01 23:06:44 <ds2> hehe
Apr 01 23:10:11 * moto-timo thinks too many cities claim to be central coast
Apr 01 23:12:31 <ds2> central to what.. pismo is more like central btwn SoCal and SFBay... SFBay is almost central btwn SoCal and the OR/CA border
Apr 01 23:12:49 <moto-timo> exactly :)
Apr 01 23:13:20 <moto-timo> but north of Petaluma starts becoming oregon anyway... (no offense)
Apr 01 23:18:12 * ds2 sticks jeffro on moto-timo ;)
Apr 01 23:18:48 * moto-timo ducks
Apr 01 23:20:02 <moto-timo> I did start to troll didn't I?
Apr 01 23:20:09 * moto-timo turns on filter
Apr 01 23:21:01 <ds2> :)
Apr 01 23:44:14 <nerdboy> north of bay is north coast
Apr 01 23:44:32 <nerdboy> south of pt conception is south coast
Apr 01 23:44:39 <nerdboy> in between is...
Apr 01 23:50:31 <moto-timo> closer to hell?
Apr 01 23:50:41 * moto-timo checks filter... it was off again
Apr 01 23:51:28 <nerdboy> you're thinking about lompoc, 5 miles beyond the End of The Earth
Apr 01 23:55:19 <nerdboy> moto-timo: if you see that sign on 246 you've gone too far...
Apr 01 23:55:39 <nerdboy> turn around and go back towards solvang
Apr 02 00:09:29 <calculus> I know pismo
Apr 02 00:09:41 <calculus> I sometimes go to grover beach during butterfly season
Apr 02 00:09:47 <calculus> sooo many butterflies
Apr 02 00:10:24 <calculus> and someone has a job to count them all
Apr 02 00:10:25 <moto-timo> calculus: truly amazing, yes.
Apr 02 00:11:02 <moto-timo> as a child, there was a grove of eucalyptus trees down the street. I've never seen so many Monarch butterflies.
Apr 02 00:11:22 <moto-timo> the tree was "made" of butterflies, not leaves
Apr 02 00:12:34 <ds2> where is Grover beach?
Apr 02 00:12:44 <calculus> adjacent to Pismo beach
Apr 02 00:12:54 <calculus> one of the 5 Cities in the 5 Cities area
Apr 02 00:13:09 <ds2> hmmm
Apr 02 00:13:17 <ds2> i just known pismo as the place you can drive into
Apr 02 00:13:18 <calculus> about 12 miles south of San Luis Obispo
Apr 02 00:14:04 <moto-timo> those 5 cities used to be separated... they're all the same sprawl now
Apr 02 00:14:31 * moto-timo thinks ds2 needs to come visit
Apr 02 00:16:18 <ds2> moto-timo: I been on the pismo beach
Apr 02 00:16:36 <ds2> nice clams :D
Apr 02 00:17:22 * moto-timo transitioning home... idling.
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